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(Atlas Obscura)   What's the deal with nomenclature for officials? You can't call a basketball guy an umpire, you can't call a baseball guy a referee, and you can call a football guy a ref or an ump but definitely not a judge unless he's one of the judges   (atlasobscura.com) divider line
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2020-06-01 9:09:00 PM  
With the way our legal system works many cases, the judge should be called a referee and the jurors should be called judges
 
2020-06-01 9:25:58 PM  
Actually, football does have umpires
 
2020-06-02 2:33:41 AM  

vudukungfu: Actually, football does have umpires


Reading is hard; let's go shopping!
 
2020-06-02 2:39:36 AM  
"We have referees in football and umpires in tennis, what do we have in bowls?"
"Custard."
 
2020-06-02 3:15:55 AM  

The Smails Kid: vudukungfu: Actually, football does have umpires

Reading is hard; let's go shopping!


Yeah, the correct snark is that basketball has umpires.
 
2020-06-02 5:47:58 AM  
Whereas in cricket they're called crumpets if I understood the explanation correctly.
 
2020-06-02 6:36:42 AM  
It's a typically English phenomenon, and it's not just sports officials but a lot of things.

English is a language that has a habit of cannibalizing other languages for spare words, so it's not uncommon for English to have multiple nouns that mean the same thing that other languages might just have one noun for. Even the French word for sports official, arbitre, has its English equivalent: Arbiter; Arbitrator. Usually only used in law, though.

/A popular minor league sports official assigning and allocation app is even called Arbiter.
 
2020-06-02 7:45:46 AM  
It was answered in the question: "officials".
 
2020-06-02 7:49:56 AM  
Wow, it's like if Jerry Seinfeld had a brain injury.
 
2020-06-02 8:48:54 AM  
So .. were there a lot of disappointed women back in that era?

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2020-06-02 8:59:48 AM  

Kyle Butler: So .. were there a lot of disappointed women back in that era?

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Why Ancient Greek Sculptures Have Small Penises
 
2020-06-02 9:14:15 AM  
Reading that headline made my eyes hurt.
 
2020-06-02 9:22:55 AM  
Two reasons:

1) English isn't a language, it's three languages stacked on top of each other wearing a trench coat.

2) Jargon makes a tribe feel special and able to identify non-members.
 
2020-06-02 9:39:40 AM  

Kyle Butler: So .. were there a lot of disappointed women back in that era?

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The greeks considered a small penis, but large balls, to be signs of virility and civilization.
 
2020-06-02 10:11:28 AM  
This is an admittedly anglocentric view of things, and the major obstacle to the theory is Spanish, which simply doesn't follow the pattern.

Seems pretty obvious that the Spanish speaking countries (which are basically the Latin American countries) got baseball and its terminology from the US, and absorbed the terminology from American media. And since they're independent from Spain, they don't have to give a crap what the Royal Spanish Academy says. Don't know what the deal is with tennis, but it's a very old and very high-status sport that probably predates modern Spanish so it makes sense that some terms are grandfathered in because of tradition.
 
2020-06-02 10:25:23 AM  

vudukungfu: Actually, football does have umpires


And judges.
 
2020-06-02 12:27:12 PM  

Arkanaut: This is an admittedly anglocentric view of things, and the major obstacle to the theory is Spanish, which simply doesn't follow the pattern.

Seems pretty obvious that the Spanish speaking countries (which are basically the Latin American countries) got baseball and its terminology from the US, and absorbed the terminology from American media. And since they're independent from Spain, they don't have to give a crap what the Royal Spanish Academy says. Don't know what the deal is with tennis, but it's a very old and very high-status sport that probably predates modern Spanish so it makes sense that some terms are grandfathered in because of tradition.


Aren't linguists still arguing about whether "love" is a corruption of "l'ouef" (the egg, aka zero)?
 
2020-06-02 12:45:50 PM  

puckrock2000: Kyle Butler: So .. were there a lot of disappointed women back in that era?

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Why Ancient Greek Sculptures Have Small Penises


That was an interesting link. I learned something today.

/yeah yeah username checks out
 
2020-06-02 1:31:52 PM  
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Shouldn't they just make the whole plane out of the black box?
 
2020-06-02 1:36:26 PM  

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Shouldn't they just make the whole plane out of the black box?


The interstates aren't wide enough.
 
2020-06-02 4:49:25 PM  

stoli n coke: Wow, it's like if Jerry Seinfeld had a brain injury.


He doesn't?
 
2020-06-02 4:52:54 PM  

dickfreckle: puckrock2000: Kyle Butler: So .. were there a lot of disappointed women back in that era?

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Why Ancient Greek Sculptures Have Small Penises

That was an interesting link. I learned something today.

/yeah yeah username checks out


Sooooo many easy ones right there, and I couldn't even ...
 
2020-06-02 9:12:34 PM  

puckrock2000: Kyle Butler: So .. were there a lot of disappointed women back in that era?

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Why Ancient Greek Sculptures Have Small Penises


Because they depict Greek men
 
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