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2020-05-31 9:39:02 PM  
After they burned the Daughters of the Confederacy headquarters and trashed the General Lee statue in Richmond that's probably a good idea.
 
2020-05-31 9:54:12 PM  
It's a start.
 
2020-05-31 9:56:12 PM  
FTFA: "I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives," Bessenger wrote in the statement.

That's what the Confederacy was, too, asshole.
 
2020-05-31 10:45:22 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy


Slavery.  That's what the Confederacy was about.  Full stop.  All of their documents were "We want slavery uber alles".  If you want to promulgate that, you can pick any of the four cardinal directions and start walking until you have left the US.  You may have to swim or avoid Mexican/Canadian troops, but that ain't my problem.
 
2020-05-31 11:20:54 PM  

phalamir: Doctor Funkenstein: the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy

Slavery.  That's what the Confederacy was about.  Full stop.  All of their documents were "We want slavery uber alles".  If you want to promulgate that, you can pick any of the four cardinal directions and start walking until you have left the US.  You may have to swim or avoid Mexican/Canadian troops, but that ain't my problem.


That. It's also why the election of Lincoln was the straw that broke the camel's back and started the Civil War. The slave states were afraid he would use his office to limit or eliminate slavery.
 
2020-05-31 11:23:07 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives," Bessenger wrote in the statement.

That's what the Confederacy was, too, asshole.


I suppose it's hard to come to grips with your ancestors being evil people.
 
2020-06-01 12:43:03 AM  

BizarreMan: Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives," Bessenger wrote in the statement.

That's what the Confederacy was, too, asshole.

I suppose it's hard to come to grips with your ancestors being evil people.


I used to use the analogy that if my great-great gandfather was a pedophile, I wouldn't consider it a point of honor to rape little children.  And then  saw all the stories of SBC youth ministers, and that went right out the window...
 
2020-06-01 3:23:05 AM  
"I was shocked, shocked to find that many of these so-called Confederate preservationists, were in fact racists! Also I was doubly shocked to find out that the personal stylings of Limp Bizkit are in fact no longer fashionable and that in fact I was getting no nookie as a result."
 
2020-06-01 4:04:32 AM  

phalamir: BizarreMan: Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives," Bessenger wrote in the statement.

That's what the Confederacy was, too, asshole.

I suppose it's hard to come to grips with your ancestors being evil people.

I used to use the analogy that if my great-great gandfather was a pedophile, I wouldn't consider it a point of honor to rape little children.  And then  saw all the stories of SBC youth ministers, and that went right out the window...


I'm descended from Confederate soldiers from Louisiana and Tennessee, and from Maryland slaveowners. Also, my paternal grandfather shot and killed his wife and two of his other kids when my dad was young. I don't need to honor the legacy of my grandfather; he was a bad guy. And I don't need to honor the legacy of my various pro-slavery ancestors; they were bad guys too.

Death enables evolution. One generation dies out to make room for the next so that it can continue to respond and improve and evolve. If you're just going to unthinkingly emulate your ancestors, you're rejecting the purpose of your own life: to synthesise their experiences with new experiences and new information so that you can become better than them.

Ancestry isn't destiny; the road behind isn't the road ahead. We can always do better, and we should expect our children to do better than us in ways we can't properly understand.
 
2020-06-01 6:57:38 AM  

Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives," Bessenger wrote in the statement.

That's what the Confederacy was, too, asshole.


Hey, at least this guy managed to figure it out without Sherman having to come down there and tell him. That gives me hope for the future.
 
2020-06-01 7:34:32 AM  
Heritage*, not hate.

*The heritage of being a bunch of inbred nitwits who picked a fight with their moral, intellectual, and technological betters and got their asses handed to them, all because they felt other humans should be labeled as property.
 
2020-06-01 7:56:22 AM  
Yeah, yeah, we were told the "state's rights" crap in high school in the 1970s. The great thing about the internet is the Southern Articles of Secession are online. Some of them actually wait until the second paragraph or so to say that slavery is the reason for Secession.
 
2020-06-01 8:26:59 AM  

Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives," Bessenger wrote in the statement.

That's what the Confederacy was, too, asshole.


Lay down with dogs...
 
2020-06-01 8:28:17 AM  
It's not easy to admit you were wrong.  Good for him.  Seriously.
 
2020-06-01 8:29:06 AM  

Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives," Bessenger wrote in the statement.

That's what the Confederacy was, too, asshole.


I'd love to hear him say more on these "less honorable motives."  Sometimes things need to be spelled out in sickening detail for them to really stick.
 
