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(ABC News)   "National parks hope visitors comply with virus measures." You mean the people who manage to fall into fenced off hot springs and try to make selfies with bisons? Sure, good luck with that   (abcnews.go.com) divider line
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2020-05-24 3:05:26 PM  
The heat of the boiling mud will sterilize the virus.
 
2020-05-24 3:26:38 PM  
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Good news kids, humans are back on the menu.
 
2020-05-24 3:47:36 PM  
And I hope one day I get to boink a supermodel.
 
2020-05-24 3:49:38 PM  
I don't know why everyone's so worried -- when Trump gets the churches open again, we'll have plenty of Thoughts & Prayers to go around.
 
2020-05-24 3:49:46 PM  
What's better.  They're opening up the parks but not the bathroom and asking people to pack it all out with them.  It ain't gonna happen.
 
2020-05-24 3:52:05 PM  
Except the springs aren't all fenced off:

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When I was there in 2016, I noticed how polite and orderly people were when there was nothing between a four-foot-wide walkway and boiling death.
 
2020-05-24 3:57:41 PM  
By June 30, the bison and bears will have the virus.
 
2020-05-24 3:57:44 PM  
It looks like a Jesus fish......come to boil the virus outta you!!!!!!
 
2020-05-24 3:58:30 PM  

TrashcanMan: What's better.  They're opening up the parks but not the bathroom and asking people to pack it all out with them.  It ain't gonna happen.


I've been to three National Parks in the past week. Bathrooms were open in them and the ones that weren't had portables outside.
 
2020-05-24 3:58:34 PM  
But Sholly said he has no intention of putting his employees at risk by breaking up every ill-advised crowd.

This is a boss who would earn my respect
 
2020-05-24 4:00:27 PM  
There's an infux of new camper/RV people too making it even worse.

Karen's going glamping with no hotels open.
 
2020-05-24 4:05:30 PM  
Yeah, I'm sure visitors to parks will comply.  These are the same people who feed animals right in front of signs which say "DON'T FEED THE ANIMALS" and joke that they're not actually feeding them, they're just putting food on the ground and can't help it if the cute little animals eat it up.

Explaining that there are endangered species there doesn't seem too help.  That just makes them want to feed them more of the snack food they brought in their cars.
 
2020-05-24 4:08:06 PM  

My Sober Alt: Yeah, I'm sure visitors to parks will comply.  These are the same people who feed animals right in front of signs which say "DON'T FEED THE ANIMALS" and joke that they're not actually feeding them, they're just putting food on the ground and can't help it if the cute little animals eat it up.

Explaining that there are endangered species there doesn't seem too help.  That just makes them want to feed them more of the snack food they brought in their cars.


I'm glad that Fla. here is Difficulty: gators.
 
2020-05-24 4:10:07 PM  
It's clear what needs to be done, the feds just hide behind sovereign immunity laws. Cool the thermal pools to 100°F, canyons need stairs, and bison need selfie training.
 
2020-05-24 4:12:27 PM  

ChrisDe: By June 30, the bison and bears will have the virus.


Well yeah I heard it might be sexually transmitted so
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2020-05-24 4:22:14 PM  

My Sober Alt: Yeah, I'm sure visitors to parks will comply. These are the same people who feed animals right in front of signs which say "DON'T FEED THE ANIMALS" and joke that they're not actually feeding them, they're just putting food on the ground and can't help it if the cute little animals eat it up.


I mean, to be fair, the vast majority of national park users aren't like that. It's just that the one in a thousand who are get all the attention. "Family visits national park, enjoys it responsibly, and goes home uninjured" isn't really news. "Dumb motherf*cker who tried to cuddle a moose has antler surgically removed from asshole" is.
 
2020-05-24 4:33:39 PM  
I haven't kept up on the National Park System this year, re: Covid. Are they padlocking the restrooms like our local parks are? Because that can't possibly, er, backfire.
 
2020-05-24 4:40:03 PM  

youncasqua: My Sober Alt: Yeah, I'm sure visitors to parks will comply. These are the same people who feed animals right in front of signs which say "DON'T FEED THE ANIMALS" and joke that they're not actually feeding them, they're just putting food on the ground and can't help it if the cute little animals eat it up.

