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(Washington Post)   Yes, the lockdown and quarantine sucks, now imagine doing it without the internet like millions of your fellow Americans have had to do   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2020-05-30 4:24:01 PM  
Some of us are old enough to remember that.  Thank god for The Price is Right.
 
2020-05-30 4:46:14 PM  
These poor bastards don't even have woods porn since print is dead.
 
2020-05-30 4:49:13 PM  
A couple months ago we lost our cable-based internet for about three hours.  Those were a long three hours.

But correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the american ISPs already get big buckets of money as part of a deal where they promised to use it to correct these infrastructure-lacking regions in the areas they're talking about here?

Maybe Ajit Pai can forget he's so openly tied to the ass of his employer Verizon and do his job for a change.  I mean the real job's description, not the job he was given by his corporate master.

Fark you Ajit Pai.

I'm sorry guys I just can't help but say that when I think about his name.  Fark you Ajit Pai!

Sorry again.
 
2020-05-30 4:58:17 PM  
Me and my family would all be dead from some kind of murder-suicide event.

/or we would just play a lot of board games, read and build cool shiat with LEGO.  Or more than we do now.
 
2020-05-30 5:11:24 PM  
That's what books are for. They still work.
 
2020-05-30 5:16:13 PM  
Probably get a lot more reading done.

I mean, of books rather than web forums.
 
2020-05-30 5:18:02 PM  
We used to read books.

Lots and lots of books.
 
2020-05-30 5:38:57 PM  
Imagine weathering this without Internet. Many are - and Congress should help.

While congress is at it they could maybe imagine weathering this without health care.
 
2020-05-30 6:07:20 PM  
I'd have been Ok, until my glasses broke
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2020-05-30 6:22:48 PM  
Broadband should be treated like highways: everywhere in the country should have access to one, and private industry will never be up to the task.
 
2020-05-30 6:47:59 PM  

Fear the Clam: That's what books are for. They still work.


This this this.
 
2020-05-30 6:50:03 PM  

Mollari: I'd have been Ok, until my glasses broke
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I almost cried watching that episode.

/ wears glasses
// strong glasses
 
2020-05-30 7:01:26 PM  
We need to nationalize the ISPs.  Instead of sending in the national guard to stop the razing of the cities, send them to the ISPs and give the "owners" a single chance to sign over the infrastructure to the federal government, free of charge.  If they do not comply, declare the "owners" as looters and have them shot.  "He was coming right at me, I felt my life was in danger.  It was a clean kill".
 
2020-05-30 7:02:37 PM  

lindalouwho: Mollari: I'd have been Ok, until my glasses broke
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I almost cried watching that episode.

/ wears glasses
// strong glasses


Like every magnifying glass in the world disappeared
 
2020-05-30 7:04:02 PM  
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2020-05-30 7:04:47 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: We used to read books.

Lots and lots of books.


Yep.  One time my dad complained that I spent all of my money on books.  I was 14 at the time and working part time.  I asked him if he wanted me to spend it on drugs instead.  He shut up.

\however, moving with that number of books is a daunting proposition
\\still have to go through another 1K in the attic
 
2020-05-30 7:07:10 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: We need to nationalize the ISPs.  Instead of sending in the national guard to stop the razing of the cities, send them to the ISPs and give the "owners" a single chance to sign over the infrastructure to the federal government, free of charge.  If they do not comply, declare the "owners" as looters and have them shot.  "He was coming right at me, I felt my life was in danger.  It was a clean kill".


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https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/wor​l​d/south-africa-votes-to-confiscate-whi​te-owned-land/
 
2020-05-30 7:39:23 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: lindalouwho: Mollari: I'd have been Ok, until my glasses broke
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I almost cried watching that episode.

/ wears glasses
// strong glasses

Like every magnifying glass in the world disappeared


That would equal a pretty bad headache in about half an hour, it's not the same at all.
 
2020-05-30 8:24:27 PM  
man, back then people had to imagine whatever it was they were masturbating about.
 
2020-05-30 8:27:45 PM  

Mentat: Some of us are old enough to remember that.  Thank god for The Price is Right.


Lets Make a Deal, those poor people are forced to wear costumes as they act like --

/whatever
//wayne Brady > Drew Whatshisface
 
2020-05-30 8:42:51 PM  
Is it REALLY that difficult to discover masturbation!?
 
2020-05-30 8:51:50 PM  
My brother lives out in the boondocks with no Internet.  Still, being in the boondocks, he can go fishing every day.  I'm not sure he's the disadvantaged one.
 
2020-05-30 8:53:06 PM  

lindalouwho: Mollari: I'd have been Ok, until my glasses broke
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I almost cried watching that episode.

