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2020-05-31 10:57:27 AM  
This is a pretty clear abuse of the furlough scheme. The point is to retain jobs by letting the company keep them around while the government picks up the tab -- Gordon's supposedly using it to perversely make it *easier to fire* staff by putting them "on furlough" while they serve out their statutory notice period for layoffs, meaning he can sack them and take them off payroll the same day. If this is true I'm surprised there isn't anything in the regulations preventing the furlough scheme from being used this way, to be honest.

But honestly the Daily Star is the paper the Express looks down on to make itself feel better about looking up to the Sun and the Daily Mail, so who knows.
 
2020-05-31 12:03:12 PM  

pkjun: This is a pretty clear abuse of the furlough scheme. The point is to retain jobs by letting the company keep them around while the government picks up the tab -- Gordon's supposedly using it to perversely make it *easier to fire* staff by putting them "on furlough" while they serve out their statutory notice period for layoffs, meaning he can sack them and take them off payroll the same day. If this is true I'm surprised there isn't anything in the regulations preventing the furlough scheme from being used this way, to be honest.

But honestly the Daily Star is the paper the Express looks down on to make itself feel better about looking up to the Sun and the Daily Mail, so who knows.


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2020-05-31 12:10:20 PM  
Don't know how Ramsey is not considered a total joke. All I see written f his aboutvarious ventures is that they are either: closing, in bankruptcy proceedings, or in the middle of some f*cked-up labor dispute.
 
2020-05-31 12:13:31 PM  
Bslim:

Don't know how Ramsey is not considered a total joke. All I see written f his aboutvarious about his ventures is that they are either: closing, in bankruptcy proceedings, or in the middle of some f*cked-up labor dispute.
 
2020-05-31 12:29:07 PM  
I now regret naming my first two children Gordon and Ramsay.

Sorry, girls!
 
2020-05-31 12:38:51 PM  

Bslim: Don't know how Ramsey is not considered a total joke. All I see written f his aboutvarious ventures is that they are either: closing, in bankruptcy proceedings, or in the middle of some f*cked-up labor dispute.


Isn't that pretty typical of the restaurant business?  Also nearly all information about him not directly from his shows points to that being strictly a "TV personality".  Note that not being a total douchenozzle hardly implies real business savy.  Even staying in the restaurant industry implies he's doing something wrong, but that's what he knows.
 
2020-05-31 12:43:52 PM  

Bslim: Don't know how Ramsey is not considered a total joke. All I see written f his aboutvarious ventures is that they are either: closing, in bankruptcy proceedings, or in the middle of some f*cked-up labor dispute.


With a resume like that, he'd have a clear shot at the Presidency if he wasn't English.
 
2020-05-31 12:47:59 PM  
Give him a break. All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
 
2020-05-31 1:06:35 PM  

Lochsteppe: I now regret naming my first two children Gordon and Ramsay.

Sorry, girls!


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2020-05-31 1:14:35 PM  
Gordon Ramsay's daughter Tilly, 18, 'in talks' to star on Strictly Come Dancing

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Not sure what Come Dancing is but I will give it a watch, is it a PornHub Original?
 
2020-05-31 1:16:40 PM  
I've said this before, but I'll say it again, many restaurants operate on thin margins, and I've seen many fire their staffs and attempt to hire in people at a lower age, because it is cheaper to retrain cheaper labor than retain higher paid staff. From a cold-hearted business perspective (sociopathic), it makes sense, and is enabled by the rampant unemployment.

Any schemes that pay employers to retain their workers should make sure the accountability is airtight on such measures. Clearly, this wasn't done.
 
2020-05-31 1:16:53 PM  

Trocadero: pkjun: This is a pretty clear abuse of the furlough scheme. The point is to retain jobs by letting the company keep them around while the government picks up the tab -- Gordon's supposedly using it to perversely make it *easier to fire* staff by putting them "on furlough" while they serve out their statutory notice period for layoffs, meaning he can sack them and take them off payroll the same day. If this is true I'm surprised there isn't anything in the regulations preventing the furlough scheme from being used this way, to be honest.

But honestly the Daily Star is the paper the Express looks down on to make itself feel better about looking up to the Sun and the Daily Mail, so who knows.

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"But honestly the Daily Star is the paper the National Enquirer looks down on to make itself feel better about looking up to the NY Post and Washington Times, so who knows.

/translated into American
 
2020-05-31 1:17:33 PM  

Susan'sLittleAdamsApple: Gordon Ramsay's daughter Tilly, 18, 'in talks' to star on Strictly Come Dancing

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Not sure what Come Dancing is but I will give it a watch, is it a PornHub Original?


