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(Wikipedia)   On this date in 1453, a beautiful civilization fell   (en.m.wikipedia.org) divider line
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2020-05-29 5:20:11 PM  
Sadly were not to far from that here in the USA due to Trump and the wimpy GOP!
 
2020-05-29 5:23:57 PM  
I recommend watching the Netflix docudrama about this.  It was really good, true to history, and enough sex and violence to add authenticity.
 
2020-05-29 5:26:24 PM  
Was Istanbul okay?
 
2020-05-29 5:32:42 PM  
THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS "Istanbul (Not Constantinople)"
Youtube vsQrKZcYtqg
 
2020-05-29 5:43:45 PM  

enry: Was Istanbul okay?


That's nobody's business but the Turks.
 
2020-05-29 5:50:00 PM  
But what about the Seven Cities of Gold?  Tuscon, Las Vegas....
 
2020-05-29 5:52:16 PM  

isamudyson: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/vsQrKZcY​tqg]


I prefer the REAL version

The Four Lads - Istanbul (not Constantinople)
Youtube Wcze7EGorOk

/no yours is better but when in the hell else can I post this?
 
2020-05-29 6:42:24 PM  
That's nobody's busn...

GODDAMNIT
 
2020-05-29 7:04:59 PM  
It seems rather Byzantine to me.
 
2020-05-29 9:12:19 PM  
Sic transit gloria mundi
 
2020-05-29 11:05:58 PM  
Is Hagia Sophia stiII a museum?
 
2020-05-29 11:06:46 PM  
Yeah, but the one that replaced it had excellent furniture.
 
2020-05-29 11:07:23 PM  
I see we've covered whose business this is and is not.
 
2020-05-29 11:09:46 PM  
Bet he had to paint that fast before the crowd trampled over him
 
2020-05-29 11:11:54 PM  
That's what they get for letting those pesky Targaryn kids get away.
 
2020-05-29 11:16:59 PM  

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Just discovered that song on an episode of Bunheads
 
2020-05-29 11:19:38 PM  
It was a pretty corrupt and vicious civilisation and was pretty much crumbling by the time it fell. Some nice buildings though.
 
2020-05-29 11:23:36 PM  

gaspode: It was a pretty corrupt and vicious civilisation and was pretty much crumbling by the time it fell. Some nice buildings though.


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2020-05-29 11:24:35 PM  

seelorq: Is Hagia Sophia stiII a museum?


It's sure not a Christian house of worship. Mission accomplished.
 
2020-05-29 11:27:50 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: gaspode: It was a pretty corrupt and vicious civilisation and was pretty much crumbling by the time it fell. Some nice buildings though.

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Don't see a lot of Hagia Sophia's in 'murcaland so all the less reason to be sad.
 
2020-05-29 11:29:47 PM  

ThomasPaineTrain: enry: Was Istanbul okay?

That's nobody's business but the Turks.


Why did Constantinople get the works?
 
2020-05-29 11:33:02 PM  

MBooda: ThomasPaineTrain: enry: Was Istanbul okay?

That's nobody's business but the Turks.

Why did Constantinople get the works?


Free toppings and they were hungry?
 
2020-05-29 11:34:31 PM  
567 years already?, seems like yesterday.

/time flies when you are having fun.
 
2020-05-29 11:35:41 PM  
The Roman Empire isn't dead...it's comatose.
Good arguments have been by smarter people then me that certain foundational elements of Western Civ owe more than a nodding acquaintance to Roman ideas, laws, and customs.
 
2020-05-29 11:39:39 PM  

seelorq: Is Hagia Sophia stiII a museum?


It was as recently as last year when i was there, but Erdogan keeps flirting with making it a mosque again.

It's worth the visit.  It's amazing.  I've been to a bunch of massive cathedrals in Europe, but the Hagia Sophia is special.
 
2020-05-29 11:39:43 PM  
War!!! What is it good for??
Absolutely NOTHING!!!!!

I love the "Classics"!!!
 
2020-05-29 11:41:10 PM  

gaspode: It was a pretty corrupt and vicious civilisation and was pretty much crumbling by the time it fell. Some nice buildings though.


To be replaced with a civilization just as corrupt & vicious, if not even more.
 
2020-05-29 11:42:24 PM  
Hey don't spoil it for me!
 
2020-05-29 11:44:32 PM  

seelorq: Is Hagia Sophia stiII a museum?


Used to be street vendors with roasted corn on the cob selling outside the museum. Pretty good. I suppose that's gone now.
 
2020-05-29 11:44:33 PM  
I just finished playing Assassin's Creed Revelations too. Not my favorite of the series, but not my least favorite either.
 
2020-05-29 11:44:45 PM  
You mean 1204, subby, and the anniversary was last month.
 
2020-05-29 11:50:50 PM  

alitaki: I just finished playing Assassin's Creed Revelations too. Not my favorite of the series, but not my least favorite either.


