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2020-06-01 2:29:08 AM  
Security forces in Minneapolis marched down a quiet residential street and shot paint canisters at residents who were watching from their private porch

That was the national guard, I think, not cops.  I guess the guard was anxious to get in on the thuggery.
 
2020-06-01 2:37:00 AM  
This keeps up, we're gonna start seeing IEDs deployed against cops.
 
2020-06-01 3:14:10 AM  
It's incredible that they're being this violent (a) during protests against police brutality, (b) knowing the protesters all have phones with cameras, (c) with national media present and watching them.

They absolutely do not give a f*ck. They're an occupying force making it very clear they intend to rule through fear and suppression rather than through consent of the governed. And all the supposed "good cops" are suiting up and standing side by side with em.

Fark it. ACAB.
 
2020-06-01 6:13:02 AM  
That cop who shoved the old man with a cane to the ground? I hope a world of painful justice comes down on his shoulders.
 
2020-06-01 6:35:42 AM  

August11: That cop who shoved the old man with a cane to the ground? I hope a world of painful justice comes down on his shoulders.


i don't have any faith in justice anymore.

i hope he has terrible hemorrhoids.
 
2020-06-01 6:37:49 AM  

kudayta: This keeps up, we're gonna start seeing IEDs deployed against cops.


I'm not really bothered by something like that anymore. If the police wanted me to have sympathy for them, they wouldn't have been murderous, authoritarian, savage oafs for the last several decades.
 
2020-06-01 6:38:11 AM  
2020: Australia burns, Siberia swelters and melts, we enter another recession, interest rates bottom out, pandemic, 41 million jobs lost, stay at home protests, racism protests, and now widespread rioting.

*sigh* fark. There are not enough drugs on earth to fight this anxiety.
 
2020-06-01 6:39:32 AM  

kudayta: This keeps up, we're gonna start seeing IEDs deployed against cops.


And just like that we turned into Iraq. Complete with our own Baghdad Bobs.

I can't be the only American just utterly blow away by how fast the rot accelerated. We always knew it was there, of course, but damn it crumbled all at once. . .
 
2020-06-01 6:40:42 AM  
Also a lot of news orgs, a lot of social media users, etc., trying desperately to pivot away from confronting the problem to putting protestors on the defensive and making them condemn rioters or looters.

F*ck that. Riot and loot. The police have been firmly stating through their actions and words that black lives don't matter. All of America is being told that they need to go back to work and die for the stock market, thereby implying human life is worth less than money and stuff.

The second you are told your life is worth less than insured, replaceable stuff, that's when you break sh*t and set sh*t on fire.

Don't let them try to condemn riots. Riots are needed right now. Keep rioting.
 
2020-06-01 6:42:59 AM  

tuxq: 2020: Australia burns, Siberia swelters and melts, we enter another recession, interest rates bottom out, pandemic, 41 million jobs lost, stay at home protests, racism protests, and now widespread rioting.

*sigh* fark. There are not enough drugs on earth to fight this anxiety.


Add that a lot of folks are experiencing some kind of domestic violence and you've got a really good recipe for a hellscape.
 
2020-06-01 6:44:13 AM  
I hear they shot a dude dead in the Ville last night.  Not sure of the circumstances.
 
2020-06-01 6:44:24 AM  

bluejeansonfire: Also a lot of news orgs, a lot of social media users, etc., trying desperately to pivot away from confronting the problem to putting protestors on the defensive and making them condemn rioters or looters.

F*ck that. Riot and loot. The police have been firmly stating through their actions and words that black lives don't matter. All of America is being told that they need to go back to work and die for the stock market, thereby implying human life is worth less than money and stuff.

The second you are told your life is worth less than insured, replaceable stuff, that's when you break sh*t and set sh*t on fire.

Don't let them try to condemn riots. Riots are needed right now. Keep rioting.


Screen name checks out bigly.
 
2020-06-01 6:45:50 AM  
I think we can all pat ourselves on the back for not electing the woman with the private email server. That could have been a disaster.
 
2020-06-01 6:47:18 AM  
Looks like the rioters have accomplished their goal and have given police a warm and fuzzy feeling about them. I'm sure all future interactions will be much better as they have shown them they  have nothing to be concerned about.

What a disaster this has been. From a practical standpoint, what are the chances of a positive outcome? When you say you want change, if you're not careful, you get change for the worse.
 
2020-06-01 6:48:18 AM  
Notice the cops do these things against peaceful protesters but don't lift a finger when there's actual looting going on. Much easier to beat up on people who don't fight back.

