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2020-05-24 11:54:43 PM  
Adult leadership - wonderful concept. We should try it.
 
2020-05-24 11:58:04 PM  
Missed the chance to get 'unshakeable' in the headline there.

Seriously she is really impressive in all circumstances. Look forward to voting her back in by a mile later in the year.
 
2020-05-25 12:20:16 AM  
That was a nice little rumble this morning, scared the cats
 
2020-05-25 12:30:50 AM  
Yep.... felt it here in Golden Bay this morning.
 
2020-05-25 12:31:47 AM  

gaspode: Missed the chance to get 'unshakeable' in the headline there.

Seriously she is really impressive in all circumstances. Look forward to voting her back in by a mile later in the year.


word!

:: fist bump emoji ::
 
2020-05-25 12:42:28 AM  
Quick info-drop for our overseas friends who don't watch NZ's fascinating (lol) politics..

The opposition leader (Simon 'One Lane' Bridges) spent the lockdown trying to score points off the PM, and the public hated him so much (4.5% favourable rating) for it his own side rolled him 4 months ahead of a general election.
 
2020-05-25 12:55:34 AM  
Do you need a time out, Mr. President?

Would you like a juice box?

Is it time for your nap?


Fake news. Disgraceful liberal media. They're all out to get me. They shiat my pants. You're the poopy head and you shiat your pants and your pants are full of elephant dung.
 
2020-05-25 12:58:01 AM  
Worst treated President ever! Only I can clean up the gigantic mess left to me in the form of the longest Bull market, lowest interest rates and fullest employment by President Poopy Head. All the other countries are cheating and lying and trying to kill us every second of the day and night! Canada is plotting to invade us with UNO blue caps! Mexico has been moving the border when we aren't paying attention.
 
2020-05-25 12:59:34 AM  
Justin Trudeau.

He is smart enough and good enough and dammit people like him!
 
2020-05-25 1:01:43 AM  
Trump's dying words:  What are my ratings? I used to have the best ratings. When I did that show where I played the guy who fired everybody, I had great ratings. Governor Swartzenegger had lousy ratings.

Remember that? "You're fired!" That was my famous line. I had the best words. Now they call me an aging, demented ham actor who is a prima donna and obsessed with his declining libido and ratings. Can you imagine that? The nurses are stealing my Sudafed stash.
 
2020-05-25 1:20:34 AM  
He is not a man.
 
2020-05-25 1:30:03 AM  

gaspode: Quick info-drop for our overseas friends who don't watch NZ's fascinating (lol) politics..

The opposition leader (Simon 'One Lane' Bridges) spent the lockdown trying to score points off the PM, and the public hated him so much (4.5% favourable rating) for it his own side rolled him 4 months ahead of a general election.


I've become a huge fan of Jacinda's since her response to the Christchurch massacre, and literally everything she does makes me think, "She should be world president!" I was dumbfounded that she was trending towards losing control of Parliament prior to the lockdown.

My impression is that the National Party has always been great at sniping from the peanut gallery, but awful at actual governance because it has no actual philosophy.
 
2020-05-25 1:38:20 AM  

brantgoose: Trump's dying words:  What are my ratings? I used to have the best ratings. When I did that show where I played the guy who fired everybody, I had great ratings. Governor Swartzenegger had lousy ratings.

Remember that? "You're fired!" That was my famous line. I had the best words. Now they call me an aging, demented ham actor who is a prima donna and obsessed with his declining libido and ratings. Can you imagine that? The nurses are stealing my Sudafed stash.


What's the over/under on the number of Newspapers that have that as their headline Nov 3?
 
2020-05-25 1:43:25 AM  

Learned Hand Job: gaspode: Quick info-drop for our overseas friends who don't watch NZ's fascinating (lol) politics..

The opposition leader (Simon 'One Lane' Bridges) spent the lockdown trying to score points off the PM, and the public hated him so much (4.5% favourable rating) for it his own side rolled him 4 months ahead of a general election.

I've become a huge fan of Jacinda's since her response to the Christchurch massacre, and literally everything she does makes me think, "She should be world president!" I was dumbfounded that she was trending towards losing control of Parliament prior to the lockdown.

My impression is that the National Party has always been great at sniping from the peanut gallery, but awful at actual governance because it has no actual philosophy.


sure they do: cut taxes for the wealthy and gut social services, healthcare and DOC. Neoliberalism 101

/ Nats suck! Go Jacinda!
 
2020-05-25 1:49:34 AM  

Learned Hand Job: gaspode: Quick info-drop for our overseas friends who don't watch NZ's fascinating (lol) politics..

