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2020-05-23 8:09:16 AM  
Drtfa.
Farks mascot lives in trees
Racing stripe rats in the ground
 
2020-05-23 8:21:26 AM  
I'll take "Because they evolved for different survival strategies" for a thousand Alex.
 
2020-05-23 9:55:44 AM  
At first glance, it's easy to mistake a squirrel for a chipmunk.

If you're extremely high, maybe. Like "edibles ain't shiat, what do you mean I was only supposed to have half a cookie, I had like, a dozen. I like cookies now I'm going to lie down on the couch because I am now so stoned I can't move" high.
 
2020-05-23 10:02:42 AM  
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2020-05-23 10:12:24 AM  
Grad student from my department wrote the Conversation article, she's nuts for squirrels.
 
2020-05-23 10:30:19 AM  
One of the coolest memories I have of hunting is being in the woods and watching them wake up as the sun rises in the morning.

One morning, I'm standing at the corner of a long-fallow field, with a low fence made out of the rocks some farmer spent time and effort digging out of that field maybe a hundred or even two hundred years before.  The sun is just over the horizon but I'm still in shadow because of the hills.

I hear a rustle, and I look down and there is a chipmunk a few feet away.   As I'm standing there watching it, it actually scurries across my boots.

One of the coolest things.
 
2020-05-23 10:33:39 AM  

dittybopper: One of the coolest memories I have of hunting is being in the woods and watching them wake up as the sun rises in the morning.

One morning, I'm standing at the corner of a long-fallow field, with a low fence made out of the rocks some farmer spent time and effort digging out of that field maybe a hundred or even two hundred years before.  The sun is just over the horizon but I'm still in shadow because of the hills.

I hear a rustle, and I look down and there is a chipmunk a few feet away.   As I'm standing there watching it, it actually scurries across my boots.

One of the coolest things.


I read this with the all the awe and wonder of a Texan  with a sub-80 IQ at a Joel Osteen concert.

I absolutely cannot wait to go camping next weekend.

/My lungs are a lost cause, so I've been 'warenteenin from the 'rona
//outdoors is starting to feel like an abstract concept
 
2020-05-23 10:41:09 AM  
Male squirrels can't really walk on the ground very well due to their overly large testicles. The ones you see on the ground are just the females.
 
2020-05-23 10:57:29 AM  
Because Lord Rama blessed the chipmunk.
 
2020-05-23 11:32:44 AM  
Did the same writer pen this headlibe?

Because...wow.
 
2020-05-23 11:55:05 AM  
The answer has a lot to do with how chipmunks and squirrels spend their winters. Like tiny survivalists with a paranoia streak, chipmunks winter in vast underground bunkers.

When you're on the business end of the food chain, you'd hole up in a bunker, too.
 
2020-05-23 11:56:19 AM  

dittybopper: One of the coolest memories I have of hunting is being in the woods and watching them wake up as the sun rises in the morning.

One morning, I'm standing at the corner of a long-fallow field, with a low fence made out of the rocks some farmer spent time and effort digging out of that field maybe a hundred or even two hundred years before.  The sun is just over the horizon but I'm still in shadow because of the hills.

I hear a rustle, and I look down and there is a chipmunk a few feet away.   As I'm standing there watching it, it actually scurries across my boots.

One of the coolest things.


oooooooor you go to the zoo and see 500 chipmunks, 300 peacocks and they still wont say why the rhino isnt anywhere to be seen
 
2020-05-23 12:03:47 PM  
Oh, they can be persuaded ...

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2020-05-23 12:22:08 PM  
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2020-05-23 12:48:00 PM  
Ever hear a dog yell "chipmunk" and take off? No.
 
2020-05-23 1:04:05 PM  
Well, that certainly is an article that I have no interest reading.  I'm just finishing up my own far more important article titled "Why is My Left Foot on the Left Side and My Right Foot on the Right?"
 
2020-05-23 1:42:29 PM  

jerryskid: Well, that certainly is an article that I have no interest reading.  I'm just finishing up my own far more important article titled "Why is My Left Foot on the Left Side and My Right Foot on the Right?"