/ wears glasses
// strong glasses


Last Man on Earth
Youtube zKgjahj-3qg
 
2020-05-30 9:22:40 PM  

Fear the Clam: That's what books are for. They still work.



I'm not a fan of these kinds of statements because the presuppose that people have books around and/or ready access to whatever gets them books. If they didn't or they relied on the library, guess what: they are SOL.

Internet at this point is a utility that we have built a huge chunk of our economy  (10% of GDP per this: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-us​a​-internet-economy/internet-sector-cont​ributes-2-1-trillion-to-u-s-economy-in​dustry-group-idUSKBN1WB2QB). Contrast that with electricity by fossil fuel which contributes ~6% (https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc​e/​article/pii/S0160412012000542)

We need the same kind of access to the internet that we do to electricity.
 
2020-05-30 9:25:50 PM  
Isnt this one of the problems that Starlink is supposed to solve?
 
2020-05-30 9:29:49 PM  

bearded clamorer: lindalouwho: Mollari: I'd have been Ok, until my glasses broke
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I almost cried watching that episode.

/ wears glasses
// strong glasses

[YouTube video: Last Man on Earth]


Yikes, that'll give me nightmares. I was the kid reading books under the covers with a flashlight when I was supposed to be sleeping. I learned to save my allowance for when the batteries wore out so that I wouldn't be found out.
 
2020-05-30 9:31:18 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Isnt this one of the problems that Starlink is supposed to solve?


Yes.
https://www.starlink.com/
 
2020-05-30 9:41:06 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: We need to nationalize the ISPs.  Instead of sending in the national guard to stop the razing of the cities, send them to the ISPs and give the "owners" a single chance to sign over the infrastructure to the federal government, free of charge.  If they do not comply, declare the "owners" as looters and have them shot.  "He was coming right at me, I felt my life was in danger.  It was a clean kill".


The UK has a fairly good system. When they broke up the old monopoly (state owned) phone company back in the eighties they didn't split it up by area, they split the network from the consumer side, and then let other companies start consumer phone companies and the network side by law had to let all of them use the network on equal terms to the phone company consumer biz. When the internet took off the same principle carried over.

The result is I have over a hundred ISP and phone companies to choose from, from huge corporate owned ones to tiny independents, all competing on price, service, caps etc. I could literally start an ISP tomorrow and be able to serve the entire country and be competitive on price and speeds.

The network side upgrades the network for everyone, with FTTC (fibre to the cabinet, the box that serves a neighbourhood, with the last few hundred feet using the old copper cable) pretty much standard and FTTP (fibre to the property) being expanded. FTTC gives 30-50mbps depending on how far you are from the cabinet. Cities often have cable companies like Virgin laying their own fibre and offering faster speeds. There are still isolated places out in the middle of nowhere that lack decent coverage.
 
2020-05-30 11:23:36 PM  

Fear the Clam: That's what books are for. They still work.


Books don't connect people to family and friends, and they don't keep kids in online classes or adults able to keep their jobs because they can work from home.

Everyone who volunteers "books" should also volunteer to give their internet up.
 
2020-05-30 11:26:06 PM  

Mouser: My brother lives out in the boondocks with no Internet.  Still, being in the boondocks, he can go fishing every day.  I'm not sure he's the disadvantaged one.


If you actually thought that, you would have moved there by now.
 
2020-05-31 12:05:55 AM  

BumpInTheNight: A couple months ago we lost our cable-based internet for about three hours.  Those were a long three hours.


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2020-05-31 3:28:04 AM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: The UK has a fairly good system. When they broke up the old monopoly (state owned) phone company back in the eighties they didn't split it up by area, they split the network from the consumer side, and then let other companies start consumer phone companies and the network side by law had to let all of them use the network on equal terms to the phone company consumer biz. When the internet took off the same principle carried over.


Open access rules would do much the same.  One company owns the cable, multiple companies can act as a POP to the Internet.
 
2020-05-31 3:34:00 AM  

BumpInTheNight: A couple months ago we lost our cable-based internet for about three hours. Those were a long three hours.


Do you have a mobile phone with a data plan?  If so, there is a good chance that you can tether or create a hotspot using them.  It won't be as fast, but it is better than nothing.
 
2020-05-31 7:48:54 AM  

KB202: Fear the Clam: That's what books are for. They still work.

Books don't connect people to family and friends, and they don't keep kids in online classes or adults able to keep their jobs because they can work from home.

Everyone who volunteers "books" should also volunteer to give their internet up.


We can tell you don't read books, because if you did you would know that family and friends exchange books, and discuss them. Or when kids are little or grandma is in a nursing home, read to them.
 