2020-06-01 8:30:29 AM  
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2020-06-01 8:30:34 AM  
He may have been misguided and illinformed( perhaps willingly), but he is doing the right thing by renouncing his past "Cause".
 
2020-06-01 8:31:35 AM  
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2020-06-01 8:34:03 AM  
I have always been of the belief the sacrifices made by individual Confederate Soldiers during the war as exclusive from the political and personal agendas of those who controlled and manipulated the racist organization which was the Confederate Government.


Yeah, no.
 
2020-06-01 8:34:20 AM  

Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives," Bessenger wrote in the statement.

That's what the Confederacy was, too, asshole.


Why is he an asshole?  He learned and changed.  Isn't that what you want?  If there's no way back for people why should they ever change?
 
2020-06-01 8:34:58 AM  

dionysusaur: It's a start.


It is. Dumbass is still a dumbass, but maybe not an irredeemable dumbass.
 
2020-06-01 8:35:10 AM  

Unobtanium: Yeah, yeah, we were told the "state's rights" crap in high school in the 1970s. The great thing about the internet is the Southern Articles of Secession are online. Some of them actually wait until the second paragraph or so to say that slavery is the reason for Secession.


Not to mention the cornerstone speech.

"[The Confederacy's] foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery-subordination to the superior race-is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."
-CSA Vice President Alexander H. Stephens, defending the Confederate constitution.
 
2020-06-01 8:35:26 AM  
Just a reminder that if schools and government offices weren't already closed due to pandemic, they'd be closed today in Alabama for Jefferson Davis Day.


https://www.al.com/news/2019/06/jeffe​r​son-davis-birthday-is-state-holiday-in​-alabama-whats-open-whats-closed-today​.html
 
2020-06-01 8:37:04 AM  
Kinda curious to hear him flesh out the "less than honorable motives" he was talking about. Give a young, idealistic and naive young man credit for change - credit for paying attention to whatever lightbulb clicked on in his soul.
 
2020-06-01 8:38:26 AM  

Unobtanium: Yeah, yeah, we were told the "state's rights" crap in high school in the 1970s. The great thing about the internet is the Southern Articles of Secession are online. Some of them actually wait until the second paragraph or so to say that slavery is the reason for Secession.


I think there was only one that waiting until the second paragraph.
 
2020-06-01 8:38:48 AM  

Graffito: He learned and changed.


He actually hasn't, though.  He still thinks that flying a Confederate flag and being a secessionist is a good thing.  He simply, and delusionally, now thinks that his "movement" has been hijacked by racists instead of realizing that it is racist to its core and always has been.
 
2020-06-01 8:39:11 AM  
Looks like the assholes that MAGA made proud to be assholes are slinking back into the shadows again. That's probably a good sign.
 
2020-06-01 8:40:31 AM  

LL316: It's not easy to admit you were wrong.  Good for him.  Seriously.


Be careful. Fark is on the "These people can never change or learn and must be bombed from orbit" train and there are no brakes.
 
2020-06-01 8:41:15 AM  

Minus1Kelvin: Looks like the assholes that MAGA made proud to be assholes are slinking back into the shadows again. That's probably a good sign.


The MAGAts are slithering back under the rocks. The Earth is healing itself.
 
2020-06-01 8:41:46 AM  

BafflerMeal: LL316: It's not easy to admit you were wrong.  Good for him.  Seriously.

Be careful. Fark is on the "These people can never change or learn and must be bombed from orbit" train and there are no brakes.


Poor misunderstood confederate flag waving cretins.
 
2020-06-01 8:44:00 AM  

BizarreMan: Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives," Bessenger wrote in the statement.

That's what the Confederacy was, too, asshole.

I suppose it's hard to come to grips with your ancestors being evil people.


Yup.

I'm not gonna hate on someone eventually coming around to realizing they've been on the wrong side. He seems to have come around, better late than never.
 
2020-06-01 8:47:09 AM  

Graffito: Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives," Bessenger wrote in the statement.

That's what the Confederacy was, too, asshole.

Why is he an asshole?  He learned and changed.  Isn't that what you want?  If there's no way back for people why should they ever change?


He "learned" nothing except that modern Confederates are often racist.

He still calls it "The War Between the States" (a phrase dripping with Lost Cause saliva), still believes that Confederate soldiers weren't racists (on that point, I may have bad news about the Union soliders too - also Abraham "I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races" Lincoln. Fair to assume Confederates were AT LEAST that racist), still believes that it's possible to separate the image of the Confederate flag from the racism it's used to represent, and still "justifiably hold[s] their ancestors and their sacrifices in [his] heart[]"...

