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(YouTube)   Camden NJ, known for previously always ranking #1 as the murder capital of the U.S. held a George Floyd protest and it ended with zero violence. Why? Because the police chief and other officers protested with them in full dress uniform   (youtube.com) divider line
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2020-06-02 3:17:07 AM  
That's how you de-escalate
 
2020-06-02 3:31:33 AM  
Yep... He get's it..  So proud of my state that is otherwise shiat on paving the way for how to do it right in these trying times..

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2020-06-02 5:02:33 AM  
Good.  Now start a bonfire in the back of your armored assault vehicle and throw your batons, your "non lethal" munition launchers, your combat fatigues, and your tazers in there.  Then you get your pat on the back and a body camera on the front.
 
2020-06-02 7:47:11 AM  
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/Made this yesterday. Glad to see it's right.
 
2020-06-02 8:01:52 AM  
The cops are instigating the violence over and over. Sometimes intentionally, sometimes through unnecessary tactics.
 
2020-06-02 8:53:04 AM  
This is great but not all of the looters were protesters, so clearly there are also some other factors involved.
 
2020-06-02 8:54:42 AM  
The only thing in Camden left to loot is the Aquarium, and it's both closed and guarded by hippos.
 
2020-06-02 8:56:34 AM  

This text is now purple: The only thing in Camden left to loot is the Aquarium, and it's both closed and guarded by hippos.


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2020-06-02 8:56:55 AM  

Animatronik: This is great but not all of the looters were protesters, so clearly there are also some other factors involved.


If a bunch of white antifa kids show up in Camden, they're going to get a well deserved beat down.
 
2020-06-02 8:58:39 AM  
That's cool, but seriously.... how hard is it to turn your damned phone sideways before you start taking video??
 
2020-06-02 8:59:46 AM  
It's that time where we find out who "the baddies" are.

/ you can follow orders or the Constitution.
 
2020-06-02 9:01:44 AM  

This text is now purple: The only thing in Camden left to loot is the Aquarium, and it's both closed and guarded by hippos.


They have a sloth there. It's pretty awesome.
 
2020-06-02 9:03:29 AM  
Of all the places to figure out how to do it without burning shiat down, I have to admit that NJ would be on of the last I would think of.

Good for you Camden, NJ.
 
2020-06-02 9:04:26 AM  

GanjSmokr: That's cool, but seriously.... how hard is it to turn your damned phone sideways before you start taking video??


You guys do a lot of complaining about vertical phone video here. Clearly you've never known someone with a serious case of carpal tunnel syndrome. Show a little compassion.
 
2020-06-02 9:05:44 AM  
It's the large gangs of armed thugs dressed all the same in black you have to watch out for.  Those guys are the ones starting all the riots.
 
2020-06-02 9:06:57 AM  

jimjays: Clearly you've never known someone with a serious case of carpal tunnel syndrome


My daughter has carpal tunnel and she's laughing at this new excuse for shooting vertical video.

So thanks?
 
2020-06-02 9:07:55 AM  
Police have been feed this us verses them mentality for generations.  As long as they view the public as the enemy, they will respond with violence and repression.  You can bet there are lots of cops all over the country who are pissed that these officers worked with the community they are meant to serve.  But police should be servants of the public.  Even the public committing crimes.

The problem is the image of police as public servants is historically inaccurate.  They always have been a means of forcefully controlling to population.  They have always been an instrument of state sponsored terrorism against black communities.  From enforcing slavery, to Jim Crow, to the civil rights movement and the 'war on drugs' which has always been a war blacks and young liberals. It is in the very DNA of America's cops.   American Police have always been tasked with keeping blacks in their place, through violence or the threat of violence.  The difference now is that everyone can see it happening.  Before smart phones and social media, this would not be seen.  It would not even get reported.  But this can change, but it absolutely has to be the police who change.  They have to either stand down and retool their mindset or be abolished and replaced.  The only other option is increasingly violent uprisings and increasingly violent repression, leading to more violent uprising.  The question is, how many dead, wounded and unjustly imprisoned before we accept the need for ground up change in policing.
 
2020-06-02 9:08:59 AM  
LANDSCAPE please!!
 
2020-06-02 9:10:17 AM  

GanjSmokr: That's cool, but seriously.... how hard is it to turn your damned phone sideways before you start taking video??