I'm all for some police brutality if it's being used against people wielding weapons, breaking into buildings, and setting things on fire. There's a certain sense of "like for like" that most reasonable people can accept.

Beating down old men with canes and tear gassing peaceful protesters, on the other hand...fark that noise. Cops overplaying their hands are going to get farked hard when this is all over.
 
2020-06-01 6:50:58 AM  

Shaggy_C: Notice the cops do these things against peaceful protesters but don't lift a finger when there's actual looting going on. Much easier to beat up on people who don't fight back.

I'm all for some police brutality if it's being used against people wielding weapons, breaking into buildings, and setting things on fire. There's a certain sense of "like for like" that most reasonable people can accept.

Beating down old men with canes and tear gassing peaceful protesters, on the other hand...fark that noise. Cops overplaying their hands are going to get farked hard when this is all over.


BULLIES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!
 
2020-06-01 6:51:16 AM  
Congratulations.

This is what you get when you allow the government to see itself as the ends, rather than the means to an end, for so long that it sees itself as the ultimate arbiter of "justice".

When it's rationalized itself as "justified" in wielding any degree of lethal force, and escalating any situation (and resistance it receives) to the point that it can bring that lethal force to bear upon the citizens it's supposed to pretend to "serve".

When the courts rule that Law Enforcement's job doesn't include protecting the citizens.

/Until all of us can count on justice, none of us can count on justice./
 
2020-06-01 6:52:05 AM  

kudayta: This keeps up, we're gonna start seeing IEDs deployed against cops.


Can you even buy a burner phone for cash nowadays?
Asking for a friend....
 
2020-06-01 6:52:06 AM  

Peki: kudayta: This keeps up, we're gonna start seeing IEDs deployed against cops.

And just like that we turned into Iraq. Complete with our own Baghdad Bobs.

I can't be the only American just utterly blow away by how fast the rot accelerated. We always knew it was there, of course, but damn it crumbled all at once. . .


Rots from the head down. I'm not surprised when we elected a professional conman, potentially financially compromised by our  foreign "friends".
 
2020-06-01 6:52:11 AM  

pkjun: It's incredible that they're being this violent (a) during protests against police brutality, (b) knowing the protesters all have phones with cameras, (c) with national media present and watching them.

They absolutely do not give a f*ck. They're an occupying force making it very clear they intend to rule through fear and suppression rather than through consent of the governed. And all the supposed "good cops" are suiting up and standing side by side with em.

Fark it. ACAB.


The president, senate and supreme court in on their side.
 
2020-06-01 6:52:35 AM  

Peki: kudayta: This keeps up, we're gonna start seeing IEDs deployed against cops.

And just like that we turned into Iraq. Complete with our own Baghdad Bobs.

I can't be the only American just utterly blow away by how fast the rot accelerated. We always knew it was there, of course, but damn it crumbled all at once. . .


That's the thing about structural rot--It still looks pretty solid right up until it isn't.  Then it collapses.  The people we allowed into power knew what we wanted it to look like, so that's what they delivered.
 
2020-06-01 6:53:05 AM  

king of vegas: I think we can all pat ourselves on the back for not electing the woman with the private email server. That could have been a disaster.


What difference, at this point, would it make? She would have sent in the national guard and condemned looters as "thugs" too, just like the last president in 2015. For all of Trump's shiatty communication, victim blaming, and all in all racist attitude, when it comes down "boots on the ground" it's just the new boss, same as the old boss.
 
2020-06-01 6:55:11 AM  
 
2020-06-01 6:55:15 AM  
There have been multiple cities where the police have joined the protesters in solidarity.  None of those cities are on fire.
 
2020-06-01 6:56:40 AM  

hestheone: kudayta: This keeps up, we're gonna start seeing IEDs deployed against cops.

Can you even buy a burner phone for cash nowadays?
Asking for a friend....


yes, yes you can.
 
2020-06-01 6:57:26 AM  

bluejeansonfire: Also a lot of news orgs, a lot of social media users, etc., trying desperately to pivot away from confronting the problem to putting protestors on the defensive and making them condemn rioters or looters.

F*ck that. Riot and loot. The police have been firmly stating through their actions and words that black lives don't matter. All of America is being told that they need to go back to work and die for the stock market, thereby implying human life is worth less than money and stuff.

The second you are told your life is worth less than insured, replaceable stuff, that's when you break sh*t and set sh*t on fire.

Don't let them try to condemn riots. Riots are needed right now. Keep rioting.


Even with insurance most people will take a hit. My business insurance won't cover what I should have made while not working. My car insurance will pay off my car but wouldn't be enough to buy a brand new one. Wages aren't always paid either so I wouldn't be surprised if a whole bunch of looted and burned out businesses take their insurance payout and close up. But hey, people are angry at the cops so that diner needs to burn.
 
