Skip to content
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(The Hill)   No shirt, no shoes, no mask, no service   (thehill.com) divider line
    More: News, New York City, Real estate, store owners, Chairman of the Federal Reserve, public settings, public transportation, shape Fed chairman's COVID-19 response, private businesses  
•       •       •

3898 clicks; posted to Politics » on 28 May 2020 at 3:12 PM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



139 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2020-05-28 1:52:20 PM  
FWIW, I picked up takeout in SoCal yesterday, and despite the location (legally) requiring masks, a woman came in without one to get her order and they didn't say anything.

We're never going to solve this if people are afraid of offending transgressors.
 
2020-05-28 1:57:30 PM  
You don't need an executive order to tell business to do what they are already allowed to do.  However, it could serve to make in clear and provide proper direction to authorities.
 
2020-05-28 2:00:19 PM  
THEY DIDN'T MENTION PANTS!
 
2020-05-28 2:02:50 PM  
This is the right thing to do.
This will lead to at least one murder.
The fact that I'm sure both of those statements are true makes me want to weep.
 
2020-05-28 2:07:53 PM  
Good.
 
2020-05-28 2:20:20 PM  
Honest question:  You're wearing a facemask in public and you sneeze; how does that work?  Do you remove the mask and sneeze into a tissue?  Do you sneeze into the mask and wait until you get home to take off the snot and stuff?  Do you take off the mask in public and clean it or put on a fresh one?  What do?

/Personally, I carry a handkerchief to cough and sneeze into.  Then fold it and put it and the germs back in my pocket

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-05-28 3:04:37 PM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-05-28 3:13:47 PM  

Il Douchey: Honest question:  You're wearing a facemask in public and you sneeze; how does that work?  Do you remove the mask and sneeze into a tissue?  Do you sneeze into the mask and wait until you get home to take off the snot and stuff?  Do you take off the mask in public and clean it or put on a fresh one?  What do?

/Personally, I carry a handkerchief to cough and sneeze into.  Then fold it and put it and the germs back in my pocket

[Fark user image 253x201]


Take it off, sneeze into elbow, put mask back on, spritz some sanitizer on hands.
 
2020-05-28 3:14:18 PM  
I support this message
 
2020-05-28 3:15:05 PM  
Allowing businesses?  Businesses already have that right.  Trespassing is a real offense already on the books.
 
2020-05-28 3:15:18 PM  
As long as you don't have to be masc...
 
2020-05-28 3:15:50 PM  

no shirt no shoes: I support this message


username checks out
 
2020-05-28 3:16:11 PM  

mrshowrules: You don't need an executive order to tell business to do what they are already allowed to do.  However, it could serve to make in clear and provide proper direction to authorities.


Problem is that businesses don't seem to care. Most gas stations I've been to the staff doesn't wear them, people don't wear them. Large retail/grocery chains have a bit more control because they have more staff. 

Thing is, I think an order like this could be dangerous long term. Again, refusing someone in a store with tens of staff to assist is one thing, a single person at a convenience store asking someone who absolutely will not wear one is going to lead to abuse of some kind.
 
2020-05-28 3:16:16 PM  
A lot of these yucklefarks would shoot the virus into their own eyeballs if you let them.  but yeah, GL with getting them to wear masks now that they think it's unamerican.
 
2020-05-28 3:16:40 PM  
Why the fark didn't he do this three months ago?  Talk about a shiatty ineffective governor.
 
2020-05-28 3:16:44 PM  
I was once in a Publix in Santa Rosa Beach, FL and several of the patrons were wearing jeans with no shirt.  Now that's what I call Panhandlin'!
 
2020-05-28 3:17:10 PM  
So, it has come to this...
 
2020-05-28 3:17:30 PM  
I'm worried this could be interpreted as implying they don't already have that right -- inviting a barrage of lawsuits for conduct that's already occurred.
 
2020-05-28 3:17:46 PM  
Il Douchey:

/Personally, I carry a handkerchief to cough and sneeze into.  Then fold it and put it and the germs back in my pocket

You sound old.
 
