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(Washington Post)   Sad: Cuban-American author H. G. Carrillo, who wrote extensively about his immigrant experience, dies of COVID. Fark: after his death it was found "Carrillo" was born Herman Moore in Detroit and had no Cuban ancestry   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2020-05-25 12:00:25 AM  
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2020-05-25 12:06:54 AM  
More like Herman "Wouk" amirite
 
2020-05-25 12:16:38 AM  
This writer should be applauded for his skills.
 
2020-05-25 12:25:27 AM  
Honestly never heard of him but that piece was fascinating.
 
2020-05-25 12:35:58 AM  
¡Ay caramba!
 
2020-05-25 12:41:18 AM  

Sgygus: This writer should be applauded for his skills.


Gonna have to clap pretty loud now.
 
2020-05-25 1:10:04 AM  
Wow. That's pretty surreal.
 
2020-05-25 4:27:00 AM  
Reminds me of that famous jazz musician who died and only at the autopsy was it discovered that he wasn't male.

She had been living as a man for decades, married several times (to women), had kids (adopted) and so on, and no one ever suspected he was actually a woman.
 
2020-05-25 4:34:40 AM  
And he pretty much had to do it because of the prevailing liberal idea that no matter how entrenched in a culture you are, if you're not ethnically connected to the culture, you're not a part of that culture.

/Especially if your skin is too light, you have a penis, or are a heterosexual.
 
2020-05-25 5:09:05 AM  
So, the Elizabeth Warren of literature.
 
2020-05-25 6:06:16 AM  

IlGreven: And he pretty much had to do it because of the prevailing liberal idea that no matter how entrenched in a culture you are, if you're not ethnically connected to the culture, you're not a part of that culture.

/Especially if your skin is too light, you have a penis, or are a heterosexual.


Or maybe he did it because grievance porn sells.
 
2020-05-25 6:06:54 AM  

IlGreven: And he pretty much had to do it because of the prevailing liberal idea that no matter how entrenched in a culture you are, if you're not ethnically connected to the culture, you're not a part of that culture.

/Especially if your skin is too light, you have a penis, or are a heterosexual.


Finally, I'm on the trifecta.
 
2020-05-25 6:08:10 AM  
i'll never know, wapo
 
2020-05-25 6:14:35 AM  

IlGreven: And he pretty much had to do it because of the prevailing liberal idea that no matter how entrenched in a culture you are, if you're not ethnically connected to the culture, you're not a part of that culture.

/Especially if your skin is too light, you have a penis, or are a heterosexual.


It's offensive because if you are a part of a more priviledged ethnic group in this country, no matter how 'entrenched' you are within a discriminated against subculture, you always have the option to leave the trench.
 
2020-05-25 6:20:51 AM  
Jackie Marks approves

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2020-05-25 6:48:01 AM  
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Totes understands...
 
2020-05-25 7:09:30 AM  

Snapper Carr: Jackie Marks approves

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as does 'Helen Demidenko'

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2020-05-25 7:13:05 AM  
Can't ever beat that Holocaust survivor who was raised by wolves tho.
 
2020-05-25 7:21:34 AM  
Somewhere Nella Larson is nodding and smiling.
 
2020-05-25 7:23:08 AM  

IlGreven: And he pretty much had to do it because of the prevailing liberal idea that no matter how entrenched in a culture you are, if you're not ethnically connected to the culture, you're not a part of that culture.

/Especially if your skin is too light, you have a penis, or are a heterosexual.


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2020-05-25 7:31:30 AM  
 
2020-05-25 7:32:15 AM  

IlGreven: And he pretty much had to do it because of the prevailing liberal idea that no matter how entrenched in a culture you are, if you're not ethnically connected to the culture, you're not a part of that culture.

/Especially if your skin is too light, you have a penis, or are a heterosexual.


What the hell, man?  You can't say such things here on Fark!  Feelings will get hurt.  The racist who are not racist because white people, right? are going to come in here and start calling you all kinds of nasty things.
 
2020-05-25 7:33:32 AM  
Loosing his Espanish backstory.
 
2020-05-25 7:38:12 AM  
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RIP
 
2020-05-25 7:38:59 AM  
Libs cancel Jesus for light skin, presence of penis or heterosexuality

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2020-05-25 7:41:13 AM  
Looking for Herman Moore Detroit Lions reference.  Almost left unsatisfied.
 
2020-05-25 7:45:29 AM  
Everybody from Detroit knows Herman Moore, he is a legend


Cythraul: IlGreven: And he pretty much had to do it because of the prevailing liberal idea that no matter how entrenched in a culture you are, if you're not ethnically connected to the culture, you're not a part of that culture.

/Especially if your skin is too light, you have a penis, or are a heterosexual.

It's offensive because if you are a part of a more priviledged ethnic group in this country, no matter how 'entrenched' you are within a discriminated against subculture, you always have the option to leave the trench.