I feel like people stopped doing that because they put their finger over the lens when holding the phone horizontally.... Instead of learning how to not cover the lens with their finger like when people still used real cameras instead of phones
 
2020-06-02 9:14:39 AM  
Camden has been through the fire (literally) and as a community they are working really really hard to change their image.  It has taken a long time to get everyone on board, but there is a sense of community that is rare in large cities, they know they are only going to get there together and together they can stop the madness.

Other cities should learn, the peaceful protesters should show up before the looting starts and just stand in front of businesses and churches in their communities and deny the looters easy targets of opportunity.  The looters are cowards if they are challenged.
 
2020-06-02 9:15:47 AM  
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Fayetteville NC had very peaceful protest yesterday as well
 
2020-06-02 9:15:52 AM  

Cdr.Murdock: They're still cops.

They're still part of the problem.  So long as they let any cop anywhere violate someone's civil rights, or murder in the name of the law, they're still cops.

They're still on "the team".  They'll still side with other cops when it comes down to it.  Don't be fooled.

Wolves in sheep's clothing, staling your wife for a late night banging and shooting your dog on the way out the back door.

this is sarcasm.


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2020-06-02 9:17:57 AM  
I thought maybe a TJ Maxx situation
 
2020-06-02 9:18:03 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: jimjays: Clearly you've never known someone with a serious case of carpal tunnel syndrome

My daughter has carpal tunnel and she's laughing at this new excuse for shooting vertical video.

So thanks?


You're welcome, she's welcome. "Walk a mile in their shoes" is what I always say.

The video beef can just as easily go the other way; I see plenty of complaining about it, too. I suppose it depends on the videographer's  particular case. Then of course there are artistic choices, which I won't pretend to understand.
 
2020-06-02 9:22:33 AM  
The other problem is in Camden if you pick something up and throw it that generally qualifies as community service.
 
2020-06-02 9:24:21 AM  

koder: [Fark user image 500x649]

/Made this yesterday. Glad to see it's right.


Yoink!
 
2020-06-02 9:33:13 AM  
Flint did the same, and Detroit PD when I was at the protests over the weekend was very much "you do your thing, if you don't start shiat neither will we". It was only after curfew when people started showing from out of town that there was a real problem.
 
2020-06-02 9:35:49 AM  

Marcos P: This text is now purple: The only thing in Camden left to loot is the Aquarium, and it's both closed and guarded by hippos.

They have a sloth there. It's pretty awesome.


That's messed up. Can sloths even swim?
 
2020-06-02 9:36:18 AM  
 
2020-06-02 9:39:05 AM  
What I learned from this thread is that if I go to Camden, NJ there is a high probability that I will come away with a free sloth and lesser probability that I make my getaway on the back of a hippo.
 
2020-06-02 9:39:38 AM  

dwrash: Camden has been through the fire (literally) and as a community they are working really really hard to change their image.  It has taken a long time to get everyone on board, but there is a sense of community that is rare in large cities, they know they are only going to get there together and together they can stop the madness.

Other cities should learn, the peaceful protesters should show up before the looting starts and just stand in front of businesses and churches in their communities and deny the looters easy targets of opportunity.  The looters are cowards if they are challenged.


I believe this is why things have been relatively calm in Detroit, for similar reasons.
 
2020-06-02 9:41:01 AM  

Sword and Shield: Flint did the same, and Detroit PD when I was at the protests over the weekend was very much "you do your thing, if you don't start shiat neither will we". It was only after curfew when people started showing from out of town that there was a real problem.


I should read down before commenting, I see this was covered.
 
2020-06-02 9:51:27 AM  

GalFriday: What I learned from this thread is that if I go to Camden, NJ there is a high probability that I will come away with a free sloth and lesser probability that I make my getaway on the back of a hippo.


And probably get a gram of some decent 'dro on the way out
 
2020-06-02 9:55:46 AM  

This text is now purple: The only thing in Camden left to loot is the Aquarium, and it's both closed and guarded by hippos.


And a battleship
 
2020-06-02 10:22:13 AM  
Wierd how that continues to be the outcome when police join the protest.
 
