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(AP News)   "Las Vegas can never be known as the place where people go and get sick," says official on plans to reopen the City of Lost Wages in two weeks. What are the odds he's going to regret saying that?   (apnews.com) divider line
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2020-05-23 8:38:05 AM  
City officials just want things to go back to normal where people get the herp from a prostitute like in more respectable times.
 
2020-05-23 9:00:16 AM  
How will that even work?

There are literally thousands of transfer opportunities per second taking place in just one casino.
 
2020-05-23 9:05:35 AM  
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2020-05-23 10:48:07 AM  
It's always been "See Las Vegas and die".
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2020-05-23 10:48:32 AM  

markie_farkie: How will that even work?

There are literally thousands of transfer opportunities per second taking place in just one casino.


In a casino? Oh no, walking on the strip where you are shoulder to shoulder with people headed in every single direction at every time of day in an open space is the real problem.

Casinos can put in temperature monitoring stations for employees and guests. They can sanitize the shiat out of everything. They can put in place some social distancing policies for a while. I mean, it will be difficult and still be less than ideal conditions, but the strip - oof.
 
2020-05-23 10:51:21 AM  
One of the more sadly annoying trends lately has been the sudden prevalence of dipshiats equating a clear-eyed recognition of actual risk and potential subsequent consequences with hoping those things actually come to pass. As far as accurate empathetic assessments go, that's right up there with insisting that everyone laughing at Sarah Palin was actually afraid of her.

Let me reiterate: People who "think" this way and makes these assertions? Complete and utter dipshiats.
 
2020-05-23 10:53:00 AM  
Hell no. It's where people go to get broke.
 
2020-05-23 10:55:59 AM  
He said 'can'.
He meant 'should'.

And now the unfeeling Grammar Fates will rain death and sulfur upon him.
 
2020-05-23 10:56:51 AM  
Been to Vegas a few times. Gotten sick (no, not what you're thinking) during a nonzero subset of those visits. One time I didn't even realize that I was sick until I got to my next destination -- I was driving -- in central California, where I proceeded to spread the dread disease to my host family and thence to half of California.

What disease? I don't know. It was less severe than the flu and worse than any cold I'd ever had. I had a persistent dry cough, body aches, loss of smell and taste (temporary), and extreme fatigue. It lasted about a month. I'm not saying COVID-19 was around in 2014, but the list of symptoms associated with it sounds awfully familiar.

To be fair, I can't be 100% positive I picked it up in Vegas, but if I were a betting man, I'd put money on it. Wait. I am a betting man.
 
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2020-05-23 10:57:42 AM  
I guess with covid-19, what happens in Vegas, brings a new spike to the pandemic everywhere.

Restarting the pandemic is worse than picking up an STD and going broke. At least when you went before, it didn't potentially hurt thousands more.
 
2020-05-23 10:58:39 AM  
since we maight never gat a vaccine...i see some folks who want to stay closed just until then...
 
2020-05-23 10:59:51 AM  
i keep typing and watching TV...something has to give.
 
2020-05-23 11:01:49 AM  
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2020-05-23 11:03:35 AM  

the money is in the banana stand: markie_farkie: How will that even work?

There are literally thousands of transfer opportunities per second taking place in just one casino.

In a casino? Oh no, walking on the strip where you are shoulder to shoulder with people headed in every single direction at every time of day in an open space is the real problem.

Casinos can put in temperature monitoring stations for employees and guests. They can sanitize the shiat out of everything. They can put in place some social distancing policies for a while. I mean, it will be difficult and still be less than ideal conditions, but the strip - oof.


How accurate is a forehead temp scan when someone just walks in out of the desert sun?  Do you have to wait for people to cool off and stop sweating?

You could, theoretically, sanitize a slot machine between every user (though the labor would cost way more than the earnings) but tell me how you're going to sanitize craps?  Or any other table game?

There's no way a casino could operate profitably while taking effective measures to prevent the spread of virus among patrons and employees.
 
2020-05-23 11:06:15 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: What disease? I don't know. It was less severe than the flu and worse than any cold I'd ever had. I had a persistent dry cough, body aches, loss of smell and taste (temporary), and extreme fatigue. It lasted about a month. I'm not saying COVID-19 was around in 2014, but the list of symptoms associated with it sounds awfully familiar.


