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(KCCI Des Moines)   Large group of protesters in downtown Des Moines kneel to observe a moment of silence. Police on the other side of the barricade respond by firing a barrage of... wait... the entire police department, including the chief, took a knee with the crowd   (kcci.com) divider line
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2020-05-31 11:18:54 PM  
And the lesson is: Peace begets peace, violence begets violence.
 
2020-05-31 11:31:06 PM  
That got me in the feels.
 
2020-05-31 11:49:14 PM  
Absolute crap coming over the narration. "Asked to leave" and "breaking the law". Fu*k you.

Some media are fu*kheads.

Nice pic, but had to bail. Is it a Sinclair station? Or just because it's Iowa?
 
2020-06-01 12:18:46 AM  

silvervial: Absolute crap coming over the narration. "Asked to leave" and "breaking the law". Fu*k you.

Some media are fu*kheads.

Nice pic, but had to bail. Is it a Sinclair station? Or just because it's Iowa?


KCCI belongs to Hearst.  The funny thing is they are marginally better than the Des Moines NBC affiliate, WHO.
 
2020-06-01 12:32:10 AM  

Xanadone: silvervial: Absolute crap coming over the narration. "Asked to leave" and "breaking the law". Fu*k you.

Some media are fu*kheads.

Nice pic, but had to bail. Is it a Sinclair station? Or just because it's Iowa?

KCCI belongs to Hearst.  The funny thing is they are marginally better than the Des Moines NBC affiliate, WHO.


And I'll take WOI (Ames) over either...

How's are you doing?
 
2020-06-01 12:36:19 AM  
That was also awesome
Looking for things to support faith right now in L.A.
 
2020-06-01 12:43:30 AM  

Frederick: Xanadone: silvervial: Absolute crap coming over the narration. "Asked to leave" and "breaking the law". Fu*k you.

Some media are fu*kheads.

Nice pic, but had to bail. Is it a Sinclair station? Or just because it's Iowa?

KCCI belongs to Hearst.  The funny thing is they are marginally better than the Des Moines NBC affiliate, WHO.

And I'll take WOI (Ames) over either...

How's are you doing?


WOI wouldn't even switch over to coverage of tonight's protests until it was almost time for the 10:00 news. That was pretty lousy of them. As disappointing as WHO usually is, they actually attempted to cover things most of the night. KCCI jumped somewhere around 8:30, and stayed on until a bit past 11:00 (we're on a 9:00 curfew that is being completely ignored by our western protest).

For local Farkers... My house is about ten blocks west of Merle Hay Mall. Stuff still hadn't dispersed on Merle Hay when WHO and KCCI signed off for the night. I heard a few more fireworks after they switched back to scheduled programming. Last I saw, the head of Urban Dreams was trying to get everyone to do a similar "take a knee together" deal with the Merle Hay area cops and send everyone home. A good chunk of the crowd was NOT interested. So I'm not sure when things are going to disperse.
 
2020-06-01 2:50:21 AM  
A small measure of my belief in humanity has been restored. I fear something will happen shortly that will undermine that belief.

I'll give you a hint, it's orange, has tiny hands and a limited spelling ability
 
2020-06-01 2:53:49 AM  
i clicked the link.

uhhm, why does the audio news reader guy say:

"-testers to leave, then they were asked 4 times in total to leave. warned that they would be arrested. that they were breaking the law, and then OFFICERS CHARGED. -so, we're gonna actually go downtown- [cuts off] "

if you "click here" -for more information- it certainly seems officers took a knee in solidarity, perhaps more than once.

so what the hell is the "officers charged" (and it sounds like "charged" forwards at, not "charged with a crime") all about?
 
2020-06-01 3:04:16 AM  
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2020-06-01 3:05:25 AM  
Unless these cops go to Minneapolis and arrest the three remaining cops, they are bad cops.

A bunch of people here taught me that today.
 
2020-06-01 3:05:34 AM  
Sorry wrong thread.
 
2020-06-01 3:10:14 AM  
The world needs a lot more of this.

There's a lot of factors at play for the violence many cities are seeing. But in many cases it very much appears that the police are escalating, which often seems to be the case.

I never understood why the police often escalate these things. A few years ago here in Toronto, trying some protests over the G8 or something, undercover police were hiding in the crowd and started throwing things. they were literally trying to start the riot so their colleagues could charge Forewards with the shield batons.

