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2020-05-22 10:29:04 PM  
I am a huge fan of the Civ series

But I am not a fan of Civ VI

The graphics are a step down from V.
 
2020-05-22 10:53:19 PM  
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2020-05-23 12:14:45 AM  
" To download, all you need is the Epic Games Launcher, which you might have from playing Fortnite anyways. Just head on over to the store, where you'll see the current free game featured front-and-center. "

OK, once downloaded how do you play it? My goal wasn't just to download it and the game launcher is no farking help beyond downloading.
 
2020-05-23 12:41:50 AM  
Sorry, the only key logging I will accept is Steam. Epic can EABOD. I did my time with Microsoft servers for Dawn of War, and I refuse to give another piece of crap service with the longevity of "updates at popular game launch and 2 years of bugs until the next big game" my data.
 
2020-05-23 12:50:17 AM  
I might have to try this out from my office. It's been restricted to Amazon inventory for tax reasons
 
2020-05-23 1:15:27 AM  
Epic has been giving away a ton of free games, a lot of them pretty high quality.

I have yet to spend any money on the store ( I do have two 10 dollar off codes now ), but I have a pretty decent library there now... Carcassone, Ticket to Ride, For the King, Fairia, Darksiders 1 & 2, GTA 5, and Civ 6, as well as a few others.. I also use Epic to launch MtG: Arena, just because its there...

Steam is still my go to place, and there is no comparison between the two, but good free games are good free games.
 
2020-05-23 1:16:43 AM  

cman: The graphics are a step down from V.


If you're just talking about the leaders, its a different (more cartoonish) art style that isn't everyone's cuppa.

If you're talking about terrain, units and city detail, I have no idea what you're talking about. VI is an improvement.

If you're talking about gameplay changes (between V and VI), again, there are changes I wouldn't call definitively better or worse; its subjective to whether the changes are those you personally like.
There's a lot more to (micro) manage in VI than 5, and the districts mechanic is a huge and potentially jarring leap from previous Civs.
 
2020-05-23 1:52:18 AM  
Done just in time for the release of their new $40 New Frontier Pass, so they'll get a bunch of new addicts...I mean "players" hooked and ready to buy the expansion.

/Why yes, I have just bought that myself now that you mention it.
 
2020-05-23 2:04:30 AM  
all you need is the Epic Games Launcher

Lana-Nouuuuuuuuuuuuuuupe
 
2020-05-23 2:20:10 AM  
Civ IV was the zenith.
 
2020-05-23 2:26:58 AM  
I wanted to like Civ 6. I like the districs, I even like the graphics. But the AI was so incredibly poor.
Did they fix that already?
 
2020-05-23 2:29:34 AM  

EvilJRoss: Epic has been giving away a ton of free games, a lot of them pretty high quality.

I have yet to spend any money on the store ( I do have two 10 dollar off codes now ), but I have a pretty decent library there now... Carcassone, Ticket to Ride, For the King, Fairia, Darksiders 1 & 2, GTA 5, and Civ 6, as well as a few others.. I also use Epic to launch MtG: Arena, just because its there...

Steam is still my go to place, and there is no comparison between the two, but good free games are good free games.


This. So sick of the 8kun paranoids yammering on and on about Epic being Chinese and they're monitoring your data. Fine. Monitor me. I'm freaking boring! And I am poor. Steal my ID! I dare you! Enjoy the checkered past. Steal my identity and the thief is instantly on at least three federal watch lists I can name ( Hi there DEA! ). My favorite four-letter F-word is FREE.

I have spent some money there and can't even regret that. I got Mechwarrior 5 for what was basically half off with coupons and discounts. Same with Old World and a few others. The only one I even feel burned on and got that at 20% off was The Outer Worlds. OK that was kind of a burn -- short, screaming for more content but still a fun game.

Steam has ALWAYS tracked you folks and Valve is not exactly the Moral Standard of Gaming Etiquette and Decorum. See DOTA. Worse steam takes over 30% from the developers; Evil Chinese Epic takes 15%. So evil! That's practically Communism!