All he's learned is to not say the quiet part loud. Progress, to be sure, but a little more work like that and he'll almost be close to getting near the part of the point that is crucial to forming the basis for an understanding of why the Confederate flag is an unrehabbable icon of American racism.
 
2020-06-01 8:47:38 AM  

NotCodger: That. It's also why the election of Lincoln was the straw that broke the camel's back and started the Civil War. The slave states were afraid he would use his office to limit or eliminate slavery.


South Carolina voted against the independence in 1776. They were the last to be cajoled into joining the USA and the first to leave.
 
2020-06-01 8:49:35 AM  
I am often amused by the number of people that will give waaaayyyy too much credit to their ancestors for being able to separate why the Civil War was being fought and what their ancestors were actually fighting for.

No one wants to believe their relatives were racist and nothing more.

Part of the "whitewashing" of history I hear often down here in the south is "slaves weren't treated as bad as they say, after all, you wouldn't break your own tractor, would you? It wouldn't be cost effective" the notion that a human was seen as a piece of property akin to a tractor is totally lost on them.

If the guy had an actual change of heart, great but, I think it's more along the lines of him getting tired of trying to explain why he's not a racist and losing that discussion every time.
 
2020-06-01 8:50:53 AM  

LL316: It's not easy to admit you were wrong.  Good for him.  Seriously.


Except for...

Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives," Bessenger wrote in the statement.



It's more like those apologies people issue that people were offended, not so much that they said or did something awful, just that other people didn't like it when he spoke truth to power, so he'll simply "apologize" for their temerity because they have the number, while not actually admitting he was actually wrong.
 
2020-06-01 8:53:15 AM  
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2020-06-01 8:54:36 AM  

LesserEvil: LL316: It's not easy to admit you were wrong.  Good for him.  Seriously.

Except for...

Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives," Bessenger wrote in the statement.


It's more like those apologies people issue that people were offended, not so much that they said or did something awful, just that other people didn't like it when he spoke truth to power, so he'll simply "apologize" for their temerity because they have the number, while not actually admitting he was actually wrong.


Well, I'm sorry you feel that way...
 
2020-06-01 8:54:50 AM  
"I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives,"

For those of us in the cheap seats: Tell me more about the cultural, historical and academic value of the Confederacy, as separate from the United States? ...slavery?   Aristocratic greed?  Hubris?  Glorification of stupidity? Southern "values" are a millstone around the neck of the Union.
 
2020-06-01 8:55:54 AM  

BafflerMeal: LL316: It's not easy to admit you were wrong.  Good for him.  Seriously.

Be careful. Fark is on the "These people can never change or learn and must be bombed from orbit" train and there are no brakes.


Or we just have to appreciate the exception to the rule for what it is - an exception to the rule.
 
2020-06-01 8:56:01 AM  
You know what? I get it. If the Russians invaded America tomorrow, my ass would take up arms and try to defend the streets of a country that I was literally JUST protesting against last weekend. So I can see how a person might be able to convince themselves that the average Confederate soldier could be both against the ideals of the Confederacy and still in the fight. But there ain't been a single " Confederate heritage" organization that wasn't a collection of racists wearing the smallest fig leaf they could find. He never stood a chance.
 
2020-06-01 9:03:43 AM  
Call it a hot take, tell me I'm one of them, whatever, but...

When someone comes around like this, acknowledges the problems, and reverses course on their abhorrent positions, it should be rewarded, encouraged, condoned, and respected.

If you're flogging the guy for coming around, you're part of the reason they usually don't.

I want to say that again; if someone makes a genuine, sincere effort to redeem themselves, and you mock them for it, you only reinforce the futile, nihilistic depictions of trying to understand your own position.

If those words are too big for you, I'll give it in dialog format:

Actor A: "Gosh, you know, I'm sorry. The thing I did was garbage, and I was a garbage person for  doing it."
Actor B: "You're right. You're garbage, you were garbage then and you're garbage for being garbage in the past. You're a moron for being garbage too."
Actor C: "Look what happens when we try an reconcile! It's pointless!"
 
2020-06-01 9:07:37 AM  

Clearly Canadian: Call it a hot take, tell me I'm one of them, whatever, but...

When someone comes around like this, acknowledges the problems, and reverses course on their abhorrent positions, it should be rewarded, encouraged, condoned, and respected.

If you're flogging the guy for coming around, you're part of the reason they usually don't.

I want to say that again; if someone makes a genuine, sincere effort to redeem themselves, and you mock them for it, you only reinforce the futile, nihilistic depictions of trying to understand your own position.