When the police put down their military style riot gear, and really try to talk to people, sometimes a lot of violence, anger, and damage can be avoided.
 
2020-06-01 3:16:04 AM  

Alunan: Sorry wrong thread.


Fits em all these days.
 
2020-06-01 3:31:57 AM  

clkeagle: Frederick: Xanadone: silvervial: Absolute crap coming over the narration. "Asked to leave" and "breaking the law". Fu*k you.

Some media are fu*kheads.

Nice pic, but had to bail. Is it a Sinclair station? Or just because it's Iowa?

KCCI belongs to Hearst.  The funny thing is they are marginally better than the Des Moines NBC affiliate, WHO.

And I'll take WOI (Ames) over either...

How's are you doing?

WOI wouldn't even switch over to coverage of tonight's protests until it was almost time for the 10:00 news. That was pretty lousy of them. As disappointing as WHO usually is, they actually attempted to cover things most of the night. KCCI jumped somewhere around 8:30, and stayed on until a bit past 11:00 (we're on a 9:00 curfew that is being completely ignored by our western protest).

For local Farkers... My house is about ten blocks west of Merle Hay Mall. Stuff still hadn't dispersed on Merle Hay when WHO and KCCI signed off for the night. I heard a few more fireworks after they switched back to scheduled programming. Last I saw, the head of Urban Dreams was trying to get everyone to do a similar "take a knee together" deal with the Merle Hay area cops and send everyone home. A good chunk of the crowd was NOT interested. So I'm not sure when things are going to disperse.


Thanks for that update, I appreciate it. I'm isolated indoors at work, not even a window, until 7:00am. In Johnston.

Never before have I heard of a curfew in Dsm (Polk County)
 
2020-06-01 3:41:28 AM  

Alunan: Sorry wrong thread.


No, it works
 
2020-06-01 3:42:14 AM  
We're going to learn where the good cops are
 
2020-06-01 3:45:18 AM  
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2020-06-01 3:46:35 AM  

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2020-06-01 3:55:08 AM  
better then portland when they asked for parley then use the time to surround them and crackdown.
 
2020-06-01 3:58:04 AM  

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skip to 2:24
eerie


What? I don't see anything eerie.
 
2020-06-01 4:05:12 AM  

Alunan: [pbfcomics.com image 700x1004]


I want a cry vote please Drew.
 
2020-06-01 4:27:44 AM  

LittleSmitty: A small measure of my belief in humanity has been restored. I fear something will happen shortly that will undermine that belief.

I'll give you a hint, it's orange, has tiny hands and a limited spelling ability


No, see, you have to check the box on the bottom for Dump tweets. The one that says "do not reset faith meter for 24 hours". That way you never have to adjust your faith in humanity 3 times a day. Makes it much easier.

Though I wish who ever made this simulation would at least patch some quality of life changes. My sleep spawn is bugged where I don't get the rested buff when I wake up. It gets really annoying trying to grind xp with the pissed off debuff for 4 hours.
 
2020-06-01 4:54:22 AM  

bigpeeler: And the lesson is: Peace begets peace, violence begets violence.


To be fair, there are approximately 14 black people in the whole of Iowa, so there was never really a chance of there being an escalation. Even podunk Iowa state police outnumbered them a few hundred times over. As soon as cops lose their numerical advantage they get scared and turn to weapons instead of words.
 
2020-06-01 5:10:27 AM  
Zod showed up.
 
2020-06-01 5:25:42 AM  

chawco: The world needs a lot more of this.

There's a lot of factors at play for the violence many cities are seeing. But in many cases it very much appears that the police are escalating, which often seems to be the case.

I never understood why the police often escalate these things. A few years ago here in Toronto, trying some protests over the G8 or something, undercover police were hiding in the crowd and started throwing things. they were literally trying to start the riot so their colleagues could charge Forewards with the shield batons.

When the police put down their military style riot gear, and really try to talk to people, sometimes a lot of violence, anger, and damage can be avoided.


It's always the police who riot. Every time. They're scared and seeing nothing but exactly how badly outnumbered they are- even just counting only those who are angry enough to protest, they're hopelessly outnumbered. The only way they can get their self-confidence back is by applying the old ultraviolence. if they're violent enough, they might be able to scare away all the 'bad people'. It helps that they've been indoctrinated to believe all non-police are 'bad people'.