Frankly I could care less as I have Steam, Epic, UPlay and GOG Galaxy all going. Every once in awhile I'll head over to Blizzard and see what a mess that is. Or even Origins. Or even itch.io. Keeping yourselves away from things because of "derp" from some gaming forum is just false machismo. May as well drive a big pick-up with truck nuts and MAGA stickers.

/ End rant.
 
2020-05-23 2:40:55 AM  
So I got this and played through the tutorial today, and so far I'm really not sold on it. It seems to be a fair bit more complicated than Civ V was (the only other one in the series I've played), more complicated than I really liked, with all the options for policies, religions and such. It just felt a little bogged down with too many details.

The tutorial also sucked ass.

There were no horses or iron available at all in the world, so I had to just not build units that needed those and wait until I could make musketmen and cannons. And until I reached that point, barbarians were able to roflstomp my units, since they had units that required iron.

The tutorial also seems to have disabled the ability to use auto explore or to delete unwanted units, which was a pain. I ended up feeding crap units I couldn't upgrade (due to the absence of iron and horses) to the barbarians.

Also disabled for the tutorial? Saving. It took me close to three hours to finish the tutorial, I really would have liked to have stopped part way through and come back later, but that wasn't an option.

Anyway, when I finally got my army together I was able to wreck the enemy, but the tutorial didn't actually recognize that I had taken their capital, and just kept going. I took a few more cities and then gave up and quit.

And for some reason after I had captured all those cities my total income was something like negative 20 gold. Do captured cities cost gold? I don't know what was going on, the tutorial didn't even bother to cover that.

I really hope the rest of the game is less of a mess than that tutorial was.
 
2020-05-23 3:43:10 AM  
Thus far I've held off on buying Civ6 since I couldn't justify the purchase price to myself when I have Civ 2, 3, 4, and 5 all available to me. I suppose I'll be getting it now.
 
2020-05-23 4:02:47 AM  
I miss Civilization 2: Test of Time. The fantasy and sci-fi scenarios were a lot of fun. Really different options for playing and they both allowed you to expand and colonize multiple worlds. It was missing a lot of really great features they'd develop in later games, obviously, but the features it had that were dropped are the ones I miss the most of all the games.
 
2020-05-23 5:19:38 AM  

CrazyCurt: Or even itch.io.


Itch.io is great. It's where all of the ideas too bizarre for the others go to live. Many games are free there. Others are quite affordable. Also, for the lockdown quite a lot of the developers there have been offering their paid games for free.
 
2020-05-23 6:38:50 AM  
There were two options, New to Cub XI and new to Civ. I chose the latter, which is the second one for you idiots using former and latter incorrectly. New to Civ.

The only way to see near settlements is to have settlers. That lost me 2 hours. The only way to find natural wonders once you have Charles Darwin is, ihnfi. Make a scout, then a settler, then it depends.

My first game I was limited to 50 squares max, required ship building. Yeah they advanced faster. Plus I didn't disable the barbarians. Terrible addition.

Second game, learning from the first, I produced things. That were useless in this unrelated game that you have to learn how to play.

Learning and unrelated should not be in the same room.

10 hours wasted total. Might as well just find some B2 lewds and make it a night. fark you, Sid Meier.
 
2020-05-23 7:11:58 AM  
Civ V blows Civ VI away. Let's not be ridiculous.
 
2020-05-23 7:26:37 AM  
I still don't want another launcher installed however GOG Galaxy 2 mentioned you could consolidate libraries. Anyone know if I could just install that and have neither Steam nor Epic installed on my machine?

That would be enough for me to finally sign up to the Epic store.
 
2020-05-23 7:30:20 AM  
Nevermind I found the answer on their website. You have to have all of them installed AND Galaxy on top. And since running a game requires the platform to be running, you'll undoubtedly need them all running as well, or wait for them to boot up when you want to launch a game.

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Thus I want neither Epic, nor GOG on my machine. Just too much always on bullshiat, update prompts and general just bothering me.
 
2020-05-23 8:06:12 AM  

karl2025: I miss Civilization 2: Test of Time. The fantasy and sci-fi scenarios were a lot of fun. Really different options for playing and they both allowed you to expand and colonize multiple worlds. It was missing a lot of really great features they'd develop in later games, obviously, but the features it had that were dropped are the ones I miss the most of all the games.


