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(Yahoo)   Former NFL Executive: Colin Kaepernick was forced out of the league for his protests   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line
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2020-05-30 7:51:16 PM  
NO! Really?
 
2020-05-30 7:54:14 PM  
I'm shocked! Well, not that shocked.
 
2020-05-30 8:00:34 PM  
This should help the NFL return this fall.
 
2020-05-30 8:03:34 PM  
And here I thought it was solely because he wasn't a better QB than...checks notes...Devlin Hodges and Nathan Peterman.
 
2020-05-30 8:44:23 PM  
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2020-05-30 8:54:15 PM  
This just in - Water is wet!
 
2020-05-30 9:03:07 PM  
He got a raw deal. It was getting traction with other players, even before Trump opened his mouth and Pence wasted over a quarter of a million of our dollars to walk out of a game, IIRC.
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Malcolm Jenkins was compelling, (though I wish his timing of pulling cards was faster just for more impact).
Malcolm Jenkins holds up signs instead of speaking to media
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2020-05-30 9:15:52 PM  
If the fans hate your players, they stay away and you lose money.

Also, he was originally benched because he could no longer win games.
 
2020-05-30 9:26:47 PM  

LordZorch: If the fans hate your players, they stay away and you lose money.

Also, he was originally benched because he could no longer win games.


The coach was also fired because he could not win games.
 
2020-05-30 9:51:13 PM  
Meanwhile, owners lead by example and are never political
 
2020-05-30 10:42:32 PM  
Yeah.....

But he got that killer Nike deal.
 
2020-05-30 10:45:35 PM  

AsparagusFTW: Yeah.....

But he got that killer Nike deal.


I'm sure the children who make sneakers are proud of him.
 
2020-05-30 10:51:11 PM  
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2020-05-30 10:56:25 PM  
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2020-05-30 10:57:33 PM  
He wasn't good enough to overcome the media attention his protests brought.  Other players still get work even for committing violent crimes, but they're good enough for the owners to turn a blind eye to the bad PR.
 
2020-05-30 11:05:23 PM  

Summoner101: He wasn't good enough to overcome the media attention his protests brought.  Other players still get work even for committing violent crimes, but they're good enough for the owners to turn a blind eye to the bad PR.


Yeah, but they're only beating on women, so the owners don't care.
/and a not-small fraction of the fans, too
 
2020-05-30 11:08:16 PM  

LordZorch: If the fans hate your players, they stay away and you lose money.

Also, he was originally benched because he could no longer win games.


Right. Every single NFL player must be universally beloved. Which is why they kicked out all of the cheaters, headhunters, wife beaters, rapists and dog killers.
 
2020-05-30 11:24:09 PM  
Kap was blackballed because the owners were afraid of Trump's bully pulpit.
(Trump, of course, completely twisted his message into something it wasn't.)

All you have to do is look at the quality of QBs signed during QB-geddon.
 
2020-05-30 11:29:32 PM  

ScrimBoy: He got a raw deal. It was getting traction with other players, even before Trump opened his mouth and Pence wasted over a quarter of a million of our dollars to walk out of a game, IIRC.
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Malcolm Jenkins was compelling, (though I wish his timing of pulling cards was faster just for more impact).
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/N0p4ubAY​s3w]


And then Jenkins and Anquan Boldin formed the Players' Coalition to fight for social change...which...wait for it...

...the 49ers just donated a million dollars to.
 
2020-05-30 11:48:26 PM  

Trainspotr: LordZorch: If the fans hate your players, they stay away and you lose money.

Also, he was originally benched because he could no longer win games.

Right. Every single NFL player must be universally beloved. Which is why they kicked out all of the cheaters, headhunters, wife beaters, rapists and dog killers.


You forgot Leonard Little.
 
2020-05-30 11:51:35 PM  

Trocadero: Summoner101: He wasn't good enough to overcome the media attention his protests brought.  Other players still get work even for committing violent crimes, but they're good enough for the owners to turn a blind eye to the bad PR.

Yeah, but they're only beating on women, so the owners don't care.
/and a not-small fraction of the fans, too


Right.  The owners don't care about principles.  They care about money.
 
2020-05-31 1:08:40 AM  
If each team came to that conclusion independently, that shines a light on something very ugly about America. If the owners got together and blackballed CK, that's a huge lawsuit against the NFL.
 
2020-05-31 1:19:20 AM  

Dear Jerk: If each team came to that conclusion independently, that shines a light on something very ugly about America. If the owners got together and blackballed CK, that's a huge lawsuit against the NFL.


The team owners are so much alike in mindset, they didn't need to get together to decide to blackball Kap; it was just the obvious move.  So, that says something very ugly about the ruling class in America - they lust after money and they're racist AF.
 
