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2020-05-24 1:41:00 PM  

PvtStash: Again, anyone, seriously anyone with enough data on the topic of how to ID a person and the history of that work. Knows this is not real, will not work, is not reasonable to use as a unique identifier among us.


Anyone with knowledge of the subject knows facial recognition works well enough for many purposes and it is getting better fast.

Nobody is claiming it is 100% accurate at all times.
 
2020-05-24 1:41:25 PM  

HugeMistake: My new business venture: selling masks printed to look like the lower half of somebody else's face.


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evercover.com is the name of the place
 
2020-05-24 1:43:12 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: Careful now, they may be pushing for penetration radar to get past the cloth.

That's also know as microwaves.


It's easier than that. I believe there was a recent Fark thread about this:

OnePlus 8 Pro has an accidental X-ray vision filter that sees through plastic and clothes
 
2020-05-24 1:52:04 PM  

GardenWeasel: Alphax: Yeah, if I want to use ApplePay while I'm buying more NyQuil and cough drops at Walgreens, I have to slip my mask off for a moment so my phone will recognize me.

Give me back my damn fingerprint sensor.


Plenty of phones have fingerprint sensors.

/ Offer not valid for people frightened into believing they MUST have the latest iPhone
 
2020-05-24 1:56:27 PM  

GardenWeasel: I've had one on all my recent Androids, but the upcoming flagships have all ditched them for facial recognition.

I'm going to ride my my G6 as long as I can.


I'm considering a new phone. I just checked and everything on my list has a fingerprint sensor on the rear.

Google Pixel 3A
Motorola Moto G7 Power
Motorola Moto G7
Motorola Moto G8
Motorola Moto G8 Power

/ I have no idea what a "flagship" phone is supposed to add to my quality of life
// Don't care
 
2020-05-24 1:58:52 PM  
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2020-05-24 2:11:53 PM  

Slackfumasta: Alphax: Yeah, if I want to use ApplePay while I'm buying more NyQuil and cough drops at Walgreens, I have to slip my mask off for a moment so my phone will recognize me.

Update to the latest iOS and it will give you the ability to pay with your passcode if face recognition doesn't work, such as when using a mask.


I dunno why somebody funnied this. It's true!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnet​.​com/google-amp/news/iphones-face-id-no​w-unlocks-faster-when-you-wear-a-face-​mask-heres-what-to-do/
 
2020-05-24 3:14:08 PM  

meanmutton: red5ish: Alphax: Yeah, if I want to use ApplePay while I'm buying more NyQuil and cough drops at Walgreens, I have to slip my mask off for a moment so my phone will recognize me.

That must be a horrible inconvenience for you.

I would imagine it being more of an inconvenience to the folks around him not wanting to get sick.


Do RFID wallet protectors work? Seems it would be easier to get a credit card with that chip, pull it out, boop it, and put it back into the wallet. If you are paranoid about scanners. I'm hoping mine works, at least.
 
2020-05-24 4:10:53 PM  
I had to put on an Ant Man suit in order to handle a violin of the appropriate size.

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2020-05-24 4:12:18 PM  
well... really it is causing the facial recognition industry to constrain its input data and focus on new algorithms to resolve their comparisons.

This will improve the facial recognition industries technology -- and threaten even more privacy.
 
2020-05-24 4:19:09 PM  
A year from now, hopefully you are going to look back on this pandemic and ____________.
 
2020-05-24 5:49:57 PM  

red5ish: meanmutton: red5ish: Alphax: Yeah, if I want to use ApplePay while I'm buying more NyQuil and cough drops at Walgreens, I have to slip my mask off for a moment so my phone will recognize me.

That must be a horrible inconvenience for you.

I would imagine it being more of an inconvenience to the folks around him not wanting to get sick.

After you realize you can't use Apple Pay without slipping off your mask consider other payment options.


You can't hold your breath for the 1 second it takes? And you only have to uncover your nose. It just needs eyes and nose to see that it's you.
 
2020-05-24 5:56:02 PM  

Likwit: red5ish: meanmutton: red5ish: Alphax: Yeah, if I want to use ApplePay while I'm buying more NyQuil and cough drops at Walgreens, I have to slip my mask off for a moment so my phone will recognize me.

That must be a horrible inconvenience for you.

I would imagine it being more of an inconvenience to the folks around him not wanting to get sick.

After you realize you can't use Apple Pay without slipping off your mask consider other payment options.

You can't hold your breath for the 1 second it takes? And you only have to uncover your nose. It just needs eyes and nose to see that it's you.


You don't even need to remove your mask anymore.  Look at your phone, it won't recognize you, and it will present a 'Pay with passcode' button.  Enter  your passcode. Done.
 
2020-05-24 6:04:15 PM  

Slackfumasta: Likwit: red5ish: meanmutton: red5ish: Alphax: Yeah, if I want to use ApplePay while I'm buying more NyQuil and cough drops at Walgreens, I have to slip my mask off for a moment so my phone will recognize me.

That must be a horrible inconvenience for you.

I would imagine it being more of an inconvenience to the folks around him not wanting to get sick.

After you realize you can't use Apple Pay without slipping off your mask consider other payment options.

You can't hold your breath for the 1 second it takes? And you only have to uncover your nose. It just needs eyes and nose to see that it's you.

You don't even need to remove your mask anymore.  Look at your phone, it won't recognize you, and it will present a 'Pay with passcode' button.  Enter  your passcode. Done.


Ah, the new corona update.