Yeah, but then a certain section of the left wing Karens say if you are part of the "privileged"  group you can't wear hoop earring or twerk. They demand a certain separation of cultures which is not only bizarre and impossible, but sounds downright authoritarian and in the end supremacist.

Sometimes they have a point, but much of the time, they come off as moral scolds. It does get disgusting when you see a chode with a Ghandi compex cosplaying being an Indian

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2020-05-25 7:57:54 AM  
These days if you twerk certain section of the left wing Karens will arrest you and throw you in jail
 
2020-05-25 8:10:31 AM  
The Rachel Dolezal of literature?
 
2020-05-25 8:17:31 AM  

Eightballjacket: Everybody from Detroit knows Herman Moore, he is a legend


Cythraul: IlGreven: And he pretty much had to do it because of the prevailing liberal idea that no matter how entrenched in a culture you are, if you're not ethnically connected to the culture, you're not a part of that culture.

/Especially if your skin is too light, you have a penis, or are a heterosexual.

It's offensive because if you are a part of a more priviledged ethnic group in this country, no matter how 'entrenched' you are within a discriminated against subculture, you always have the option to leave the trench.

Yeah, but then a certain section of the left wing Karens say if you are part of the "privileged"  group you can't wear hoop earring or twerk. They demand a certain separation of cultures which is not only bizarre and impossible, but sounds downright authoritarian and in the end supremacist.

Sometimes they have a point, but much of the time, they come off as moral scolds. It does get disgusting when you see a chode with a Ghandi compex cosplaying being an Indian

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I see you've got Trudeau figured out. Now do Trump
 
2020-05-25 8:31:53 AM  
That's because he knew all the great writers, from Wells to Bissinger, used the initials H.G.
Signed,
H.G. CarnySaur.
 
2020-05-25 8:54:55 AM  
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Hey, fellas! What's going on in here?
 
2020-05-25 9:01:22 AM  

Lipspinach: Eightballjacket: Everybody from Detroit knows Herman Moore, he is a legend


Cythraul: IlGreven: And he pretty much had to do it because of the prevailing liberal idea that no matter how entrenched in a culture you are, if you're not ethnically connected to the culture, you're not a part of that culture.

/Especially if your skin is too light, you have a penis, or are a heterosexual.

It's offensive because if you are a part of a more priviledged ethnic group in this country, no matter how 'entrenched' you are within a discriminated against subculture, you always have the option to leave the trench.

Yeah, but then a certain section of the left wing Karens say if you are part of the "privileged"  group you can't wear hoop earring or twerk. They demand a certain separation of cultures which is not only bizarre and impossible, but sounds downright authoritarian and in the end supremacist.

Sometimes they have a point, but much of the time, they come off as moral scolds. It does get disgusting when you see a chode with a Ghandi compex cosplaying being an Indian

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I see you've got Trudeau figured out. Now do Trump


Trump cosplays as being a successful business man.
 
2020-05-25 9:02:09 AM  

thefatbasturd: [Fark user image image 425x380]Hey, fellas! What's going on in here?


You got something against transracial people?
 
2020-05-25 9:04:35 AM  

LaChanz: IlGreven: And he pretty much had to do it because of the prevailing liberal idea that no matter how entrenched in a culture you are, if you're not ethnically connected to the culture, you're not a part of that culture.

/Especially if your skin is too light, you have a penis, or are a heterosexual.

What the hell, man?  You can't say such things here on Fark!  Feelings will get hurt.  The racist who are not racist because white people, right? are going to come in here and start calling you all kinds of nasty things.


Stop being nasty human beings and we won't have to call you all the nasty things you and your ilk deserve to be called.
 
2020-05-25 9:19:13 AM  

thefatbasturd: [Fark user image image 425x380]Hey, fellas! What's going on in here?


A lot of the usual hate as far as I can tell.
 
2020-05-25 9:22:07 AM  

Lipspinach: Eightballjacket: Everybody from Detroit knows Herman Moore, he is a legend


Cythraul: IlGreven: And he pretty much had to do it because of the prevailing liberal idea that no matter how entrenched in a culture you are, if you're not ethnically connected to the culture, you're not a part of that culture.

/Especially if your skin is too light, you have a penis, or are a heterosexual.

It's offensive because if you are a part of a more priviledged ethnic group in this country, no matter how 'entrenched' you are within a discriminated against subculture, you always have the option to leave the trench.

Yeah, but then a certain section of the left wing Karens say if you are part of the "privileged"  group you can't wear hoop earring or twerk. They demand a certain separation of cultures which is not only bizarre and impossible, but sounds downright authoritarian and in the end supremacist.

Sometimes they have a point, but much of the time, they come off as moral scolds. It does get disgusting when you see a chode with a Ghandi compex cosplaying being an Indian

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I see you've got Trudeau figured out. Now do Trump


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The topic was cultural appropriation.  Anyway, if it were Trump in India, he would have rambled about Elizabeth Warren claiming she was one of "you people"
 
2020-05-25 9:30:14 AM  

silvervial: Reminds me of that famous jazz musician who died and only at the autopsy was it discovered that he wasn't male.