The opposition leader (Simon 'One Lane' Bridges) spent the lockdown trying to score points off the PM, and the public hated him so much (4.5% favourable rating) for it his own side rolled him 4 months ahead of a general election.

I've become a huge fan of Jacinda's since her response to the Christchurch massacre, and literally everything she does makes me think, "She should be world president!" I was dumbfounded that she was trending towards losing control of Parliament prior to the lockdown.

My impression is that the National Party has always been great at sniping from the peanut gallery, but awful at actual governance because it has no actual philosophy.


Saying you will cut taxes and saying you will cut wasteful spending, is one of those things that gets into people's weak points. Of course its not usually sincere anyway, cutting waste usually means cutting essential services and gutting the environment, and cutting taxes somehow never leaves ordinary folks with more money but its a seductive lie, and once in power you just go on and on about the stock market and 'productivity' till the next election.

FWIW I don't think they were going to lose at all but it would have been close. Now it wont.
 
2020-05-25 3:10:48 AM  
Nice chance for me to update my list of Kiwi Farkers.
 
2020-05-25 3:57:16 AM  

gaspode: Learned Hand Job: gaspode: Quick info-drop for our overseas friends who don't watch NZ's fascinating (lol) politics..

The opposition leader (Simon 'One Lane' Bridges) spent the lockdown trying to score points off the PM, and the public hated him so much (4.5% favourable rating) for it his own side rolled him 4 months ahead of a general election.

I've become a huge fan of Jacinda's since her response to the Christchurch massacre, and literally everything she does makes me think, "She should be world president!" I was dumbfounded that she was trending towards losing control of Parliament prior to the lockdown.

My impression is that the National Party has always been great at sniping from the peanut gallery, but awful at actual governance because it has no actual philosophy.

Saying you will cut taxes and saying you will cut wasteful spending, is one of those things that gets into people's weak points. Of course its not usually sincere anyway, cutting waste usually means cutting essential services and gutting the environment, and cutting taxes somehow never leaves ordinary folks with more money but its a seductive lie, and once in power you just go on and on about the stock market and 'productivity' till the next election.

FWIW I don't think they were going to lose at all but it would have been close. Now it wont.


I think even National Party leaning Kiwis have been impressed with how well she's dealt with the crisis. Most of the criticism has been in the nit-picking category.

Helped of course by contrast with the highly publicized cockups internationally.

(And the new National Party leader started with a pic showing a MAGA hat in the background. Tried to excuse it as 'political memorabilia' but failed to understand it was the equivalent of having some Nazi insignia there)
 
2020-05-25 3:59:52 AM  
The NYT article I read the other day lauded NZ's multi-vote system which allowed small parties to get to the table.

But looks like the two minor parties - Greens and Winston-Peters-personal-party - are going to be washed away in November and Labour will govern alone.
 
2020-05-25 5:44:00 AM  

Learned Hand Job: I've become a huge fan of Jacinda's since her response to the Christchurch massacre


Collective Punishment: It's OK when We Do It!
 
2020-05-25 5:50:48 AM  
That's about how I would have responded to that quake - live in Wellington for long enough (especially if you were raised there) and they are just a fact of life like the weather that you have to deal with. Typical Wellingtonian reaction would be something along the lines of pausing and saying "huh, that was a good one"
 
2020-05-25 5:52:24 AM  
I listen to her and I envy you all in NZ. She's such a good and capable leader and someone you can really be proud of.

We have a guy who stands like a centaur, speaks like an idiot, and walks around with toilet paper stuck to his shoe.
 
2020-05-25 5:53:28 AM  
Who needs boring smart sane presidents anyway??
 
2020-05-25 5:54:35 AM  
What does being a man have to do with Donald Trump?
 
2020-05-25 5:59:31 AM  

NotCodger: Adult leadership - wonderful concept. We should try it.


We tried that. Millions of infantile adults hated it do much they voted for a cranky toddler in an ill-fitting suit in 2016.
 
2020-05-25 6:05:31 AM  

Man On Pink Corner: Learned Hand Job: I've become a huge fan of Jacinda's since her response to the Christchurch massacre

Collective Punishment: It's OK when We Do It!


I find it fascinating you think what was done was done as a punishment.

It certainly reveals quite a lot about how you view the world.
 
2020-05-25 6:19:29 AM  
I started out going 'what collective punishment? What is he even on about?'

Then had a moment of clarity, I assume he is a gun nut?
 
2020-05-25 6:20:10 AM  
I can only find a version of this article in French, but just run it through Google Translate if you can't read French....