Yikes
 
2020-05-24 6:50:05 PM  

Original: Original Tweet:

TheOfficialACM: Face masks cover up a significant portion of what facial recognition needs to identify and detect people -- essentially threatening the future of a multimillion-dollar industry unless the technology can learn to recognize people beyond the coverings: https://t.co/ItlhU4rXX3 https://t.co/nf4uF1MSVp


I kindly tell TheOfficialACM:

GET FARKED

 
2020-05-24 6:51:59 PM  

snocone: A year from now, hopefully you are going to look back on this pandemic and ____________.


Masturbate? Yeah, probably
 
2020-05-24 7:04:36 PM  
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That's a good thing. Computer-accelerated super-creeping is BAD.
 
2020-05-24 7:27:33 PM  

jaytkay: GardenWeasel: I've had one on all my recent Androids, but the upcoming flagships have all ditched them for facial recognition.

I'm going to ride my my G6 as long as I can.

I'm considering a new phone. I just checked and everything on my list has a fingerprint sensor on the rear.

Google Pixel 3A
Motorola Moto G7 Power
Motorola Moto G7
Motorola Moto G8
Motorola Moto G8 Power

/ I have no idea what a "flagship" phone is supposed to add to my quality of life
// Don't care


Pixel 4 has no fingerprint sensor . Didn't realise, not pleased.
 
2020-05-24 8:51:07 PM  
Actually all of this might be bad news if you fear being recognized by a computer.  I suspect that the boffins who make such software are now have a huge incentive to make the computers recognize people even if they are wearing masks. If they can do this without requiring an unaffordable amount of computer resources, then the computers will be less dependent on a few locations of the face and thus will be even better when the masks come off.  If this comes to pass, then soon the computers will be better at identification then they would have been if the pandemic had never happened.


/They might also do more integration of vocal recognition.
//Not to mention smart phones whose owners whose privacy settings are lack.
///Our outfits can also be a clue as is the reality that we are likely to show up at certain places at certain times.  Sure that is not iron clad, but if it allows the computer to check against a few likely people instead of millions, it would cut down on needed computer power.
 
2020-05-24 9:09:32 PM  

billog: Pixel 4 has no fingerprint sensor . Didn't realise, not pleased.


The Pixel 4a is expected to.

"On the back, the Pixel 4a will adopt the Pixel 4's square camera patch, even though the 4a will likely tout just one lens. A traditional rear-facing capacitive fingerprint sensor will handle authentication. "
 
2020-05-24 11:20:31 PM  

tricycleracer: Alphax: Yeah, if I want to use ApplePay while I'm buying more NyQuil and cough drops at Walgreens, I have to slip my mask off for a moment so my phone will recognize me.

I have a fingerprint scanner on my lowly Samsung.


My samsung does retina scan, but all of the biometrics option are slower and less reliable than typing a 4 digit pin, so I don't know why anyone uses them in the first place.

/apple probably disabled 4 digit pins or something, right?
 
2020-05-25 3:55:06 AM  

HugeMistake: HugeMistake: My new business venture: selling masks printed to look like the lower half of somebody else's face.

Excuse me for a moment while I trademark the name "Facemask"


What will you call your catalog?
 
2020-05-25 3:59:58 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: HugeMistake: My new business venture: selling masks printed to look like the lower half of somebody else's face.

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Hey, I had to take my car in for service a few weeks ago.  Mechanic thought he was funny by wearing this.

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/to be fair, watching someone talk while wearing that IS funny as hell
 
2020-05-25 7:23:01 AM  

Z-clipped: tricycleracer: Alphax: Yeah, if I want to use ApplePay while I'm buying more NyQuil and cough drops at Walgreens, I have to slip my mask off for a moment so my phone will recognize me.

I have a fingerprint scanner on my lowly Samsung.

My samsung does retina scan, but all of the biometrics option are slower and less reliable than typing a 4 digit pin, so I don't know why anyone uses them in the first place.

/apple probably disabled 4 digit pins or something, right?


Slower? Not by a long shot.
 
2020-05-25 9:26:48 AM  

I dont want to be on this planet anymore: Meh, we'll just update the cameras to thermal and sell more.


Already exists, though I don't know how accurate it is at this point. Basically it maps the veins in your face rather than the usual facial recognition points, and works through masks and beards.

Obviously it doesn't have quite the same database to work from, but give it time.
 
2020-05-25 1:00:18 PM  

GardenWeasel: tricycleracer: Alphax: Yeah, if I want to use ApplePay while I'm buying more NyQuil and cough drops at Walgreens, I have to slip my mask off for a moment so my phone will recognize me.

I have a fingerprint scanner on my lowly Samsung.

I've had one on all my recent Androids, but the upcoming flagships have all ditched them for facial recognition.

I'm going to ride my my G6 as long as I can.


OnePlus still has them, but they're in the screen.

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2020-05-25 6:54:39 PM  

xkenny13: red5ish: meanmutton: red5ish: Alphax: Yeah, if I want to use ApplePay while I'm buying more NyQuil and cough drops at Walgreens, I have to slip my mask off for a moment so my phone will recognize me.

That must be a horrible inconvenience for you.

I would imagine it being more of an inconvenience to the folks around him not wanting to get sick.

After you realize you can't use Apple Pay without slipping off your mask consider other payment options.

The latest iOS allows you to turn off Face ID so that it asks for your PIN when you want to use Apple Pay.

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/iphones-fa​ce-id-now-unlocks-faster-when-you-wear​-a-face-mask-heres-what-to-do/


WOW! Security that isn't, just like TSA!
 
2020-05-25 8:22:13 PM  
Gee, I wonder why they deleted the tweet?
 
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