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2020-05-25 2:03:35 PM  
In and around the lake?
 
2020-05-25 2:09:47 PM  
Despite a groundswell in the volume of American-made misinformation in Europe, activists' efforts largely failed to sway public opinion.


But that was hardly the point. For the most part, these groups had another audience in mind: Americans back home.


So, just like the Cold War when we had no intention of helping those behind the Iron Curtain
 
2020-05-25 4:28:02 PM  
Wait, I thought nationalists were only concerned about taking care of their OWN country...
 
2020-05-25 5:23:44 PM  
I guess it's only fair considering how much money the National Front put into our elections...
 
2020-05-25 5:36:22 PM  
I don't see it, Daddy..........BECAUSE IT'S THE BELL, DUMBASS
 
2020-05-25 5:39:02 PM  
I'm sure American made ads in a europe are easy to spot.

"On this election day.. when its a nice crisp 50°F, walk a couple miles to your nearest polling place"
 
2020-05-25 5:48:17 PM  

Butterflew: I'm sure American made ads in a europe are easy to spot.

"On this election day.. when its a nice crisp 50°F, walk a couple miles to your nearest polling place"


Text and/or print ads would also be an easy tell:

"The color of the plow by the curb" as opposed to "The colour of the plough by the kerb."  (yes, why anyone would be talking about ploughs of any colour at any kerb is beyond me, but it was for illustration purposes.)
 
2020-05-25 5:49:40 PM  
Make it illegal and punishable by death
 
2020-05-25 5:50:18 PM  
...Parliament
 
2020-05-25 5:50:28 PM  
For the most part, their efforts failed to get much traction among the French. Part of the reason was the language barrier, as posts were largely in English,

I LOL'ed.
 
2020-05-25 5:55:41 PM  

Louis Toolz: ...Parliament


Funkadelic!
 
2020-05-25 6:01:14 PM  

Cajnik: Despite a groundswell in the volume of American-made misinformation in Europe, activists' efforts largely failed to sway public opinion.


But that was hardly the point. For the most part, these groups had another audience in mind: Americans back home.

So, just like the Cold War when we had no intention of helping those behind the Iron Curtain


That is factually incorrect. There was a lot of effort put into destabilisation and trying to organise resistance efforts in the vein of thought that if enough people of ( insert country name here ) could get together, they might have a chance of, say, killing every single Stasi op and sympathiser, and so on. It just lacked proper funding and a severe lack of having folks living in America work with distant and not so distant relatives there.
Plus it was hard to know who to actually trust ( who was not playing both sides to ensure at least they could get 3 turnips and an onion instead on one and none ) .
I am not saying the effort was right, but at least it was there_was_an_attempt_star.jpg .
I will find no fault with the work that the VOA did however, even when it was full of spooks.
And by spooks I mean people "who were never there, and that torpedo did hit it's target "
 
2020-05-25 6:08:26 PM  
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2020-05-25 6:25:01 PM  
"For the most part, their efforts failed to get much traction among the French. Part of the reason was the language barrier, as posts were largely in English"

LOL.

Trying to appeal to French folks, French Nationalists even, with English language media.

SMH.
 
2020-05-25 6:33:13 PM  

Cajnik: Despite a groundswell in the volume of American-made misinformation in Europe, activists' efforts largely failed to sway public opinion.


But that was hardly the point. For the most part, these groups had another audience in mind: Americans back home.

So, just like the Cold War when we had no intention of helping those behind the Iron Curtain


I would say they're more like the Condor Legion

Since this is a war in the tubes, they're testing out their tactics to see what works before selecting whichever is the most effective and using them later.
 
2020-05-25 6:33:58 PM  
I was told the hackers were the good guys trying to take down the evil corporatists.
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2020-05-25 6:36:42 PM  

Target Builder: "For the most part, their efforts failed to get much traction among the French. Part of the reason was the language barrier, as posts were largely in English"

LOL.

Trying to appeal to French folks, French Nationalists even, with English language media.

SMH.


Apparently the point wasn't to get to the French voters but to get to the American voters through the French campaign.

Or..."We meant to do that, really we did!"

It wasn't a farked up campaign by dunces, paid by idiots, not at all.
 
2020-05-25 6:37:25 PM  

HighOnCraic: In and around the lake?


In and around Greg Lake...

/ Mountains come out of the sky
 
2020-05-25 7:09:36 PM  
It's weird how the anti-(((globalist))) movement is now spreading across the globe, just like membership in the Flat Earth Society...
 
2020-05-25 7:13:26 PM  

HighOnCraic: Wait, I thought nationalists were only concerned about taking care of their OWN country...


They are interested in taking over the world, if not militarily then at the very least with their own bullshiat ideology.
 