I mean, to be fair, the vast majority of national park users aren't like that. It's just that the one in a thousand who are get all the attention. "Family visits national park, enjoys it responsibly, and goes home uninjured" isn't really news. "Dumb motherf*cker who tried to cuddle a moose has antler surgically removed from asshole" is.


I dunno mate. When I was on Shackleford Island there were signs all over the place saying "wild horses are dangerous. Do not approach. If you see someone approaching a wild horse take a picture with your phone and text it to this number".

Wanna guess what we saw people doing?
 
2020-05-24 4:59:15 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Except the springs aren't all fenced off:

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When I was there in 2016, I noticed how polite and orderly people were when there was nothing between a four-foot-wide walkway and boiling death.


That's probably the worst photo to make your point.
 
2020-05-24 5:08:40 PM  
National parks hope visitors comply with virus measures.

Yeah, you might want to consult someone who went to college and studied English.

/anti-virus
 
2020-05-24 5:17:32 PM  

ski9600: National parks hope visitors comply with virus measures.

Yeah, you might want to consult someone who went to college and studied English.

/anti-virus


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2020-05-24 5:19:03 PM  

youncasqua: My Sober Alt: Yeah, I'm sure visitors to parks will comply. These are the same people who feed animals right in front of signs which say "DON'T FEED THE ANIMALS" and joke that they're not actually feeding them, they're just putting food on the ground and can't help it if the cute little animals eat it up.

I mean, to be fair, the vast majority of national park users aren't like that. It's just that the one in a thousand who are get all the attention. "Family visits national park, enjoys it responsibly, and goes home uninjured" isn't really news. "Dumb motherf*cker who tried to cuddle a moose has antler surgically removed from asshole" is.


You're right.  I don't notice most people unless they're doing something noteworthy and abiding by the rules and respecting nature isn't noteworthy and that's good.

When respecting nature is actually noteworthy then we are truly doomed.  Imagine the headlines:  "Family of Four Visits National Park and Packs Out What they Packed In".

We asked the man, who refused to be named, why he was picking up his own family's trash and he said it was the right thing to do.  We also asked him why he would bother to do something that was right, but he couldn't come up with anything comprehensible to this reporter.
 
2020-05-24 5:21:47 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Except the springs aren't all fenced off:

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When I was there in 2016, I noticed how polite and orderly people were when there was nothing between a four-foot-wide walkway and boiling death.


I remember when someone lost a drone to a hot spring; it not being found was chalked up to it dissolving in under 72 hours, I think.
 
2020-05-24 5:22:40 PM  
Yelp reviews

Arches National Park
"Delicate arch looks like it might fall over at any time. It might fall over in the future. Doesn't look anything like the license plate."

Hawaii Volcanoes National Park
"Paid $20 to get in. Didn't even get to touch lava."

Crater Lake National Park
"There are mosquitos everywhere and I can get a larger portion of food from Olive Garden for the same price. Hard pass. Restock your beer more frequently, we bought you out in 3 days."

Grand Canyon National Park
"The reason I give Grand Canyon National Park only one star as a National Park is that pretty much all of the really awesome things you could potentially do in the Grand Canyon are basically off-limits for a day tripper...I just don't understand why they won't build a road, aerial tramway, elevator, or SOMETHING that gives easier access to the canyon's depths. To people who say that building anything would ruin the Grand Canyon, I would say this - did building a road into Yosemite Valley ruin Yosemite?"

Joshua Tree National Park
"In my own experience, I wouldn't come back here. I don't know how you go a day without showering if you're spending time at the desert."

Mount Rainier National Park
"This place was the worst!!! I'm not saying it wasn't pretty, but it makes me remember an episode of the Cosby show where Vanessa is engaged to someone and Bill Cosby says that it was like a juicy piece of steak presented on a trash can lid. That's what this place was. Mount Rainier served on a trash can lid."

Grand Canyon National Park
"As amazing as the views are it is really kind of boring. Every 500 ft a new vantage point of the same thing: a really big hole in the ground. Don't get me wrong, the canyon is amazing. What would be better is a guided tour of the canyon from open-air view trams via a very long (much longer than exists) rim side roadway. What would also be nice is Segway rentals, but I know the reason why this isn't done is because someone would inevitably drive off the edge of the canyon to their death."

Yellowstone
"When we got out of the car, the smell of sulfur nearly knocked my girlfriend off her feet and the stench followed us through the day as it clung to our clothes and hair."

