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2020-05-25 10:19:55 PM  
Because it sucked?
 
2020-05-26 12:26:36 AM  
"Learn more."

LOL
 
2020-05-26 1:38:41 AM  

Harry Wagstaff: Because it sucked?


Also b/c it was an unneeded sequel!
 
2020-05-26 1:49:00 AM  

growinthings: Also b/c it was an unneeded sequel!


It wasn't a sequel. It was a reboot, which is even less needed.
 
2020-05-26 1:58:35 AM  

Harry Wagstaff: Because it sucked?



Because it sucked.
 
2020-05-26 3:46:00 AM  
Well, what he said is not wrong.

But it still sucked.
 
2020-05-26 4:04:23 AM  
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They ordered Papa John's.  YOU GUYS ARE IN NEW YORK!!
 
2020-05-26 5:49:24 AM  
There were parts of the movie that weren't THAT terrible....
 
2020-05-26 5:53:10 AM  
Ok, I read several sentences in the article. Turns out, if you didn't like the movie....you're sexist and anti-minority.

/ at least, that's how I'm reading it
 
2020-05-26 7:02:55 AM  
Ghostbusters already had a terrible sequel which should have warned you off trying to catch lightning in a bottle, again.
 
2020-05-26 7:30:06 AM  

iheartscotch: Ok, I read several sentences in the article. Turns out, if you didn't like the movie....you're sexist and anti-minority.

/ at least, that's how I'm reading it


What a brave stand the director took.  If you don't like my awful reboot, you're sexist.

As others have noted, the movie was awful.  Hollywood is out of ideas so they update a movie in a shameless cash grab.  I have never seen a reboot I liked better than the original.  The only movie that might need a reboot is The Highlander.  That's because the movie was awesome but Christopher Lambert's English was awful and they cast a Frenchman as a Scot and a Scot as a Spaniard.
 
2020-05-26 7:30:25 AM  
It's poorly written crap with overuse of CGI?
 
2020-05-26 7:32:58 AM  
What Feig overlooks is that Hillary Clinton got a few million more votes than Trump, so if you believe there is a strong overlap between Clinton voters and fans of crappy remakes that are willing to sit through a horrible movie to prove a SJ point, then there was still a huge potential audience for this movie.

However, people of all political viewpoints didn't bother watching this. Some were willing to waste  $12.00 and 90 + minutes to prove a point, but most people had better things to do.  And there are some people who love crappy movies.  I have a high tolerance for some of them, but I watched this Ghostbusters version for about as long as I watched Jack and Jill.
 
2020-05-26 7:35:02 AM  
It was probably impossible but they should have at least tried to make it R rated. Because it seems like movies where Melissa McCarthy can say "fark" whenever she wants are a lot funnier than movies where she can't.
 
2020-05-26 7:36:47 AM  
Harry Wagstaff:

I wouldn't say it sucked.

It's sin was that it was predictable & boring
 
2020-05-26 7:36:59 AM  
It sucked, but sexism and racism were definitely part of the hate it got.
 
2020-05-26 7:40:05 AM  

iheartscotch: There were parts of the movie that weren't THAT terrible....


McKinnon did her best to be funny in defiance of the script, and Hemsworth was game, but holy shiat is that movie dire. I'm not so sure there's even one scene that really works.


iheartscotch: Ok, I read several sentences in the article. Turns out, if you didn't like the movie....you're sexist and anti-minority.

/ at least, that's how I'm reading it


He's not wrong to note that there was a stupid misogynist backlash against the movie by people who never even gave it a chance, and that this was tied into right-wing US politics. It just also happens that they were being dicks about a movie that was thoroughly, pathetically terrible.
 
2020-05-26 7:43:38 AM  
Fans have always biatched about movies. The new problem is that movie studios, as well as their marketing departments and their defacto cohorts, the film press, are choosing to engage with and report on fans biatching about movies. Movie studios now pay attention to, respond to, and amplify the absolute worst anonymous internet comments in order to drape their corporate products in a cloak of social justice and empowerment while simultaneously being able to deflect legitimate criticism by lumping those who genuinely dislike their films in with the racist, sexist jackasses. It's a marketing strategy. See Ghostbusters (2016), Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017), Captain Marvel (2019), etc.
 
2020-05-26 7:44:36 AM  
The unfunniest part of that movie was the comicbook douchebag.
 
2020-05-26 7:46:24 AM  

LordBeavis: iheartscotch: Ok, I read several sentences in the article. Turns out, if you didn't like the movie....you're sexist and anti-minority.

