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(KETV Omaha)   Iowa meatpacking plant worker dies from COVID-19 one week before he would've retired   (ketv.com) divider line
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2020-05-22 8:23:13 PM  
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2020-05-22 8:28:35 PM  
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2020-05-22 8:36:09 PM  
I think you mean man heroically spends entire life working and refuses to be a drain on the government once he reaches advanced age. Remember, never rely on the government spend your entire life working and then die before you qualify for medicare, praise be to the glorious job creators.

/ Would you like to know more?
 
2020-05-22 8:44:00 PM  
Wouldn't his survivors still be eligible for benefits by  using the 'sick days' to his death?
 
2020-05-22 9:55:03 PM  

optikeye: Wouldn't his survivors still be eligible for benefits by  using the 'sick days' to his death?


Depends on exactly what the plan was. If it was a 401 (k), the balance is what it is. If he was one of those rare ones covered by a defined benefit plan, the answer is maybe (several question have to be answered first).
 
2020-05-23 12:11:00 AM  

optikeye: Wouldn't his survivors still be eligible for benefits by  using the 'sick days' to his death?


Probably, but the company will probably counter their efforts by keeping their claim in the courts until they give up due to financial attrition. At best, they'll get a small fraction of the survivor benefits they're due, and it'll be just barely enough to cover the legal costs they incurred just to get that settlement.
 
2020-05-23 2:53:32 AM  
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2020-05-23 3:31:26 AM  
Soooo, they're hiring?
 
2020-05-23 3:35:41 AM  
Was his name Murtaugh? Was he getting too old for that shiat?

/RIP supplier of delicious meat
 
2020-05-23 3:46:40 AM  

whereisian: Was his name Murtaugh? Was he getting too old for that shiat?

/RIP supplier of delicious meat


10 minutes too late. Getting
tired of this shiat.
 
2020-05-23 3:46:55 AM  
I'm sure this is only the first. There will be a lot more if this one goes to court.
 
2020-05-23 3:47:51 AM  
Oh you won't take me?
To Marshalltown.

Said no one ever.
 
2020-05-23 3:52:16 AM  

foo monkey: Soooo, they're hiring?


If you like working minimum wage at a job that is almost certain to give you COVID...knock yourself out.

/There's a reason why the employees are mostly immigrants.
//Also the reason why most are having trouble staying open as COVID spreads...
 
2020-05-23 3:55:11 AM  
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2020-05-23 3:57:20 AM  

IlGreven: foo monkey: Soooo, they're hiring?

If you like working minimum wage at a job that is almost certain to give you COVID...knock yourself out.

/There's a reason why the employees are mostly immigrants.
//Also the reason why most are having trouble staying open as COVID spreads...


seriously doubt you're using a knife for minimum wage at a meat packing plant. you have to know what you're doing and be quick at it, major hustle. they work ass off. they're getting paid.
 
2020-05-23 4:11:29 AM  

sinko swimo: IlGreven: foo monkey: Soooo, they're hiring?

If you like working minimum wage at a job that is almost certain to give you COVID...knock yourself out.

/There's a reason why the employees are mostly immigrants.
//Also the reason why most are having trouble staying open as COVID spreads...

seriously doubt you're using a knife for minimum wage at a meat packing plant. you have to know what you're doing and be quick at it, major hustle. they work ass off. they're getting paid.


...dude, this is America. The harder you work, the less you're paid.

And again, mostly immigrants.
 
2020-05-23 4:39:15 AM  
One more week.  One more week and I'm out.  And now I'm gonna buy it at this goddamned plant!

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2020-05-23 5:03:06 AM  
 
2020-05-23 5:08:37 AM  
lol we all gunna die
 
2020-05-23 5:21:46 AM  

Anenu: I think you mean man heroically spends entire life working and refuses to be a drain on the government once he reaches advanced age. Remember, never rely on the government spend your entire life working and then die before you qualify for medicare, praise be to the glorious job creators.

/ Would you like to know more?


An "economic martyr"...

Only 'Mur'ca could possibly produce such a thing.
 
2020-05-23 5:59:55 AM  

IlGreven: ...dude, this is America. The harder you work, the less you're paid.


Yep. He might get a buck or two more than minimum wage for his unsafe, non-union slave job - but your point stands.
America is for the Ownership Class - we threw the Worker under the bus in 1980.
 