Grand Canyon National Park
"Whatever you do, be warned that there are no barriers around the edges which fall about 300-900 feet into the depths of the Canyon. Do not take pictures or have pictures taken of yourself without being serious. Do not hover about the Canyon whilst drunk. You will fall over the edge and you will die. Be warned in advance that 60 people have fell over the edge and, in 20 instances, people were posing for or taking pictures while hovering on a rock close to the edge."

Rocky Mountain National Park
"We went up Sunday 9/11 to see the elk bugle. Because of all the elk fences now in Horseshoe Park there were NO elk there period. Are you kidding me a fall rut season and no elk in Horseshoe Park? Then we went over by Beaver Meadows, more fences and few elk there either."

Grand Canyon National Park
"Look, the Grand Canyon is a very beautiful place. I loved the sights there. But I was bored after a few minutes. The only time I wasn't bored was when I was standing inches from my death. There is no fence to stop you from falling thousands of feet to the bottom. You could actually stumble and die."

Arches National Park
"I've been to a lot of national parks and this one was over-hyped in my opinion. Arches is no Yosemite."

Grand Canyon National Park
"After driving and driving for about 50 mins, you enter the Grand Canyon to find TADA: A great big hole. Personally I don't know how I feel about the grand canyon. When I first saw it, I will admit that I was not awed. After walking around and even attempting to get close to the edge (yes there are areas where there are no fences or gates to reinforce the perimeter) I became overwhelmed for the sheer fact knowing that a tiny burst of wind could plummet my body to sheer disintegration."

Olympic National Park
"I've seen a lot better. Try going to Utah. You will be blown away by the parks there."

Denali National Park
"If you are looking for real adventure, skip Denali."

Grand Canyon National Park
"At first, I was amazed at the scale and grandeur of the Grand Canyon. The views along the 277-mile-long chasm are nothing short of awe-inspiring. But then it hit me: it all looks the same. There are various lookout points and interesting exhibits in the park, but I couldn't help but get bored of seeing a giant trench in the ground. There is very little variation and few features."

Grand Canyon National Park
"The one day that I had to spend at the Grand Canyon was flooded with fog. We could not see a thing. I would not have known there was a canyon there, had I not been told. I was disappointed that although I got there at 4:30 pm and there was zero visibility, the park continued to collect the $25 dollar fee per car."

Arches National Park
"Really pretty and dramatic in some vista spots, such as Park Avenue, but to get anywhere close to an arch or two you have to be up for some serious hiking. Most disappointing, this should be clearly noted in the Park literature."

Canyonlands National Park
"If you have seen the Grand Canyon, it is not clear why you would need to make the three hour round trip drive from hwy 191 and back to see Canyonlands. This park is similar but 10 times wider and flatter."

Death Valley National Park
"Don't waste your time!! I have lived in places ranging from by the ocean to the desert, and I have to say this is the ugliest place I have ever seen. Most deserts at least have some color to them, creating their own special beauty, not here, there is a bit of color near the entrance, and a tiny bit inside, otherwise...I paid $20 for nothing but nasty rock and salt."
 
2020-05-24 5:26:46 PM  

mjjt: , I would say this - did building a road into Yosemite Valley ruin Yosemite?"


I think a lot of people would say 'yes' to that question.
 
2020-05-24 5:32:39 PM  
I remember seeing a man at Rocky Mountain National Park feeding spaghetti to a deer...
 
2020-05-24 5:37:01 PM  
"Bison" is the plural of bison.
 
2020-05-24 5:40:16 PM  

beans morocco: I remember seeing a man at Rocky Mountain National Park feeding spaghetti to a deer...


I guess that beats feeding Doritos to the bears.

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2020-05-24 5:43:01 PM  
Hot sulphur baths are great exfoliants for the skin.
 
2020-05-24 5:44:37 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: Hot sulphur baths are great exfoliants for the skin.


I heard the cure the covid if taken internally.
 
2020-05-24 5:52:54 PM  
Went to Big Bend one time and never did find that damn clock.
 
2020-05-24 5:55:59 PM  

DanInKansas: Wanna guess what we saw people doing?


Were they taunting the dynamite monkey?

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2020-05-24 6:04:03 PM  
Why are national parks closed anyway?  Doesn't the president have the authority to reopen them?  What's he waiting for?
 
