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2020-05-27 9:37:34 AM  
Drago voice:  If they die... they die.
 
2020-05-27 9:43:17 AM  
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2020-05-27 9:52:20 AM  
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2020-05-27 9:55:13 AM  
Half? Damn, them Trumpers are gonna take it to the grave.
 
2020-05-27 10:00:25 AM  
I wouldn't get it right away. There's a reason most vaccines take a decade to develop and it's not because Pfizer hates money. It takes that long to find a safety signal in a few thousand volunteers. I figure once it's been in a couple million people for a few months it's safe enough.
 
2020-05-27 10:06:59 AM  
If it was only so easy to snap my fingers and have those idiots disappear.
 
2020-05-27 10:18:36 AM  

Bowen: I wouldn't get it right away. There's a reason most vaccines take a decade to develop and it's not because Pfizer hates money. It takes that long to find a safety signal in a few thousand volunteers. I figure once it's been in a couple million people for a few months it's safe enough.


That makes sense. I would volunteer for human trials. I'm old though so I'm not risking much.
 
2020-05-27 10:40:15 AM  
Who says they'll even get a vaccine? The common cold is usually caused by less virulent coronavirus strains, and no one has been able to solve that one yet.
 
2020-05-27 10:41:16 AM  

LadySusan: Bowen: I wouldn't get it right away. There's a reason most vaccines take a decade to develop and it's not because Pfizer hates money. It takes that long to find a safety signal in a few thousand volunteers. I figure once it's been in a couple million people for a few months it's safe enough.

That makes sense. I would volunteer for human trials. I'm old though so I'm not risking much.


Me too! I'm in for it - hoping for a super power.

/Pew pew pew
 
2020-05-27 10:41:44 AM  
This pandemic will be over in a snap.
 
2020-05-27 10:42:26 AM  

Bowen: I wouldn't get it right away. There's a reason most vaccines take a decade to develop and it's not because Pfizer hates money. It takes that long to find a safety signal in a few thousand volunteers. I figure once it's been in a couple million people for a few months it's safe enough.


Just enough time for Bill Gates to get is microchips in working order...
 
2020-05-27 10:43:56 AM  
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2020-05-27 10:44:17 AM  

Bowen: I wouldn't get it right away. There's a reason most vaccines take a decade to develop and it's not because Pfizer hates money. It takes that long to find a safety signal in a few thousand volunteers. I figure once it's been in a couple million people for a few months it's safe enough.


Put me in this category.  I'll wait a few months unless they announce the side effect is it stiffens old farkers third leg deal.
 
2020-05-27 10:45:09 AM  
This would be a self-correcting problem... if a shiat-ton of healthcare and service workers weren't at risk of going down with them. At this point that's the only thing I'm still angry about.
 
2020-05-27 10:49:07 AM  

Charmin Mao Tse-Bung: Who says they'll even get a vaccine? The common cold is usually caused by less virulent coronavirus strains, and no one has been able to solve that one yet.


From what I understand (which isn't much beyond food tastes good and debt is bad), the reason there's no vaccine against the common cold is because it mutates so fast and there are so many strains constantly changing.

I believe there has also been discussion of a one size fits all vaccine for different types of viruses.  Kind of like car companies with common platforms, these viruses have different outward appearance, but are all really similar underneath.  The problem, again from what the three active cells in my brain understand, is that a vaccine like this would take a decade and billions of dollars to develop.  There's no financial incentive for individual companies to risk that.

/"A society grows great when old men plant trees who's shade they know they shall never sit in."
 
2020-05-27 10:51:34 AM  

ShavedOrangutan: Charmin Mao Tse-Bung: Who says they'll even get a vaccine? The common cold is usually caused by less virulent coronavirus strains, and no one has been able to solve that one yet.

From what I understand (which isn't much beyond food tastes good and debt is bad), the reason there's no vaccine against the common cold is because it mutates so fast and there are so many strains constantly changing.


Not only that, but the common cold rarely results in death.  It's more an inconvenience than a threat.
 