She had been living as a man for decades, married several times (to women), had kids (adopted) and so on, and no one ever suspected he was actually a woman.


Billy Tipton. Not sure how famous he was. There was a great biography of him.
 
2020-05-25 9:33:27 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: thefatbasturd: [Fark user image image 425x380]Hey, fellas! What's going on in here?

You got something against transracial people?


Yes...
 
2020-05-25 9:45:08 AM  
Cubans are racially and culturally "white", though.  We decided this during the late 1800s when we were arbitrarily picking countries to be racist against for some reason ("some reason = business ties during the American Fruit years), then doubled down on that classification when the revolution happened for political reasons.  Which is... no less arbitrary than how any other random group ever got the label, so they're white and white people can culturally appropriate, sorry.

The reason we're supposed to be bigoted against them is that they're Catholic.

// I really wish the above was 100% a joke instead of being 10% a joke and 90% an actual explanation of race theory and the history of the US's official stances on racial matters, such as they are.
 
2020-05-25 9:46:12 AM  
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2020-05-25 10:14:31 AM  

IlGreven: And he pretty much had to do it because of the prevailing liberal idea that no matter how entrenched in a culture you are, if you're not ethnically connected to the culture, you're not a part of that culture.

/Especially if your skin is too light, you have a penis, or are a heterosexual.


There's nothing white men won't steal. Land, resources, lives, identities.
 
2020-05-25 10:18:23 AM  
All over the world, basement keyboards are getting a pounding...
 
2020-05-25 10:24:18 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Cubans are racially and culturally "white", though.  We decided this during the late 1800s when we were arbitrarily picking countries to be racist against for some reason ("some reason = business ties during the American Fruit years), then doubled down on that classification when the revolution happened for political reasons.  Which is... no less arbitrary than how any other random group ever got the label, so they're white and white people can culturally appropriate, sorry.

The reason we're supposed to be bigoted against them is that they're Catholic.

// I really wish the above was 100% a joke instead of being 10% a joke and 90% an actual explanation of race theory and the history of the US's official stances on racial matters, such as they are.


I work with three Cubans. Two, now. One filed an EEO complaint that a joke one of the others told and a supervisor laughed at made him uncomfortable (yes,it was a joke about Cubans). He got a transfer of his choosing as a result.

The federal government recognized him as Cuban, Cuban as some form of racial protected class, and acted accordingly.

I have no idea what you are talking about historically, but I've not seen any evidence in the last decade of government employment.


Now, there are areas of government that call them (and all Hispanics and Latinos) white, like criminal databases. Is that what you meant?
 
2020-05-25 10:28:18 AM  
"It was a story he told me," vanEngelsdorp said Saturday. He sighed and said: "I mean, he was a storyteller."

Interesting euphemism for "fraud".
 
2020-05-25 10:29:05 AM  

hoodiowithtudio: silvervial: Reminds me of that famous jazz musician who died and only at the autopsy was it discovered that he wasn't male. [...]
Billy Tipton. Not sure how famous he was. There was a great biography of him.


Cecil Adams tells part of the story of Billy Tipton here.  Crazy stuff.
 
2020-05-25 10:36:56 AM  

NuclearPenguins: LaChanz: IlGreven: And he pretty much had to do it because of the prevailing liberal idea that no matter how entrenched in a culture you are, if you're not ethnically connected to the culture, you're not a part of that culture.

/Especially if your skin is too light, you have a penis, or are a heterosexual.

What the hell, man?  You can't say such things here on Fark!  Feelings will get hurt.  The racist who are not racist because white people, right? are going to come in here and start calling you all kinds of nasty things.

Stop being nasty human beings and we won't have to call you all the nasty things you and your ilk deserve to be called.


Thank you for proving my point douchebag.
 
2020-05-25 10:45:14 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Cubans are racially and culturally "white", though.  We decided this during the late 1800s when we were arbitrarily picking countries to be racist against for some reason ("some reason = business ties during the American Fruit years), then doubled down on that classification when the revolution happened for political reasons.  Which is... no less arbitrary than how any other random group ever got the label, so they're white and white people can culturally appropriate, sorry.

The reason we're supposed to be bigoted against them is that they're Catholic.

// I really wish the above was 100% a joke instead of being 10% a joke and 90% an actual explanation of race theory and the history of the US's official stances on racial matters, such as they are.


There are plenty of people in Cuba and the rest of the south of the border areas whose entire family tree goes back to Europe and look no different from Southern Europeans.  And there are also plenty of people whose entire family tree goes back to Africa.  And plenty of people who have most of their family tree going back to those who were there before Columbus.  And plenty of people with all sorts of different mixes of the three.
 
2020-05-25 10:47:44 AM  

LewDux: Libs cancel Jesus for light skin, presence of penis or heterosexuality

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2020-05-25 11:12:47 AM  

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RIP


this took too long
 
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