2020-05-28 3:17:46 PM  

mrshowrules: You don't need an executive order to tell business to do what they are already allowed to do.  However, it could serve to make in clear and provide proper direction to authorities.


Yeah, I have no idea why this requires an Executive Order. Not believing in the Coronavirus is not a protected class...
 
2020-05-28 3:17:50 PM  
Of course. How is it not_the same thing? Especially given that lame baker-in-Colorado decision.
 
2020-05-28 3:17:57 PM  
Good.

It's a shame that doing the right thing needs so much reinforcement.
 
2020-05-28 3:18:32 PM  
"We made them mandatory in public settings, public transportation etc., but when we're talking about reopening stores and places of business, we're giving the store owners the right to say, 'If you're not wearing a mask, you can't come in,'" Cuomo said during his daily press briefing.

Can't they already do that?

Quick google reveakls:
Can business owners really refuse service to anyone?
Under federal anti-discrimination laws, businesses can refuse service to any person for any reason, unless the business is discriminating against a protected class.
At the national level, protected classes include:
Race or color
National origin or citizenship status
Religion or creed
Sex
Age
Disability, pregnancy, or genetic information
Veteran status
Some states, like California, have more protected classes than the federal baseline.  In addition to the above factors, California adds:
Marital status
Sexual orientation or gender identity
Medical condition, or AIDS/HIV status
Military or veteran status
Political affiliations or activities
Status as a victim of domestic violence, assault, or stalking
Contact  your state attorney general or consult a lawyer for details on how your state handles its particular antidiscrimination law.
https://www.mydoorsign.com/blog/right​-​to-refuse-service-to-anyone/
 
2020-05-28 3:18:32 PM  
What about gay? Can I still wear gay in establishments?
 
2020-05-28 3:18:51 PM  
 
2020-05-28 3:19:20 PM  

phimuskapsi: mrshowrules: You don't need an executive order to tell business to do what they are already allowed to do.  However, it could serve to make in clear and provide proper direction to authorities.

Problem is that businesses don't seem to care. Most gas stations I've been to the staff doesn't wear them, people don't wear them. Large retail/grocery chains have a bit more control because they have more staff. 

Thing is, I think an order like this could be dangerous long term. Again, refusing someone in a store with tens of staff to assist is one thing, a single person at a convenience store asking someone who absolutely will not wear one is going to lead to abuse of some kind.


Hmm, seems that a large number of people would support a 2A solution to handle these trespassers if they weren't the offenders in this case.
 
2020-05-28 3:19:29 PM  

mrshowrules: You don't need an executive order to tell business to do what they are already allowed to do.  However, it could serve to make in clear and provide proper direction to authorities.


Yes.  Some businesses require wearing a "jacket and tie" to enter.  Was a private business having a dress code not allowed in NY before the order?
 
2020-05-28 3:20:48 PM  
Now that the alt-righters are trying to use the Minneapolis protests for their own nefarious purposes, I'm sure these same schmucks will try to start fights in NY.

The escalation of alt-righters is significantly increasing and scares the shiat out of me.
 
2020-05-28 3:21:15 PM  

RussianPotato: Why the fark didn't he do this three months ago?  Talk about a shiatty ineffective governor.


Let's talk about a shiatty ineffective president.
 
2020-05-28 3:22:21 PM  

RyogaM: Il Douchey: Honest question:  You're wearing a facemask in public and you sneeze; how does that work?  Do you remove the mask and sneeze into a tissue?  Do you sneeze into the mask and wait until you get home to take off the snot and stuff?  Do you take off the mask in public and clean it or put on a fresh one?  What do?

/Personally, I carry a handkerchief to cough and sneeze into.  Then fold it and put it and the germs back in my pocket

[Fark user image 253x201]

Take it off, sneeze into elbow, put mask back on, spritz some sanitizer on hands.


do not touch your farking mask until you are home and can sanitize your hands.
sneeze and cough into the farking thing. that is exactly why you wear it!
when you get back to your home you sanitize your hands and then remove the mask. sanitize hands again after touching your mask.