2020-06-02 10:33:03 AM  
The protests made up of concerned local citizens, being watched over by concerned local police forces, seem to all go peacefully.  The protests seeded with out of town violent anarchists, and/or those confronted by militarized police looking for a fight, end up as riots.  This isn't a "both sides are bad" take on it; it's just an observation that violence can begin from either the crowd side of the line or the cop side of the line.  What's universal is that once it starts, it spirals.
 
2020-06-02 10:33:53 AM  
Amazing when the cops don't start shiat, shiat isn't started.
Whodathunk
 
2020-06-02 11:04:59 AM  
Correlation does not imply causation, but this happened to Camden less than a month after I was born there.  But even if I was sent by the gods to bring about Camden's downfall, I still support or endorse the actions of these cops.
 
2020-06-02 11:05:03 AM  
Sam Vimes would be proud.
 
2020-06-02 11:07:05 AM  

GanjSmokr: That's cool, but seriously.... how hard is it to turn your damned phone sideways before you start taking video??


It's a device designed to record video taken vertically and designed to playback video taken vertically. Why the fark should we turn it sideways?
 
2020-06-02 11:17:20 AM  

JerseyTim: The cops are instigating the violence over and over. Sometimes intentionally, sometimes through unnecessary tactics.


Absolutely. It's almost as if the worst possible way to respond to protests against police brutality is with police brutality.
 
2020-06-02 11:20:03 AM  

big pig peaches: Animatronik: This is great but not all of the looters were protesters, so clearly there are also some other factors involved.

If a bunch of white antifa kids show up in Camden, they're going to get a well deserved beat down.


The white kids protesting aren't antifa. Those folks follow around nazis (out of uniform) and harass them. These are just opportunistic jackasses who deserve any criminal charges that come their way.
 
2020-06-02 11:20:35 AM  

Snatch Bandergrip: Camden violent crime drastically reduced after police restructuring

Weird, huh


Yup. Once County took over the dynamic in Camden completely changed..  It took awhile for the citizens to trust they've worked hard to restore a sense of trust in the city..
 
2020-06-02 11:30:25 AM  

Warthog: The protests made up of concerned local citizens, being watched over by concerned local police forces, seem to all go peacefully.  The protests seeded with out of town violent anarchists, and/or those confronted by militarized police looking for a fight, end up as riots.  This isn't a "both sides are bad" take on it; it's just an observation that violence can begin from either the crowd side of the line or the cop side of the line.  What's universal is that once it starts, it spirals.


That should be the lead-in to all the news stories. Thank you.,
 
2020-06-02 11:33:05 AM  
So far everywhere that this has happened it has created the solidarity and peace everyone deserves.  I can't help but wonder how many of the cops sent out in riot gear wish they were standing arm in arm with the protestors.  It also removes the chaos/conflict cover that the rioters and looters need.

Color me shocked that Trump is demanding they do the complete opposite.
 
2020-06-02 11:48:17 AM  

derpes_simplex: Good.  Now start a bonfire in the back of your armored assault vehicle and throw your batons, your "non lethal" munition launchers, your combat fatigues, and your tazers in there.  Then you get your pat on the back and a body camera on the front.


Theres just no pleasing some people
 
2020-06-02 12:08:46 PM  
gee with all the wildly different end of spectrum responses to be seen around the states, it's almost gives the appearance that it is the cops that are most responsible for situations remaining peaceful or becoming violent.
 
2020-06-02 12:10:10 PM  
Wow not letting your cops act like thugs stops violence. Whol'd a thunk it.
 
2020-06-02 12:22:47 PM  

meanmutton: GanjSmokr: That's cool, but seriously.... how hard is it to turn your damned phone sideways before you start taking video??

It's a device designed to record video taken vertically and designed to playback video taken vertically. Why the fark should we turn it sideways?


Human field of view is wider than it is tall assuming the person has two functioning eyes and is using both of them. As such horizontal video is far more pleasing to the human eye.
 
2020-06-02 12:31:11 PM  

Animatronik: This is great but not all of the looters were protesters, so clearly there are also some other factors involved.


Part of them are Nazis trying to spark a full on race war.

Part of them are just opportunists taking advantage of the fact that the cops are all preoccupied with 'policing' predominately peaceful protests.

/If the cops are all surrounding, beating up, tear gassing, and running over peaceful protestors, they're NOT policing actual streets and actual crimes.  Which means people can take advantage of that.
 
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