2020-05-25 8:30:19 PM  

HighOnCraic: It's weird how the anti-(((globalist))) movement is now spreading across the globe, just like membership in the Flat Earth Society...


Plus there was one Republican a couple of months ago braying that the whole "Cosmopolitan" experiment had failed (or words to that effect)...

Forgetting that cosmopolitanism is all about what happens when you get a lot of people, having to live and work side-by-side, in cities...
 
2020-05-25 8:57:01 PM  

calufrax: HighOnCraic: It's weird how the anti-(((globalist))) movement is now spreading across the globe, just like membership in the Flat Earth Society...

Plus there was one Republican a couple of months ago braying that the whole "Cosmopolitan" experiment had failed (or words to that effect)...

Forgetting that cosmopolitanism is all about what happens when you get a lot of people, having to live and work side-by-side, in cities...


There are still idiots on Fark who claim that the rural areas of the country pay all the taxes and that Europe's social safety net policies are total failures that have crippled them economically.

It's best not to take them seriously, or it would be if they didn't control your government.
 
2020-05-25 10:13:31 PM  

Murkanen: calufrax: ...It's best not to take them seriously, or it would be if they didn't control your government.


Found it. Senator Josh Hawley. His own transcript.

https://www.hawley.senate.gov/senator​-​josh-hawleys-speech-national-conservat​ism-conference

Maddow's take on it: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo​w-sho​w/gop-senator-its-time-we-ended-the-co​smopolitan-experiment
'And then, of course, there was Hawley's stated concerns about "the cosmopolitan experiment."

It was a word the senator returned to, repeatedly, in his remarks. The Republican lamented the "powerful upper class and their cosmopolitan priorities." He condemned "the cosmopolitan consensus," which includes its support for "globalization."
Hawley proceeded to decry the "cosmopolitan elite," the "cosmopolitan class," and the "cosmopolitan economy."
According to his Wikipedia page, the senator has a degree in history from Stanford, so I suspect he has some understanding of the political weight the word "cosmopolitan" carries. If not, he should.
As Jeff Greenfield wrote a couple of years ago, after the White House's Stephen Miller complained about a journalist harboring a "cosmopolitan bias," the word is "a cousin to 'elitist,' but with a more sinister undertone.... In the eyes of their foes, 'cosmopolitans' tend to cluster in the universities, the arts and in urban centers, where familiarity with diversity makes for a high comfort level with 'untraditional' ideas and lives."'
 
2020-05-25 10:22:16 PM  

calufrax: Murkanen: calufrax: ...It's best not to take them seriously, or it would be if they didn't control your government.

Found it. Senator Josh Hawley. His own transcript.

https://www.hawley.senate.gov/senator-​josh-hawleys-speech-national-conservat​ism-conference

Maddow's take on it: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow​-show/gop-senator-its-time-we-ended-th​e-cosmopolitan-experiment
'And then, of course, there was Hawley's stated concerns about "the cosmopolitan experiment."

It was a word the senator returned to, repeatedly, in his remarks. The Republican lamented the "powerful upper class and their cosmopolitan priorities." He condemned "the cosmopolitan consensus," which includes its support for "globalization."
Hawley proceeded to decry the "cosmopolitan elite," the "cosmopolitan class," and the "cosmopolitan economy."
According to his Wikipedia page, the senator has a degree in history from Stanford, so I suspect he has some understanding of the political weight the word "cosmopolitan" carries. If not, he should.
As Jeff Greenfield wrote a couple of years ago, after the White House's Stephen Miller complained about a journalist harboring a "cosmopolitan bias," the word is "a cousin to 'elitist,' but with a more sinister undertone.... In the eyes of their foes, 'cosmopolitans' tend to cluster in the universities, the arts and in urban centers, where familiarity with diversity makes for a high comfort level with 'untraditional' ideas and lives."'


...and yet, how many of these fine social warriors are from those cosmopolitan centers, went to school in them, and cut their teeth on jobs there, making friends and connections to last a lifetime...heck, one of whom flailed his way to the Presidency, at his very core a creature of the city, and unable to function without its sweet embrace.

Yes, they want to convince the plebes that they stand with them. Just waaaaay off a bit, and in a skyrise...with senior partners who were raised in that same setting, and only venturing into the hinterlands where their communities were kept separate to preserve the good country air, and of course, their property values...can't have the townies mucking it up after all...
 
2020-05-25 11:25:54 PM  

iron_city_ap: For the most part, their efforts failed to get much traction among the French. Part of the reason was the language barrier, as posts were largely in English,

I LOL'ed.


Bonjer jew me pell John Luke, jew swee Francis. Jew.... Um..... How do you say "hate foreigners and love fascists?"