2020-05-27 10:52:02 AM  

Charmin Mao Tse-Bung: Who says they'll even get a vaccine? The common cold is usually caused by less virulent coronavirus strains, and no one has been able to solve that one yet.


While people have worked on such a thing, there just hasn't been the need or the will to pour vast amounts of money and other resources into solving a problem that's usually nothing more than a minor inconvenience. This is like saying in 1966, "Who says they'll get people to the moon? No one's been able to do it yet."
 
2020-05-27 10:53:51 AM  

Porkbelly: Bowen: I wouldn't get it right away. There's a reason most vaccines take a decade to develop and it's not because Pfizer hates money. It takes that long to find a safety signal in a few thousand volunteers. I figure once it's been in a couple million people for a few months it's safe enough.

Put me in this category.  I'll wait a few months unless they announce the side effect is it stiffens old farkers third leg deal.


Same here.

Subtonic:
Just enough time for Bill Gates to get is microchips in working order...

Between Gates and Bezos they know all my browser history. Whatever man....just get the vaccine into my body
 
2020-05-27 10:55:52 AM  

DippityDoo: LadySusan: Bowen: I wouldn't get it right away. There's a reason most vaccines take a decade to develop and it's not because Pfizer hates money. It takes that long to find a safety signal in a few thousand volunteers. I figure once it's been in a couple million people for a few months it's safe enough.

That makes sense. I would volunteer for human trials. I'm old though so I'm not risking much.

Me too! I'm in for it - hoping for a super power.

/Pew pew pew


Every time I find myself thinking about doing something like that...well...  https://www.thesun.co​.uk/news/2917810/​elephant-man-drug-testing-trial-tgn141​2/ (Caution, necrotic finger tips.)
 
2020-05-27 10:56:27 AM  

Bowen: I wouldn't get it right away. There's a reason most vaccines take a decade to develop and it's not because Pfizer hates money. It takes that long to find a safety signal in a few thousand volunteers. I figure once it's been in a couple million people for a few months it's safe enough.


Same here.  If "Operation Warp Speed" came out with a vaccine this August, I'd stay away from it for a bit.
 
2020-05-27 10:57:14 AM  

Wave Of Anal Fury: ShavedOrangutan: Charmin Mao Tse-Bung: Who says they'll even get a vaccine? The common cold is usually caused by less virulent coronavirus strains, and no one has been able to solve that one yet.

From what I understand (which isn't much beyond food tastes good and debt is bad), the reason there's no vaccine against the common cold is because it mutates so fast and there are so many strains constantly changing.

Not only that, but the common cold rarely results in death.  It's more an inconvenience than a threat.


True, but just the loss of productivity would justify a long term investment in that type of vaccine.
 
2020-05-27 11:02:02 AM  
Be careful what you wish for!

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2020-05-27 11:02:04 AM  

Wave Of Anal Fury: ShavedOrangutan: Charmin Mao Tse-Bung: Who says they'll even get a vaccine? The common cold is usually caused by less virulent coronavirus strains, and no one has been able to solve that one yet.

From what I understand (which isn't much beyond food tastes good and debt is bad), the reason there's no vaccine against the common cold is because it mutates so fast and there are so many strains constantly changing.

Not only that, but the common cold rarely results in death.  It's more an inconvenience than a threat.


The "common cold" is like "cancer". It is not one thing at all. There are here hundreds of different types of viruses that give you symptoms. There is no vaccine because it is literally hundreds of different diseases. It is not because it is a thing that mutates super fast. And corona viruses are only a very small % of these.

Drawing a comparison between covid vaccines and antibodies with the "common cold" vaccines and antibodies is not grounded.
 
2020-05-27 11:03:19 AM  
FTA: And 3 in 10 who don't want a vaccine don't fear getting seriously ill from the coronavirus.

My original reaction to this was: Sorry Ron White but you can fix stupid. But I really don't want people to die.
 
2020-05-27 11:05:46 AM  

whitefalcon79: This would be a self-correcting problem... if a shiat-ton of healthcare and service workers weren't at risk of going down with them. At this point that's the only thing I'm still angry about.