Orbital bombardment.
 
2020-05-23 8:15:34 AM  

dyhchong: Nevermind I found the answer on their website. You have to have all of them installed AND Galaxy on top. And since running a game requires the platform to be running, you'll undoubtedly need them all running as well, or wait for them to boot up when you want to launch a game.

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Thus I want neither Epic, nor GOG on my machine. Just too much always on bullshiat, update prompts and general just bothering me.


Never understood why they are touting that as one of the main selling points of Galaxy 2.  If you need all the separate launchers installed and running anyway, chances are you already have a consolidated point where you can launch games - called the"start menu".

At least Steam and Galaxy have individual games listed there, haven't tried much else.

Don't get me wrong, GoG has already separated me from a fair bit of cash.  They've got a good amount of, well, good old games that aren't on Steam.  Plus I grabbed Vampyr through them as they were the first to have a good sale on it.  But useless marketing is useless.
 
2020-05-23 9:08:22 AM  
The only thing better than Civ VI is Civ V... or even Civ IV.
 
2020-05-23 9:30:40 AM  

recondite cetacean: There were two options, New to Cub XI and new to Civ. I chose the latter, which is the second one for you idiots using former and latter incorrectly. New to Civ.

The only way to see near settlements is to have settlers. That lost me 2 hours. The only way to find natural wonders once you have Charles Darwin is, ihnfi. Make a scout, then a settler, then it depends.

My first game I was limited to 50 squares max, required ship building. Yeah they advanced faster. Plus I didn't disable the barbarians. Terrible addition.

Second game, learning from the first, I produced things. That were useless in this unrelated game that you have to learn how to play.

Learning and unrelated should not be in the same room.

10 hours wasted total. Might as well just find some B2 lewds and make it a night. fark you, Sid Meier.


Who are you conversing with that you've met one or more people that don't understand the difference between former and latter?

You need to find smarter friends.
 
2020-05-23 9:38:13 AM  
Played my first Civ VI game in Apocalypse mode last night.  Fun time with the end times.
 
2020-05-23 9:41:12 AM  
I hear Civ VI suffers from a noticeable deficiency of Panzer General.
 
2020-05-23 9:54:34 AM  
I dl'd GTA 5 last week and it downloaded so slowly that it led me to check some new cabling I had done.  Sure enough, I did a shiatty crimp on an RJ45 and one of the orange wires wasn't solidly connected, if at all.

I'll start the dl on Civ in a few but I'm currently having fun with Space Agency 2138, a Kerbel-esque space game on my phone.
 
2020-05-23 10:03:15 AM  

MurphyMurphy: recondite cetacean: There were two options, New to Cub XI and new to Civ. I chose the latter, which is the second one for you idiots using former and latter incorrectly. New to Civ.

The only way to see near settlements is to have settlers. That lost me 2 hours. The only way to find natural wonders once you have Charles Darwin is, ihnfi. Make a scout, then a settler, then it depends.

My first game I was limited to 50 squares max, required ship building. Yeah they advanced faster. Plus I didn't disable the barbarians. Terrible addition.

Second game, learning from the first, I produced things. That were useless in this unrelated game that you have to learn how to play.

Learning and unrelated should not be in the same room.

10 hours wasted total. Might as well just find some B2 lewds and make it a night. fark you, Sid Meier.

Who are you conversing with that you've met one or more people that don't understand the difference between former and latter?

You need to find smarter friends.


Right? Or climb a latter and get over it.
 
2020-05-23 10:11:23 AM  
It did take me some time to warm up to Civ 6, but the district system is superior - its forces you to think tactically about your cities and really helps define them.

The expansion with the Governors and climate change/natural disasters/dams & canals also completed the game AFIC.
 
2020-05-23 10:26:19 AM  
The only Civ game I've played is Alpha Centauri.

That was about the perfect level of micromanagement.

/ALL the special projects, please
 
2020-05-23 11:10:03 AM  
I snagged my free copy.  The biggest issue I have is with the AI.  They still do stupid crap.