Women are demonstrably the best at actually leading nations through chaos: 

https://www.lesnouvellesnews.fr/les-f​e​mmes-dirigeantes-meilleures-que-les-ho​mmes-face-a-la-pandemie/
 
2020-05-25 6:24:00 AM  

NotCodger: Adult leadership - wonderful concept. We should try it.


We could do with some of that here in the UK, too. A lot of it. We're at 'even the Daily Mail is calling out Boris Johnson' levels of fark-uppery:

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/Dibs on Arden
 
2020-05-25 6:26:54 AM  
Well, subs, if you can't tell the difference between "Trump" and "men" I'm not sure I can help you.

Someone post the xkcd
 
2020-05-25 6:31:39 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: NotCodger: Adult leadership - wonderful concept. We should try it.

We tried that. Millions of infantile adults hated it do much they voted for a cranky toddler in an ill-fitting suit in 2016.


777,444 assholes in the midwest. Not a majority.

HRC won the popular vote.
 
2020-05-25 6:32:47 AM  
I'll be very happy to vote for Labour again in September. Jacinda has been incredible. As has the entire public service. Gold star to whoever came up with the alert level system - I think they cribbed it from Singapore, but it was a masterstroke in providing certainty and clarity.

Also I'd be disappointed if Dr Bloomfield isn't recognised in the Queens Birthday honours next week.
 
2020-05-25 6:33:19 AM  

mrparks: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: NotCodger: Adult leadership - wonderful concept. We should try it.

We tried that. Millions of infantile adults hated it do much they voted for a cranky toddler in an ill-fitting suit in 2016.

777,444 assholes in the midwest. Not a majority.

HRC won the popular vote.


77,744. My bad. It is currently both late night and early morning.
 
2020-05-25 6:38:09 AM  

mrparks: mrparks: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: NotCodger: Adult leadership - wonderful concept. We should try it.

We tried that. Millions of infantile adults hated it do much they voted for a cranky toddler in an ill-fitting suit in 2016.

777,444 assholes in the midwest. Not a majority.

HRC won the popular vote.

77,744. My bad. It is currently both late night and early morning.


So you're right about the margin and all, but that doesn't change the fact that literal millions of farking idiots did vote Baron von farkwit.
 
2020-05-25 6:39:51 AM  

thisispete: I'll be very happy to vote for Labour again in September. Jacinda has been incredible. As has the entire public service. Gold star to whoever came up with the alert level system - I think they cribbed it from Singapore, but it was a masterstroke in providing certainty and clarity.

Also I'd be disappointed if Dr Bloomfield isn't recognised in the Queens Birthday honours next week.


Id wait till next year, right now it might appear a bit too celebratory too early
 
2020-05-25 6:45:42 AM  
Subby, if you're implying that Donald Trump is a typical adult male, I *will* hurt you.  Them's fightin' words!

/as opposed to 'futon words', which signal that it's time for a nap.
 
2020-05-25 6:55:48 AM  

ababyatemydingo: brantgoose: Trump's dying words:  What are my ratings? I used to have the best ratings. When I did that show where I played the guy who fired everybody, I had great ratings. Governor Swartzenegger had lousy ratings.

Remember that? "You're fired!" That was my famous line. I had the best words. Now they call me an aging, demented ham actor who is a prima donna and obsessed with his declining libido and ratings. Can you imagine that? The nurses are stealing my Sudafed stash.

What's the over/under on the number of Newspapers that have that as their headline Nov 3?


Zero because unfortunately this shiatbag is gonna win again
 
2020-05-25 6:56:23 AM  

Mahatma Gandalf: NotCodger: Adult leadership - wonderful concept. We should try it.

We could do with some of that here in the UK, too. A lot of it. We're at 'even the Daily Mail is calling out Boris Johnson' levels of fark-uppery:

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/Dibs on Arden


♫ I saddled up and away I did go. Riding alone in the daaaaaaaaaaaark ♫

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2020-05-25 6:56:33 AM  
Apparently Donald Trump is No True (scots)Man.

\My male pride has been hurt, someone kiss it better!
 
2020-05-25 7:05:23 AM  
Remember when Stephen Colbert visited her in NZ and she picked him up at the airport and drove him (ie actually drove the car, let him play with her phone and everything) back to her house in the suburbs and her boyfriend cooked a bbq in the backyard?  That was ace.
 
2020-05-25 7:07:18 AM  

ababyatemydingo: brantgoose: Trump's dying words:  What are my ratings? I used to have the best ratings. When I did that show where I played the guy who fired everybody, I had great ratings. Governor Swartzenegger had lousy ratings.

Remember that? "You're fired!" That was my famous line. I had the best words. Now they call me an aging, demented ham actor who is a prima donna and obsessed with his declining libido and ratings. Can you imagine that? The nurses are stealing my Sudafed stash.