A lot of what you feel is due to your own immune system responding to an infection, regardless of which particular virus is triggering it. 2014 definitely wasn't COVID-19, and most of the cases of "some weird respiratory infection" going around North America in late 2019 / early January probably weren't either.
 
2020-05-23 11:06:37 AM  
Apparently that official has never had to dodge a pile of puke on the strip sidewalk.
 
2020-05-23 11:06:42 AM  
[shrug]

Or, we can close everything down and mummify in our homes.

Nobody is MAKING anyone go to Vegas. Stay away if you don't want to gamble with your lives.
 
2020-05-23 11:07:24 AM  
Las Vegas and a superbug...that sounds oddly familiar
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2020-05-23 11:10:15 AM  
A desert hellscape suddenly crowded by unhealthy, sweaty overweight behemoths otherwise known as: Average Americans.
Surely that will turn out well...
 
2020-05-23 11:10:45 AM  
Worst part is Vegas is a hub. Lots of people come in from everywhere then return to everywhere. Much bigger problem than many other cities opening.
 
2020-05-23 11:10:59 AM  
On your way out of Vegas, stop in for a free blood cleansing.  If you sold a kidney in town, show them the scar for a free upgrade and a full body UV treatment.
 
2020-05-23 11:12:38 AM  
The heat will kill the virus.  Of course Las Vegas is mostly AC'd but that brief moment when you step out of the airport and hail a cab should do it.
 
2020-05-23 11:13:12 AM  

peachpicker: One of the more sadly annoying trends lately has been the sudden prevalence of dipshiats equating a clear-eyed recognition of actual risk and potential subsequent consequences with hoping those things actually come to pass. As far as accurate empathetic assessments go, that's right up there with insisting that everyone laughing at Sarah Palin was actually afraid of her.

Let me reiterate: People who "think" this way and makes these assertions? Complete and utter dipshiats.


Farking hilarious.  Go into a Florida beach thread or a church opening thread and count the number of people "just acknowledging the risk" in between Darwin posts and the posts saying how they cant wait until these people die so it helps their party win.  You're totally right, no one actually wants it to happen, they're just recognizing the consequences.
 
2020-05-23 11:14:45 AM  
Las Vegas resident and DMV employee.

It's gonna get bad. They're bringing us in to work next week but not opening to the public yet. That kinda tells me all they need to know about how the people who gotta handle this really think the transmission risks are.

We also got a lotta "muh freedoms!" idiots here of all stripes, from Trumpsuckers to nigh-anarchists.

Oh, it'll spike back up, then they're gonna have to close it down harder. That'll be great for the ol' bottom line.
 
2020-05-23 11:16:00 AM  
Rumor is MGM is already booked to capacity and might be opening some more properties even earlier than planned


The conventions are booked solid from Aug on, they tried virtual conventions and everyone hated it.

Which makes sense since most everyone who has ever been to a trade show or convention knows you get one solid day of floor and seminar time and the rest of your time you sporadicly show up due to some "bad sushi" while networking after hours.
 
2020-05-23 11:16:09 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Madman drummers bummers: What disease? I don't know. It was less severe than the flu and worse than any cold I'd ever had. I had a persistent dry cough, body aches, loss of smell and taste (temporary), and extreme fatigue. It lasted about a month. I'm not saying COVID-19 was around in 2014, but the list of symptoms associated with it sounds awfully familiar.

A lot of what you feel is due to your own immune system responding to an infection, regardless of which particular virus is triggering it. 2014 definitely wasn't COVID-19, and most of the cases of "some weird respiratory infection" going around North America in late 2019 / early January probably weren't either.


I realized after I posted that my comment might be interpreted as "I secretly believe it was COVID because the symptoms were similar," but that wasn't my intent. I meant it as I phrased it: it didn't exist back then, but I had similar symptoms.

I also drove by Area 51 on that trip, and stopped for gas nearby, and I'm not saying it was aliens either.
 
2020-05-23 11:16:57 AM  

pearls before swine: the money is in the banana stand: markie_farkie: How will that even work?

There are literally thousands of transfer opportunities per second taking place in just one casino.

In a casino? Oh no, walking on the strip where you are shoulder to shoulder with people headed in every single direction at every time of day in an open space is the real problem.