If those words are too big for you, I'll give it in dialog format:

Actor A: "Gosh, you know, I'm sorry. The thing I did was garbage, and I was a garbage person for  doing it."
Actor B: "You're right. You're garbage, you were garbage then and you're garbage for being garbage in the past. You're a moron for being garbage too."
Actor C: "Look what happens when we try an reconcile! It's pointless!"


Again, he didn't "come around".  He's still an unrepentant flag-waving Confederate dickbag.  He just, for some reason, thinks his little Confederate-flag-waving secessionist-ass-kissing club was infiltrated by racists (which is the only thing he's "sorry" about) rather than, y'know, being all about the racism from the very start.
 
2020-06-01 9:12:12 AM  

A'isha P.: Clearly Canadian: Call it a hot take, tell me I'm one of them, whatever, but...

When someone comes around like this, acknowledges the problems, and reverses course on their abhorrent positions, it should be rewarded, encouraged, condoned, and respected.

If you're flogging the guy for coming around, you're part of the reason they usually don't.

I want to say that again; if someone makes a genuine, sincere effort to redeem themselves, and you mock them for it, you only reinforce the futile, nihilistic depictions of trying to understand your own position.

If those words are too big for you, I'll give it in dialog format:

Actor A: "Gosh, you know, I'm sorry. The thing I did was garbage, and I was a garbage person for  doing it."
Actor B: "You're right. You're garbage, you were garbage then and you're garbage for being garbage in the past. You're a moron for being garbage too."
Actor C: "Look what happens when we try an reconcile! It's pointless!"

Again, he didn't "come around".  He's still an unrepentant flag-waving Confederate dickbag.  He just, for some reason, thinks his little Confederate-flag-waving secessionist-ass-kissing club was infiltrated by racists (which is the only thing he's "sorry" about) rather than, y'know, being all about the racism from the very start.


I think you may not have read the last part of his statement;

While there will always be those who justifiably hold their ancestors and their sacrifices in their hearts, the heart and museums are now, in my opinion, the only justifiable places for such sentiments. The pain, fear, anger, and uncertainty that such displays project do nothing to edify and unite our community. While I cannot undo the hurt, grief, fear, and apprehension that the weekly flagging's at the battery have caused countless passersby, I pray that I can play a part in putting an end to this unnecessary, unproductive legacy.

Therefore, on behalf of the people of Charleston, myself, and our city, I call on the discontinuation of the Flagging of the Charleston Battery and I would like to personally apologize from the depths of my heart for the impact The South Carolina Secessionist Party has had on our community, our city, our State, and its people, as well as that being caused by these remnants of the organization today. I pray diligently for the forgiveness of the People, and look forward to opportunities to be more productive in the future.

That doesn't really fit the profile of someone who is an "unrepentant flag-waving Confederate dickbag."

That's an apology, and a call to stop waving the confederate flag.
 
2020-06-01 9:15:20 AM  

BizarreMan: Doctor Funkenstein: FTFA: "I eventually learned, however, that those in the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives," Bessenger wrote in the statement.

That's what the Confederacy was, too, asshole.

I suppose it's hard to come to grips with your ancestors being evil people.


I had dozens of family members on the Nazi side of the war, almost no americans. fark Nazis.

/not that hard
 
2020-06-01 9:16:03 AM  

Clearly Canadian: I want to say that again; if someone makes a genuine, sincere effort to redeem themselves, and you mock them for it, you only reinforce the futile, nihilistic depictions of trying to understand your own position.


"I stopped using the N-word! PRAISE ME!"

If someone ALMOST gets to that minimal level of "not being racist", they don't get plaudits and deserve to get mocked. Sure, "welcome to not being a racist, glad you're here", but part of that evolution should be the former-racist's recognition that non-racism was ALWAYS the right choice.

The truly reformed non-racist - one who makes that genuine and sincere effort to redeem themselves - should not be seeking praise for being a non-shiatty person, nor should they hinge their non-racism on acceptance by the non-racist community. True reform means apologizing for and taking ownership of your past (like Robert Byrd did), and working to fix the future.

Half-rejecting what's been done in the name of the Confederacy because so many supporters are racists completely misses the point.
 
2020-06-01 9:23:50 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Clearly Canadian: I want to say that again; if someone makes a genuine, sincere effort to redeem themselves, and you mock them for it, you only reinforce the futile, nihilistic depictions of trying to understand your own position.

"I stopped using the N-word! PRAISE ME!"