What's the over/under on the number of Newspapers that have that as their headline Nov 3?


I'd bet the NY Post had that entire layout done in 2016 and just held on to it for when it does happen.
 
2020-05-25 7:18:09 AM  

ababyatemydingo: brantgoose: Trump's dying words:  What are my ratings? I used to have the best ratings. When I did that show where I played the guy who fired everybody, I had great ratings. Governor Swartzenegger had lousy ratings.

Remember that? "You're fired!" That was my famous line. I had the best words. Now they call me an aging, demented ham actor who is a prima donna and obsessed with his declining libido and ratings. Can you imagine that? The nurses are stealing my Sudafed stash.

What's the over/under on the number of Newspapers that have that as their headline Nov 3?


If fewer than a dozen papers DON'T use "Unpresidented" if he loses in November, I will be very, very disappointed.

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2020-05-25 7:19:04 AM  

gaspode: I started out going 'what collective punishment? What is he even on about?'

Then had a moment of clarity, I assume he is a gun nut?


You don't need to be a gun nut to have problems with a hastily passed ban. New Zealand had one of the lowest firearm homicide rates on Earth of all the ways to have handled a mass shooting depriving people of their legally purchased property should be seen as the last resort. Instead it was seen as the only option which fails to take into account that previously mentioned miniscule homicide rate indicating that this is an extreme anomaly.
 
2020-05-25 7:32:04 AM  
Yay sexism
 
2020-05-25 7:40:48 AM  

gaspode: I started out going 'what collective punishment? What is he even on about?'

Then had a moment of clarity, I assume he is a gun nut?


I suspect he is referring to the increased gun regulation as a 'punishment', yes.

Hard to tell, though, dude makes less sense than Foul 'Ol Ron.

/Millenium Hand Shrimp
 
2020-05-25 7:42:25 AM  
She's also fit AF.
 
2020-05-25 7:42:55 AM  

phenn: Mahatma Gandalf: NotCodger: Adult leadership - wonderful concept. We should try it.

We could do with some of that here in the UK, too. A lot of it. We're at 'even the Daily Mail is calling out Boris Johnson' levels of fark-uppery:

[Fark user image 410x555]

/Dibs on Arden

♫ I saddled up and away I did go. Riding alone in the daaaaaaaaaaaark ♫

[Fark user image image 620x387]


Anyway, here's Wankerwall...
 
2020-05-25 7:45:05 AM  

bloobeary: He is not a man.


This
He could totally kill the witch king of angmar
Because he is no man

/by kill i mean piss and crap his pants while stumbling away weeping in terror
 
2020-05-25 7:45:41 AM  

Felgraf: gaspode: I started out going 'what collective punishment? What is he even on about?'

Then had a moment of clarity, I assume he is a gun nut?

I suspect he is referring to the increased gun regulation as a 'punishment', yes.

Hard to tell, though, dude makes less sense than Foul 'Ol Ron.

/Millenium Hand Shrimp


woof
 
2020-05-25 7:49:44 AM  

gaspode: Felgraf: gaspode: I started out going 'what collective punishment? What is he even on about?'

Then had a moment of clarity, I assume he is a gun nut?

I suspect he is referring to the increased gun regulation as a 'punishment', yes.

Hard to tell, though, dude makes less sense than Foul 'Ol Ron.

/Millenium Hand Shrimp

woof


What duck?
 
2020-05-25 8:23:14 AM  

RTOGUY: gaspode: I started out going 'what collective punishment? What is he even on about?'

Then had a moment of clarity, I assume he is a gun nut?

You don't need to be a gun nut to have problems with a hastily passed ban. New Zealand had one of the lowest firearm homicide rates on Earth of all the ways to have handled a mass shooting depriving people of their legally purchased property should be seen as the last resort. Instead it was seen as the only option which fails to take into account that previously mentioned miniscule homicide rate indicating that this is an extreme anomaly.


It was a buyback scheme not Civil Forfeiture, under an act passed by a democratically-elected parliament. Of course, if the bolded part is your only objection, then I guess you have no issue with the preexisting (and still unchanged) requirements for firearm ownership in NZ:
In New Zealand, people first have to obtain a license to legally purchase, own, and possess a gun. A license applicant is vetted to check for a criminal record, a history of violence, drug and alcohol use, and relationships with potentially dangerous people, among other factors. The applicant also must go through a firearms safety course. That all typically takes months to get through.
Because if you see those as unreasonable restrictions to firearm ownership, then you're not upset about the government 'depriving people of their legally purchased property', you just have an emotional fixation on guns.
 
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