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2020-05-31 1:27:48 AM  
So much for loyalty.
 
2020-05-31 1:40:38 AM  
Make it into a calendar. Might as well.
 
2020-05-31 1:42:41 AM  
They had articles? So that what was behind the stuck together pages. Lean something every day.
 
2020-05-31 1:44:03 AM  
Playboy really did have an amazing writing staff, both for its long-format interviews and at times for journalism and, in its editorial sections, presented articulate arguments for progressive social views. It was a shadow of itself by the end but Playboy's actual content was always a cut above most lifestyle publications, let alone the ones with uncovered nipples.
 
2020-05-31 1:57:38 AM  
I stopped subscribing about 16 years ago or so.. I was too broke to renew anything at the time.
 
2020-05-31 2:32:39 AM  
As someone who grew up hearing the joke "I only read it for the articles," Not too long ago I found an archive of the run of the magazine from up to like 2013. I like reading scans of old magazines on my tablet, so I thought I'd give it a try. Worst case I look at a few boobies, get bored, and delete them from my tablet.

From what I saw, the first couple decades had really good stuff. Sure there was the centerfolds and the obligatory topless photos, but there were some funny cartoons and really good articles. I was surprised that it was an actually interesting read. By the 80's it was mostly just ads for booze, cars, and cigarettes. The articles were OK but not anywhere near the quality of the previous decades. I tried a couple of issues from the 2000's and they were practically unreadable. So many ads and most of the "articles" just seemed like vapid celebrity gossip and "guess who was at the mansion this month!".
 
2020-05-31 3:37:31 AM  
How fallen are the mighty.
 
2020-05-31 5:21:41 AM  
Losing today's Playboy is no great loss. But man I really miss all those sci-fi short stories I discovered when I was younger.
 
2020-05-31 7:07:18 AM  
The two magazines that were close to what Playboy had was the writing in Maxim and Blender. But something changed and I don't know if it was age or new writers but overtime it was just wasn't the same. Not sure if all if them decided to  "change for the better" only to alienate their long time readers.
 
2020-05-31 7:17:04 AM  
So Playboy thinks they can get people to pay them to look at boobs on the internet?
 
2020-05-31 7:44:26 AM  
Even the Party Jokes?!?  Those bon mots are the only reason I'm invited to luncheons at the golf club!  I'm ruined.
 
2020-05-31 8:08:51 AM  
Read an article about magazine publishing about five years ago where someone stated the printed Playboy Magazine was really just a loss leader for the company. The real profit came from licensing the bunny logo to companies that produce novelty items such as cups and butane lighters.

If that was true then it seems that they just decided to reduce that loss to the most basic amount.
 
2020-05-31 8:16:32 AM  

Atomic Jonb: So Playboy thinks they can get people to pay them to look at boobs on the internet?


No, I don't think they really do very much.
 
2020-05-31 8:28:17 AM  

likefunbutnot: Playboy really did have an amazing writing staff, both for its long-format interviews and at times for journalism and, in its editorial sections, presented articulate arguments for progressive social views. It was a shadow of itself by the end but Playboy's actual content was always a cut above most lifestyle publications, let alone the ones with uncovered nipples.


Yeah but the male gaze and patriarchy...
 
2020-05-31 8:57:49 AM  

Atomic Jonb: So Playboy thinks they can get people to pay them to look at boobs on the internet?


I feel like the people who still had a subscription after the dawn of internet porn will. Or they go back to the box of porn in the woods.
 
2020-05-31 9:49:41 AM  
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.​c​om/news/amp/entertainment-arts-4142641​9

Eleven famous authors who wrote for Playboy. Yes, I really did read it for the articles.
 
2020-05-31 9:54:19 AM  

Strongbeerrules: So much for loyalty.


The idea that a company is loyal to their employees has almost always been bullshiat. In cases where it appears that way, it's usually because the workers fought hard for their right to be treated well.
 
2020-05-31 9:58:35 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: likefunbutnot: Playboy really did have an amazing writing staff, both for its long-format interviews and at times for journalism and, in its editorial sections, presented articulate arguments for progressive social views. It was a shadow of itself by the end but Playboy's actual content was always a cut above most lifestyle publications, let alone the ones with uncovered nipples.

Yeah but the male gaze and patriarchy...


I always find the concept of "the male gaze" funny, because it's also an insult to lesbians. Feminism is inherently contradictory when it comes to sexuality.
 
2020-05-31 10:21:09 AM  
So NOW where am I supposed to go with all my questions about men's fashion, oral sex and stereo equipment?
 
2020-05-31 11:07:23 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: Yeah but the male gaze and patriarchy...


Wanna know how I know you never read Playboy's Editorial section?