You're so wrong. It's about evolution. Think about it. A squirrel--a chipmunk. So alike, and yet so different.

/Stares at squirrels
 
2020-05-23 2:11:31 PM  

jerryskid: Well, that certainly is an article that I have no interest reading.  I'm just finishing up my own far more important article titled "Why is My Left Foot on the Left Side and My Right Foot on the Right?"


Finding out about ground squirrels might make the writer's head asplode.
 
2020-05-23 2:18:33 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: jerryskid: Well, that certainly is an article that I have no interest reading.  I'm just finishing up my own far more important article titled "Why is My Left Foot on the Left Side and My Right Foot on the Right?"
Finding out about ground squirrels might make the writer's head asplode.


There are ground squirrels in Arizona that look exactly like tree squirrels, complete with long fluffy tail. In the desert.

/head asplodes
 
2020-05-23 2:43:31 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: jerryskid: Well, that certainly is an article that I have no interest reading.  I'm just finishing up my own far more important article titled "Why is My Left Foot on the Left Side and My Right Foot on the Right?"

Finding out about ground squirrels might make the writer's head asplode.


When I lived in the boonies out here in CA it was all kamikaze ground squirrels. They'd just run out into your tires as you drove along. They kept the condors well fed.

I learned that they'll eat the contents of a freshly squished brother's stomach.

Also you can eat tree squirrels but not the ground ones. I'm not sure why but that was the lore.
 
2020-05-23 2:45:37 PM  
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2020-05-23 2:50:06 PM  

MurphyMurphy: dittybopper: One of the coolest memories I have of hunting is being in the woods and watching them wake up as the sun rises in the morning.

One morning, I'm standing at the corner of a long-fallow field, with a low fence made out of the rocks some farmer spent time and effort digging out of that field maybe a hundred or even two hundred years before.  The sun is just over the horizon but I'm still in shadow because of the hills.

I hear a rustle, and I look down and there is a chipmunk a few feet away.   As I'm standing there watching it, it actually scurries across my boots.

One of the coolest things.

I read this with the all the awe and wonder of a Texan  with a sub-80 IQ at a Joel Osteen concert.

I absolutely cannot wait to go camping next weekend.

/My lungs are a lost cause, so I've been 'warenteenin from the 'rona
//outdoors is starting to feel like an abstract concept


I kinda miss doing that.  Maybe I'll go hunting again this year.  I stopped a few years back because I threw my arm out coaching little league.

Chickadees are fearless.  They will fly right by your head.   My Elmer (guy who helped me when I was a young amateur radio operator) used to hand-feed them.  At his house if you stood still with some birdseed in your outstretched palm, they would land on your hand and eat.

It's amazing too, how loud a 6 oz squirrel can sound going through the woods, compared to how quiet a 200 lb deer can be.

Yeah, now that my arm is better, I need to get back to it.
 
2020-05-23 4:01:39 PM  

jerryskid: Well, that certainly is an article that I have no interest reading.  I'm just finishing up my own far more important article titled "Why is My Left Foot on the Left Side and My Right Foot on the Right?"


I just hope the article was Pinky answering with a non sequitur that's more relevant than at first glance
 
2020-05-23 4:18:26 PM  
The thing is, humans have no idea why squirrels scavenge seeds and nuts. They don't find most of the stuff they hide, and everyone with an oak or walnut knows they throw the vast, almost galactic-star numbers of nuts and seeds on the ground and ignore them.

Squirrels are one of those species that show "science" is a farked up hobby for most "scientists" and the knowledge of zoology and ethology is all in Indigenous knowledge.

/most
 
2020-05-23 4:44:50 PM  

hubiestubert: I'll take "Because they evolved for different survival strategies" for a thousand Alex.


Also they avoid direct competition for habitat by evolving tree versus ground dwelling strategies.
 
2020-05-23 4:47:27 PM  
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2020-05-23 4:57:59 PM  

dittybopper: MurphyMurphy: dittybopper: One of the coolest memories I have of hunting is being in the woods and watching them wake up as the sun rises in the morning.

One morning, I'm standing at the corner of a long-fallow field, with a low fence made out of the rocks some farmer spent time and effort digging out of that field maybe a hundred or even two hundred years before.  The sun is just over the horizon but I'm still in shadow because of the hills.

