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(Fark)   Whilst making deep fried hash browns and taking shots and I ponder: What happens if you pour vodka into a hot deep fryer? Geek tab because I'm curious as to what the chemical reaction would be without burning down my house   (fark.com) divider line
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2020-05-29 12:02:44 PM  
Before you do, call the burn ward and let them know you will be dropping by soon.
 
2020-05-29 12:09:25 PM  
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2020-05-29 12:11:26 PM  
80 proof vodka is still 60% water so...
 
2020-05-29 12:13:17 PM  
The chemical reaction is called "FOOOOOOOOOM!!!"  It's exothermic in nature.
 
2020-05-29 12:15:40 PM  
Do not do this.  In addition to the water flashing to steam, the ethanol will be well above its flash point.
 
2020-05-29 12:23:52 PM  
You are going to die in a fire.
 
2020-05-29 12:27:21 PM  
Similar to this:

Do Not Drop Food Cans in Hot Burning Oil!
Youtube U4JUQaLHriU
 
2020-05-29 12:41:15 PM  
The alcohol and water will boil just like if you pour water in. However, in this case, the vapor given off would contain alcohol which is flammable so it would be worse than just water.
 
2020-05-29 12:42:08 PM  
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2020-05-29 12:45:10 PM  
Do not do this.

You will be wasting precious vodka.
 
2020-05-29 12:47:48 PM  
Come on down and get toasted at the Maillard Tavern!
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2020-05-29 12:53:04 PM  
If you have no regard for your personal safety, livestream the event.
 
2020-05-29 12:57:15 PM  
No idea, but in an unrelated bit of advice, do NOT try milk in a Sodastream machine. It will end badly. Trust me.

/But you'll probably live. Unlike the vodka thing.
 
2020-05-29 12:58:11 PM  
"Geek tab" because TFD finally got tired of your shiat, Subby?

toraque:
Do not do this.

You will be wasting precious vodka.


The oil too.  Hard to deep fry potatoes in a smoky mist of flame.
 
2020-05-29 12:59:21 PM  
Talking Heads - Burning Down the House (Official Video)
Youtube _3eC35LoF4U
 
2020-05-29 1:03:24 PM  

xanadian: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/_3eC35Lo​F4U]


One of the best synth rhythm/leads ever.  Cranked up with a good stereo amp and speakers, that song can help you digest your food by turning your whole gut into a gizzard.
 
2020-05-29 1:08:22 PM  
DO NOT DO THIS!

if you ignore my first statement and do it anyways do it outside and rig up some way to drop the vodak into the oil while your well away.
 
2020-05-29 1:09:14 PM  
It's actually really cool!  I don't want to spoil it though.  You should live stream it.  Post a link so we can all watch together to partake in the fun.
 
2020-05-29 1:14:54 PM  
You burn your place down, probably slowly kill yourself from the explosion results, and if its an apartment you family/estate will be sued into oblivion once they find this
 
2020-05-29 1:20:34 PM  
I recall a kitchen horror story from my old votech commercial foods teacher told students about a former student whom decided to fry a basket of ice cubes. The kid ended needing skin grafts on part of face and arms. Two other students received minor burns a few yards away.
 
2020-05-29 1:23:52 PM  
I actually tried this once. The whole thing turns into a box of puppies
 
2020-05-29 1:31:38 PM  
Call it the "fry vodka challenge", talk it up on tik-tok, and watch a bunch of people do it themselves...
 
2020-05-29 1:35:53 PM  
You're supposed to use Vodak.
Only the uninitiated use Vodka.
 
2020-05-29 2:03:54 PM  
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/seriously, don't do that. Ever. Don't even consider it.
 
2020-05-29 2:07:05 PM  

Moosedick Gladys Greengroin: You're supposed to use Vodak.
Only the uninitiated use Vodka.


I can't believe how many Farkers spelled Vodak wrong
 
2020-05-29 2:09:11 PM  
Is this for breakfast?
 
2020-05-29 2:26:08 PM  
If, after all of this you decide to do it, remember - landscape, not portrait
 
2020-05-29 2:45:46 PM  

GRCooper: If, after all of this you decide to do it, remember - landscape, not portrait


Nah. Really piss people off


35.8 degree angle between the two
 
2020-05-29 2:49:56 PM  
Boiling oil, drop in a shotglass full of vodka, they call it a boiler-explosion maker.
 
2020-05-29 2:58:37 PM  

ggowins: 80 proof vodka is still 60% water so...


You will not go to space today:

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2020-05-29 3:01:56 PM  

poorjon: I actually tried this once. The whole thing turns into a box of puppies


Mmmm.