It's more or less UK's Dancing With the Stars.
 
2020-05-31 1:21:12 PM  
"dounchenozzle"?
 
2020-05-31 1:25:58 PM  

Susan'sLittleAdamsApple: Gordon Ramsay's daughter Tilly, 18, 'in talks' to star on Strictly Come Dancing

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Not sure what Come Dancing is but I will give it a watch, is it a PornHub Original?


She looks every bit his offspring.

/not a compliment
 
2020-05-31 1:27:08 PM  
I've not read much about this, but it seems clear that it's legal under the law, and just an abuse, otherwise as known as not intended for that use. Getting super tired of incompetent representatives writing a law and complaining about legal behavior. Write it correctly, that's your job. I don't recall seeing any article that includes a clear explanation that this behavior was legal because the law was written that way, and a different law would have prevented it. It's the government's fault, not Gordon's.

People like Gordon are going to follow the law as it is written, not as it was intended. These people exist and you must protect from them.

Also, "Ramsey, whop is worth a reported $135M" does not help. He has that mostly through TV shows and possibly cook books, not through the restaurant business.. Food is low margin, and tends to fluctuate seasonally. Most attempts go out of business quickly. He has the same problem. And no one wants to seed their own restaurant with personal money to keep it afloat if they don't have to.

He's still a douchenozzle, let's get that straight. But you can't piss on him and him alone when there are many members of Parliament and Congress alike needing a good bepissing.
 
2020-05-31 1:36:32 PM  

Bslim: Don't know how Ramsey is not considered a total joke. All I see written f his aboutvarious ventures is that they are either: closing, in bankruptcy proceedings, or in the middle of some f*cked-up labor dispute.


I've seen some of his actual cooking shows, and he's pretty good, if over-extravagant.
 
2020-05-31 1:47:59 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Bslim: Don't know how Ramsey is not considered a total joke. All I see written f his aboutvarious ventures is that they are either: closing, in bankruptcy proceedings, or in the middle of some f*cked-up labor dispute.

I've seen some of his actual cooking shows, and he's pretty good, if over-extravagant.


The F-Word was entertaining TV and so was the (British) version of Kitchen Nightmares. Now, that second one had him giving sage advice to Restaurateurs on how to properly run their businesses. Now do you see my problem? The man can't take care of his own house and he's running all over the place preaching his bullshiat practices so that...what? Others can go bankrupt too?
 
2020-05-31 1:48:47 PM  

recondite cetacean: I've not read much about this, but it seems clear that it's legal under the law, and just an abuse, otherwise as known as not intended for that use. Getting super tired of incompetent representatives writing a law and complaining about legal behavior. Write it correctly, that's your job. I don't recall seeing any article that includes a clear explanation that this behavior was legal because the law was written that way, and a different law would have prevented it. It's the government's fault, not Gordon's.

People like Gordon are going to follow the law as it is written, not as it was intended. These people exist and you must protect from them.

Also, "Ramsey, whop is worth a reported $135M" does not help. He has that mostly through TV shows and possibly cook books, not through the restaurant business.. Food is low margin, and tends to fluctuate seasonally. Most attempts go out of business quickly. He has the same problem. And no one wants to seed their own restaurant with personal money to keep it afloat if they don't have to.

He's still a douchenozzle, let's get that straight. But you can't piss on him and him alone when there are many members of Parliament and Congress alike needing a good bepissing.


Or the law is written exactly as it was meant to be interpreted. That is, to allow the rich and powerful to abuse it at will, and everyone else getting shafted in the end.
 
2020-05-31 1:51:23 PM  

recondite cetacean: People like Gordon are going to follow the law as it is written, not as it was intended. These people exist and you must protect from them.


They're called assholes, and if we just start  shooting them every time one acts up, there'd be a lot less of it.  After a generation or two you can include a pause with merely an archly raised eyebrow to give them a moment to rethink it before drawing down.
 
2020-05-31 1:53:53 PM  
"It has been claimed"


It's a UK tabloid. It's using a quote in the article to shield itself from liability, so that they can claim "well, that's what we heard - we're just reporting on hearsay." It's using weasel-words right in the goddamned lede, to make it abundantly clear that they're reporting on something that they heard someone else say, with no real corroboration or evidence. It's extrapolated the entire article from an email that "they've seen", allegedly sent by an HR employee to a single employee.

You can pretty much discount the entire goddamned article.
 