2020-05-23 6:13:13 AM  

King Something: optikeye: Wouldn't his survivors still be eligible for benefits by  using the 'sick days' to his death?

Probably, but the company will probably counter their efforts by keeping their claim in the courts until they give up due to financial attrition. At best, they'll get a small fraction of the survivor benefits they're due, and it'll be just barely enough to cover the legal costs they incurred just to get that settlement.


Nah. The company would spend 5-6X the amount saved in legal costs to hang it up.

But I do wonder if the company employs a "dead peasant" insurance policy on their workers.
 
2020-05-23 6:25:35 AM  

Another Government Employee: King Something: optikeye: Wouldn't his survivors still be eligible for benefits by  using the 'sick days' to his death?

Probably, but the company will probably counter their efforts by keeping their claim in the courts until they give up due to financial attrition. At best, they'll get a small fraction of the survivor benefits they're due, and it'll be just barely enough to cover the legal costs they incurred just to get that settlement.

Nah. The company would spend 5-6X the amount saved in legal costs to hang it up.

But I do wonder if the company employs a "dead peasant" insurance policy on their workers.


They can't take out a life insurance policy directly in the worker without the worker knowing, but they could probably insure themselves against any costs arising from employee accidents (physical damage, cleanup, maybe settlements).
 
2020-05-23 6:36:20 AM  
This is too farked up for a Hallmark movie ... but the story rights would probably replace the pension for the fam.
 
2020-05-23 6:37:29 AM  

qorkfiend: Another Government Employee: King Something: optikeye: Wouldn't his survivors still be eligible for benefits by  using the 'sick days' to his death?

Probably, but the company will probably counter their efforts by keeping their claim in the courts until they give up due to financial attrition. At best, they'll get a small fraction of the survivor benefits they're due, and it'll be just barely enough to cover the legal costs they incurred just to get that settlement.

Nah. The company would spend 5-6X the amount saved in legal costs to hang it up.

But I do wonder if the company employs a "dead peasant" insurance policy on their workers.

They can't take out a life insurance policy directly in the worker without the worker knowing, but they could probably insure themselves against any costs arising from employee accidents (physical damage, cleanup, maybe settlements).


The employment agreement probably includes that clause.
 
2020-05-23 6:57:14 AM  

foo monkey: Soooo, they're hiring?


I had a "friend" on FB moaning about how this shutdown was costing American jobs.  I posted that if they were really hard up for money, that I heard the meat packing plants really needed people.  It was soundly ignored but at least they quit posting that shiat.
 
2020-05-23 7:06:10 AM  
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2020-05-23 7:30:54 AM  

qorkfiend: Another Government Employee: King Something: optikeye: Wouldn't his survivors still be eligible for benefits by  using the 'sick days' to his death?

Probably, but the company will probably counter their efforts by keeping their claim in the courts until they give up due to financial attrition. At best, they'll get a small fraction of the survivor benefits they're due, and it'll be just barely enough to cover the legal costs they incurred just to get that settlement.

Nah. The company would spend 5-6X the amount saved in legal costs to hang it up.

But I do wonder if the company employs a "dead peasant" insurance policy on their workers.

They can't take out a life insurance policy directly in the worker without the worker knowing, but they could probably insure themselves against any costs arising from employee accidents (physical damage, cleanup, maybe settlements).


Most DP setups I have seen are group policies, with the company as the sole beneficiary. With the turnover common in this line of work, it would be impossible to keep the enrollments up to date if they were individual policies.
 
2020-05-23 8:12:37 AM  
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2020-05-23 9:02:36 AM  
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2020-05-23 9:04:22 AM  
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2020-05-23 9:06:16 AM  

IlGreven: foo monkey: Soooo, they're hiring?

If you like working minimum wage at a job that is almost certain to give you COVID...knock yourself out.

/There's a reason why the employees are mostly immigrants.
//Also the reason why most are having trouble staying open as COVID spreads...


Although, how many working there had the virus?  I get they're not known for the greatest conditions, but without evidence there he wasn't the only case slants this in the wrong direction.  Lately, I'm getting really tired of people slanting stories without facts.  I don't care which side.
 
