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2020-05-25 2:33:09 AM  
Shouldn't the store have that woman's name and phone number?
 
2020-05-25 2:56:21 AM  
Not that abuser's first time: "took the time to cover up her license plates on the way out"
 
2020-05-25 4:40:28 AM  
I wouldn't want to work in retail right now.
 
2020-05-25 4:44:03 AM  

fusillade762: Shouldn't the store have that woman's name and phone number?


She did not think her cunning plan through.
 
2020-05-25 4:51:39 AM  
Pools are hard to find right now, but damn lady. Just do it redneck style and dig a hole, and add a tarp.
There's no need to go beatin' people up.
 
2020-05-25 4:54:15 AM  
Strikes by July depending on how housebroken these retail workers are.
 
2020-05-25 5:09:22 AM  
I work retail right now, and people have been pretty decent, for the most part. At least towards me. There have been some altercations with female members of the staff, most of them younger, but it's just escalated to yelling. And those kind of assholes have been present since humans crawled out of the swamps. We did have our first possible firearm threat code called over the radio two months ago, but it didn't turn into anything.

Maybe it's because I'm a white male, maybe because I know what I'm doing and never standing around. And maybe because I can answer questions on where things are, and whether or not we're out of something, know what we have in the coolers, freezers, and receiving, and maybe it's because I lift 40 to 80 pound boxes constantly, and walk like someone you don't want to piss off, that helps me. I've never had problems; I tell people we don't have that, and they believe me, and don't argue.

I feel really bad for the female retail workers, because there are so many biatches and dicks out there that will just let out all their frustrations on them. As I said, I haven't really heard of a lot of it where I work, but I know it happens. It's a big "alpha" male venting his frustrations on a teenage cashier about something that she has no control over, or a giant "alpha" coont venting the same frustrations.

They're just terrible people. I get sick of people being pissed off over the lack of toilet paper, or eggs, or milk, and now it's butter. Guess what? A bunch of people tested positive in butter and dairy processing plants, so they had to shut down. But when I tell them that, they just shake their head and say "So butter is the new toilet paper then huh?", and walk away. If a young woman said that to them, they would probably get pissed off. I know more about the supply chain than the cashier, if you want to yell at someone, yell at me. But they don't see me as an easy target for their anger.

This whole thing has been really eye-opening about just how farking dumb and angry most people are. And it's scary. As soon as my county started a "soft-reopening" of businesses, restaurants, and bars, the amount of people wearing masks in store dropped from I would say 60-70% to around 20%. Right ahead of Memorial Day. Before that, I could say at least most people are wearing masks, if not practicing social distancing. Now they're doing neither, and the people still wearing masks are just trying to get through as fast as they can.

I really can't shake my head more without it falling off.
 
2020-05-25 5:09:44 AM  
Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.
 
2020-05-25 5:18:58 AM  

JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.


Dude people pull out their  phones and put it tik tok before even doing shiat
 
2020-05-25 5:26:48 AM  
This guy just needs a few tools
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2020-05-25 5:27:09 AM  
You should thank them for doing their part to raise morale.
 
2020-05-25 5:31:05 AM  

fusillade762: Shouldn't the store have that woman's name and phone number?


Usually written on a post it note and thanks to god awful communication skills between shifts the items sold.
 
2020-05-25 6:04:23 AM  
I'm not surprised that someone wearing a Chanel face mask was acting entitled and threw a violent tantrum when she didn't get the non-essential luxury item she wanted during a pandemic. I've never met an empathetic adult who goes out of their way to flaunt high end designer logos.
 
2020-05-25 6:56:28 AM  
Mad Monique?
 
2020-05-25 7:09:11 AM  
Offer a reward you dummies.  People love money more than they love "not snitching".
 
2020-05-25 7:10:21 AM  

JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.


i for one would not play hero at a wal mart
 
2020-05-25 7:14:14 AM  

TheYeti: Offer a reward you dummies.  People love money more than they love "not snitching".