2020-05-31 1:56:27 PM  

Lochsteppe: I now regret naming my first two children Gordon and Ramsay.

Sorry, girls!


Just tell them they were named after Flesh Gordon and Ramsey Bolton, two hero's of yours.
 
2020-05-31 2:02:08 PM  

Susan'sLittleAdamsApple: Gordon Ramsay's daughter Tilly, 18, 'in talks' to star on Strictly Come Dancing

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Not sure what Come Dancing is but I will give it a watch, is it a PornHub Original?


No, you spelled come wrong.
 
2020-05-31 2:22:46 PM  
Fark headline: Celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay goes above his usual dounchenozzle duty, uses taxpayer-funded wage furlough scheme to pay his axed staff their notice

TFA header: Gordon Ramsay fury as he 'uses furlough scheme to pay axed staff their notice'

TFA subheader: It has been claimed that TV chef Gordon Ramsay is using the taxpayer-funded furlough wage scheme to pay axed staff their notice.

First line of TFA: Gordon Ramsay is using the taxpayer-funded furlough wage scheme to pay axed staff their notice
 
2020-05-31 2:40:17 PM  
Can someone put what is going on in American English?  What does it mean to "pay notice"
 
2020-05-31 2:56:42 PM  

Persnickety: Fark headline: Celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay goes above his usual dounchenozzle duty, uses taxpayer-funded wage furlough scheme to pay his axed staff their notice

TFA header: Gordon Ramsay fury as he 'uses furlough scheme to pay axed staff their notice'

TFA subheader: It has been claimed that TV chef Gordon Ramsay is using the taxpayer-funded furlough wage scheme to pay axed staff their notice.

First line of TFA: Gordon Ramsay is using the taxpayer-funded furlough wage scheme to pay axed staff their notice


I read that line so many times and I still don't know what it f*cking means.
 
2020-05-31 3:12:23 PM  
Can we quit using "celebrity chef?" Yer one or the other.
 
2020-05-31 3:22:45 PM  

Bslim: Tyrone Slothrop: Bslim: Don't know how Ramsey is not considered a total joke. All I see written f his aboutvarious ventures is that they are either: closing, in bankruptcy proceedings, or in the middle of some f*cked-up labor dispute.

I've seen some of his actual cooking shows, and he's pretty good, if over-extravagant.

The F-Word was entertaining TV and so was the (British) version of Kitchen Nightmares. Now, that second one had him giving sage advice to Restaurateurs on how to properly run their businesses. Now do you see my problem? The man can't take care of his own house and he's running all over the place preaching his bullshiat practices so that...what? Others can go bankrupt too?


You asked why he's not considered a total joke, and I gave you a reason: he's actually a good chef, what ever else he might also be.
 
2020-05-31 3:43:34 PM  

EdgeRunner: Bslim: Don't know how Ramsey is not considered a total joke. All I see written f his aboutvarious ventures is that they are either: closing, in bankruptcy proceedings, or in the middle of some f*cked-up labor dispute.

With a resume like that, he'd have a clear shot at the Presidency if he wasn't English.


I thought he was Scottish
 
2020-05-31 3:45:33 PM  

pkjun: This is a pretty clear abuse of the furlough scheme. The point is to retain jobs by letting the company keep them around while the government picks up the tab -- Gordon's supposedly using it to perversely make it *easier to fire* staff by putting them "on furlough" while they serve out their statutory notice period for layoffs, meaning he can sack them and take them off payroll the same day. If this is true I'm surprised there isn't anything in the regulations preventing the furlough scheme from being used this way, to be honest.

But honestly the Daily Star is the paper the Express looks down on to make itself feel better about looking up to the Sun and the Daily Mail, so who knows.


You might not want to read the local papers here in the States. Right after the corporate bail out was passed, might company put thousands of workers on furlough, anywhere from 25%-100%. Most of us have been on that for 2 months now with a huge IDK???? from corporate when asked when our pay is coming back.

Now mind you, my job didn't change at all, only my "hours" and pay changed. I am still 100% responsible in figuring out how to get my 8+ hours (before the virus) job done in no more than 30 hours and no, I don't qualify for any assistance to make up that missing 25% in pay.

For sales folks (I don't work sales) furloughed 100%, my company is still allowing them to pay for company health insurance and not blocking them from applying for unemployment. For the rest of our sales folks that were only furloughed 50% and are covering for those at 100%, yeah, they don't qualify for assistance even though their pay was cut in half. At least not in my state.