A brief digression into history might be in order: read up on the Battle of Athens.

That is why the cops are scared. If enough of the population gets angry enough, the police would be on the receiving end of public brutality. Since most of them are at least vaguely aware the possible reckoning will be thoroughly justified, they're convinced they are in a fight for their lives.

And we are all the enemy to them.
 
2020-06-01 6:31:41 AM  

Alunan: Sorry wrong thread.


and yet it still seems apt.
 
2020-06-01 6:43:39 AM  

Frederick: Thanks for that update, I appreciate it. I'm isolated indoors at work, not even a window, until 7:00am. In Johnston.

Never before have I heard of a curfew in Dsm (Polk County)


I know... It was frustrating as hell when that came out.

Hundreds of COVID cases at our meat packing plants and a much higher per capita infection and death rate than neighboring states: "we don't have the authority to issue a stay at home order. But we will trust our citizens to do the right things."

A couple of chain retailers have to replace a few windows: "Shut. Down. EVERYTHING."
 
2020-06-01 6:45:47 AM  
I will all but guarantee you that those officers didn't do this on their own. Dana Wingert (DMPD Chief) likely ordered them to stand (or, kneel, rather) down.

He knows he has a department full of racists and he wasn't going to give them another fight night with cameras roaming around.
 
2020-06-01 6:54:34 AM  

clkeagle: Frederick: Thanks for that update, I appreciate it. I'm isolated indoors at work, not even a window, until 7:00am. In Johnston.

Never before have I heard of a curfew in Dsm (Polk County)

I know... It was frustrating as hell when that came out.

Hundreds of COVID cases at our meat packing plants and a much higher per capita infection and death rate than neighboring states: "we don't have the authority to issue a stay at home order. But we will trust our citizens to do the right things."

A couple of chain retailers have to replace a few windows: "Shut. Down. EVERYTHING."


Forget about it Jake, it's Trump country.
 
2020-06-01 6:59:08 AM  

CheatCommando: clkeagle: Frederick: Thanks for that update, I appreciate it. I'm isolated indoors at work, not even a window, until 7:00am. In Johnston.

Never before have I heard of a curfew in Dsm (Polk County)

I know... It was frustrating as hell when that came out.

Hundreds of COVID cases at our meat packing plants and a much higher per capita infection and death rate than neighboring states: "we don't have the authority to issue a stay at home order. But we will trust our citizens to do the right things."

A couple of chain retailers have to replace a few windows: "Shut. Down. EVERYTHING."

Forget about it Jake, it's Trump country.


Polk County is assuredly not Trump country.
 
2020-06-01 7:01:26 AM  
Rather than kneeling, I'd love to hear these cops say that Floyd's murder was farked up and that all four of the cops involved need to be charged and convicted for it. "Peaceful solidarity" with zero point in this context is meaningless when what people are protesting about is police senselessly murdering people. "We're in this together" is a lot more vague then "we're in this, ending police brutality, together."

Cops in white places playing nice while cops in other places are escalating the situation to the point of arresting and firing at news crews does not make me feel all warm inside.

If they are not meaningfully condemning their own for the harm they have caused for black communities, it a photo op.
 
2020-06-01 7:01:59 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: CheatCommando: clkeagle: Frederick: Thanks for that update, I appreciate it. I'm isolated indoors at work, not even a window, until 7:00am. In Johnston.

Never before have I heard of a curfew in Dsm (Polk County)

I know... It was frustrating as hell when that came out.

Hundreds of COVID cases at our meat packing plants and a much higher per capita infection and death rate than neighboring states: "we don't have the authority to issue a stay at home order. But we will trust our citizens to do the right things."

A couple of chain retailers have to replace a few windows: "Shut. Down. EVERYTHING."

Forget about it Jake, it's Trump country.

Polk County is assuredly not Trump country.


"we don't have the authority to issue a stay at home order. But we will trust our citizens to do the right things."

Bullshiat. It shiats like a Trumpeter and smells like one too.
 
2020-06-01 7:04:24 AM  

CheatCommando: Farkin_Crazy: CheatCommando: clkeagle: Frederick: Thanks for that update, I appreciate it. I'm isolated indoors at work, not even a window, until 7:00am. In Johnston.