Casinos can put in temperature monitoring stations for employees and guests. They can sanitize the shiat out of everything. They can put in place some social distancing policies for a while. I mean, it will be difficult and still be less than ideal conditions, but the strip - oof.

How accurate is a forehead temp scan when someone just walks in out of the desert sun?  Do you have to wait for people to cool off and stop sweating?

You could, theoretically, sanitize a slot machine between every user (though the labor would cost way more than the earnings) but tell me how you're going to sanitize craps?  Or any other table game?

There's no way a casino could operate profitably while taking effective measures to prevent the spread of virus among patrons and employees.


Fever isn't a reliable indicator anyway. Temperature screening helps by catching the fraction of people who do develop that symptom, but it does not ensure safety.

Sanitizing surfaces also helps, but surfaces are not the only route of transmission for this virus. It also spreads through the air, and one person sitting at a slot machine will be generating a cloud of droplets slowly drifting around the room. Good luck sanitizing that air before the next person breathes it in.
 
2020-05-23 11:18:08 AM  
"Farking hilarious.  Go into a Florida beach thread or a church opening thread and count the number of people "just acknowledging the risk in.... blah blah blah..."


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2020-05-23 11:19:03 AM  

rudemix: Worst part is Vegas is a hub. Lots of people come in from everywhere then return to everywhere. Much bigger problem than many other cities opening.


This. One of my customer's mentioned she was flying out to Vegas yesterday.

I'm going to make sure it is a few weeks before I do any service calls at their office.
 
2020-05-23 11:19:45 AM  

pearls before swine: the money is in the banana stand: markie_farkie: How will that even work?

There are literally thousands of transfer opportunities per second taking place in just one casino.

In a casino? Oh no, walking on the strip where you are shoulder to shoulder with people headed in every single direction at every time of day in an open space is the real problem.

Casinos can put in temperature monitoring stations for employees and guests. They can sanitize the shiat out of everything. They can put in place some social distancing policies for a while. I mean, it will be difficult and still be less than ideal conditions, but the strip - oof.

How accurate is a forehead temp scan when someone just walks in out of the desert sun?  Do you have to wait for people to cool off and stop sweating?

You could, theoretically, sanitize a slot machine between every user (though the labor would cost way more than the earnings) but tell me how you're going to sanitize craps?  Or any other table game?

There's no way a casino could operate profitably while taking effective measures to prevent the spread of virus among patrons and employees.


Well, the scanners are actually camera kiosks and they are very accurate. It does not measure surface temp. I would imagine some casinos would institute a turnstile kiosk check point to gain access into the casino space. Some have already done this and they check IDs before being allowed on the floor. What would be easier to control would be employee access. These scanning devices can be tied to access cards and will not even grant access if their temp is over a certain threshold. Generally, for public spaces if you get flagged, you are moved to another area where a manned temperature check can be conducted, like how if the metal detector goes off you get sanded.

The sanitization methods in the casino will be fairly impossible. There is only so much that can be done. This is actually true of pretty much everywhere. I mean, casinos have ridiculous assets to even attempt something like this, but most businesses don't. Unfortunately, we cannot just keep everywhere shut down because we can never guarantee safety. We can do our best, but that's it. Life must move forward. The thing is though, you do not have to patronize these places if you feel unsafe.
 
2020-05-23 11:21:48 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: Been to Vegas a few times. Gotten sick (no, not what you're thinking) during a nonzero subset of those visits. One time I didn't even realize that I was sick until I got to my next destination -- I was driving -- in central California, where I proceeded to spread the dread disease to my host family and thence to half of California.

What disease? I don't know. It was less severe than the flu and worse than any cold I'd ever had. I had a persistent dry cough, body aches, loss of smell and taste (temporary), and extreme fatigue. It lasted about a month. I'm not saying COVID-19 was around in 2014, but the list of symptoms associated with it sounds awfully familiar.

To be fair, I can't be 100% positive I picked it up in Vegas, but if I were a betting man, I'd put money on it. Wait. I am a betting man.


Coronavirus was still around back then. Not this one, but plenty of them were around.  They have a variety of symptoms.  The covid-19 pneumonia and cytokine storm catch-22 is fairly unique, as is the 2 week gestation and no-symptom stuff. It alL exists in nature but
It's Amazing to see so
Many  bad things in a single one.  Which is why I think this was engineered to study community spread in animals, and it got out.  But it COULD happen naturally.