/ at least, that's how I'm reading it

What a brave stand the director took.  If you don't like my awful reboot, you're sexist.

As others have noted, the movie was awful.  Hollywood is out of ideas so they update a movie in a shameless cash grab.  I have never seen a reboot I liked better than the original.  The only movie that might need a reboot is The Highlander.  That's because the movie was awesome but Christopher Lambert's English was awful and they cast a Frenchman as a Scot and a Scot as a Spaniard.


Don't touch my Highlander. Or I'll reboot Battlestar Galactica...again. but with cats.
 
2020-05-26 7:47:52 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: funny in defiance of the script


There wasn't a script. There was an outline and then they'd shoot 45 minutes of improv to edit into 2 minutes of screentime. The preproduction work on the special effects sequences was in-flight before they even had an outline, and you run into a situation where you need to build your story to specific effects sequences and they end up having no connection to the plot or character beats because you don't know what your plot or character is.

The original Ghostbusters was a lightning in the bottle moment. The same team couldn't recapture what made the original special, and it's no shock that a hack like Feig couldn't either. And it really is Feig who failed. Like, I'm not particularly a fan of anybody they had in the cast, but they've all got a solid comedic record of success, and given the right direction and a decent script, they could have probably done a great job. Nothing would have recaptured the moment of the original, but you could have gotten a serviceably funny sci-fi comedy out of that group. But Feig simply couldn't.
 
2020-05-26 7:49:05 AM  

saywhonow: Don't touch my Highlander.

Highlander

is a bad movie. I loved it when I was a kid, but watching it without nostalgia, it's so awful I needed to buy the Rifftrax to get through it.
 
2020-05-26 7:51:52 AM  
Was there a contingent of complaints that were based solely in sexism and racism?  Yes.

Were there also far more legitimate complaints about the actual merits of the film?  Yes.

Just because a very vocal minority of creeps attacked your movie for bad reasons doesn't fix the poor plot structure, sophomoric humor, and over-reliance on ad-libbing instead of crafting tightly constructed jokes.

Could an all-female Ghostbusters movie have worked?  Absolutely.  Could an all-female Ghostbusters movie with this cast have worked?  Possibly; while I'm not a fan of all of the performers, some of them have some pretty solid talent.  Actually, I'm thinking there really is one main problem from which a lot of the rest of the movie's issues stemmed, and it was in the writer and director's chair: Paul Feig himself.
 
2020-05-26 7:52:19 AM  
I think the thing that killed the film was the 30-40 seconds of screen time where no one was talking. How can you be funny when there's silence?
 
2020-05-26 7:53:21 AM  

t3knomanser: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: funny in defiance of the script

There wasn't a script. There was an outline and then they'd shoot 45 minutes of improv to edit into 2 minutes of screentime. The preproduction work on the special effects sequences was in-flight before they even had an outline, and you run into a situation where you need to build your story to specific effects sequences and they end up having no connection to the plot or character beats because you don't know what your plot or character is.

The original Ghostbusters was a lightning in the bottle moment. The same team couldn't recapture what made the original special, and it's no shock that a hack like Feig couldn't either. And it really is Feig who failed. Like, I'm not particularly a fan of anybody they had in the cast, but they've all got a solid comedic record of success, and given the right direction and a decent script, they could have probably done a great job. Nothing would have recaptured the moment of the original, but you could have gotten a serviceably funny sci-fi comedy out of that group. But Feig simply couldn't.


Damn, I spent too long typing my response.  This, this, this.  Too much ad-libbing and Feig is a hack.
 
2020-05-26 7:56:02 AM  
I watched it hoping it was good and it wasn't, unfortunately the movie was not funny. The cast was wasted because they are very funny.
 
2020-05-26 7:56:39 AM  
Hemsworth's line reading of "Which one makes me look more like a doctor? Me playing the saxophone or me listening to saxophone?" never fails to make me laugh.
 
2020-05-26 7:57:03 AM  
I don't give a fark what you guys think.
I personally thought it was farking great.
The fact that a bunch of man babies cry online like in this thread made me enjoy it
More.
The author is correct Though the whole anti-woman/women in power thing coursing through 2016 was partly responsible.
Seriously I laughed my ass off in this movie.
Wtf is wrong with you stuck up regressive breeder trash?
 
2020-05-26 8:00:19 AM  

LordBeavis: iheartscotch: Ok, I read several sentences in the article. Turns out, if you didn't like the movie....you're sexist and anti-minority.

/ at least, that's how I'm reading it

What a brave stand the director took.  If you don't like my awful reboot, you're sexist.