Oops, I read the article linked within and they have.
 
2020-05-25 7:14:22 AM  
FTA: Samantha Clarke said she was "split open pretty good"

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/kinda a cutie
// even with the gash
/// additional giggity for "the gash"
 
2020-05-25 7:38:08 AM  

sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart


I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.
 
2020-05-25 7:56:39 AM  

jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.


I don't know man, my cousin had a gun pointed at him for following a thief out of a Walmart.
 
2020-05-25 7:59:41 AM  

jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.


I have had two separate AP guys get beat to hell because they followed a shoplifter or violent customer out the front door.  Following a violent person outside - even to get a plate number - puts you at risk if they decide they don't want you tailing them.
 
2020-05-25 8:07:36 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: I wouldn't want to work in retail right now.


I wouldn't want to work in retail. right now.

FTFY
 
2020-05-25 8:09:54 AM  

fusillade762: Shouldn't the store have that woman's name and phone number?


If they had that information then they should have called her before letting her stuff go. I have held onto some special orders for customers for a few days, before letting it go back to the shelf and always try to call them beforehand.
 
2020-05-25 8:11:01 AM  

blodyholy: Pools are hard to find right now, but damn lady. Just do it redneck style and dig a hole, and add a tarp.
There's no need to go beatin' people up.


If she has a dirt yard, she could live in a concrete urban area.
 
2020-05-25 8:12:22 AM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Strikes by July depending on how housebroken these retail workers are.


A lot of them have been getting bonus pay, so they are good.
 
2020-05-25 8:19:09 AM  

jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.


Did you read the part where she covered her plates? Make, model and color can be gotten from the security cameras in the parking lot.
 
2020-05-25 8:20:31 AM  
I hate to admit it but I'm just waiting for the day a customer tries to put their hands on me.
I'm not an agressive person but justifiably whooping some ass in self defence would be therapeutic
 
2020-05-25 8:26:50 AM  
It would be a CNN hate crime if it was the other way around.
 
2020-05-25 8:31:57 AM  

omnimancer28: jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.

I have had two separate AP guys get beat to hell because they followed a shoplifter or violent customer out the front door.  Following a violent person outside - even to get a plate number - puts you at risk if they decide they don't want you tailing them.


It happens. But they've got their self-respect.  "Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once." Caesar.

I get that not everyone can be big or get self-defense training to handle those that are bigger or badder. But it shouldn't be hard to outsmart a thug.  I'll never understand how a group of people won't band together to respond to a beating like in this article. And I've seen smaller people handle bigger people--like drunks or the mentally ill--dozens of times. Hundreds of times in groups or knowing there were people to have their back... Most of the time the determination to say "No, that's not OK." was the deciding factor...
 
2020-05-25 8:35:24 AM  

caljar: It would be a CNN hate crime if it was the other way around.


Fox news viewers probably want her lynched in the town square.
 
2020-05-25 8:37:21 AM  

Seacop: jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.

I don't know man, my cousin had a gun pointed at him for following a thief out of a Walmart.


Following a shoplifter is a hell of a lot different than following someone who committed felony assault.  Follow the thief?  No thanks.  Follow the attacker?  Maybe, depends on the circumstances.
 
2020-05-25 8:38:10 AM  

jimjays: omnimancer28: jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.

I have had two separate AP guys get beat to hell because they followed a shoplifter or violent customer out the front door.  Following a violent person outside - even to get a plate number - puts you at risk if they decide they don't want you tailing them.

It happens. But they've got their self-respect.  "Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once." Caesar.

I get that not everyone can be big or get self-defense training to handle those that are bigger or badder. But it shouldn't be hard to outsmart a thug.  I'll never understand how a group of people won't band together to respond to a beating like in this article. And I've seen smaller people handle bigger people--like drunks or the mentally ill--dozens of times. Hundreds of times in groups or knowing there were people to have their back... Most of the time the determination to say "No, that's not OK." was the deciding factor...