Likely, you had a coronavirus.
 
2020-05-23 11:25:01 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: The heat will kill the virus.  Of course Las Vegas is mostly AC'd but that brief moment when you step out of the airport and hail a cab should do it.


Vegas cabs can be bigger scams than the casinos. I once hailed one from the airport to Luxor. If you check a map, you'll see that Luxor is basically right next to the airport, in Paradise. This cabbie gave me the scenic tour of Fremont and North Vegas before turning around. I mean, I know LVB is a giant parking lot, but that was ridiculous. Then he had the chutzpah to try to shame me for only leaving a 10% tip (hey, I didn't die or get de-kidneyed, so I call that a win).

On the other paw, it's hard to find Uber at the airport. Taxi stands are well-designated. For Uber, you have to follow small signs up a flight of stairs -- no escalator -- across an overpass, down more stairs, through a maze of twisty little passages, all alike (you are likely to be eaten by a grue), up two flights in a rickety parking garage elevator, across a tightrope stretched over the Mirage's white tigers, then type in a 17-digit passcode at a secret door, and enter a small closet with a sign that says "Beware the Leopard."

Okay, I may be exaggerating a little. But only a little.
 
2020-05-23 11:25:38 AM  
After my first visit, Las Vegas is still the only US city I've refused a conference speaking invitation as it's a soulless hellhole, and I've even been to Galveston more than once (i.e, twice).
 
2020-05-23 11:29:36 AM  

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2020-05-23 11:29:51 AM  

Ivo Shandor: pearls before swine: the money is in the banana stand: markie_farkie: How will that even work?


Sanitizing surfaces also helps, but surfaces are not the only route of transmission for this virus. It also spreads through the air, and one person sitting at a slot machine will be generating a cloud of droplets slowly drifting around the room. Good luck sanitizing that air before the next person breathes it in.


The disease doez NOT have airborne transmission. However, difficult to limit interactions between patrons, and almost impossible between patrons and staff.
 
2020-05-23 11:31:03 AM  
My wife works at Aria in conventions and they're opening in July although there aren't very many conventions booked. The first month will be pretty much maintenance and unmothballing stuff.
 
2020-05-23 11:31:44 AM  
What part of population control to you all not get?
 
2020-05-23 11:32:08 AM  

Mr_Vimes: After my first visit, Las Vegas is still the only US city I've refused a conference speaking invitation as it's a soulless hellhole, and I've even been to Galveston more than once (i.e, twice).


Ahhhhh did someone fall in love with the girl at the hotel lobby bar only to find out she wanted to he compensated for her time ?

If all you ever see of Vegas is Freemont or The Strip I guess that your opinion can be warrented but for those of us that live here Vegas has a lot to offer and is not really any different than any other city.
 
2020-05-23 11:34:15 AM  

snoopy2zero: Mr_Vimes: After my first visit, Las Vegas is still the only US city I've refused a conference speaking invitation as it's a soulless hellhole, and I've even been to Galveston more than once (i.e, twice).

Ahhhhh did someone fall in love with the girl at the hotel lobby bar only to find out she wanted to he compensated for her time ?

If all you ever see of Vegas is Freemont or The Strip I guess that your opinion can be warrented but for those of us that live here Vegas has a lot to offer and is not really any different than any other city.


This is truth. I didn't really know until I moved here but without the strip we're just another city but in the desert.
 
2020-05-23 11:36:24 AM  

Mr_Vimes: After my first visit, Las Vegas is still the only US city I've refused a conference speaking invitation as it's a soulless hellhole, and I've even been to Galveston more than once (i.e, twice).


What? The people watching in Vegas is fantastic! Stay away from the traps and it is pretty awesome. Room service, gambling, great pools with cabanas and bottle service, personal transport, great shows, fantastic food. Fremont street is horrible, but whatever.