As others have noted, the movie was awful.  Hollywood is out of ideas so they update a movie in a shameless cash grab.  I have never seen a reboot I liked better than the original.  The only movie that might need a reboot is The Highlander.  That's because the movie was awesome but Christopher Lambert's English was awful and they cast a Frenchman as a Scot and a Scot as a Spaniard.


That's pretty much it. "Birds of Prey" tanked and it's failure was being blamed on misogynistic toxic men even though men made up the majority of the audience when the movie opened!

I tried watching the GB reboot just out of curiosity. I was given it for free for signing up to a streaming service a couple of years ago. One minute and fifty seconds later I turned it off deciding not to watch that trash. Made a joke about PT Barnum enslaving elephants and I'm like, "Nope, not spending my day off on this!"
 
2020-05-26 8:00:53 AM  
Because Tim & Eric-style absurdist, nonsensical comedy isn't NEARLY as funny as people think it is?
 
2020-05-26 8:01:58 AM  
"I think some really brilliant author needs to write a book about 2016 and how intertwined we were with Hillary and the anti-Hillary movement,"

A lousy movie and a lousy candidate, somehow creating an even worse situation by doing poorly than if they had done well.  Either one could have easily overcome misogyny had they been any damn good at what they were supposed to be doing.  Yeah, I said it.  Now go away, the lot of you
 
2020-05-26 8:04:00 AM  
Wow... thanks, Obama
 
2020-05-26 8:08:34 AM  

CT Zeal: Was there a contingent of complaints that were based solely in sexism and racism?  Yes.

Were there also far more legitimate complaints about the actual merits of the film?  Yes.

Just because a very vocal minority of creeps attacked your movie for bad reasons doesn't fix the poor plot structure, sophomoric humor, and over-reliance on ad-libbing instead of crafting tightly constructed jokes.

Could an all-female Ghostbusters movie have worked?  Absolutely.  Could an all-female Ghostbusters movie with this cast have worked?  Possibly; while I'm not a fan of all of the performers, some of them have some pretty solid talent.  Actually, I'm thinking there really is one main problem from which a lot of the rest of the movie's issues stemmed, and it was in the writer and director's chair: Paul Feig himself.


The  thing is that there is a movie by Feig, with McCarthy, that is largely female driven that is very good in Bridesmaids.  Having a bunch of nerds whine about this movie is the best thing that happened for all involved in this production.  It gave them an excuse for why the movie underperformed. Not an excuse that a smart person would believe, but still an excuse one can trot out and be be believed on sites like Jezebel.
 
2020-05-26 8:08:47 AM  
Ah well - there's another Ghostbuster movie coming out soon.
Maybe they will keep cranking one out every few years like that Batman dead horse?
 
2020-05-26 8:18:04 AM  

dababler: I don't give a fark what you guys think.
I personally thought it was farking great.
The fact that a bunch of man babies cry online like in this thread made me enjoy it
More.
The author is correct Though the whole anti-woman/women in power thing coursing through 2016 was partly responsible.
Seriously I laughed my ass off in this movie.


This.

Slapstick, slime, and improv. If you didn't like this movie, you probably don't like Whose Line is it Anyway either. If this movie had come out two years earlier, it would have been successful.

/Anything that makes the sad puppies cry is probably a good thing.
//I like the 13th Doctor and the new Star Wars too. Deal with it.
///Rogue One was better though
 
2020-05-26 8:23:37 AM  
Hollywood pr pays for negative campaigns so they can blame incels for their failures.  There's a reason all of the big lady movie backlashes have centered 100% around absolutely shiat pile movies.  Or the generation that grew up with Leia, Ellen Ripley, and Sarah Conner hate women in movies all of a sudden.  But only women in shiatty movies.

That big dance and musical scene that was set up but never executed at the end cause it didn't work cause it was a stupid shiatty played out idea?  Sexist internet posters made us write that into the script.
 
2020-05-26 8:24:06 AM  
New headline:  Director pisses on movie, is upset because people say it stinks.

/didn't see it
//not into remakes
///didn't hear anything positive about it.
////wife not into comedies
 
2020-05-26 8:29:37 AM  

LordBeavis: iheartscotch: Ok, I read several sentences in the article. Turns out, if you didn't like the movie....you're sexist and anti-minority.

/ at least, that's how I'm reading it

What a brave stand the director took.  If you don't like my awful reboot, you're sexist.