I hear a rustle, and I look down and there is a chipmunk a few feet away.   As I'm standing there watching it, it actually scurries across my boots.

One of the coolest things.

I read this with the all the awe and wonder of a Texan  with a sub-80 IQ at a Joel Osteen concert.

I absolutely cannot wait to go camping next weekend.

/My lungs are a lost cause, so I've been 'warenteenin from the 'rona
//outdoors is starting to feel like an abstract concept

I kinda miss doing that.  Maybe I'll go hunting again this year.  I stopped a few years back because I threw my arm out coaching little league.

Chickadees are fearless.  They will fly right by your head.   My Elmer (guy who helped me when I was a young amateur radio operator) used to hand-feed them.  At his house if you stood still with some birdseed in your outstretched palm, they would land on your hand and eat.

It's amazing too, how loud a 6 oz squirrel can sound going through the woods, compared to how quiet a 200 lb deer can be.

Yeah, now that my arm is better, I need to get back to it.


Years ago, I noticed a chipmunk pop out of a hole next to our porch. So, I dropped some bird seed on the porch. Now, I keep a tiny water dish out there and drop food every morning. If I oversleep or forget to put the food out, a chipmunk or two will stand on our front porch yelling "PeepPeep" at top volume until I come to feed them. We can sit in our living room and watch their antics.
 
2020-05-23 6:26:50 PM  
Chip and Dale's rescue rangers.
 
2020-05-23 6:42:38 PM  

dittybopper: One of the coolest memories I have of hunting is being in the woods and watching them wake up as the sun rises in the morning.

One morning, I'm standing at the corner of a long-fallow field, with a low fence made out of the rocks some farmer spent time and effort digging out of that field maybe a hundred or even two hundred years before.  The sun is just over the horizon but I'm still in shadow because of the hills.

I hear a rustle, and I look down and there is a chipmunk a few feet away.   As I'm standing there watching it, it actually scurries across my boots.

One of the coolest things.


Did you shoot your foot?
 
2020-05-23 7:37:16 PM  
What about ground squirrels?
 
2020-05-23 11:39:03 PM  
Don't get me started on burrow owls.

/ STUART!
 
2020-05-23 11:41:31 PM  

Bruscar: dittybopper: MurphyMurphy: dittybopper: One of the coolest memories I have of hunting is being in the woods and watching them wake up as the sun rises in the morning.

One morning, I'm standing at the corner of a long-fallow field, with a low fence made out of the rocks some farmer spent time and effort digging out of that field maybe a hundred or even two hundred years before.  The sun is just over the horizon but I'm still in shadow because of the hills.

I hear a rustle, and I look down and there is a chipmunk a few feet away.   As I'm standing there watching it, it actually scurries across my boots.

One of the coolest things.

I read this with the all the awe and wonder of a Texan  with a sub-80 IQ at a Joel Osteen concert.

I absolutely cannot wait to go camping next weekend.

/My lungs are a lost cause, so I've been 'warenteenin from the 'rona
//outdoors is starting to feel like an abstract concept

I kinda miss doing that.  Maybe I'll go hunting again this year.  I stopped a few years back because I threw my arm out coaching little league.

Chickadees are fearless.  They will fly right by your head.   My Elmer (guy who helped me when I was a young amateur radio operator) used to hand-feed them.  At his house if you stood still with some birdseed in your outstretched palm, they would land on your hand and eat.

It's amazing too, how loud a 6 oz squirrel can sound going through the woods, compared to how quiet a 200 lb deer can be.

Yeah, now that my arm is better, I need to get back to it.

Years ago, I noticed a chipmunk pop out of a hole next to our porch. So, I dropped some bird seed on the porch. Now, I keep a tiny water dish out there and drop food every morning. If I oversleep or forget to put the food out, a chipmunk or two will stand on our front porch yelling "PeepPeep" at top volume until I come to feed them. We can sit in our living room and watch their antics.


That's the same way you get rid of a tapeworm...
 