Never before have I heard of a curfew in Dsm (Polk County)

I know... It was frustrating as hell when that came out.

Hundreds of COVID cases at our meat packing plants and a much higher per capita infection and death rate than neighboring states: "we don't have the authority to issue a stay at home order. But we will trust our citizens to do the right things."

A couple of chain retailers have to replace a few windows: "Shut. Down. EVERYTHING."

Forget about it Jake, it's Trump country.

Polk County is assuredly not Trump country.

"we don't have the authority to issue a stay at home order. But we will trust our citizens to do the right things."

Bullshiat. It shiats like a Trumpeter and smells like one too.


You do realize that governors oversee entire states, and not just individual counties, right?

Have you ever been to Iowa? Or the DSM metro area? Or do you just like to run your yap about shiat you know nothing about?
 
2020-06-01 7:09:35 AM  

purpurosea: Rather than kneeling, I'd love to hear these cops say that Floyd's murder was farked up and that all four of the cops involved need to be charged and convicted for it. "Peaceful solidarity" with zero point in this context is meaningless when what people are protesting about is police senselessly murdering people. "We're in this together" is a lot more vague then "we're in this, ending police brutality, together."

Cops in white places playing nice while cops in other places are escalating the situation to the point of arresting and firing at news crews does not make me feel all warm inside.

If they are not meaningfully condemning their own for the harm they have caused for black communities, it a photo op.


Pretty much this ^^^^.

DM cops gassed and arrested a journalist (KCCI, I believe) after she showed her credentials.
 
2020-06-01 7:18:51 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: purpurosea: Rather than kneeling, I'd love to hear these cops say that Floyd's murder was farked up and that all four of the cops involved need to be charged and convicted for it. "Peaceful solidarity" with zero point in this context is meaningless when what people are protesting about is police senselessly murdering people. "We're in this together" is a lot more vague then "we're in this, ending police brutality, together."

Cops in white places playing nice while cops in other places are escalating the situation to the point of arresting and firing at news crews does not make me feel all warm inside.

If they are not meaningfully condemning their own for the harm they have caused for black communities, it a photo op.

Pretty much this ^^^^.

DM cops gassed and arrested a journalist (KCCI, I believe) after she showed her credentials.


Not to be a white kid quoting MLK but,

"I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will."

Cops kneeling and being nice to white people in Iowa while they wage a full on assault on black communities to protect their own from consequence sounds a whole hell of a lot like what he was talking about here to me.Yes its cute, but where is the justice?
 
2020-06-01 7:23:45 AM  

bigpeeler: And the lesson is: Peace begets peace, violence begets violence.


I'd smart this if it wasn't written by a pro police brutality asshole.
 
2020-06-01 7:24:28 AM  
It's amazing how peaceful things can be when those in power lead with respect rather than tear gas.
 
2020-06-01 7:26:54 AM  

LL316: bigpeeler: And the lesson is: Peace begets peace, violence begets violence.

I'd smart this if it wasn't written by a pro police brutality asshole.


I like it cos if you really stick to it as a statement, you can make it into an indictment of the police. The cops killed a man and tried to intimidate their community. Their violence begot violence.
 
2020-06-01 7:30:10 AM  

purpurosea: Farkin_Crazy: purpurosea: Rather than kneeling, I'd love to hear these cops say that Floyd's murder was farked up and that all four of the cops involved need to be charged and convicted for it. "Peaceful solidarity" with zero point in this context is meaningless when what people are protesting about is police senselessly murdering people. "We're in this together" is a lot more vague then "we're in this, ending police brutality, together."

Cops in white places playing nice while cops in other places are escalating the situation to the point of arresting and firing at news crews does not make me feel all warm inside.

If they are not meaningfully condemning their own for the harm they have caused for black communities, it a photo op.

Pretty much this ^^^^.

DM cops gassed and arrested a journalist (KCCI, I believe) after she showed her credentials.

Not to be a white kid quoting MLK but,

"I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will."

Cops kneeling and being nice to white people in Iowa while they wage a full on assault on black communities to protect their own from consequence sounds a whole hell of a lot like what he was talking about here to me.Yes its cute, but where is the justice?


There are 2 sides of that coin.