2020-05-23 9:13:08 AM  

Anenu: I think you mean man heroically spends entire life working and refuses to be a drain on the government once he reaches advanced age. Remember, never rely on the government spend your entire life working and then die before you qualify for medicare, praise be to the glorious job creators.

/ Would you like to know more?


You do know you can "retire" without retiring, right?  My dad has been doing it for years now.  Collecting full SSI benefits, and hasn't even dropped to part time yet.  The option is there to retire early, and collect only part of the money, and can work part time, or don't retire, file when old enough, and collect full amount regardless of still working.  For my dad, it was the only way my parents could afford to buy a real home; first house my parents bought.  Well, second they bought, but the first one doesn't really count, since it was rotting trailer that was condemned.  Sad it took 65 years for him to learn how to adult right.  Sorry for the tangent, but at the same time, it shows what some people go through when working for crappy companies.
 
2020-05-23 9:23:19 AM  
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2020-05-23 9:26:44 AM  

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Hah!
While I was expecting Lethal Weapon in this thread, this I was not expecting.
Well done. Thank you.
 
2020-05-23 9:48:14 AM  

jso2897: IlGreven: ...dude, this is America. The harder you work, the less you're paid.

Yep. He might get a buck or two more than minimum wage for his unsafe, non-union slave job - but your point stands.
America is for the Ownership Class - we threw the Worker under the bus in 1980.


Psssst, the Constitution was written by slave owners.
 
2020-05-23 10:08:14 AM  

King Something: optikeye: Wouldn't his survivors still be eligible for benefits by  using the 'sick days' to his death?

Probably, but the company will probably counter their efforts by keeping their claim in the courts until they give up due to financial attrition. At best, they'll get a small fraction of the survivor benefits they're due, and it'll be just barely enough to cover the legal costs they incurred just to get that settlement.


Assuming there is a provable relationship between his employment and his death, the family is entitled to Workers Compensation benefits.  In Workers Compensation claims, the burden of proof is on the employer to prove that the injury or death was -not- job related.

Next, any pension benefits, 401K savings, life insurance benefit, etc. have pre-named beneficiaries who automatically receive payment under the terms of the plans.

Finally, from the perspective of the company the amount of money involved is so small that it is rarely worth the trouble and expense to pay lawyers to fight about it.

I used to do this stuff for a living for a company with more than 50,000 employees, and I'm a certified Senior Professional in Benefits Administration.

TL/DR:  If you don't know what you're talking about, don't make shiat up.
 
2020-05-23 10:25:40 AM  
Huh. So you can retire at a meat packing plant? Here I am sticking retirement bologna down my pants like a fool.  Hey. it's a meat packing plant.
 
2020-05-23 10:55:41 AM  
Hell, Henry Blake died lifting off from the helo padto head back to the states. shiat happens...
 
2020-05-23 11:02:26 AM  
Well, this kinda thing happens all the time.  Some guy works at the Mine for 45 years, retires, gets the gold watch, the big party, the farewell BJ in the copy room from the Bosses Sexretary and drops dead a week later.
 
2020-05-23 12:12:07 PM  
When I was fresh out of college at my first office job a 60-something coworker died at his desk.  Just seized up and ended.  I found out by watching the paramedics wheel his covered body down the hallway.  THAT WILL NOT BE ME I have said every day since.
 
7 days ago  

optikeye: Wouldn't his survivors still be eligible for benefits by  using the 'sick days' to his death?


That's a pretty harsh calculus: "Gramps is dead but at least we get to enjoy his retirement benefits."
 
7 days ago  

Bigdogdaddy: I had a "friend" on FB moaning about how this shutdown was costing American jobs.  I posted that if they were really hard up for money, that I heard the meat packing plants really needed people.  It was soundly ignored but at least they quit posting that shiat.


NICE WORK!
 
6 days ago  
Iowa meat packer.
Heh.
 
6 days ago  

SimonElectric: optikeye: Wouldn't his survivors still be eligible for benefits by  using the 'sick days' to his death?

That's a pretty harsh calculus: "Gramps is dead but at least we get to enjoy his retirement benefits."


Typically you gotta keep grandpa in the chest freezer so the SocSec checks keep coming.
 
6 days ago  
The only consolation is that he was probably prepared for this. What with him being a meaty maker and all.
 
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