To voté pour Vichy governmànt, pour favor?
 
2020-05-26 3:18:04 AM  

Billy Bathsalt: I was told the hackers were the good guys trying to take down the evil corporatists.
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I love the fact that what they are watching is so bright that it projects onto them...
 
2020-05-26 5:28:22 AM  
Sweden has its own issues with nationalists, but one thing I appreciate about living here is that they're not shy about denying visas to assholes from America.

/missed me, somehow
//asshole, not a nationalist
 
2020-05-26 6:14:44 AM  

calufrax: Murkanen: calufrax: ...It's best not to take them seriously, or it would be if they didn't control your government.

Found it. Senator Josh Hawley. His own transcript.

https://www.hawley.senate.gov/senator-​josh-hawleys-speech-national-conservat​ism-conference

Maddow's take on it: http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow​-show/gop-senator-its-time-we-ended-th​e-cosmopolitan-experiment
'And then, of course, there was Hawley's stated concerns about "the cosmopolitan experiment."

It was a word the senator returned to, repeatedly, in his remarks. The Republican lamented the "powerful upper class and their cosmopolitan priorities." He condemned "the cosmopolitan consensus," which includes its support for "globalization."
Hawley proceeded to decry the "cosmopolitan elite," the "cosmopolitan class," and the "cosmopolitan economy."
According to his Wikipedia page, the senator has a degree in history from Stanford, so I suspect he has some understanding of the political weight the word "cosmopolitan" carries. If not, he should.
As Jeff Greenfield wrote a couple of years ago, after the White House's Stephen Miller complained about a journalist harboring a "cosmopolitan bias," the word is "a cousin to 'elitist,' but with a more sinister undertone.... In the eyes of their foes, 'cosmopolitans' tend to cluster in the universities, the arts and in urban centers, where familiarity with diversity makes for a high comfort level with 'untraditional' ideas and lives."'


I thought "cosmopolitan" was a code word for Jew. After thinking about it a few seconds, he was probably aware of that and figured he could get away with it.
 
2020-05-26 8:22:11 AM  
European Vacation - Roundabout
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2020-05-26 8:34:10 AM  

HighOnCraic: It's weird how the anti-(((globalist))) movement is now spreading across the globe, just like membership in the Flat Earth Society...


I swear the Age of Information has led to the Age of the Union of Morons.
 
2020-05-26 9:32:05 AM  

johnphantom: Age of the Union of Morons.


Change that to Age of the Platforming of Morons.
 
2020-05-26 11:37:41 AM  

johnphantom: HighOnCraic: It's weird how the anti-(((globalist))) movement is now spreading across the globe, just like membership in the Flat Earth Society...

I swear the Age of Information has led to the Age of the Union of Morons.


A lot of the European nationalists are highly skeptical about cooperating with Europeans from other countries, so uniting them all seems like a daunting task.

/I don't wish them luck!
 
2020-05-26 11:44:25 AM  

HighOnCraic: johnphantom: HighOnCraic: It's weird how the anti-(((globalist))) movement is now spreading across the globe, just like membership in the Flat Earth Society...

I swear the Age of Information has led to the Age of the Union of Morons.

A lot of the European nationalists are highly skeptical about cooperating with Europeans from other countries, so uniting them all seems like a daunting task.

/I don't wish them luck!


No I was talking about the below average person having a platform now to get other below average thinking people. This whole thing with Trump and the right wing fascism popping up around the world is about them being "Right" for once in their pitiful moronic ways, make no mistake about it. And right wing conservative ideology is "Always Me but never You!", make no mistake about that either.
 
2020-05-27 2:29:39 AM  

johnphantom: HighOnCraic: It's weird how the anti-(((globalist))) movement is now spreading across the globe, just like membership in the Flat Earth Society...

I swear the Age of Information has led to the Age of the Union of Morons.


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2020-05-27 2:47:00 AM  

johnphantom: HighOnCraic: johnphantom: HighOnCraic: It's weird how the anti-(((globalist))) movement is now spreading across the globe, just like membership in the Flat Earth Society...

I swear the Age of Information has led to the Age of the Union of Morons.

A lot of the European nationalists are highly skeptical about cooperating with Europeans from other countries, so uniting them all seems like a daunting task.

/I don't wish them luck!

No I was talking about the below average person having a platform now to get other below average thinking people. This whole thing with Trump and the right wing fascism popping up around the world is about them being "Right" for once in their pitiful moronic ways, make no mistake about it. And right wing conservative ideology is "Always Me but never You!", make no mistake about that either.


It seems similar to die-hard Knicks fans, die-hard Bulls fans, die-hard Celtics fans, and die-hard Sixers fans trying to get together to unite against people who just like watching all NBA games for the fun of it.
 
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