Most corporate cultures have a "do nothing" policy.
I was reprimanded at work for helping an elderly cancer survivor with a tracheotomy and O2 line get up off the floor after a fall because "it could be a liability"
 
2020-05-25 8:51:01 AM  

Doctor Poop: jimjays: omnimancer28: jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.

I have had two separate AP guys get beat to hell because they followed a shoplifter or violent customer out the front door.  Following a violent person outside - even to get a plate number - puts you at risk if they decide they don't want you tailing them.

It happens. But they've got their self-respect.  "Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once." Caesar.

I get that not everyone can be big or get self-defense training to handle those that are bigger or badder. But it shouldn't be hard to outsmart a thug.  I'll never understand how a group of people won't band together to respond to a beating like in this article. And I've seen smaller people handle bigger people--like drunks or the mentally ill--dozens of times. Hundreds of times in groups or knowing there were people to have their back... Most of the time the determination to say "No, that's not OK." was the deciding factor...

Most corporate cultures have a "do nothing" policy.
I was reprimanded at work for helping an elderly cancer survivor with a tracheotomy and O2 line get up off the floor after a fall because "it could be a liability"


I worked for Lowe's and a car in the parking lot was on fire. We couldn't call 911 because we need permission from the district LPM.
 
2020-05-25 8:53:12 AM  

Doctor Poop: jimjays: omnimancer28: jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.

I have had two separate AP guys get beat to hell because they followed a shoplifter or violent customer out the front door.  Following a violent person outside - even to get a plate number - puts you at risk if they decide they don't want you tailing them.

It happens. But they've got their self-respect.  "Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once." Caesar.

I get that not everyone can be big or get self-defense training to handle those that are bigger or badder. But it shouldn't be hard to outsmart a thug.  I'll never understand how a group of people won't band together to respond to a beating like in this article. And I've seen smaller people handle bigger people--like drunks or the mentally ill--dozens of times. Hundreds of times in groups or knowing there were people to have their back... Most of the time the determination to say "No, that's not OK." was the deciding factor...

Most corporate cultures have a "do nothing" policy.
I was reprimanded at work for helping an elderly cancer survivor with a tracheotomy and O2 line get up off the floor after a fall because "it could be a liability"


That's absolutely right, was just talking about the thugs knowing all about store shoplifting policies yesterday. With the policies only emboldening them, making them feel they've been wronged when people do stand up... But standers-by have no obligation to the stores, only their conscience and hopefully the people around them. "Do unto (or for) others... People are real quick to gripe about problems in the country and world, and then when they see something happen in front of them say, "Well, it's not my problem..." But it is...
 
2020-05-25 9:01:23 AM  

jimjays: Doctor Poop: jimjays: omnimancer28: jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.

I have had two separate AP guys get beat to hell because they followed a shoplifter or violent customer out the front door.  Following a violent person outside - even to get a plate number - puts you at risk if they decide they don't want you tailing them.

It happens. But they've got their self-respect.  "Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once." Caesar.

I get that not everyone can be big or get self-defense training to handle those that are bigger or badder. But it shouldn't be hard to outsmart a thug.  I'll never understand how a group of people won't band together to respond to a beating like in this article. And I've seen smaller people handle bigger people--like drunks or the mentally ill--dozens of times. Hundreds of times in groups or knowing there were people to have their back... Most of the time the determination to say "No, that's not OK." was the deciding factor...

Most corporate cultures have a "do nothing" policy.
I was reprimanded at work for helping an elderly cancer survivor with a tracheotomy and O2 line get up off the floor after a fall because "it could be a liability"

That's absolutely right, was just talking about the thugs knowing all about store shoplifting policies yesterday. With the policies only emboldening them, making them feel they've been wronged when people do stand up... But standers-by have no obligation to the stores, only their conscience and hopefully the people around them. "Do unto (or for) others... People are real quick to gripe about problems in the country and world, and then when they see something happen in front of them say, "Well, it's not my problem..." But it is...