Catherine denounced me for not having enough spies before I even had pottery.  Then years later, she and Montezuma declared war same turn only to get a severe thrashing.  This lead to them both denouncing me as a warmonger.  Catherine attacked me again several years later and the rest of the world began denouncing me for being a warmonger.
 
2020-05-23 11:24:49 AM  

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2020-05-23 11:29:42 AM  

0100010: I snagged my free copy.  The biggest issue I have is with the AI.  They still do stupid crap.

Catherine denounced me for not having enough spies before I even had pottery.  Then years later, she and Montezuma declared war same turn only to get a severe thrashing.  This lead to them both denouncing me as a warmonger.  Catherine attacked me again several years later and the rest of the world began denouncing me for being a warmonger.


Those sound like base game issues. The two expansions smooth out diplomacy considerably.
As for AI decisions.. that's still being worked on. This free Epic release coincides with the new season pass they released that's going to cover the next year, over the course of which they'll be taking feedback and making adjustments.
 
2020-05-23 11:31:53 AM  

0100010: I snagged my free copy.  The biggest issue I have is with the AI.  They still do stupid crap.

Catherine denounced me for not having enough spies before I even had pottery.  Then years later, she and Montezuma declared war same turn only to get a severe thrashing.  This lead to them both denouncing me as a warmonger.  Catherine attacked me again several years later and the rest of the world began denouncing me for being a warmonger.


.... this seems like a fairly accurate depiction of how politics works, really.
 
2020-05-23 11:33:50 AM  

The Bestest: cman: The graphics are a step down from V.

If you're just talking about the leaders, its a different (more cartoonish) art style that isn't everyone's cuppa.

If you're talking about terrain, units and city detail, I have no idea what you're talking about. VI is an improvement.

If you're talking about gameplay changes (between V and VI), again, there are changes I wouldn't call definitively better or worse; its subjective to whether the changes are those you personally like.
There's a lot more to (micro) manage in VI than 5, and the districts mechanic is a huge and potentially jarring leap from previous Civs.


I snagged because, hello it is free. Free is free. So hell yhea I will take it. Want to see for myself what the changes are like. But it would be hard to top V as that game has just has too much awesome. (Wish though I could use military units against those pesky missionaries)

But V was the only one I've ever played. I honestly didn't think I would enjoy a strategy game so much.
 
2020-05-23 11:43:39 AM  

mindset zero: (Wish though I could use military units against those pesky missionaries)


In VI, you can consume an Apostle to "Launch Inquisition". This does two things: allows for the training of Inquisitors (which can greatly snuff out foreign religious influence in cities you control and initiate theological combat against other religious units) and gives your military units the action "Condemn Heretic", which allows them to kill religious units.
 
2020-05-23 12:01:55 PM  

The Bestest: mindset zero: (Wish though I could use military units against those pesky missionaries)

In VI, you can consume an Apostle to "Launch Inquisition". This does two things: allows for the training of Inquisitors (which can greatly snuff out foreign religious influence in cities you control and initiate theological combat against other religious units) and gives your military units the action "Condemn Heretic", which allows them to kill religious units.


Good to know. I've hardly ever looked at guides because I kind of just want to figure out the game on my own. But I might because I am tired of losing. I get ever so close to a science win but just can't seem to get past the hump once I hit the industrial era. I usually run out of turns as I am building my third space ship part. But I also don't play it a lot just occasionally.
 
2020-05-23 12:07:25 PM  
Plus I am trying for a science win with just in city. I know it's possible but I think I'm just making it harder on myself I'm not sure.
 
2020-05-23 12:09:35 PM  

mindset zero: Plus I am trying for a science win with just in city. I know it's possible but I think I'm just making it harder on myself I'm not sure.


Yeah, if you want a Science victory, it has to be distributed. Sort of intentional to reflect the "it takes a nation" philosophy behind it.
 