Yes, DSM's PD is full of racists. The city has had to pay out millions for claims of assault on black citizens, denial of rights, and a host of other bad shiat they do. Then there was Dave Murrow's 'Beat Whitey' scam about 10-15 years ago, where he made that shiat up as a reason for them to start using their batons on black people leaving the Iowa State Fair.

But, I do know that what was going on at Merle Hay (ironically. Google the name to find out who he was) and at the downtown HyVee Saturday night had nothing to do with George Floyd's murder. But that doesn't excuse, not for a second, the shiat that the cops have been pulling for decades.
 
2020-06-01 7:34:16 AM  
According to TFA, the cops aren't kneeling in solidarity with the protest. They are kneeling in prayer.

I don't know if this distinction is actually true, but it's disappointing that this media outlet's first instinct is to paint the cop's kneeling as different and more virtuous than the protestors kneeling (or Kaepernick, BLM, etc.).
 
2020-06-01 7:39:44 AM  

Smackledorfer: Unless these cops go to Minneapolis and arrest the three remaining cops, they are bad cops.

A bunch of people here taught me that today.


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2020-06-01 7:46:19 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: purpurosea: Farkin_Crazy: purpurosea: Rather than kneeling, I'd love to hear these cops say that Floyd's murder was farked up and that all four of the cops involved need to be charged and convicted for it. "Peaceful solidarity" with zero point in this context is meaningless when what people are protesting about is police senselessly murdering people. "We're in this together" is a lot more vague then "we're in this, ending police brutality, together."

Cops in white places playing nice while cops in other places are escalating the situation to the point of arresting and firing at news crews does not make me feel all warm inside.

If they are not meaningfully condemning their own for the harm they have caused for black communities, it a photo op.

Pretty much this ^^^^.

DM cops gassed and arrested a journalist (KCCI, I believe) after she showed her credentials.

Not to be a white kid quoting MLK but,

"I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will."

Cops kneeling and being nice to white people in Iowa while they wage a full on assault on bl ...


The whole situation went out of control night one, honestly - the first I even heard about these protests was here when someone posted about those Bungalow dudes or whatever new name the alt right wants to use. It is hard to tell who is destroying out of a justified anger at the murder of another member of their community at the hands of the police, who are opportunists looking for fun, who is an undercover cop and who is a white supremacist come to fark with the narrative. I am one of those more lefty-than-not types who honestly couldn't give a damn if a store was looted so hard they took the shelving with them - but I am sad to hear about deaths that are occurring during the protests, and I wish the protesters had more control of the situation so that bad actors either outside or inside their circles would be handled.

Thing is, I've been having this conversation, about what is a good protest, and whether cops are bastards or not, yadda yadda since I was in highschool. Thats not saying a lot, obviously this problem is much older than I am, but I have grown up listening to my peers say things like "cops don't kill black people" to my face. I have watched time and time again black community leaders try to talk to us as a nation about the pain their communities are in and get ignored and blacklisted.

I actually don't like the idea of revolt. I'm a weak idiot who can't organize for shiat and can't throw a punch to save my life, let alone my neighbor's. I don't want any of this to be happening, but christ, maybe if we'd listened before it wouldn't be necessary. All of this was avoidable at so many points - maybe now we can actually take the problem of police brutality seriously so that we don't have to have this happen again. Or we can wait for this to blow over, play nice and forget about it, and let the wounds we've earned as a nation over the last week fester.
 
2020-06-01 8:06:06 AM  

purpurosea: LL316: bigpeeler: And the lesson is: Peace begets peace, violence begets violence.

I'd smart this if it wasn't written by a pro police brutality asshole.

I like it cos if you really stick to it as a statement, you can make it into an indictment of the police. The cops killed a man and tried to intimidate their community. Their violence begot violence.


Absolutely.  But people like peeler don't see police brutality as violence.  They look at it as a necessary silver lining.
 
2020-06-01 8:21:41 AM  

Xanadone: silvervial: Absolute crap coming over the narration. "Asked to leave" and "breaking the law". Fu*k you.

Some media are fu*kheads.

Nice pic, but had to bail. Is it a Sinclair station? Or just because it's Iowa?

KCCI belongs to Hearst.  The funny thing is they are marginally better than the Des Moines NBC affiliate, WHO.