2020-05-31 1:48:30 AM  
When a team signed a former Arena Football QB while Kap was available, you knew the fix was in.  Obvious tag is obvious.
 
2020-05-31 2:04:26 AM  

JJRRutgers: When a team signed a former Arena Football QB while Kap was available, you knew the fix was in.  Obvious tag is obvious.


I knew it when the Dolphins brought Jay Cutler out of retirement during the first offseason when Kaep was looking for a job.

In other words, "No fecal matter, Mr. Holmes!"
 
2020-05-31 7:17:10 AM  
When it comes to Colin Kaepernick, I'm deeply concerned about child labor. The rest of the time I'm not.
 
2020-05-31 7:44:57 AM  
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2020-05-31 8:02:43 AM  
Ric Romero was an NFL exec?
 
2020-05-31 8:42:14 AM  
Nonononono!  This can't be possible!  So many well-intentioned people who had no ulterior motives whatever spent enormous efforts to insist on a litany of reasons for why it was everything other than his protests.  I believed them because who would spend that much effort were their intentions anything other than truthfully-motivated.

/no I didn't
 
2020-05-31 9:33:57 AM  

Summoner101: The owners don't care about principles.  They care about money.


Unprincipled billionaires? What's this world coming to?
 
2020-05-31 9:43:38 AM  

Dear Jerk: If each team came to that conclusion independently, that shines a light on something very ugly about America.


Not really.

For an professional athlete in a team sport, the team weighs ability vs headache. When the team think the rate of return doesn't justify the headache they cut the guy loose. Doesn't matter if it's because of criminal issues, bad attitude, or PR problems. You think guys like Randy Moss or Terrell Owens would have stuck around the league as long as they did if they weren't outstanding receivers? They weren't even criminals, just headcases. Would Vick have gotten another shot after the dog fighting if he was a backup instead of record-setting?

Hell, look at UFC. They would have dumped Jon Jones a long time ago if he wasn't an amazing fighter who puts asses in the seats.
 
2020-05-31 10:05:12 AM  

IlGreven: ScrimBoy: He got a raw deal. It was getting traction with other players, even before Trump opened his mouth and Pence wasted over a quarter of a million of our dollars to walk out of a game, IIRC.
.
Malcolm Jenkins was compelling, (though I wish his timing of pulling cards was faster just for more impact).
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/N0p4ubAY​s3w]

And then Jenkins and Anquan Boldin formed the Players' Coalition to fight for social change...which...wait for it...

...the 49ers just donated a million dollars to.


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2020-05-31 10:25:53 AM  

Permanent Solutions For Permanent Problems: Dear Jerk: If each team came to that conclusion independently, that shines a light on something very ugly about America.

Not really.

For an professional athlete in a team sport, the team weighs ability vs headache. When the team think the rate of return doesn't justify the headache they cut the guy loose. Doesn't matter if it's because of criminal issues, bad attitude, or PR problems. You think guys like Randy Moss or Terrell Owens would have stuck around the league as long as they did if they weren't outstanding receivers? They weren't even criminals, just headcases. Would Vick have gotten another shot after the dog fighting if he was a backup instead of record-setting?

Hell, look at UFC. They would have dumped Jon Jones a long time ago if he wasn't an amazing fighter who puts asses in the seats.


At the least, it says a lot of very ugly things about the fanbase, or at least the perception by executives of the fanbase.
 
2020-05-31 10:27:21 AM  
Which, to follow up the above, is probably an even more dispiriting revelation than were it just about the owners/executives.
 
2020-05-31 10:38:15 AM  
Man, so many arguments here on fark where I tried to explain that Kaepernick playing poorly on a team that had no o-line, receivers, play calling, or coaching wasn't proof that he can't play.
 
2020-05-31 10:44:16 AM  

IlGreven: ScrimBoy: He got a raw deal. It was getting traction with other players, even before Trump opened his mouth and Pence wasted over a quarter of a million of our dollars to walk out of a game, IIRC.
.
Malcolm Jenkins was compelling, (though I wish his timing of pulling cards was faster just for more impact).
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/N0p4ubAY​s3w]

And then Jenkins and Anquan Boldin formed the Players' Coalition to fight for social change...which...wait for it...

...the 49ers just donated a million dollars to.


Which is great, but a bit late.
 
2020-05-31 11:01:00 AM  

UNC_Samurai: IlGreven: ScrimBoy: He got a raw deal. It was getting traction with other players, even before Trump opened his mouth and Pence wasted over a quarter of a million of our dollars to walk out of a game, IIRC.
.
Malcolm Jenkins was compelling, (though I wish his timing of pulling cards was faster just for more impact).
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/N0p4ubAY​s3w]

And then Jenkins and Anquan Boldin formed the Players' Coalition to fight for social change...which...wait for it...

...the 49ers just donated a million dollars to.