Playboy actually did articulate pro-feminist viewpoints. Perhaps not to the degree that name brand feminists of the mid-70s would accept, but ideas of equal rights and female empowerment were discussed openly and part of the wider set of social values that Playboy advocated, and which were certainly in line with what we'd now call Third Wave feminism by about 1990.
 
2020-05-31 11:15:43 AM  

captjc: As someone who grew up hearing the joke "I only read it for the articles," Not too long ago I found an archive of the run of the magazine from up to like 2013. I like reading scans of old magazines on my tablet, so I thought I'd give it a try. Worst case I look at a few boobies, get bored, and delete them from my tablet.

From what I saw, the first couple decades had really good stuff. Sure there was the centerfolds and the obligatory topless photos, but there were some funny cartoons and really good articles. I was surprised that it was an actually interesting read. By the 80's it was mostly just ads for booze, cars, and cigarettes. The articles were OK but not anywhere near the quality of the previous decades. I tried a couple of issues from the 2000's and they were practically unreadable. So many ads and most of the "articles" just seemed like vapid celebrity gossip and "guess who was at the mansion this month!".


Exactly then the took away the magazine's selling point, and left the articles which were as you said by then lack luster at best and the result was inevitable.
 
2020-05-31 11:50:18 AM  

Gumball T Watterson: Read an article about magazine publishing about five years ago where someone stated the printed Playboy Magazine was really just a loss leader for the company. The real profit came from licensing the bunny logo to companies that produce novelty items such as cups and butane lighters.

If that was true then it seems that they just decided to reduce that loss to the most basic amount.


And eventually the logo will be irrelevant and that money will disappear, as well.
 
2020-05-31 11:58:31 AM  
Playboy is the K-Mart of porn
 
2020-05-31 12:08:40 PM  
I remember after finding a couple of dad's playboys and dad saying " got it for the articles, son". Next time i looked they were gone...
 
2020-05-31 12:45:54 PM  

Alphax: I stopped subscribing about 16 years ago or so.. I was too broke to renew anything at the time.


What broke?
 
2020-05-31 1:10:19 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: The Googles Do Nothing: likefunbutnot: Playboy really did have an amazing writing staff, both for its long-format interviews and at times for journalism and, in its editorial sections, presented articulate arguments for progressive social views. It was a shadow of itself by the end but Playboy's actual content was always a cut above most lifestyle publications, let alone the ones with uncovered nipples.

Yeah but the male gaze and patriarchy...

I always find the concept of "the male gaze" funny, because it's also an insult to lesbians. Feminism is inherently contradictory when it comes to sexuality.


Reading "On Our Backs" a by-and-for lesbians skin-magazine, lesbians are looking at very different stuff; 'male-gaze' is a thing.
 
2020-05-31 1:12:16 PM  
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2020-05-31 1:16:03 PM  
Not gonna lie, I looked at the boobies first, but lots of big name authors wrote for Playboy, e.g. Ray Bradbury and Kurt Vonnegut.
 
2020-05-31 2:15:56 PM  

thesharkman: The two magazines that were close to what Playboy had was the writing in Maxim and Blender. But something changed and I don't know if it was age or new writers but overtime it was just wasn't the same. Not sure if all if them decided to  "change for the better" only to alienate their long time readers.


I loved Maxim when it came out. Didn't seem like that long when the quality started taking a dive. But I highly enjoyed the magazine for those first 2 or 3 years.
 
2020-05-31 2:30:19 PM  

lindalouwho: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.​c​om/news/amp/entertainment-arts-4142641​9

Eleven famous authors who wrote for Playboy. Yes, I really did read it for the articles.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2_bL​E​qmBi0
 
2020-05-31 4:26:43 PM  

lindalouwho: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.​c​om/news/amp/entertainment-arts-4142641​9

Eleven famous authors who wrote for Playboy. Yes, I really did read it for the articles.


I strongly suspect that authors liked selling to Playboy so much was not only did they pay top dollar, but you could sell it again because "nobody" read it the first time.
 
2020-05-31 5:32:10 PM  
I read it for the articles.

I looked at it for the naked women, of course.
 
2020-05-31 6:22:33 PM  
Playboy has been in a downward spiral since the mid to late '80s when they stopped being available in every local convenience store. In the '70s you could buy Playboy basically anywhere. They got pushed out by Maxim and Stuff and similar "Lads" magazines that were sexy but had no nudity and had shorter, lighter weight articles. Eventually you had to go to a real bookstore like Barnes and Noble to get a copy.

Then of course internet porn pulled the rug out of their nude picture draw. And I feel like their online presence has been pretty weak.
 
2020-05-31 6:39:16 PM  
I feel if you're headed that direction, you might as well go straight for hustler. No airs of pretension, fewer articles, and it doesn't try to put up a facade of class...
 
2020-05-31 7:00:33 PM  

likefunbutnot: The Googles Do Nothing: Yeah but the male gaze and patriarchy...