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2020-05-29 3:16:59 PM  
Keep the fire extinguisher handy.

LOL, if you pour any liquid into a pan full of hot oil, shiat is gonna get real, real fast.

Don't do it.
 
2020-05-29 3:41:24 PM  
I actually don't just play a chemist on TV, and I think I can give a serious answer. The immediate and most dramatic result would be physical rather than chemical.

When water falls into hot oil it causes a steam explosion - water sinks to the bottom and boils, the vapor is about 1,000 x larger than the liquid, so it displaces a large amount of oil as fine droplets. If you're lucky this makes a greasy mess. It will probably burn you, and it might start a fire.

Vodka is about 60:40 water:ethanol, which makes things kind of interesting. Ethanol can emulsify water and oil, helping them mix. My gut intuition is it would probably result in more but smaller steam bubbles, probably making the oil froth up a lot, but  without the violent spattering. However, it will probably froth out of the container. Now the vapor has flammable ethanol in it, and if there's a source of ignition, you've got a BLEVE on your hands.

Chemically speaking: the water might saponify the triglycerides, making a bit of soap, and the ethanol might transesterify them, making a bit of biodiesel. Neither reaction is very dramatic, and you probably wouldn't notice the difference.


TLDR: it might not be as bad as just water, but it has the potential to be WAYYY worse
 
2020-05-29 3:41:43 PM  
Wow. I figured there would be a clip somewhere on YouTube, but I can't find one.
Subby, if you do try it please film it and post to YouTube.
/always checks YouTube for clips of other idiots trying idiotic things before attempting myself
 
2020-05-29 3:43:31 PM  
I've wanted to put ethanol in a coffee maker for a while now. I support your curiosity.
 
2020-05-29 4:07:58 PM  
This guy approves.

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2020-05-29 4:28:00 PM  

recondite cetacean: I've wanted to put ethanol in a coffee maker for a while now. I support your curiosity.


That might technically be distillation of "spirits" during at least part of the process and therefore probably illegal without a license in your jurisdiction.
 
2020-05-29 4:34:34 PM  
I misinterpreted this as, "What if I used vodka instead of oil as the thing I deep-fry my hash browns in?" Was honestly confused for a few posts as to why people were thinking a mere boiling, increasingly soaked but unfried potato would result in a disastrous explosion.

...But yeah if you've got boiling oil and throw vodka into it, it probably doesn't end well.
 
2020-05-29 4:51:16 PM  

poorjon: I actually don't just play a chemist on TV, and I think I can give a serious answer. The immediate and most dramatic result would be physical rather than chemical.

When water falls into hot oil it causes a steam explosion - water sinks to the bottom and boils, the vapor is about 1,000 x larger than the liquid, so it displaces a large amount of oil as fine droplets. If you're lucky this makes a greasy mess. It will probably burn you, and it might start a fire.

Vodka is about 60:40 water:ethanol, which makes things kind of interesting. Ethanol can emulsify water and oil, helping them mix. My gut intuition is it would probably result in more but smaller steam bubbles, probably making the oil froth up a lot, but  without the violent spattering. However, it will probably froth out of the container. Now the vapor has flammable ethanol in it, and if there's a source of ignition, you've got a BLEVE on your hands.

Chemically speaking: the water might saponify the triglycerides, making a bit of soap, and the ethanol might transesterify them, making a bit of biodiesel. Neither reaction is very dramatic, and you probably wouldn't notice the difference.


TLDR: it might not be as bad as just water, but it has the potential to be WAYYY worse


Thank you! I worked in the restaurant industry from my teens to early 20s so I have plenty experience with deep frying and what happens when water or ice get in the hot oil but was unsure of how the ethanol would behave. I tried googling/youtubing for answers but was dismayed to find that there are none (as noted by a commenter above). I was genuinely curious as to whether or not it would ignite. My fryer is electric so without an open flame or spark I think it would just have a violent froth/steam reaction. If I were using a gas (commercial) fryer I think if/when the oil/vodka/steam mixture made its way far enough inside to hit the open flame or pilot light it would cause a big-bada-BOOM! Of course I'm not going to try this at home..... unfortunately. Thanks again!

/subby
 
2020-05-29 5:07:31 PM  
Something like this:
Water thrown into lava lake creates explosive results
Youtube lDxOhfiFsuc
 
2020-05-29 7:04:32 PM  

recondite cetacean: I've wanted to put ethanol in a coffee maker for a while now. I support your curiosity.


Ooooooh. Flammable liquid and an immersion heater. I wanna watch! Outdoors. From 'way over there. Upwind.
 