I was kinda shaken by the fact that anotheRhuman was suffering and my boss is yelling at me "DO NOT TOUCH HIM. DO NOT TOUCH HIM ITS POLICY"
 
2020-05-25 9:11:16 AM  

IvanTheSilent: Seacop: jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.

I don't know man, my cousin had a gun pointed at him for following a thief out of a Walmart.

Following a shoplifter is a hell of a lot different than following someone who committed felony assault.  Follow the thief?  No thanks.  Follow the attacker?  Maybe, depends on the circumstances.


Hence the "I don't know" at the beginning. It's always going to depend on the circumstance, but shiat's wild. You never know what extreme the other person is going to go to.
 
2020-05-25 9:30:46 AM  
Doctor Poop: "I was kinda shaken by the fact that another human was suffering and my boss is yelling at me "DO NOT TOUCH HIM. DO NOT TOUCH HIM IT's POLICY."

Understood. Medical is always a tough call. Even for pros, maybe especially for pros with an assumption to know what they're doing. I've worked with that policy, was challenged about choices I made; had good management that my calls were accepted. (Independent lifting after seizures and such, responding to medical codes because there would usually be lifting, fetching equipment, at least someone needed to do the "Stand back, give 'em some air" thing...)  Hopefully management, chosen for good sense, will hire decent people that likewise use good sense, appreciate that they can show they did use good sense when questioned after incidents.
 
2020-05-25 9:48:21 AM  

jimjays: Doctor Poop: "I was kinda shaken by the fact that another human was suffering and my boss is yelling at me "DO NOT TOUCH HIM. DO NOT TOUCH HIM IT's POLICY."

Understood. Medical is always a tough call. Even for pros, maybe especially for pros with an assumption to know what they're doing. I've worked with that policy, was challenged about choices I made; had good management that my calls were accepted. (Independent lifting after seizures and such, responding to medical codes because there would usually be lifting, fetching equipment, at least someone needed to do the "Stand back, give 'em some air" thing...)  Hopefully management, chosen for good sense, will hire decent people that likewise use good sense, appreciate that they can show they did use good sense when questioned after incidents.


Then you have Home Depot, who took the "do nothing" policy to the absurdist extreme and fired a guy who helped police stop a kidnapping because he left the store premises without permission and followed the kidnapper and victim, giving the cops live directions as he went.  It wasn't until the news went international that HD corporate thought "Hmm, maybe this is bad optics..." and had him rehired.
 
2020-05-25 9:59:07 AM  

punkwrestler: jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.

Did you read the part where she covered her plates? Make, model and color can be gotten from the security cameras in the parking lot.


Done with malice and aforethought. Skanks gonna skank.
 
2020-05-25 10:07:30 AM  

caljar: It would be a CNN hate crime if it was the other way around.


Why would a retail worker assault a customer? Did they work in the post office?
 
2020-05-25 10:12:04 AM  

soupafi: Doctor Poop: jimjays: omnimancer28: jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.

I have had two separate AP guys get beat to hell because they followed a shoplifter or violent customer out the front door.  Following a violent person outside - even to get a plate number - puts you at risk if they decide they don't want you tailing them.

It happens. But they've got their self-respect.  "Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once." Caesar.

I get that not everyone can be big or get self-defense training to handle those that are bigger or badder. But it shouldn't be hard to outsmart a thug.  I'll never understand how a group of people won't band together to respond to a beating like in this article. And I've seen smaller people handle bigger people--like drunks or the mentally ill--dozens of times. Hundreds of times in groups or knowing there were people to have their back... Most of the time the determination to say "No, that's not OK." was the deciding factor...