Wanna know how I know you never read Playboy's Editorial section?

Playboy actually did articulate pro-feminist viewpoints. Perhaps not to the degree that name brand feminists of the mid-70s would accept, but ideas of equal rights and female empowerment were discussed openly and part of the wider set of social values that Playboy advocated, and which were certainly in line with what we'd now call Third Wave feminism by about 1990.


You sound like fun but not.
 
2020-05-31 8:51:01 PM  

thesharkman: . But something changed


new writers are cheap
 
2020-05-31 9:23:45 PM  
As long as I can get Swank and Stag at 7-11 I'm good.
 
2020-05-31 10:37:29 PM  

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2020-05-31 11:48:39 PM  
I read Playboy for the cartoons first, the articles rarely and the centerfolds not at all. Some of the great cartoonists worked for skin magazines because there were no mainstream publishers paying cartonists. Gahan Wilson? Remember him? Except for The New Yorker and the pablum published in "family" magazines, there's precious little market for genius or intelligent social and political commentary except on the web nowadays.
 
2020-05-31 11:58:43 PM  
I've told this before, shorter version:

Early 70's. We take a family vacation trip to visit and stay with my Aunt and Uncle in Denver. Maybe they weren't "swingers", at least while we were in town, but they were wealthy, young and good-looking and pretty open about enjoying sex. Uncle could be seen grabbing Auntie's ass any time, and be heard telling off-color jokes. They snogged constantly in front of us kids.

Auntie dressed like Mrs. Roper in weird caftans and the like, but looked like Suzanne Pleschette. Me, I'm around 11. Auntie thinks my repressed parents (true) haven't told me about sex and stuff (false), decides she's going to "fix me" unilaterally by filling in what my repressed mom and dad obviously had not taught... While the rest of my family is sleeping or out on some errand, she shows me to the basement, where it turns out, Uncle keeps knee-high stacks and stacks of Playboys, going back years, the smut mag equivalent of the warehouse scene of the first Indiana Jones movie... the pornographic version of the Ark of the Covenant may be back there somewhere...

Auntie tells me: "Help yourself, check it out as long as you like, ...come find me afterwards, if you have questions..."

She's not a predator or anything like that; she's just decided she's going to defy my mom and "educate" me about reproduction and sex before I get too old.  Though I'd already gotten the basic info down, along with the standard fear and guilt indoctrinations. She goes back up the stairs and closes the door. I'm alone under a bare 100-watt bulb with three college dorm's worth of skin mags.

So I start thumbing thru them. I'm 11 after all.

Four hours later, I come up the steps, go wash my hands in the kitchen sink, and start making a sandwich. Auntie has been waiting apparently all this time at the kitchen table; watching me expectantly, she puts down her copy of Xaviera Hollanders's "The Happy Hooker", (she left that and a few others in the living room, I'd read them all by the end of the week) and asks me:

"So..... um... got any questions I can answer?"

"Yes."
I say.

"Do you have any more Vonnegut stuff around the house? Or Clarke or Asimov?"

I'd seen the nudes of course.  But after that initial thrill of pawing thru a few hundred of those airbrushed fembots, it was the guest essays by Vonnegut and the others that I pored thru, because I was already a big sci fi nerd then.

I really did "read it for the articles".


Back home I was suddenly the big sexual trivia source at the schoolyard for a short time, having  also read the Playboy Advisor columns and letters sections. Had to set a few of my peers straight on some things, but because of how nerdy and virgin-like I looked, they didn't believe me until they could confirm my data much later.
 
2020-06-01 7:40:46 AM  

hundreddollarman: Playboy is the K-Mart of porn


Woolworth's
 
2020-06-01 8:12:46 AM  

Fano: hundreddollarman: Playboy is the K-Mart of porn

Woolworth's


Woolies still exist in Australia
 
2020-06-01 8:52:02 AM  

Nurglitch: Tyrone Slothrop: The Googles Do Nothing: likefunbutnot: Playboy really did have an amazing writing staff, both for its long-format interviews and at times for journalism and, in its editorial sections, presented articulate arguments for progressive social views. It was a shadow of itself by the end but Playboy's actual content was always a cut above most lifestyle publications, let alone the ones with uncovered nipples.

Yeah but the male gaze and patriarchy...

I always find the concept of "the male gaze" funny, because it's also an insult to lesbians. Feminism is inherently contradictory when it comes to sexuality.

Reading "On Our Backs" a by-and-for lesbians skin-magazine, lesbians are looking at very different stuff; 'male-gaze' is a thing.


So all lesbians are the same? How misogynist of you.
 
2020-06-01 8:52:23 AM  

Tsar_Bomba1: As long as I can get Swank and Stag at 7-11 I'm good.


I was always more of a Knave man, myself
 
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