2020-05-24 6:10:41 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: "Bison" is the plural of bison.


And don't forget that buffalo Buffalo buffalo, too.
 
2020-05-24 6:11:51 PM  

mjjt: Grand Canyon National Park
"The reason I give Grand Canyon National Park only one star as a National Park is that pretty much all of the really awesome things you could potentially do in the Grand Canyon are basically off-limits for a day tripper...I just don't understand why they won't build a road, aerial tramway, elevator, or SOMETHING that gives easier access to the canyon's depths. To people who say that building anything would ruin the Grand Canyon, I would say this - did building a road into Yosemite Valley ruin Yosemite?"


I know it's just a Yelp review, but the first time I went to the Grand Canyon it was basically a day trip.  I stayed overnight, but not really long enough to go down into the canyon.

There were roads.  We drove all along the rim, stopping every now and then to take in the view and hike a little bit.

Instead of an aerial tram, I heard you can raft down the river or sit your ass on an ass or even hike down there.

Mules are more sure-footed than aerial trams anyway.


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2020-05-24 6:20:26 PM  
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Saw this today and feel it's pretty appropriate for this thread.

/"make something idiot proof and someone will invent a better idiot."
 
2020-05-24 6:23:48 PM  
It seemed pointless to me to close the Great Smokies. First, most people traverse it in vehicles. If they stop at a lookout (with the exception of Clingmans Dome, usually), it is often just one car there. Close the visitors' centers, sure; but to close off trails that we hike in the backcountry in non-Covid times and never see a soul seems overkill. I mean, just say you won't come looking for us if we twist our ankles. But our first responders probably aren't overwhelmed with our five Covid cases anyway.
 
2020-05-24 6:54:49 PM  
I heard a local guy saying on the news that he didn't think that anybody would follow the rules, but he was still happy, since he owned a motel and needed the income.

He said, you can't even get them to stay 50 feet from a bison, they aren't going to be practicing social distancing.
I laughed.  Then he spouted some patriotic bullshiat about how the parks needed to reopen, because our national spirit was broken, and we needed the parks to restore us.
He probably learned that when he was arguing for having 100,000 rental snowmobiles a day in Yellowstone.  There is nothing more serene than driving a sled around some pristine area with 20 other people, and 5 guided tours in front of you.

The spiritual health of the country has always been a big concern of his, for sure.
 
2020-05-24 7:10:56 PM  

youncasqua: DanInKansas: Wanna guess what we saw people doing?

Were they taunting the dynamite monkey?

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Actually they were fixing the cable.

/which -- and who knew? -- required petting the horses
 
2020-05-24 7:18:04 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: "Bison" is the plural of bison.


What did the papa buffalo say to the younger buffalo when he made his own herd?

"Bye, son."
 
2020-05-24 7:21:40 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: And I hope one day I get to boink a supermodel.


Meh, they just lay there.
 
2020-05-24 7:23:43 PM  

TrashcanMan: What's better.  They're opening up the parks but not the bathroom and asking people to pack it all out with them.  It ain't gonna happen.


What we won't do to avoid restroom attendants.
 
2020-05-24 8:00:46 PM  

meerclarschild: It seemed pointless to me to close the Great Smokies. First, most people traverse it in vehicles. If they stop at a lookout (with the exception of Clingmans Dome, usually), it is often just one car there. Close the visitors' centers, sure; but to close off trails that we hike in the backcountry in non-Covid times and never see a soul seems overkill. I mean, just say you won't come looking for us if we twist our ankles. But our first responders probably aren't overwhelmed with our five Covid cases anyway.


I think a large contributing factor to that decision was Cherokee closing the Res to anyone without a Tribal ID. Without Cherokee, there's no way out on the south side of the park for most tourists. (Locals with 4WD who know the dirt roads, sure.)
 
2020-05-24 8:16:30 PM  

ShavedOrangutan: [Fark user image 425x279]

Saw this today and feel it's pretty appropriate for this thread.

/"make something idiot proof and someone will invent a better idiot."


I hate to admit it, but I've taken many a dump where I shouldn't have.
 