2020-06-01 6:57:36 AM  

Shaggy_C: Notice the cops do these things against peaceful protesters but don't lift a finger when there's actual looting going on. Much easier to beat up on people who don't fight back.

I'm all for some police brutality if it's being used against people wielding weapons, breaking into buildings, and setting things on fire. There's a certain sense of "like for like" that most reasonable people can accept.

Beating down old men with canes and tear gassing peaceful protesters, on the other hand...fark that noise. Cops overplaying their hands are going to get farked hard when this is all over.


That "like for a like" mindset is what got us here. Why should people who get executed in the street with no repercussions care about a Target? There's only one group that operates with guidelines and restrictions. It's the police and if they can't show restraint, it's a slippery slope to you and I.

And no, most of these cops will not be held accountable. Hence, we are where we are
 
2020-06-01 6:59:49 AM  

Shaggy_C: king of vegas: I think we can all pat ourselves on the back for not electing the woman with the private email server. That could have been a disaster.

What difference, at this point, would it make? She would have sent in the national guard and condemned looters as "thugs" too, just like the last president in 2015. For all of Trump's shiatty communication, victim blaming, and all in all racist attitude, when it comes down "boots on the ground" it's just the new boss, same as the old boss.


Well one Presidential nominee was out among the protesters, the other? Hunkered down in a vault.
 
2020-06-01 7:00:37 AM  

SecondaryControl: That's the thing about structural rot--It still looks pretty solid right up until it isn't. Then it collapses.

No, it doesn't.  It collapses because an expert points at it and says "that's going to collapse" and the owner does nothing, then that not-crazy aunt or uncle with a background in construction goes "that's going to collapse" and the owner does nothing, then the rot is so screamingly obvious that passersby point at it and go "that's going to collapse" and the owner does nothing because owner is soooo smart, you see, and doesn't need no fancy "experts" or "reality" telling him what's what.  Eventually the entire neighborhood is screaming "THAT'S GOING TO COLLAPSE" in a unified intervention, and the owner calls the head of the HOA to ban such nonsense.

Then it collapses.
 
2020-06-01 7:01:56 AM  

bluejeansonfire: Also a lot of news orgs, a lot of social media users, etc., trying desperately to pivot away from confronting the problem to putting protestors on the defensive and making them condemn rioters or looters.

F*ck that. Riot and loot. The police have been firmly stating through their actions and words that black lives don't matter. All of America is being told that they need to go back to work and die for the stock market, thereby implying human life is worth less than money and stuff.

The second you are told your life is worth less than insured, replaceable stuff, that's when you break sh*t and set sh*t on fire.

Don't let them try to condemn riots. Riots are needed right now. Keep rioting.


This is the rioting that you want more of:

https://twitter.com/patrolrpd/status/​1​267202275895803904?s=21

How much more of that do you want exactly?
 
2020-06-01 7:02:34 AM  

RTOGUY: bluejeansonfire: Also a lot of news orgs, a lot of social media users, etc., trying desperately to pivot away from confronting the problem to putting protestors on the defensive and making them condemn rioters or looters.

F*ck that. Riot and loot. The police have been firmly stating through their actions and words that black lives don't matter. All of America is being told that they need to go back to work and die for the stock market, thereby implying human life is worth less than money and stuff.

The second you are told your life is worth less than insured, replaceable stuff, that's when you break sh*t and set sh*t on fire.

Don't let them try to condemn riots. Riots are needed right now. Keep rioting.

Even with insurance most people will take a hit. My business insurance won't cover what I should have made while not working. My car insurance will pay off my car but wouldn't be enough to buy a brand new one. Wages aren't always paid either so I wouldn't be surprised if a whole bunch of looted and burned out businesses take their insurance payout and close up. But hey, people are angry at the cops so that diner needs to burn.


When you deny people justice at every turn for decades, that rage will explode out indiscriminately.

If you don't understand the context and circumstances behind why your business is being hurt right now, then you're never going to understand what's happening.

Riots get sh*t done.
 
2020-06-01 7:02:35 AM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: Looks like the rioters have accomplished their goal and have given police a warm and fuzzy feeling about them. I'm sure all future interactions will be much better as they have shown them they  have nothing to be concerned about.

What a disaster this has been. From a practical standpoint, what are the chances of a positive outcome? When you say you want change, if you're not careful, you get change for the worse.


they only hit us because they love us.
 