Talk to any person in the restaurant/bar industry and they will tell you a huge portion of their staff was furloughed. My daughter is a server for a dinner theater. She hasn't worked in over 2 months even though the owner, who also owns a couple of other restaurants, received money to help cover his staff.

TL:DR...you might be shocked at the number of companies that took bail out money and still laid people off....oh, sorry, not laid off, furloughed which simply means they mightbe offered their job back later.

Not sticking up for Ramsey, I could give a rat a$$ less about him, I just think it silly when people pretend this hasn't happened here. Like it or not, we are the United States of Corporations.
 
2020-05-31 3:47:01 PM  

LucklessWonder: EdgeRunner: Bslim: Don't know how Ramsey is not considered a total joke. All I see written f his aboutvarious ventures is that they are either: closing, in bankruptcy proceedings, or in the middle of some f*cked-up labor dispute.

With a resume like that, he'd have a clear shot at the Presidency if he wasn't English.

I thought he was Scottish


He isn't crap, so...
 
2020-05-31 3:48:04 PM  

LucklessWonder: EdgeRunner: Bslim: Don't know how Ramsey is not considered a total joke. All I see written f his aboutvarious ventures is that they are either: closing, in bankruptcy proceedings, or in the middle of some f*cked-up labor dispute.

With a resume like that, he'd have a clear shot at the Presidency if he wasn't English.

I thought he was Scottish


Could be. I don't know much about him other than he's made a career of looking like a nightmare to work with.
 
2020-05-31 3:50:18 PM  

LucklessWonder: EdgeRunner: Bslim: Don't know how Ramsey is not considered a total joke. All I see written f his aboutvarious ventures is that they are either: closing, in bankruptcy proceedings, or in the middle of some f*cked-up labor dispute.

With a resume like that, he'd have a clear shot at the Presidency if he wasn't English.

I thought he was Scottish


When he's acting like an asshole, he's Scottish. When he's doing something laudable, he's British.
/old Andy Murray joke
 
2020-05-31 4:00:37 PM  

rosekolodny: Persnickety: Fark headline: Celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay goes above his usual dounchenozzle duty, uses taxpayer-funded wage furlough scheme to pay his axed staff their notice

TFA header: Gordon Ramsay fury as he 'uses furlough scheme to pay axed staff their notice'

TFA subheader: It has been claimed that TV chef Gordon Ramsay is using the taxpayer-funded furlough wage scheme to pay axed staff their notice.

First line of TFA: Gordon Ramsay is using the taxpayer-funded furlough wage scheme to pay axed staff their notice

I read that line so many times and I still don't know what it f*cking means.


Wiki - "In United Kingdom labour law, payment in lieu of notice, or PILON, is a payment made to employees by an employer for a notice period that they have been told by the employer that they do not have to work. Even employees dismissed for gross misconduct are entitled to be paid their notice period and any statutory leave they have accumulated."
 
2020-05-31 4:24:43 PM  
I was on an ep of the show where he saved restaurant/hotels.

As luck would have it we were the first table sat . Just after they left us Ramsey walked in & waited for the host. We got to meet & chat with him for a few minutes.

He came off as a nice guy who was thankful we were there.

We were filmed eating one of i guess an earlier dinner services.  My stuffed mushrooms were a touch underdone and the walleye was just overdone enough that the bread crumbs were a touch over.

But we were well treated & if i had felt better to begin with i would have had a much better time.

I'm on screen for like 1.9 seconds.  Lol
 
2020-05-31 4:35:12 PM  

lovely_filth: I was on an ep of the show where he saved restaurant/hotels.

As luck would have it we were the first table sat . Just after they left us Ramsey walked in & waited for the host. We got to meet & chat with him for a few minutes.

He came off as a nice guy who was thankful we were there.

We were filmed eating one of i guess an earlier dinner services.  My stuffed mushrooms were a touch underdone and the walleye was just overdone enough that the bread crumbs were a touch over.

But we were well treated & if i had felt better to begin with i would have had a much better time.

I'm on screen for like 1.9 seconds.  Lol


I guess that means you're entitled to another 14 minutes and 58.1 seconds of fame?
 
2020-05-31 4:42:39 PM  

lovely_filth: I was on an ep of the show where he saved restaurant/hotels.

As luck would have it we were the first table sat . Just after they left us Ramsey walked in & waited for the host. We got to meet & chat with him for a few minutes.

He came off as a nice guy who was thankful we were there.