If you use reuseable masks, throw the mask directly into soapy water and wash as soon as possible.
If you use disposable masks, put in a bag appropriately labelled with a biohazard sticker, seal it up and throw away with garbage.
 
2020-05-28 3:22:27 PM  
This changes nothing.  So long as they weren't discriminating against you for a reason that actually enjoys legal protection, they could kick you out anyway.

What's really needed is something barring businesses from forbidding customers to wear masks.
 
2020-05-28 3:22:59 PM  

ImpendingCynic: FWIW, I picked up takeout in SoCal yesterday, and despite the location (legally) requiring masks, a woman came in without one to get her order and they didn't say anything.

We're never going to solve this if people are afraid of offending transgressors.


Have to admit.... I read that at first as transgenders and was confused.  My eyes aren't what they used to be.
 
2020-05-28 3:23:10 PM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-05-28 3:23:15 PM  

Shaggy_C: Meanwhile, in Texas:
For 64 days, Kevin Smith had shut down the Liberty Tree Tavern to comply with government orders...His neighbors in Elgin, Tex., were still wearing masks outside, even after it was no longer mandated by the county. He did not think such a response was necessary, he said, and he wanted to push back. "Sorry, no mask allowed," read the poster taped to the front door of his bar Friday. "Please bare with us thru the ridiculous fearful times."


Fast forward:  "Why did my business go under?!  Everyone is so mean to me!"

"If we're only allowed to be at 25 percent capacity, I want them to be the 25 percent of people that aren't p-----, that aren't sheep," Smith told The Washington Post. "Being scared all the time isn't good for your health. It suppresses your immune system."

EABOD you worthless farknut!
 
2020-05-28 3:23:18 PM  
Kinda late to the punch. We've been doing this for over a month in the liberal-blue bastion of MS.
 
2020-05-28 3:24:18 PM  

eviljimbo: "We made them mandatory in public settings, public transportation etc., but when we're talking about reopening stores and places of business, we're giving the store owners the right to say, 'If you're not wearing a mask, you can't come in,'" Cuomo said during his daily press briefing.

Can't they already do that?

Quick google reveakls:
Can business owners really refuse service to anyone?
Under federal anti-discrimination laws, businesses can refuse service to any person for any reason, unless the business is discriminating against a protected class.
At the national level, protected classes include:
Race or color
National origin or citizenship status
Religion or creed
Sex
Age
Disability, pregnancy, or genetic information
Veteran status
Some states, like California, have more protected classes than the federal baseline.  In addition to the above factors, California adds:
Marital status
Sexual orientation or gender identity
Medical condition, or AIDS/HIV status
Military or veteran status
Political affiliations or activities
Status as a victim of domestic violence, assault, or stalking
Contact  your state attorney general or consult a lawyer for details on how your state handles its particular antidiscrimination law.
https://www.mydoorsign.com/blog/right-​to-refuse-service-to-anyone/


Aren't conservative snowflake man baby and totally offended Karen protected classes?
 
2020-05-28 3:24:57 PM  

Il Douchey: Honest question:  You're wearing a facemask in public and you sneeze; how does that work?  Do you remove the mask and sneeze into a tissue?  Do you sneeze into the mask and wait until you get home to take off the snot and stuff?  Do you take off the mask in public and clean it or put on a fresh one?  What do?

/Personally, I carry a handkerchief to cough and sneeze into.  Then fold it and put it and the germs back in my pocket

[Fark user image 253x201]


Based off your username, just suppress the sneeze by shoving a douche up your nostrils
 
2020-05-28 3:25:55 PM  
Well done, Grumpy Cuomo cat.
 
2020-05-28 3:26:59 PM  

vrax: "If we're only allowed to be at 25 percent capacity, I want them to be the 25 percent of people that aren't p-----, that aren't sheep,"


Damn, I didn't even read that part in TFA this morning. Dude sounds like a grade-a dumbass. Sad part is, he'll probably actually do quite well in Texas.
 