2020-06-01 7:02:53 AM  

johnny queso: August11: That cop who shoved the old man with a cane to the ground? I hope a world of painful justice comes down on his shoulders.

i don't have any faith in justice anymore.

i hope he has terrible hemorrhoids.


I hope that on his deathbed, he get's "It's a Small World" stuck in his head.
 
2020-06-01 7:05:16 AM  

Shaggy_C: Notice the cops do these things against peaceful protesters but don't lift a finger when there's actual looting going on. Much easier to beat up on people who don't fight back.

I'm all for some police brutality if it's being used against people wielding weapons, breaking into buildings, and setting things on fire. There's a certain sense of "like for like" that most reasonable people can accept.

Beating down old men with canes and tear gassing peaceful protesters, on the other hand...fark that noise. Cops overplaying their hands are going to get farked hard when this is all over.


I can't tell if you are being sarcastic you
 
2020-06-01 7:05:23 AM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: bluejeansonfire: Also a lot of news orgs, a lot of social media users, etc., trying desperately to pivot away from confronting the problem to putting protestors on the defensive and making them condemn rioters or looters.

F*ck that. Riot and loot. The police have been firmly stating through their actions and words that black lives don't matter. All of America is being told that they need to go back to work and die for the stock market, thereby implying human life is worth less than money and stuff.

The second you are told your life is worth less than insured, replaceable stuff, that's when you break sh*t and set sh*t on fire.

Don't let them try to condemn riots. Riots are needed right now. Keep rioting.

This is the rioting that you want more of:

https://twitter.com/patrolrpd/status/1​267202275895803904?s=21

How much more of that do you want exactly?


Did I stutter?

All of it. Riots get sh*t done.

The officer who killed Floyd was arrested only AFTER the precinct was burned.

They kneeled, people called them traitors. They blocked roads, people ran them over.

Now when they're breaking and burning, people pay attention.

Occupy Wall Street was peaceful, and it was firmly swept under the rug of history. Recent strikes have been intentionally ignored by news.

Do the math.
 
2020-06-01 7:05:26 AM  

SomeAFguy: Peki: kudayta: This keeps up, we're gonna start seeing IEDs deployed against cops.

And just like that we turned into Iraq. Complete with our own Baghdad Bobs.

I can't be the only American just utterly blow away by how fast the rot accelerated. We always knew it was there, of course, but damn it crumbled all at once. . .

Rots from the head down. I'm not surprised when we elected a professional conman, potentially financially compromised by our  foreign "friends".


Yep, in no way did the rot "accelerate". The rot has been there, but now the rot is there for the world to see and take advantage of. Once the pests start invading your house, its because you put out the welcome mat for them.
 
2020-06-01 7:05:49 AM  

bluejeansonfire: RTOGUY: bluejeansonfire: Also a lot of news orgs, a lot of social media users, etc., trying desperately to pivot away from confronting the problem to putting protestors on the defensive and making them condemn rioters or looters.

F*ck that. Riot and loot. The police have been firmly stating through their actions and words that black lives don't matter. All of America is being told that they need to go back to work and die for the stock market, thereby implying human life is worth less than money and stuff.

The second you are told your life is worth less than insured, replaceable stuff, that's when you break sh*t and set sh*t on fire.

Don't let them try to condemn riots. Riots are needed right now. Keep rioting.

Even with insurance most people will take a hit. My business insurance won't cover what I should have made while not working. My car insurance will pay off my car but wouldn't be enough to buy a brand new one. Wages aren't always paid either so I wouldn't be surprised if a whole bunch of looted and burned out businesses take their insurance payout and close up. But hey, people are angry at the cops so that diner needs to burn.

When you deny people justice at every turn for decades, that rage will explode out indiscriminately.

If you don't understand the context and circumstances behind why your business is being hurt right now, then you're never going to understand what's happening.

Riots get sh*t done.


I hope when it's all over all the unemployed people can understand it was for the greater good.
 
2020-06-01 7:06:36 AM  

Flappyhead: There have been multiple cities where the police have joined the protesters in solidarity.  None of those cities are on fire.


I just don't understand the correlation
 
2020-06-01 7:06:53 AM  

tuxq: 2020: Australia burns, Siberia swelters and melts, we enter another recession, interest rates bottom out, pandemic, 41 million jobs lost, stay at home protests, racism protests, and now widespread rioting.

*sigh* fark. There are not enough drugs on earth to fight this anxiety.


You just need to switch to dabs instead of weed
 
2020-06-01 7:12:50 AM  
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2020-06-01 7:13:08 AM  

August11: That cop who shoved the old man with a cane to the ground? I hope a world of painful justice comes down on his shoulders.