They would get vaccinated, thereby rendering them safe regardless of what anyone else does. And yes, I know there's a certain failure rate with vaccines. The vast majority would still be okay.
 
2020-05-27 11:08:59 AM  

Bowen: I wouldn't get it right away. There's a reason most vaccines take a decade to develop and it's not because Pfizer hates money. It takes that long to find a safety signal in a few thousand volunteers. I figure once it's been in a couple million people for a few months it's safe enough.


I have a friend who was one of the "victims"of the older style vaccines.  He lost the use of an arm to the Swine Flu vaccines of 1974.  Still, the wife and I dutifully get the vaccines. Flu. Shingles. Pneumonia. Hepatitis.

Pincushions R Us.
 
2020-05-27 11:10:27 AM  
I would volunteer for the Phase 2 or 3 testing, but not Phase 1.  I'll certainly get the shot once it's available for the general public and the more idiots that refuse to take it the better, makes the lines shorter.

/I realize that vaccines aren't 100% reliable, but I got the first Shingles vaccine even though it was only 50% effective as I had a really serious bout with chicken pox as a kid.  I get flu shots every year - 30-60% is okay by me.  Also, most vaccines will help 'tune up' your immune system a bit.
 
2020-05-27 11:11:51 AM  
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2020-05-27 11:17:14 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Drago voice:  If they die... they die.


Problem is, there's a lot of people that can not get most vaccines.  Those people rely on herd immunity, which relies on everybody that can get a vaccine to get a vaccine.  Also, even without vaccines, they're not 100% effective.  It's the mass usage of them that makes them effective.
 
2020-05-27 11:17:21 AM  
I won't rush out to get the vaccine. I was one of the lucky ones that got the Swine Flu vaccine in 1976 and contracted the Swine Flu a couple of weeks later. It was a week (or so) of true suckage, but I was young and recovered. There was a panic about the Novel Coronavirus and its similarity to the 1918 Spanish Flu. Driven by the panic, the push was made to vaccinate the entire country. The resulting fiasco, and deaths, are largely blamed for the anti-vax movements quick rise. I'd rather that part of history didn't repeat itself.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/heal​t​h/the-public-health-legacy-of-the-1976​-swine-flu-outbreak
 
2020-05-27 11:18:14 AM  

DippityDoo: LadySusan: Bowen: I wouldn't get it right away. There's a reason most vaccines take a decade to develop and it's not because Pfizer hates money. It takes that long to find a safety signal in a few thousand volunteers. I figure once it's been in a couple million people for a few months it's safe enough.

That makes sense. I would volunteer for human trials. I'm old though so I'm not risking much.

Me too! I'm in for it - hoping for a super power.

/Pew pew pew


Most likely superpower: Guillain-Barre syndrome
 
2020-05-27 11:18:30 AM  
Can I go to the hospital and laugh at the idiots that said no?
 
2020-05-27 11:30:16 AM  

Charmin Mao Tse-Bung: Who says they'll even get a vaccine? The common cold is usually caused by less virulent coronavirus strains, and no one has been able to solve that one yet.


Who knows.  Maybe this thing will take care of the common cold.
 
2020-05-27 11:38:26 AM  
Look, if it were a psychopathic government, you have a lot of old people who don't really spend money, a lot of poor people with bad diets and suffer from obesity, population is growing fast, automation and AI is cutting into the job market, a lot of people are unhealthy or heading that way, and this disease came up? A psychopathic government would allow it to spread, allow, or even propagate misinformation, open up businesses, don't test or tell the asymptomatic carriers that they are sick, take a long time to shut down borders and cities, delay unemployment benefits, name everyone as essential, open up houses of worship, etc.

I'm glad I have an empathetic government, aren't you?
 
2020-05-27 11:46:14 AM  
I wish I had finished my pharmacology degree. I would love to be on the forefront of the toxicology trials to help beat this shiatty disease into submission.
 