If someone ALMOST gets to that minimal level of "not being racist", they don't get plaudits and deserve to get mocked. Sure, "welcome to not being a racist, glad you're here", but part of that evolution should be the former-racist's recognition that non-racism was ALWAYS the right choice.

The truly reformed non-racist - one who makes that genuine and sincere effort to redeem themselves - should not be seeking praise for being a non-shiatty person, nor should they hinge their non-racism on acceptance by the non-racist community. True reform means apologizing for and taking ownership of your past (like Robert Byrd did), and working to fix the future.

Half-rejecting what's been done in the name of the Confederacy because so many supporters are racists completely misses the point.


So then honest question; If that's what's on the other side for someone who comes around, what reason do they have to do it? What motivation do they have?

I'll tell you something about people you're not going to like; "take abuse because it's the right thing to do" has historically, never been the Gregorian chant of the average person.
 
2020-06-01 9:27:54 AM  

Clearly Canadian: Again, he didn't "come around".  He's still an unrepentant flag-waving Confederate dickbag.  He just, for some reason, thinks his little Confederate-flag-waving secessionist-ass-kissing club was infiltrated by racists (which is the only thing he's "sorry" about) rather than, y'know, being all about the racism from the very start.

I think you may not have read the last part of his statement;

While there will always be those who justifiably hold their ancestors and their sacrifices in their hearts, the heart and museums are now, in my opinion, the only justifiable places for such sentiments. The pain, fear, anger, and uncertainty that such displays project do nothing to edify and unite our community. While I cannot undo the hurt, grief, fear, and apprehension that the weekly flagging's at the battery have caused countless passersby, I pray that I can play a part in putting an end to this unnecessary, unproductive legacy.

Therefore, on behalf of the people of Charleston, myself, and our city, I call on the discontinuation of the Flagging of the Charleston Battery and I would like to personally apologize from the depths of my heart for the impact The South Carolina Secessionist Party has had on our community, our city, our State, and its people, as well as that being caused by these remnants of the organization today. I pray diligently for the forgiveness of the People, and look forward to opportunities to be more productive in the future.

That doesn't really fit the profile of someone who is an "unrepentant flag-waving Confederate dickbag."

That's an apology, and a call to stop waving the confederate flag.


No, it's a call to specifically stop the Flagging of the Charleston Battery event.

Elsewhere in his statement, he says he's "always been of the belief the sacrifices made by individual Confederate Soldiers during the war as exclusive from the political and personal agendas of those who controlled and manipulated the racist organization which was the Confederate Government", and is part of "the Confederate Heritage Community who genuinely wish to preserve the cultural, historical, and academic value of the Confederacy", he's just shocked, shocked that people like him (who in his statement calls the Civil War by its Lost Causer name of "the War Between the States") "are greatly and irreversibly outnumbered by those who have far less honorable motives".

Then he goes on to promise that he will be one of those who "will always be those who justifiably hold their ancestors and their sacrifices in their hearts".

So, like I said, he is mad about the racist who he bizarrely claims to have "hijacked" his movement, and he is distancing himself from the racists, but he's still an openly proud Confederate.  And, since "Confederate Heritage" is inextricably linked to racism and always has been, all he is is just the same old seccessionist asshole disingenuously insisting "heritage not hate".
 
2020-06-01 9:31:41 AM  

Clearly Canadian: Call it a hot take, tell me I'm one of them, whatever, but...

When someone comes around like this, acknowledges the problems, and reverses course on their abhorrent positions, it should be rewarded, encouraged, condoned, and respected.

If you're flogging the guy for coming around, you're part of the reason they usually don't.

I want to say that again; if someone makes a genuine, sincere effort to redeem themselves, and you mock them for it, you only reinforce the futile, nihilistic depictions of trying to understand your own position.

If those words are too big for you, I'll give it in dialog format:

Actor A: "Gosh, you know, I'm sorry. The thing I did was garbage, and I was a garbage person for  doing it."
Actor B: "You're right. You're garbage, you were garbage then and you're garbage for being garbage in the past. You're a moron for being garbage too."
Actor C: "Look what happens when we try an reconcile! It's pointless!"


You can't be a genuine racialist if you accept the apologies of reformed racists.
Racists can't be reformed if it's forever part of their nature.
 
2020-06-01 9:35:36 AM  
This fat redneck f*ck can go somewhere and die screaming in agony for all I care. In fact I hope he does. It's amazing these jackass racists don't know that their actions have consequences.
 
2020-06-01 9:43:20 AM  
Sounds like someone has some nasty dirt on this guy and he is trying to get out in front of it before it drops.
 
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