2020-05-31 9:56:11 AM  

Dinjiin: BumpInTheNight: A couple months ago we lost our cable-based internet for about three hours. Those were a long three hours.

Do you have a mobile phone with a data plan?  If so, there is a good chance that you can tether or create a hotspot using them.  It won't be as fast, but it is better than nothing.


We did yah and that's how I was able to keep tabs on the ISP's progress with the repair, but our phone plans are both ultra-cheap because we use them so infrequently so I didn't want to completely burn through the bandwidth we'd bought for them with our regular desktop usage etc.

I'd used tethering a couple times while traveling with a laptop because the local hotel/resort wifi was such garbage that my phone service was more reliable.
 
2020-05-31 6:48:52 PM  

lindalouwho: KB202: Fear the Clam: That's what books are for. They still work.

Books don't connect people to family and friends, and they don't keep kids in online classes or adults able to keep their jobs because they can work from home.

Everyone who volunteers "books" should also volunteer to give their internet up.

We can tell you don't read books, because if you did you would know that family and friends exchange books, and discuss them. Or when kids are little or grandma is in a nursing home, read to them.


I can tell you have privilege because you assume people can share books to begin with, that they have them in their home and not have to borrow them from library. I also can tell because you assume that they have friends and family who also have books they can share. You also assume that they can "visit grandma" in a nursing home via some safe way of transport during a pandemic when they may not even own a car.

Just because you have access to things doesn't mean other people do.

I am surrounded by books, thankfully. I readily share them.  I've known a lot of people who's only access to any books was through a library. Guess what else is closed down during a pandemic?
 
2020-05-31 8:27:14 PM  

RyansPrivates: lindalouwho: KB202: Fear the Clam: That's what books are for. They still work.

Books don't connect people to family and friends, and they don't keep kids in online classes or adults able to keep their jobs because they can work from home.

Everyone who volunteers "books" should also volunteer to give their internet up.

We can tell you don't read books, because if you did you would know that family and friends exchange books, and discuss them. Or when kids are little or grandma is in a nursing home, read to them.

I can tell you have privilege because you assume people can share books to begin with, that they have them in their home and not have to borrow them from library. I also can tell because you assume that they have friends and family who also have books they can share. You also assume that they can "visit grandma" in a nursing home via some safe way of transport during a pandemic when they may not even own a car.

Just because you have access to things doesn't mean other people do.

I am surrounded by books, thankfully. I readily share them.  I've known a lot of people who's only access to any books was through a library. Guess what else is closed down during a pandemic?


?? I use the library quite often. It's been closed though during the lockdown.
No one is allowed to visit people in nursing homes, and a lot of hospitals won't let most visitors in. I know this up close and personal, because my mom died in one April 15th. It was a month before that the last time we could visit.
When you're assuming something about someone else, well, just try not to, asking is better.
 
2020-05-31 8:47:45 PM  

lindalouwho: RyansPrivates: lindalouwho: KB202: Fear the Clam: That's what books are for. They still work.

Books don't connect people to family and friends, and they don't keep kids in online classes or adults able to keep their jobs because they can work from home.

Everyone who volunteers "books" should also volunteer to give their internet up.

We can tell you don't read books, because if you did you would know that family and friends exchange books, and discuss them. Or when kids are little or grandma is in a nursing home, read to them.

I can tell you have privilege because you assume people can share books to begin with, that they have them in their home and not have to borrow them from library. I also can tell because you assume that they have friends and family who also have books they can share. You also assume that they can "visit grandma" in a nursing home via some safe way of transport during a pandemic when they may not even own a car.

Just because you have access to things doesn't mean other people do.

I am surrounded by books, thankfully. I readily share them.  I've known a lot of people who's only access to any books was through a library. Guess what else is closed down during a pandemic?

?? I use the library quite often. It's been closed though during the lockdown.
No one is allowed to visit people in nursing homes, and a lot of hospitals won't let most visitors in. I know this up close and personal, because my mom died in one April 15th. It was a month before that the last time we could visit.
When you're assuming something about someone else, well, just try not to, asking is better.


First of all I am sorry for your loss.

Second of all responding to your judgement that someone didn't' read books because they said books (rightly for many people) said books aren't social activity.  I pointed out that your assumption of sharing books with friend s and family is a statement of privilege that you implied you are able to do in the midst of a pandemic.

Many, many people don't have books or friends and family that have books to share (nor access to libraries). To assume that others have those same things is assuming a privilege they may not have. Owning and/or having ready access to books is a privilege, especially in the midst of a lockdown.

I love books and read every day. If I didn't have internet I would be fine.  Many people who don't have internet also don't have a way to get books during this pandemic, so assuming they did is wrong.
 
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