2020-05-29 7:06:51 PM  
Do this:
Take out your junk, walk over to the deep fryer and spit into it.
Imagine the results as several orders of magnitude worse than that.
Rinse off your junk and put ice on it.
Sit on the sofa and have that shot.
 
2020-05-29 7:15:07 PM  

poorjon: I actually don't just play a chemist on TV, and I think I can give a serious answer. The immediate and most dramatic result would be physical rather than chemical.

When water falls into hot oil it causes a steam explosion - water sinks to the bottom and boils, the vapor is about 1,000 x larger than the liquid, so it displaces a large amount of oil as fine droplets. If you're lucky this makes a greasy mess. It will probably burn you, and it might start a fire.

Vodka is about 60:40 water:ethanol, which makes things kind of interesting. Ethanol can emulsify water and oil, helping them mix. My gut intuition is it would probably result in more but smaller steam bubbles, probably making the oil froth up a lot, but  without the violent spattering. However, it will probably froth out of the container. Now the vapor has flammable ethanol in it, and if there's a source of ignition, you've got a BLEVE on your hands.

Chemically speaking: the water might saponify the triglycerides, making a bit of soap, and the ethanol might transesterify them, making a bit of biodiesel. Neither reaction is very dramatic, and you probably wouldn't notice the difference.


TLDR: it might not be as bad as just water, but it has the potential to be WAYYY worse


Technically, it wouldn't be a BLEVE.  BLEVE requires a pressurized vessel, as one of the main mechanics of a BLEVE is the sudden release of a liquid heated up above it's boiling point from a higher pressure.  The drop in pressure causes the liquid to flash and drives the expansion of the (usually flaming) gas/vapor cloud.  Unless he is deepfrying in a pressure cooker, our fireball doesn't quite fit the definition.

What you get in this case is a boilover.  Still plenty nasty.  There's a video of an oil storage tank in Texas that has a boilover, claims 3rd degree burns on people standing 200 yards from the tank. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v​=RgCGGu​QCnWk

As for emulsification, I would think that the rapid generation of steam and alcohol vapors would generally inhibit the formation of any emulsion (basically a Leidenfrost effect) and you would still get the violent eruption.

I thought you generally needed a fairly strong base to saponify triglycerides (e.g. lye), and esters are the reaction between an acid and an alcohol.  Not saying you are wrong (my chemistry skills weren't top notch when I was in college, and they've not gotten better since then), but it would surprise me if these reactions happen, especially given the time scales the reactants have before the water and alcohol say bye-bye to the frying pan.
 
2020-05-29 7:30:55 PM  

lendrak: Unless he is deepfrying in a pressure cooker


I think this is a worthy upgrade to the experiment.
 
2020-05-29 7:58:38 PM  
Unless you're a good distance away from anything flammable, dumping Vodka into boiling oil sounds like a really bad idea.

On the other hand, if you have a really stupid friend you don't really care about, and are a good distance from anything flammable you do care about, this sounds like it could be hella fun.

/ This makes me sound like a sociopath
// Or maybe a psychopath
/// So how come I'm not running a Fortune 500 company making 8 figures a year plus options?
 
2020-05-29 10:41:17 PM  

Snotnose: Unless you're a good distance away from anything flammable, dumping Vodka into boiling oil sounds like a really bad idea.

On the other hand, if you have a really stupid friend you don't really care about, and are a good distance from anything flammable you do care about, this sounds like it could be hella fun.

/ This makes me sound like a sociopath
// Or maybe a psychopath
/// So how come I'm not running a Fortune 500 company making 8 figures a year plus options?


Turns out you're just a run-of-the-mill weirdo.  Like the rest of us here.
 
2020-05-30 8:59:29 AM  

Snotnose: Unless you're a good distance away from anything flammable, dumping Vodka into boiling oil sounds like a really bad idea.


FTFY
 
2020-05-30 11:12:29 AM  
Explosive Oil Fire at 2500fps - The Slow Mo Guys
Youtube PbgdRR4yj8Y


thats basically what will happen for everyone who says they cant find anything on youtube. Its really rather beautiful to watch honestly

Terrifying, but beautiful
 
2020-05-30 11:32:58 AM  
Jesus, water thrown into a fat fryer is scary enough.
Maybe you could soak sponge cake in vodka, panè it with egg flour and breadcrumbs *then* fry it...?
 
2020-05-30 1:13:27 PM  

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thats basically what will happen for everyone who says they cant find anything on youtube. Its really rather beautiful to watch honestly

Terrifying, but beautiful


I'm a smolist. I build and paint smol things. This is perfect reference for when the time comes to paint fire. It is also seriously trippy.
 
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