But the NBC affiliate gets all the breaking news, because WHO's on first.
 
2020-06-01 8:52:39 AM  

bigpeeler: And the lesson is: Peace begets peace, violence begets violence.


Which is why the 2nd Amendment is no longer necessary, right?

Or does it mean that we should disarm our cops like the British?

Or, do you mean that capitulating to authority is the only option?

I'm confused.

The only reason that we have a 2nd Amendment is to prevent police from abusing power.

Why aren't gun owners marching and protesting?

Is it just racism?
 
2020-06-01 9:01:11 AM  
LEO displays respect, empathy, compassion: maybe there's hope for America after all.

Dear Cities Across America,

Pay attention cities across America. Des Moines has a collection of candidates for Chief of Police. So, if you have a P.D. with cops who murder black people, pepper spray little girls, arrest journalists, shoot journalists in the eye, vandalize AutoZone, trample people with horses. tazer people to drag them from their cars, throw women and elderly people to the ground, shoot into the porch of a private residence, assault people with batons and bicycles; and support white supremacy - clean house. Both fire and prosecute all wrong doers. If you have the slightest problem identifying individual perpetrators, demand that the other officers out the wrong doers. If they fail to do so, fire them. Fire them all. Fire them and post on the internet that they were fired because they are unfit to serve as LEO.

There's 25% unemployment. There's not a city in the country that will have any trouble replacing fired LEO. When you hire the next batch, please do a better job of psychological screening and training in de-escalation.

Thank you,
America
 
2020-06-01 9:15:09 AM  

Bruscar: LEO displays respect, empathy, compassion: maybe there's hope for America after all.

Dear Cities Across America,

Pay attention cities across America. Des Moines has a collection of candidates for Chief of Police. So, if you have a P.D. with cops who murder black people, pepper spray little girls, arrest journalists, shoot journalists in the eye, vandalize AutoZone, trample people with horses. tazer people to drag them from their cars, throw women and elderly people to the ground, shoot into the porch of a private residence, assault people with batons and bicycles; and support white supremacy - clean house. Both fire and prosecute all wrong doers. If you have the slightest problem identifying individual perpetrators, demand that the other officers out the wrong doers. If they fail to do so, fire them. Fire them all. Fire them and post on the internet that they were fired because they are unfit to serve as LEO.

There's 25% unemployment. There's not a city in the country that will have any trouble replacing fired LEO. When you hire the next batch, please do a better job of psychological screening and training in de-escalation.

Thank you,
America


De-escalate.
Perfect.
 
2020-06-01 9:18:43 AM  

Smackledorfer: Unless these cops go to Minneapolis and arrest the three remaining cops, they are bad cops.

A bunch of people here taught me that today.


Nobody taught you that. Don't get me wrong, I have zero doubt that that's what you learned, but that's not what you were taught.
 
2020-06-01 9:24:37 AM  

Bruscar: LEO displays respect, empathy, compassion: maybe there's hope for America after all.

Dear Cities Across America,

Pay attention cities across America. Des Moines has a collection of candidates for Chief of Police. So, if you have a P.D. with cops who murder black people, pepper spray little girls, arrest journalists, shoot journalists in the eye, vandalize AutoZone, trample people with horses. tazer people to drag them from their cars, throw women and elderly people to the ground, shoot into the porch of a private residence, assault people with batons and bicycles; and support white supremacy - clean house. Both fire and prosecute all wrong doers. If you have the slightest problem identifying individual perpetrators, demand that the other officers out the wrong doers. If they fail to do so, fire them. Fire them all. Fire them and post on the internet that they were fired because they are unfit to serve as LEO.

There's 25% unemployment. There's not a city in the country that will have any trouble replacing fired LEO. When you hire the next batch, please do a better job of psychological screening and training in de-escalation.

Thank you,
America


I don't, for the most part, have many problems with how Dana Wingert runs his department. He's said and done some shiat in the past about the downtown area that make me question his direction, but overall I don't think HE is the problem. But I do think he's naive to have admitted, shortly after he took the job, that racial profiling, and how DMPD used it went away when older cops retired.

He still has a fair share of meatheads who target black and brown people. And while I applaud him attempting to rid the department of those guys, that task ain't near complete yet. But, it seems like he's trying.
 
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