As others have noted, the movie was awful.  Hollywood is out of ideas so they update a movie in a shameless cash grab.  I have never seen a reboot I liked better than the original.  The only movie that might need a reboot is The Highlander.  That's because the movie was awesome but Christopher Lambert's English was awful and they cast a Frenchman as a Scot and a Scot as a Spaniard.

Egyptian. Spain was just the last place he had lived.
 
2020-05-26 8:31:20 AM  

saywhonow: LordBeavis: iheartscotch: Ok, I read several sentences in the article. Turns out, if you didn't like the movie....you're sexist and anti-minority. / at least, that's how I'm reading it What a brave stand the director took.  If you don't like my awful reboot, you're sexist. As others have noted, the movie was awful.  Hollywood is out of ideas so they update a movie in a shameless cash grab.  I have never seen a reboot I liked better than the original.  The only movie that might need a reboot is The Highlander.  That's because the movie was awesome but Christopher Lambert's English was awful and they cast a Frenchman as a Scot and a Scot as a Spaniard. Don't touch my Highlander. Or I'll reboot Battlestar Galactica...again. but with cats.


Highlander...ah. I see you are a person of learning and culture.
Back in college my roomates and I debated the strange allure of this film. We realized after spending the entirety of a semester quoting from it that it was the fact that EVERY character had a ridiculous accent.

A French guy (who couldn't speak English BTW) playing a Scot
A Scot (who arguably also couldn't speak English) playing a Spaniard.
Whatever the fark the Krugan was (gurgling Def Leppard lyrics)
Even the minor characters were over the top..it goes on and on. The farking newspaper man, even:

"What does 'incompetent' mean?'
"What does "baffled" mean?"
 
2020-05-26 8:34:05 AM  

t3knomanser: saywhonow: Don't touch my Highlander.

Highlander is a bad movie. I loved it when I was a kid, but watching it without nostalgia, it's so awful I needed to buy the Rifftrax to get through it.


"Why Garfield? Croozing for a piece of azz?"
 
2020-05-26 8:41:46 AM  

exqqqme: saywhonow: LordBeavis: iheartscotch: Ok, I read several sentences in the article. Turns out, if you didn't like the movie....you're sexist and anti-minority. / at least, that's how I'm reading it What a brave stand the director took.  If you don't like my awful reboot, you're sexist. As others have noted, the movie was awful.  Hollywood is out of ideas so they update a movie in a shameless cash grab.  I have never seen a reboot I liked better than the original.  The only movie that might need a reboot is The Highlander.  That's because the movie was awesome but Christopher Lambert's English was awful and they cast a Frenchman as a Scot and a Scot as a Spaniard. Don't touch my Highlander. Or I'll reboot Battlestar Galactica...again. but with cats.

Highlander...ah. I see you are a person of learning and culture.
Back in college my roomates and I debated the strange allure of this film. We realized after spending the entirety of a semester quoting from it that it was the fact that EVERY character had a ridiculous accent.

A French guy (who couldn't speak English BTW) playing a Scot
A Scot (who arguably also couldn't speak English) playing a Spaniard.
Whatever the fark the Krugan was (gurgling Def Leppard lyrics)
Even the minor characters were over the top..it goes on and on. The farking newspaper man, even:

"What does 'incompetent' mean?'
"What does "baffled" mean?"


Spot on.  The reason I think it might be good for a reboot is that the premise is so good.
 
2020-05-26 8:42:22 AM  

iheartscotch: Ok, I read several sentences in the article. Turns out, if you didn't like the movie....you're sexist and anti-minority.


I did not even bother to go see it.
I must be a serial killer.
 
2020-05-26 8:43:07 AM  
I'll freely admit this brings me into "Old Man Yells At Cloud" territory, but when in the everloving fark did it become a thing to start calling every movie that has a sequel, a franchise?

The Youtube algorithm recently threw up an interview with Harrison Ford about Blade Runner 2049 where the interviewer says, "So Harrison, this is *two* franchises you've returned to recently".

Blade Runner is not a franchise. And Ghostbusters barely qualifies either.
 
2020-05-26 8:45:48 AM  

exqqqme: Whatever the fark the Krugan was (gurgling Def Leppard lyrics)


The Kurgan was a Kurgan.
 
2020-05-26 8:46:13 AM  

dsmith42: LordBeavis: iheartscotch: Ok, I read several sentences in the article. Turns out, if you didn't like the movie....you're sexist and anti-minority.

/ at least, that's how I'm reading it

What a brave stand the director took.  If you don't like my awful reboot, you're sexist.