I usually do a few long weekends there and it is probably the cheapest trip I do, especially for what I get. Since I gamble, everything is comped. Rooms, food, shows, spa and sometimes flights. When the flights are not comped, I use free miles. The only expense would be tips and the occasional purchase at a store or some impromptu excursion which is rare. Whenever I go, my wife and I have a system and budget the trip like you would any other trip with our gambling money. We plan to lose all of that gambling money and counting it as if we were not gambling and paying for everything out of pocket. Seldomly do we come back with no money, and most times we actually come back with more than we started with. We are almost getting paid to vacation. Not a bad deal. To top it all off, we have our own host and treated like royalty versus just another pleab at some backwater resort on a beach.

All of this can be done with a short plane trip still in the States with every modern luxury you can imagine. I have gone up plenty of times where I was in the middle of large projects working remotely and enjoying myself.
 
2020-05-23 11:36:42 AM  
I wonder if they can just up the UV at the strip clubs to help with sanitizing?
 
7 days ago  

Bslim: "Farking hilarious.  Go into a Florida beach thread or a church opening thread and count the number of people "just acknowledging the risk in.... blah blah blah..."


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You basement dwellers are so cute with your clever little names and pictures.
 
7 days ago  

Wynn Duffy's Eyebrows: My wife works at Aria in conventions and they're opening in July although there aren't very many conventions booked. The first month will be pretty much maintenance and unmothballing stuff.


I have a room reserved at Aria for August, booked late last year before the feces impacted the spinning blades. It's unlikely I'll be going there then. I'm not that big a gambler.
 
7 days ago  
They should just do away with Las Vegas altogether.
 
7 days ago  

wantingout: They should just do away with Las Vegas altogether.


Didn't i see you and your friends on The Strip  NYE 2 years ago ?

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Jeebus Saves: Bslim: "Farking hilarious.  Go into a Florida beach thread or a church opening thread and count the number of people "just acknowledging the risk in.... blah blah blah..."


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Madman drummers bummers: Harry Freakstorm: The heat will kill the virus.  Of course Las Vegas is mostly AC'd but that brief moment when you step out of the airport and hail a cab should do it.

Vegas cabs can be bigger scams than the casinos. I once hailed one from the airport to Luxor. If you check a map, you'll see that Luxor is basically right next to the airport, in Paradise. This cabbie gave me the scenic tour of Fremont and North Vegas before turning around. I mean, I know LVB is a giant parking lot, but that was ridiculous. Then he had the chutzpah to try to shame me for only leaving a 10% tip (hey, I didn't die or get de-kidneyed, so I call that a win).

On the other paw, it's hard to find Uber at the airport. Taxi stands are well-designated. For Uber, you have to follow small signs up a flight of stairs -- no escalator -- across an overpass, down more stairs, through a maze of twisty little passages, all alike (you are likely to be eaten by a grue), up two flights in a rickety parking garage elevator, across a tightrope stretched over the Mirage's white tigers, then type in a 17-digit passcode at a secret door, and enter a small closet with a sign that says "Beware the Leopard."

Okay, I may be exaggerating a little. But only a little.


I drove for Uber and Lyft for a year in Vegas and what a shiat show airport runs where. So many times I get to the parking garage and have to sit there for 20 mins directing people how to get to the Uber pick up spot. They really make it confusing for people.

Then have people with way to much luggage for a car (And I drove a Impala) jam into the trunk and back seats while damaging the trunk lining and interior of my car. Just to spend another 40 minutes in traffic, while only going two miles. Profit $3 no tip.

Nope never again, never do that job again. Too many crazies, too much BS.

To open the casinos right now is still a mistake. Even with testing at the door infection is still going to spread as allot are asymptomatic. One of the things people love to do when they're gambling is smoke and blowing all that smoke around it's just going to help the spread.
 
7 days ago  

thedingoatemybaby: The disease doez NOT have airborne transmission. However, difficult to limit interactions between patrons, and almost impossible between patrons and staff.


They weasel-word it by calling it "droplet" rather than "airborne" transmission, but for practical purposes it is spread through liquid respiratory droplets (containing virus) which are light enough to stay suspended in the air for minutes to hours.

See for example: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/arc​h​ive/2020/05/how-will-we-ever-be-safe-i​nside/611953/
 
7 days ago  
This is one of many interesting pandemic experiments being carried out around the country. I will be monitoring the results of these experiments from the safety of my home for the time being. Much as I'd like to go to a show or restaurant, it is not clear to me that we're ready to start getting too careless.
 
7 days ago  
That sounds like fun!
 
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