2020-05-24 8:34:21 PM  

Jgok: meerclarschild: It seemed pointless to me to close the Great Smokies. First, most people traverse it in vehicles. If they stop at a lookout (with the exception of Clingmans Dome, usually), it is often just one car there. Close the visitors' centers, sure; but to close off trails that we hike in the backcountry in non-Covid times and never see a soul seems overkill. I mean, just say you won't come looking for us if we twist our ankles. But our first responders probably aren't overwhelmed with our five Covid cases anyway.

I think a large contributing factor to that decision was Cherokee closing the Res to anyone without a Tribal ID. Without Cherokee, there's no way out on the south side of the park for most tourists. (Locals with 4WD who know the dirt roads, sure.)


That makes sense. And I respect Chief Sneed's quick action to close. I was more disappointed about the Road to Nowhere and the trails around Bryson being closed. I suppose people would've been dumb enough to drive in from the North if it were allowed and complain when they couldn't go through Cherokee and had to turn back.
 
2020-05-24 9:02:00 PM  

meerclarschild: Jgok: meerclarschild: It seemed pointless to me to close the Great Smokies. First, most people traverse it in vehicles. If they stop at a lookout (with the exception of Clingmans Dome, usually), it is often just one car there. Close the visitors' centers, sure; but to close off trails that we hike in the backcountry in non-Covid times and never see a soul seems overkill. I mean, just say you won't come looking for us if we twist our ankles. But our first responders probably aren't overwhelmed with our five Covid cases anyway.

I think a large contributing factor to that decision was Cherokee closing the Res to anyone without a Tribal ID. Without Cherokee, there's no way out on the south side of the park for most tourists. (Locals with 4WD who know the dirt roads, sure.)

That makes sense. And I respect Chief Sneed's quick action to close. I was more disappointed about the Road to Nowhere and the trails around Bryson being closed. I suppose people would've been dumb enough to drive in from the North if it were allowed and complain when they couldn't go through Cherokee and had to turn back.


Yeah. We all know that even a massive sign at the south end of Gatlingburg wouldnt keep them from driving all the way across the park and yelling at the Cherokee cops manning the roadblock.

I wasn't surprised when Cherokee closed off. Sneed has been doing a pretty solid job since he took over, at least from an outsider's perspective. I'm still not sure what to think of the situation with Lambert a few years ago.

I'm a good bit east of there so i dont know firsthand, but I was under the impression that the closure wasn't enforced outside of the reservation. Several people I know claim to have hiked and camped in the park while it was closed.
 
2020-05-24 9:11:08 PM  
Totally off-topic but I watched the eclipse in Bryson.
 
2020-05-24 9:49:57 PM  
 
2020-05-24 10:09:07 PM  
Those are not real campers. We like to call them yuppie tourists. We go camping in Shenandoah National Park all the time. There has been a large increase in the bear population. The are all over the campgrounds. We like to watch the tourists go right up to a tree where a bear is eating apples. They stand directly under and take pictures and we laugh at the. I usually give it about a minute before I point out that he could come down at any moment, or he could just pee on them. That usually gets them out of there.I also tell them that I just have to run fast then them and I have a big head start on them. Please enjoy the out doors without bothering the wildlife. After all you are guests
in their home
 
2020-05-24 10:12:56 PM  

mjjt: Yelp reviews

Arches National Park
"Delicate arch looks like it might fall over at any time. It might fall over in the future. Doesn't look anything like the license plate."

Hawaii Volcanoes National Park
"Paid $20 to get in. Didn't even get to touch lava."

Crater Lake National Park
"There are mosquitos everywhere and I can get a larger portion of food from Olive Garden for the same price. Hard pass. Restock your beer more frequently, we bought you out in 3 days."

Grand Canyon National Park
"The reason I give Grand Canyon National Park only one star as a National Park is that pretty much all of the really awesome things you could potentially do in the Grand Canyon are basically off-limits for a day tripper...I just don't understand why they won't build a road, aerial tramway, elevator, or SOMETHING that gives easier access to the canyon's depths. To people who say that building anything would ruin the Grand Canyon, I would say this - did building a road into Yosemite Valley ruin Yosemite?"

Joshua Tree National Park
"In my own experience, I wouldn't come back here. I don't know how you go a day without showering if you're spending time at the desert."

Mount Rainier National Park
"This place was the worst!!! I'm not saying it wasn't pretty, but it makes me remember an episode of the Cosby show where Vanessa is engaged to someone and Bill Cosby says that it was like a juicy piece of steak presented on a trash can lid. That's what this place was. Mount Rainier served on a trash can lid."