As others have noted, the movie was awful.  Hollywood is out of ideas so they update a movie in a shameless cash grab.  I have never seen a reboot I liked better than the original.  The only movie that might need a reboot is The Highlander.  That's because the movie was awesome but Christopher Lambert's English was awful and they cast a Frenchman as a Scot and a Scot as a Spaniard. Egyptian. Spain was just the last place he had lived.


Wow.  You are correct!  I just remember Lambert delivering the ultra-cheesy line, "...you Spanish peacock!"
 
2020-05-26 8:46:32 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Hollywood pr pays for negative campaigns so they can blame incels for their failures.  There's a reason all of the big lady movie backlashes have centered 100% around absolutely shiat pile movies.  Or the generation that grew up with Leia, Ellen Ripley, and Sarah Conner hate women in movies all of a sudden.  But only women in shiatty movies.

That big dance and musical scene that was set up but never executed at the end cause it didn't work cause it was a stupid shiatty played out idea?  Sexist internet posters made us write that into the script.


The difference with those movies is that the female leads were there from the beginning.  If those roles had been men and the movies were rebooted with female leads, you would have seen the same "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY MADE ALAN RIPLEY A WOMAN THERE'S NO WAY A WOMAN COULD FIGHT A XENOMORPH AND SURVIVE!" bs.  Ghostbusters was terrible, but the way people treated Leslie Jones in particular speaks volumes about the motivations.
 
2020-05-26 8:47:05 AM  

dababler: I don't give a fark what you guys think.
I personally thought it was farking great.
The fact that a bunch of man babies cry online like in this thread made me enjoy it
More.
The author is correct Though the whole anti-woman/women in power thing coursing through 2016 was partly responsible.
Seriously I laughed my ass off in this movie.
Wtf is wrong with you stuck up regressive breeder trash?


Yeah.... remember back when Tarantino went full beta cuck and made not one but *two* films about a woman.... a farking woman... who can somehow wield a samurai sword?

Man, the internet hated that. It was a shiatshow.
 
2020-05-26 8:50:31 AM  
I enjoyed it, but there were a few parts I found baffling. The first was the demon-ghost in the theatre. I guess I didn't quite understand why the ghosts were evil, and this one was a demon. The second was having Charles Dance as a random boss rather than the Magus of the modern of an ancient Babylonian god.
 
2020-05-26 8:52:49 AM  

Mentat: Champion of the Sun: Hollywood pr pays for negative campaigns so they can blame incels for their failures.  There's a reason all of the big lady movie backlashes have centered 100% around absolutely shiat pile movies.  Or the generation that grew up with Leia, Ellen Ripley, and Sarah Conner hate women in movies all of a sudden.  But only women in shiatty movies.

That big dance and musical scene that was set up but never executed at the end cause it didn't work cause it was a stupid shiatty played out idea?  Sexist internet posters made us write that into the script.

The difference with those movies is that the female leads were there from the beginning.  If those roles had been men and the movies were rebooted with female leads, you would have seen the same "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY MADE ALAN RIPLEY A WOMAN THERE'S NO WAY A WOMAN COULD FIGHT A XENOMORPH AND SURVIVE!" bs.  Ghostbusters was terrible, but the way people treated Leslie Jones in particular speaks volumes about the motivations.


Linda Hamilton played a reboot of Michael Biehn's character from Terminator in the reboot of Terminator.  You may have seen it, T2.  Pretty good movie.
 
2020-05-26 8:55:23 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Mentat: Champion of the Sun: Hollywood pr pays for negative campaigns so they can blame incels for their failures.  There's a reason all of the big lady movie backlashes have centered 100% around absolutely shiat pile movies.  Or the generation that grew up with Leia, Ellen Ripley, and Sarah Conner hate women in movies all of a sudden.  But only women in shiatty movies.

That big dance and musical scene that was set up but never executed at the end cause it didn't work cause it was a stupid shiatty played out idea?  Sexist internet posters made us write that into the script.

The difference with those movies is that the female leads were there from the beginning.  If those roles had been men and the movies were rebooted with female leads, you would have seen the same "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY MADE ALAN RIPLEY A WOMAN THERE'S NO WAY A WOMAN COULD FIGHT A XENOMORPH AND SURVIVE!" bs.  Ghostbusters was terrible, but the way people treated Leslie Jones in particular speaks volumes about the motivations.

Linda Hamilton played a reboot of Michael Biehn's character from Terminator in the reboot of Terminator.  You may have seen it, T2.  Pretty good movie.


Yeah, the special effects where she plowed Sarah Connor were amazing!
 
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