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To be fair, that donation was a lot cheaper than Kaep's salary (and possibly tax deductible). And spending less money to pretend to care is all we really wanted, right?
 
2020-05-31 11:11:40 AM  
No surprise at all, the owners were scared shiatless trump would come at the NFL they did not boot Kaep and as he was somewhat of a headache ( not any worse than any other)  they booted them to appease trump. Then cleared colluded to keep him out.   Why you ask?   To protect the league, if he had returned to any team and been successful it would have shown the truth about the NFL's intentions so best to black ball him and push a false narrative or let one run.   To be fair a few teams gave him a half hearted look though never intended to sign him.  Then there was that farce of a work out scam the NFL tried to pull.
 
2020-05-31 11:23:03 AM  
There's a whole bunch of Farkers around here who spent way too much time whitesplaining how his talent was the real issue.  Just fark you guys.
 
2020-05-31 11:36:06 AM  

edmo: There's a whole bunch of Farkers around here who spent way too much time whitesplaining how his talent was the real issue.  Just fark you guys.


There are people in this very thread who are insisting it's because he wasn't a good player.
 
2020-05-31 11:56:43 AM  

Slackfumasta: edmo: There's a whole bunch of Farkers around here who spent way too much time whitesplaining how his talent was the real issue.  Just fark you guys.

There are people in this very thread who are insisting it's because he wasn't a good player.


It's unusually light in this thread.  I'm guessing the fine defenders of the status quo (or at least their status quo) and their allies of convenience in Saint Petersburg are spread too thin to get tied up on this one.
 
2020-05-31 11:56:59 AM  
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2020-05-31 12:03:23 PM  

JJRRutgers: When a team signed a former Arena Football QB while Kap was available, you knew the fix was in.  Obvious tag is obvious.


A former Arena Football guy might've been OK; some of those guys are (well, were, now that the AFL is dead) legit and could be solid backups in the NFL.

They signed a guy from a level BELOW the AFL.

Who had the third-best passer rating of the three QBs used by a mediocre CIFL team.
 
2020-05-31 12:08:22 PM  
Oh, and I once went to a CIFL game, where that dude came from, 'cause my former GM in the AFL was running a CIFL team and was in town.

1) Not only were the players noticeably MUCH worse (they earned $200/game vs. the AFL's $1000+, which is still not great, but it's at least livable), but...
2) the halftime show was dog tricks (and the dog sh*t on the field) followed by oiled midget wrestling.

And the guy the NFL team signed was the third-best QB on a mediocre team in THAT league.
 
2020-05-31 12:11:38 PM  

IAmRight: Oh, and I once went to a CIFL game, where that dude came from, 'cause my former GM in the AFL was running a CIFL team and was in town.

1) Not only were the players noticeably MUCH worse (they earned $200/game vs. the AFL's $1000+, which is still not great, but it's at least livable), but...
2) the halftime show was dog tricks (and the dog sh*t on the field) followed by oiled midget wrestling.

And the guy the NFL team signed was the third-best QB on a mediocre team in THAT league.


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2020-05-31 12:57:10 PM  

Permanent Solutions For Permanent Problems: Dear Jerk: If each team came to that conclusion independently, that shines a light on something very ugly about America.

Not really.

For an professional athlete in a team sport, the team weighs ability vs headache. When the team think the rate of return doesn't justify the headache they cut the guy loose. Doesn't matter if it's because of criminal issues, bad attitude, or PR problems. You think guys like Randy Moss or Terrell Owens would have stuck around the league as long as they did if they weren't outstanding receivers? They weren't even criminals, just headcases. Would Vick have gotten another shot after the dog fighting if he was a backup instead of record-setting?


It's like that in any profession but people think that football should be different.
 
2020-05-31 1:02:34 PM  
And?   If i brought a "Save the Whales" sign to my job, i'd be fired too. 
Do it on your own time.
 
2020-05-31 1:09:54 PM  
I live in SF and someone sent me a Kaep jersey for the SB this year. It has a pic of him kneeling on it. I'm a bucs fan. I'll be wearing it a bunch.


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2020-05-31 1:18:44 PM  

Dafatone: Man, so many arguments here on fark where I tried to explain that Kaepernick playing poorly on a team that had no o-line, receivers, play calling, or coaching wasn't proof that he can't play.


Yeah, that was the narrative in Nashville when it was obvious that Jake Locker wasn't all that, too.
 
2020-05-31 1:23:38 PM  

Lance Russell's Nose: Dafatone: Man, so many arguments here on fark where I tried to explain that Kaepernick playing poorly on a team that had no o-line, receivers, play calling, or coaching wasn't proof that he can't play.

Yeah, that was the narrative in Nashville when it was obvious that Jake Locker wasn't all that, too.


And Vince Young.
 
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