Most corporate cultures have a "do nothing" policy.
I was reprimanded at work for helping an elderly cancer survivor with a tracheotomy and O2 line get up off the floor after a fall because "it could be a liability"

I worked for Lowe's and a car in the parking lot was on fire. We couldn't call 911 because we need permission from the district LPM.


That is dumb as shiat. What if a customer got hurt? What if the car set off other cars, maybe yours?
 
2020-05-25 10:14:09 AM  

punkwrestler: soupafi: Doctor Poop: jimjays: omnimancer28: jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.

I have had two separate AP guys get beat to hell because they followed a shoplifter or violent customer out the front door.  Following a violent person outside - even to get a plate number - puts you at risk if they decide they don't want you tailing them.

It happens. But they've got their self-respect.  "Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once." Caesar.

I get that not everyone can be big or get self-defense training to handle those that are bigger or badder. But it shouldn't be hard to outsmart a thug.  I'll never understand how a group of people won't band together to respond to a beating like in this article. And I've seen smaller people handle bigger people--like drunks or the mentally ill--dozens of times. Hundreds of times in groups or knowing there were people to have their back... Most of the time the determination to say "No, that's not OK." was the deciding factor...

Most corporate cultures have a "do nothing" policy.
I was reprimanded at work for helping an elderly cancer survivor with a tracheotomy and O2 line get up off the floor after a fall because "it could be a liability"

I worked for Lowe's and a car in the parking lot was on fire. We couldn't call 911 because we need permission from the district LPM.

That is dumb as shiat. What if a customer got hurt? What if the car set off other cars, maybe yours?


Oh. I know it's a dumb rule. And we couldn't use our personal phones because using a cell phone on the sales floor can be grounds for termination. At least when I was there it was.
 
2020-05-25 10:17:05 AM  
I suppose the sales rep should be grateful that the shopper didn't shoot her.
 
2020-05-25 10:23:33 AM  

soupafi: punkwrestler: soupafi: Doctor Poop: jimjays: omnimancer28: jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.

I have had two separate AP guys get beat to hell because they followed a shoplifter or violent customer out the front door.  Following a violent person outside - even to get a plate number - puts you at risk if they decide they don't want you tailing them.

It happens. But they've got their self-respect.  "Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once." Caesar.

I get that not everyone can be big or get self-defense training to handle those that are bigger or badder. But it shouldn't be hard to outsmart a thug.  I'll never understand how a group of people won't band together to respond to a beating like in this article. And I've seen smaller people handle bigger people--like drunks or the mentally ill--dozens of times. Hundreds of times in groups or knowing there were people to have their back... Most of the time the determination to say "No, that's not OK." was the deciding factor...

Most corporate cultures have a "do nothing" policy.
I was reprimanded at work for helping an elderly cancer survivor with a tracheotomy and O2 line get up off the floor after a fall because "it could be a liability"

I worked for Lowe's and a car in the parking lot was on fire. We couldn't call 911 because we need permission from the district LPM.

That is dumb as shiat. What if a customer got hurt? What if the car set off other cars, maybe yours?

Oh. I know it's a dumb rule. And we couldn't use our personal phones because using a cell phone on the sales floor can be grounds for termination. At least when I was there it was.


We never had that kind of rule, which was good since I called the police/fire when I had people who were unresponsive, or unruly.

The store also went through several different owners while I was there. We went from doing what you has to do to not stopping the people unless you were a salaried manager. Which put me in a spot because I had to explain to some of the workers that I also couldn't do anything about shoplifters since I wasn't salaried. Before that I did make a few stops and got product back or helped LP.

Though there was one incident where a bunch of people tried to steal some things and it ended up in a brawl outside the store between employees and this gang. From reports 7-10 people were involved.
 
2020-05-25 10:24:35 AM  
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2020-05-25 10:28:34 AM  

alechemist: fusillade762: Shouldn't the store have that woman's name and phone number?

Usually written on a post it note and thanks to god awful communication skills between shifts the items sold.