2020-05-23 11:54:45 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: The thing is, humans have no idea why squirrels scavenge seeds and nuts. They don't find most of the stuff they hide, and everyone with an oak or walnut knows they throw the vast, almost galactic-star numbers of nuts and seeds on the ground and ignore them.

Squirrels are one of those species that show "science" is a farked up hobby for most "scientists" and the knowledge of zoology and ethology is all in Indigenous knowledge.

/most


They do that because that is how they evolved. It is a strategy that benefits the species in the long run by making sure lots of seeds and nuts of plants they need are buried, protected and allowed to grow. It isn't a conscious practice, but they do benefit.

Consider the case of the whispering aspen. They are a clonal colony species. It's thought that there have been no new aspen colonies established in millennia. They may have had an animal species they relied on to disperse the seeds as an incidental thing. They can produce seeds but they don't actively reproduce by seed.

Hedgeapples were supposedly spread by animal companions, now long since disappeared. They rely on us to intervene to spread them now.

The world is full of examples of how living things use one another as part of their life cycles. Sometimes it's a fungus taking over your central nervous system and make you wait to be eaten by a bird. Other times it is a quirky little mammal whose lousy memory means a good portion of your genetic inheritance is kept safe and can grow even if some is eaten in the process.

To you it may make no sense at all but we are dealing with lower level mammals with lots of instinct programmed into them. They can adapt very well to circumstances and learn, but the instincts remain, including squirreling things away and then forgetting about them. The lack of persistence is very specific to the action of squirreling something away. They can remember things outside of that context. But the forgetting is very important to the future wellbeing of its descendants, possibly as important as the hiding away of the food it does remember is for its own survival.
 
2020-05-24 1:55:27 AM  
All you need to do is cut a large tree down at ground level, then dig out all the roots so you essentially have a below ground tree. Then place squirrels and chipmunks down there and let them fight for supremacy. Seeing who wins won't answer your questions but it will raise new ones.
 
2020-05-24 4:58:43 AM  

SafetyThird: Also you can eat tree squirrels but not the ground ones. I'm not sure why but that was the lore.


What region are you at?  Out in the plains, you can very much eat Prairie Dogs.  They can be adapted to any chicken recipe as long as you add at least an extra hour to the cooking time.  Very curious to know if it is a preference thing on your end or if there's an underlying danger to gobbling up your ground squirrels.
 
2020-05-24 8:25:24 AM  

DrunkenBob: SafetyThird: Also you can eat tree squirrels but not the ground ones. I'm not sure why but that was the lore.

What region are you at?  Out in the plains, you can very much eat Prairie Dogs.  They can be adapted to any chicken recipe as long as you add at least an extra hour to the cooking time.  Very curious to know if it is a preference thing on your end or if there's an underlying danger to gobbling up your ground squirrels.


Don't prairie dogs carry bubonic plague?
 
2020-05-24 12:29:48 PM  

The Smails Kid: DrunkenBob: SafetyThird: Also you can eat tree squirrels but not the ground ones. I'm not sure why but that was the lore.

What region are you at?  Out in the plains, you can very much eat Prairie Dogs.  They can be adapted to any chicken recipe as long as you add at least an extra hour to the cooking time.  Very curious to know if it is a preference thing on your end or if there's an underlying danger to gobbling up your ground squirrels.

Don't prairie dogs carry bubonic plague?


Just about any small mammal in the western US is a potential plague vector.
 
2020-05-24 2:24:26 PM  

Gergesa: Chip and Dale's rescue rangers.


Safe search *off*
 
2020-05-24 5:07:36 PM  

cryinoutloud: common sense is an oxymoron: jerryskid: Well, that certainly is an article that I have no interest reading.  I'm just finishing up my own far more important article titled "Why is My Left Foot on the Left Side and My Right Foot on the Right?"
Finding out about ground squirrels might make the writer's head asplode.

There are ground squirrels in Arizona that look exactly like tree squirrels, complete with long fluffy tail. In the desert.

/head asplodes


Well, all those posts represent more effort than is necessary to study the habit of chipmonks vs squirrels.  FFS, they might have just studied why polar bears don't climb trees or why salmon don't do well in the Sahara Desert.
 
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