2020-05-27 11:48:19 AM  

Resident Muslim: Look, if it were a psychopathic government, you have a lot of old people who don't really spend money, a lot of poor people with bad diets and suffer from obesity, population is growing fast, automation and AI is cutting into the job market, a lot of people are unhealthy or heading that way, and this disease came up? A psychopathic government would allow it to spread, allow, or even propagate misinformation, open up businesses, don't test or tell the asymptomatic carriers that they are sick, take a long time to shut down borders and cities, delay unemployment benefits, name everyone as essential, open up houses of worship, etc.

I'm glad I have an empathetic government, aren't you?


Are you suggesting the government is intentionally trying to "thin the herd" as it will?
 
2020-05-27 11:48:41 AM  

Bowen: I wouldn't get it right away. There's a reason most vaccines take a decade to develop and it's not because Pfizer hates money. It takes that long to find a safety signal in a few thousand volunteers. I figure once it's been in a couple million people for a few months it's safe enough.


This.

My view on it is the same as reopening.

I'm all for it, but since I'm not in a situation that necessitates immediate action, I want to see how the first movers fare.

I take the same view with OS updates. Serves me well.
 
2020-05-27 11:55:48 AM  
I have too many people around me that are high risk so I'll be in the front of the line. Healthy me can take a chance for those I care about.
 
2020-05-27 12:03:02 PM  
They need to put some tattoo ink the the vaccine.
 
2020-05-27 12:06:27 PM  
Thanks to the overwhelming stupidity of your average American that would be the half that ignored social distancing, hand washing and mask wearing and caught the damn thing already that would refuse the vaccine.
 
2020-05-27 12:12:43 PM  

MasterPython: They need to put some tattoo ink the the vaccine.


NO RAGRATS
 
2020-05-27 12:13:18 PM  
I'm in the "wait until the first round has gone out and see if there are any side effects" camp, because this is being pressured out by the administration. I've been on enough projects that were released prematurely because management over-promised that I know what happens.

On the other hand...I have to ask myself how much I know about the rigors of testing on the flu vaccine I get every year. I don't question it. I don't research it. I just get it. I'm not an anti-vaxer, but my thinking on this particular one gives me insight into the mindset of *some* of them.
 
2020-05-27 12:15:29 PM  

gar1013: MasterPython: They need to put some tattoo ink the the vaccine.

NO RAGRATS


Can we also sterilize anyone who gets a tat?
NO RUGRATS

/jk
//no issues with ink
///just did it for the rugrats joke
 
2020-05-27 12:25:02 PM  

Charmin Mao Tse-Bung: Who says they'll even get a vaccine? The common cold is usually caused by less virulent coronavirus strains, and no one has been able to solve that one yet.


Have you bothered to do a 30 second Google search to understand why the common cold doesn't have a vaccine, and why there's very little research into it?  If you did, you'd have a foundational understanding as to why the vaccine approach is far more likely to be successful here, and why it's being pursued.
 
2020-05-27 12:34:47 PM  

edmo: Half? Damn, them Trumpers are gonna take it to the grave.


Yeah, but just THINK how pwn3d those libs will be!
 
2020-05-27 12:47:13 PM  

Charmin Mao Tse-Bung: Who says they'll even get a vaccine? The common cold is usually caused by less virulent coronavirus strains, and no one has been able to solve that one yet.


There are hundreds of cold viruses, and only a few of them are coronaviruses.
 
2020-05-27 12:51:27 PM  
What's the worse side effect that could happen
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2020-05-27 12:51:51 PM  

Bowen: I wouldn't get it right away. There's a reason most vaccines take a decade to develop and it's not because Pfizer hates money. It takes that long to find a safety signal in a few thousand volunteers. I figure once it's been in a couple million people for a few months it's safe enough.


Whatever. I'll be there on day one and tell the lady, "Well, since half of Americans won't get a vaccine, I'll take two then just to be safe."
 
2020-05-27 12:55:19 PM  
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2020-05-27 1:12:19 PM  
Half the people  don't want a vaccine? Awesome. I'll get mine a lot sooner that way.
 
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