2020-05-28 3:27:23 PM  
This will piss off a lot of stupid people.
 
2020-05-28 3:27:49 PM  

ImpendingCynic: FWIW, I picked up takeout in SoCal yesterday, and despite the location (legally) requiring masks, a woman came in without one to get her order and they didn't say anything.

We're never going to solve this if people are afraid of offending transgressors.


This is where you need social pressure. Only the worst sociopaths would push to the front of a long line at McDonalds, because they know folks would go apeshiat. We all need to treat someone who walks into a store without a mask as if they had their dick hanging out.
 
2020-05-28 3:28:23 PM  
NO SHIRT, NO SHOES, NO SERVICE

NO PEACE!

NO SHIRT, NO SHOES, NO SERVICE

NO PEACE!
 
2020-05-28 3:29:16 PM  
Good ol' days of April.

Fark user imageView Full Size


Looks like there are 427 deaths a little over a month later, Candace.
 
2020-05-28 3:30:10 PM  

phimuskapsi: mrshowrules: You don't need an executive order to tell business to do what they are already allowed to do.  However, it could serve to make in clear and provide proper direction to authorities.

Problem is that businesses don't seem to care. Most gas stations I've been to the staff doesn't wear them, people don't wear them. Large retail/grocery chains have a bit more control because they have more staff. 

Thing is, I think an order like this could be dangerous long term. Again, refusing someone in a store with tens of staff to assist is one thing, a single person at a convenience store asking someone who absolutely will not wear one is going to lead to abuse of some kind.


This.

The owners of my hotel decided to put up full plexi shields from ceiling to desk with a small gap for passing papers, but no mask requirement for customers.

My county has enacted a similar law, requiring masks in public indoor spaces (including businesses), but they have admitted the police are unlikely to cite someone solely for not wearing a mask.

I don't like it, but I understand. I work alone. Sure I'm a 200-lb guy, but I walk with a cane so I'm not exactly intimidating. There has been more than one case of MAGATs getting offended and violent over mask requirements, including at least one murder that I'm aware of.

I've been wearing a mask for a while at work, and at least once per day some redhat decides to insult or berate me. "You look like a pussy" was the most recent one. At least once a week I've gotten a lengthy lecture about the "democrat hoax". The percentage of masked customers has increased, but it's still around half.
 
2020-05-28 3:30:24 PM  
This clearly violates all the amendments.
 
2020-05-28 3:31:16 PM  
Stupid question, but wasn't this already technically the case? Businesses can enforce any dress code they like, right?
 
2020-05-28 3:31:46 PM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: [Fark user image 393x400]


This is how I view it, not a got damn constitutional crisis.
 
2020-05-28 3:32:06 PM  
I have no problem with this. People have been asked, they've been begged, but a disturbingly large chunk of the population will not do anything unless the law requires them to do it, and even then, a sizable chunk of that chunk will still refuse. You're being asked to put on a face mask, not take a razor blade and mutilate your face. The hysterical overreaction by some people to these *at the moment* suggestions would be humorous if it wasn't so farking stupid.
 
2020-05-28 3:32:38 PM  

RussianPotato: Why the fark didn't he do this three months ago?  Talk about a shiatty ineffective governor.


People in NY don't have much of an issue with wearing masks when a business asks them to, but now that gross hayseeds are trying agitate against being a good neighbor it's the right time to reiterate what's allowed.
 
2020-05-28 3:33:41 PM  

Coco LaFemme: I have no problem with this. People have been asked, they've been begged, but a disturbingly large chunk of the population will not do anything unless the law requires them to do it, and even then, a sizable chunk of that chunk will still refuse. You're being asked to put on a face mask, not take a razor blade and mutilate your face. The hysterical overreaction by some people to these *at the moment* suggestions would be humorous if it wasn't so farking stupid.


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
Displayed 50 of 139 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking





On Twitter




In Other Media
  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.