I hear ya. I got hammered the other night and tried repeatedly to ride a cow in Red Dead Redemption 2 until another player asked me what the hell I was trying to do. I, uh, didn't have a good answer.
 
2020-05-29 11:53:15 PM  
And they're still farking squatting there and on a ton of other people's lands, same as it ever was.
 
2020-05-30 12:05:03 AM  
What was Constantinople wearing? Maybe it was asking to be sacked.
 
2020-05-30 12:05:39 AM  

raerae1980: I recommend watching the Netflix docudrama about this.  It was really good, true to history, and enough sex and violence to add authenticity.


Sex?
I thought we invented that...

/ incredible
// every generation thinks so
/// could have sworn it was us until I was 45...
 
2020-05-30 12:06:41 AM  

deadsanta: And they're still farking squatting there and on a ton of other people's lands, same as it ever was.


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2020-05-30 12:07:22 AM  
Thing is the place had about 20K people there at the time as it was a run-down, disease-ridden pit no one wanted to be in. It sucked.

/ I'm old.
 
2020-05-30 12:17:25 AM  
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2020-05-30 12:28:26 AM  

Troy McClure: seelorq: Is Hagia Sophia stiII a museum?

It was as recently as last year when i was there, but Erdogan keeps flirting with making it a mosque again.

It's worth the visit.  It's amazing.  I've been to a bunch of massive cathedrals in Europe, but the Hagia Sophia is special.


OK

Some day, I hope to get there
 
2020-05-30 12:30:22 AM  

CrazyCurt: Thing is the place had about 20K people there at the time as it was a run-down, disease-ridden pit no one wanted to be in. It sucked.

/ I'm old.


It's nice that your memory is still sharp enough to remember it and provide us with an eye-witness account though.
 
2020-05-30 12:32:36 AM  

CrazyCurt: Thing is the place had about 20K people there at the time as it was a run-down, disease-ridden pit no one wanted to be in. It sucked.

/ I'm old.


User name checks out
 
2020-05-30 12:33:24 AM  
1453 is a terrific 'period at the end of the sentence,' but the empire had been disintegrating for about 300 years before that. It ended with a whimper, rather than a bang.

What always really strikes me though is that Constantinople--the last direct/continuous legacy of 1000 years of Roman history--fell, and not even 40 years later, Columbus 'discovered' the Americas. Constantinople fell during Columbus's lifetime. Yes he was two years old, but still.
 
2020-05-30 12:34:04 AM  

arkansized: Good arguments have been by smarter people then me


let that stew
 
2020-05-30 12:34:30 AM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: 1453 is a terrific 'period at the end of the sentence,' but the empire had been disintegrating for about 300 years before that. It ended with a whimper, rather than a bang.

What always really strikes me though is that Constantinople--the last direct/continuous legacy of 1000 2000 years of Roman history--fell, and not even 40 years later, Columbus 'discovered' the Americas. Constantinople fell during Columbus's lifetime. Yes he was two years old, but still.


Clearly I was a history major, not a math major.
 
2020-05-30 12:36:51 AM  

DarkLancelot: Sic transit gloria mundi


i didnt know Gloria was sick
 
2020-05-30 12:37:11 AM  
 
2020-05-30 12:38:39 AM  

arkansized: The Roman Empire isn't dead...it's comatose.
Good arguments have been by smarter people then me that certain foundational elements of Western Civ owe more than a nodding acquaintance to Roman ideas, laws, and customs.


Especially the orgies
 
2020-05-30 12:41:10 AM  

ThomasPaineTrain: enry: Was Istanbul okay?

That's nobody's business but the Turks.


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2020-05-30 12:42:07 AM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: 1453 is a terrific 'period at the end of the sentence,' but the empire had been disintegrating for about 300 years before that. It ended with a whimper, rather than a bang.

What always really strikes me though is that Constantinople--the last direct/continuous legacy of 1000 years of Roman history--fell, and not even 40 years later, Columbus 'discovered' the Americas. Constantinople fell during Columbus's lifetime. Yes he was two years old, but still.


I'm not here to argue but call BS on your "1000 year" -- whatever, Rome had been sacked once/dozen times since institution of new calendar (BC/AD)

/courtesy of the more warlike tribes amongst them
 
2020-05-30 12:42:36 AM  

Troy McClure: seelorq: Is Hagia Sophia stiII a museum?

It was as recently as last year when i was there, but Erdogan keeps flirting with making it a mosque again.

It's worth the visit.  It's amazing.  I've been to a bunch of massive cathedrals in Europe, but the Hagia Sophia is special.


Perhaps I am wrong but I got the feeling when the Ottomans converted the Hagia Sohia into a mosque they covered all the frescoes - but it seems the plaster was remarkably easy to remove centuries later revealing excellence.

I wonder if the architect tasked by the Sultan did this on purpose, noting the beauty and simply covered it up versus destroying it.
 
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