Grand Canyon National Park
"As amazing as the views are it is really kind of boring. Every 500 ft a new vantage point of the same thing: a really big hole in the ground. Don't get me wrong, the canyon is amazing. What would be better is a guided tour of the canyon from open-air view trams via a very long (much longer than exists) rim side roadway. What would also be nice is Segway rentals, but I know the reason why this isn't done is because someone would inevitably drive off the edge of the canyon to their death."

Yellowstone
"When we got out of the car, the smell of sulfur nearly knocked my girlfriend off her feet and the stench followed us through the day as it clung to our clothes and hair."

Grand Canyon National Park
"Whatever you do, be warned that there are no barriers around the edges which fall about 300-900 feet into the depths of the Canyon. Do not take pictures or have pictures taken of yourself without being serious. Do not hover about the Canyon whilst drunk. You will fall over the edge and you will die. Be warned in advance that 60 people have fell over the edge and, in 20 instances, people were posing for or taking pictures while hovering on a rock close to the edge."

Rocky Mountain National Park
"We went up Sunday 9/11 to see the elk bugle. Because of all the elk fences now in Horseshoe Park there were NO elk there period. Are you kidding me a fall rut season and no elk in Horseshoe Park? Then we went over by Beaver Meadows, more fences and few elk there either."

Grand Canyon National Park
"Look, the Grand Canyon is a very beautiful place. I loved the sights there. But I was bored after a few minutes. The only time I wasn't bored was when I was standing inches from my death. There is no fence to stop you from falling thousands of feet to the bottom. You could actually stumble and die."

Arches National Park
"I've been to a lot of national parks and this one was over-hyped in my opinion. Arches is no Yosemite."

Grand Canyon National Park
"After driving and driving for about 50 mins, you enter the Grand Canyon to find TADA: A great big hole. Personally I don't know how I feel about the grand canyon. When I first saw it, I will admit that I was not awed. After walking around and even attempting to get close to the edge (yes there are areas where there are no fences or gates to reinforce the perimeter) I became overwhelmed for the sheer fact knowing that a tiny burst of wind could plummet my body to sheer disintegration."

Olympic National Park
"I've seen a lot better. Try going to Utah. You will be blown away by the parks there."

Denali National Park
"If you are looking for real adventure, skip Denali."

Grand Canyon National Park
"At first, I was amazed at the scale and grandeur of the Grand Canyon. The views along the 277-mile-long chasm are nothing short of awe-inspiring. But then it hit me: it all looks the same. There are various lookout points and interesting exhibits in the park, but I couldn't help but get bored of seeing a giant trench in the ground. There is very little variation and few features."

Grand Canyon National Park
"The one day that I had to spend at the Grand Canyon was flooded with fog. We could not see a thing. I would not have known there was a canyon there, had I not been told. I was disappointed that although I got there at 4:30 pm and there was zero visibility, the park continued to collect the $25 dollar fee per car."

Arches National Park
"Really pretty and dramatic in some vista spots, such as Park Avenue, but to get anywhere close to an arch or two you have to be up for some serious hiking. Most disappointing, this should be clearly noted in the Park literature."

Canyonlands National Park
"If you have seen the Grand Canyon, it is not clear why you would need to make the three hour round trip drive from hwy 191 and back to see Canyonlands. This park is similar but 10 times wider and flatter."

Death Valley National Park
"Don't waste your time!! I have lived in places ranging from by the ocean to the desert, and I have to say this is the ugliest place I have ever seen. Most deserts at least have some color to them, creating their own special beauty, not here, there is a bit of color near the entrance, and a tiny bit inside, otherwise...I paid $20 for nothing but nasty rock and salt."


Lol. To be fair about JT, it's HOT during the day, and there is no running water. Just pit toilets. Been there twice. At night it's lovely. Sandy camp areas and cool night air. And the sky is DARK. It's awesome at night. When you wake up you have about 30 minutes to get out of there before the temps get above 100 and then the BEES wake up. I all-capped the important things to know.

Second time I drove my daughter out there as a hs graduation gift. She enjoys the night sky also. We didn't bother checking that the tent poles were packed with the tent. Spent the evening on the picnic table, which was as big as a full size bed anyways.
 
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