For me, the clip from SLC is a pretty apt metaphor. The  police are out in full riot gear, charging against regular [protestors. in the process, they instinctively knock the elderly man over even though he is scrambling to get away and is no visible threat to anyone. Heck, he may even be some sort of bystander. Then a few officers stop and help him up having to apologize.

The police have been made so aggressive that they view everyone as "out to kill them" and then spend more time doing damage control form the violence they cause. They lose the respect of the community In the process, making it impossible for themselves to do their job. Apart from the racism and the corruption, from a standpoint of pure capability at what they should be doing, the police are terrible at their jobs.
 
2020-06-01 7:13:45 AM  

Marcos P: tuxq: 2020: Australia burns, Siberia swelters and melts, we enter another recession, interest rates bottom out, pandemic, 41 million jobs lost, stay at home protests, racism protests, and now widespread rioting.

*sigh* fark. There are not enough drugs on earth to fight this anxiety.

You just need to switch to dabs instead of weed


Let's say I can go from shake to bone on bud.

Is there enough to make this make sense?
 
2020-06-01 7:14:41 AM  
cops showing up with badge numbers covered tells me all i need to know about their intent.

those are the bad guys.
 
2020-06-01 7:15:29 AM  
There was a pretty large protest in my town.  It was peaceful.

What I did notice while I was watching some live social media feeds though is that there is a small percentage of the population that is actively trying to cause trouble.  In this case, there was at least one person who was lying about different businesses  being vandalized or on fire.  People like that are hateful assholes.
 
2020-06-01 7:17:48 AM  
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2020-06-01 7:18:18 AM  

bire: Also a lot of news orgs, a lot of social media users, etc., trying desperately to pivot away from confronting the problem to putting protestors on the defensive and making them condemn rioters or looters.

F*ck that. Riot and loot. The police have been firmly stating through their actions and words that black lives don't matter. All of America is being told that they need to go back to work and die for the stock market, thereby implying human life is worth less than money and stuff.

The second you are told your life is worth less than insured, replaceable stuff, that's when you break sh*t and set sh*t on fire.

Don't let them try to condemn riots. Riots are needed right now. Keep rioting.

No need to worry, rioting and looting is continuing, These people somehow found the time while mourning the loss off George Floyd to be the crap out of an old lady.   I know large chucks of  thinks the rioters and looters are all white supremacists ( some must be the offspring of Clayton Bigsby though)   , but you get it.  The only way to fight the power is to pummel some lady with gray hair.  Here are your heros in action.



https://13wham.com/news/local/woman-​at​tacked-outside-rochester-business?jwso​urce=cl
 
2020-06-01 7:18:40 AM  
 
2020-06-01 7:19:39 AM  
There are some good cops, who want to help, and then there are the bulk of them who flat out wanted to sign up for the toughest gang with the most connections to avoid prosecution.  Then there's mob mentality.  Even previously decent people act poorly in mobs.

Knowing these truths, riot police are rarely the proper answer, rarely the proper deployment of forces.  If you're choosing to deploy riot police/national guard to solve the problem of "racial disparity by law enforcement" then you've chosen the side of racially disparate law enforcement actions.

Want to choose the side of "correcting racial disparity among law enforcement?"   Then close down Main Street during the day, put out tables and chairs and pitchers of iced tea.  Sit your police force down, unarmed, scattered across the tables randomly, and invite the public to come talk to each other.

Obviously, this is a simplistic naive solution.  A few friendly cops, and a bunch of "afraid without my gun" cops chatting with the public in a neutral position of power is barely a start, but it's a start.

The system is broken, politicians want to keep race on the table, want to keep their constituents ignorant, and afraid.   They don't want to fund urban education.  They don't care about discriminatory housing and hiring practices, because they're personally enriching themselves by keeping people down.
 
2020-06-01 7:20:56 AM  

dittybopper: There was a pretty large protest in my town.  It was peaceful.

What I did notice while I was watching some live social media feeds though is that there is a small percentage of the population that is actively trying to cause trouble.  In this case, there was at least one person who was lying about different businesses  being vandalized or on fire.  People like that are hateful assholes.


unfortunately the bigger the city the more assholes there are. lots of those in l.a. the last few days.
 
2020-06-01 7:21:37 AM  

Peki: kudayta: This keeps up, we're gonna start seeing IEDs deployed against cops.

And just like that we turned into Iraq. Complete with our own Baghdad Bobs.

I can't be the only American just utterly blow away by how fast the rot accelerated. We always knew it was there, of course, but damn it crumbled all at once. . .


Sinkholes. That's how they happen. And you never know they're forming until they eat your house.
 
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