Phone companies keep records. I'll bet she used a cell phone registered in her name.
 
2020-05-25 10:30:52 AM  

soupafi: Doctor Poop: jimjays: omnimancer28: jimjays: sinko swimo: JeffMD: Once again a lot of people failed at life here. Did no one even attempt to go out and get the car model and plate? How about customers willing to detain her? It is less about the initial story that infuriates me, it's the follow up reaction by everyone else.

i for one would not play hero at a wal mart

I'd hardly call getting a car model and plate number playing hero. But because so few people will step up and do the right thing the worst of people know they can usually get away with what they do.

I have had two separate AP guys get beat to hell because they followed a shoplifter or violent customer out the front door.  Following a violent person outside - even to get a plate number - puts you at risk if they decide they don't want you tailing them.

It happens. But they've got their self-respect.  "Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once." Caesar.

I get that not everyone can be big or get self-defense training to handle those that are bigger or badder. But it shouldn't be hard to outsmart a thug.  I'll never understand how a group of people won't band together to respond to a beating like in this article. And I've seen smaller people handle bigger people--like drunks or the mentally ill--dozens of times. Hundreds of times in groups or knowing there were people to have their back... Most of the time the determination to say "No, that's not OK." was the deciding factor...

Most corporate cultures have a "do nothing" policy.
I was reprimanded at work for helping an elderly cancer survivor with a tracheotomy and O2 line get up off the floor after a fall because "it could be a liability"

I worked for Lowe's and a car in the parking lot was on fire. We couldn't call 911 because we need permission from the district LPM.


So your store managers are farking morons, doesn't mean you need to listen to them.
 
2020-05-25 1:25:15 PM  
This is why retail workers should be armed. You attack me? Here's a sawed off 12 gauge to make sure your brats don't have a mom anymore.
 
2020-05-25 1:57:20 PM  

Squik2: Not that abuser's first time: "took the time to cover up her license plates on the way out"



How would you even do that?  There's nothing in my car that I could use.  Maybe I should carry a roll of duct tape or something.
 
2020-05-25 5:31:12 PM  

Vern: I work retail right now, and people have been pretty decent, for the most part. At least towards me. There have been some altercations with female members of the staff, most of them younger, but it's just escalated to yelling. And those kind of assholes have been present since humans crawled out of the swamps. We did have our first possible firearm threat code called over the radio two months ago, but it didn't turn into anything.

Maybe it's because I'm a white male, maybe because I know what I'm doing and never standing around. And maybe because I can answer questions on where things are, and whether or not we're out of something, know what we have in the coolers, freezers, and receiving, and maybe it's because I lift 40 to 80 pound boxes constantly, and walk like someone you don't want to piss off, that helps me. I've never had problems; I tell people we don't have that, and they believe me, and don't argue.

I feel really bad for the female retail workers, because there are so many biatches and dicks out there that will just let out all their frustrations on them. As I said, I haven't really heard of a lot of it where I work, but I know it happens. It's a big "alpha" male venting his frustrations on a teenage cashier about something that she has no control over, or a giant "alpha" coont venting the same frustrations.

They're just terrible people. I get sick of people being pissed off over the lack of toilet paper, or eggs, or milk, and now it's butter. Guess what? A bunch of people tested positive in butter and dairy processing plants, so they had to shut down. But when I tell them that, they just shake their head and say "So butter is the new toilet paper then huh?", and walk away. If a young woman said that to them, they would probably get pissed off. I know more about the supply chain than the cashier, if you want to yell at someone, yell at me. But they don't see me as an easy target for their anger.

This whole thing has been really eye-opening about just ...


I hear you, it's something I've noticed too. I'm a big, bearded guy that doesn't smile a lot. I've rarely had any really bad interactions with customers and the ones that I have had ended without too much of a fuss. I consistently saw and heard about female co-workers (especially younger ones) getting disrespected and treated like dirt though by customers.
 
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