We were filmed eating one of i guess an earlier dinner services.  My stuffed mushrooms were a touch underdone and the walleye was just overdone enough that the bread crumbs were a touch over.

But we were well treated & if i had felt better to begin with i would have had a much better time.

I'm on screen for like 1.9 seconds.  Lol


After seeing enough episodes where the "before" segment has a lot of roaches, rats, mold, etc, I'd farking run the fark out of there once I learned it was the "early" segment, not the reopen.
 
2020-05-31 5:31:03 PM  
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2020-05-31 8:46:34 PM  

Trocadero: lovely_filth: I was on an ep of the show where he saved restaurant/hotels.

As luck would have it we were the first table sat . Just after they left us Ramsey walked in & waited for the host. We got to meet & chat with him for a few minutes.

He came off as a nice guy who was thankful we were there.

We were filmed eating one of i guess an earlier dinner services.  My stuffed mushrooms were a touch underdone and the walleye was just overdone enough that the bread crumbs were a touch over.

But we were well treated & if i had felt better to begin with i would have had a much better time.

I'm on screen for like 1.9 seconds.  Lol

After seeing enough episodes where the "before" segment has a lot of roaches, rats, mold, etc, I'd farking run the fark out of there once I learned it was the "early" segment, not the reopen.


Si made sure we were OT going to be the first. For some reason I think we were dinner service 3 of 4.
 
2020-05-31 8:59:54 PM  

Susan'sLittleAdamsApple: Gordon Ramsay's daughter Tilly, 18, 'in talks' to star on Strictly Come Dancing

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Not sure what Come Dancing is but I will give it a watch, is it a PornHub Original?


Think Rainbird sprinklers
 
2020-05-31 9:44:36 PM  

Lochsteppe: I now regret naming my first two children Gordon and Ramsay.

Sorry, girls!


Change their names to Keith and Floyd
 
2020-05-31 10:06:39 PM  

slobberbone: Can we quit using "celebrity chef?" Yer one or the other.


Unless you're cooking celebrities.
 
2020-05-31 10:51:49 PM  

LucklessWonder: EdgeRunner: Bslim: Don't know how Ramsey is not considered a total joke. All I see written f his aboutvarious ventures is that they are either: closing, in bankruptcy proceedings, or in the middle of some f*cked-up labor dispute.

With a resume like that, he'd have a clear shot at the Presidency if he wasn't English.

I thought he was Scottish


He is.
 
2020-05-31 11:56:04 PM  
isthisme:

There's a lot to be considered though, with taking bailout money, and still laying people off.  Many businesses have no choice to close, and not operate, per state orders.  Many Michigan businesses are in that group.  They want to be open, but don't have a choice, and have to layoff their people.  However, those businesses still have expenses.  Even though they're not paying payroll, they're still paying benefits, and other expenses, like leases.  So, the bailouts are to keep the businesses from going bankrupt, while waiting to be able to open back up.  As for the workers, they're collecting unemployment, paid into accounts by their employer prior to the shut downs.  In Michigan, the unemployed are getting $600 per week on top of unemployment pay.  Which means unemployed are making more money being off work.  That last part is pissing off essential workers right now.

I'm going back to work in the morning, and my boss actually feels bad bringing me back, since it means I'll make less money.  I'm not bothered by going back, because eventually, I'll have to get back, and get things back on track.  No reason putting it off too long.

Bailouts are suppose to keep businesses from drowning in debt, and permanently closing.  Can you imagine if all the businesses suddenly collapsed?
 
2020-06-01 1:53:45 AM  
Chainsaw, rusted.
Gordon Ramsay, farked sideways.
 
2020-06-01 2:27:01 AM  
Can't stand that man. Never did like him.
Because he throws the f!#k word around on tv and yells a lot, does that make him interesting?
The only reason I even know that about him is because my daughter liked his show, and refusing to have more than one tv in my home, caused me to see more of it than I'd care to.
What restaurants does that turd stain even own? I want to know so I don't make the mistake of supporting his buggery butt.
 
2020-06-01 2:47:01 AM  
Hope all this ruins his career.
I could go forever without hearing about this asshole again.
 
2020-06-01 2:51:25 AM  
Not white knighting Ramsey, but I seriously doubt it's him making these decisions or even being involved at all in HR at his restaurants.
 
2020-06-01 10:09:45 AM  
Congress's rampant insider trading scheme pats Gordon on the head and nods approvingly.
 
2020-06-01 1:57:03 PM  
He is an embarrassing reminder of when 75% of American TV consisted of famously mediocre Brits being absolute twats.
 
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