2020-05-23 12:14:41 PM  

mindset zero: The Bestest: mindset zero: (Wish though I could use military units against those pesky missionaries)

In VI, you can consume an Apostle to "Launch Inquisition". This does two things: allows for the training of Inquisitors (which can greatly snuff out foreign religious influence in cities you control and initiate theological combat against other religious units) and gives your military units the action "Condemn Heretic", which allows them to kill religious units.

Good to know. I've hardly ever looked at guides because I kind of just want to figure out the game on my own. But I might because I am tired of losing. I get ever so close to a science win but just can't seem to get past the hump once I hit the industrial era. I usually run out of turns as I am building my third space ship part. But I also don't play it a lot just occasionally.


Make sure you're getting as mich adjacency bonus for your campus district. Even +2 is better than +0...

if you can swing a +4 bonus fro. a mountain or two, reefs etc. in mid game you'll get a civic that doubles that bonus to +8, and a further civic that gives +100% if the city has 10 pop or more.

So one campus could give you +16 Science. Now do that as best you can for all if them, and you'll have your rockets going to the moon by the 1700s.
 
2020-05-23 12:19:51 PM  

mindset zero: Plus I am trying for a science win with just in city. I know it's possible but I think I'm just making it harder on myself I'm not sure.


That was a popular style of play in Civ V. I bet they nerfed it in 6.
 
2020-05-23 12:21:31 PM  

Clash City Farker: mindset zero: Plus I am trying for a science win with just in city. I know it's possible but I think I'm just making it harder on myself I'm not sure.

That was a popular style of play in Civ V. I bet they nerfed it in 6.


The districts mechanic severely hampers the single-city playstyle, yes.
 
2020-05-23 12:31:27 PM  

The Bestest: mindset zero: Plus I am trying for a science win with just in city. I know it's possible but I think I'm just making it harder on myself I'm not sure.

Yeah, if you want a Science victory, it has to be distributed. Sort of intentional to reflect the "it takes a nation" philosophy behind it.


So in V when would be a good time to build a second settlement. Going by the tech tree. Also what were your thoughts beyond almost having an isolated economy. As I hardly ever have a standing army. I'm able to stay out of War, but I also keep closed borders and try and stay hidden from other civs.
 
2020-05-23 1:10:22 PM  

freakdiablo: dyhchong: Nevermind I found the answer on their website. You have to have all of them installed AND Galaxy on top. And since running a game requires the platform to be running, you'll undoubtedly need them all running as well, or wait for them to boot up when you want to launch a game.

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Thus I want neither Epic, nor GOG on my machine. Just too much always on bullshiat, update prompts and general just bothering me.

Never understood why they are touting that as one of the main selling points of Galaxy 2.  If you need all the separate launchers installed and running anyway, chances are you already have a consolidated point where you can launch games - called the"start menu".

At least Steam and Galaxy have individual games listed there, haven't tried much else.

Don't get me wrong, GoG has already separated me from a fair bit of cash.  They've got a good amount of, well, good old games that aren't on Steam.  Plus I grabbed Vampyr through them as they were the first to have a good sale on it.  But useless marketing is useless.


I like the idea of the GoG launcher consolidating all of the platforms into one page. It's quite handy.

But in practice it's not great. I set up all the other launchers to come online only when the game is launched, and to quit when closed. Synchronized them all so they know the games I own. And it works OK. It does take a minute to open the relevant launcher and then start the game, but not enough to pitch a fit over. I found that some games are pickier though. Satisfactory on Epic gave me a bug where even though it thought I was logged in and verified, it treated me as an unrecognized player in my own single-player map. Never happened when launched directly from Epic.

And of course as pointed out, if I have to wait for the launcher anyway, I might as well just launch straight from the convenient shortcut on my desktop.
 
2020-05-23 1:18:47 PM  

Lochsteppe: Right? Or climb a latter and get over it.


You know it's okay for us to punch Nazis now, right?
 
2020-05-23 1:25:23 PM  

SirSigsegV: So I got this and played through the tutorial today, and so far I'm really not sold on it. It seems to be a fair bit more complicated than Civ V was (the only other one in the series I've played), more complicated than I really liked, with all the options for policies, religions and such. It just felt a little bogged down with too many details.

The tutorial also sucked ass.

There were no horses or iron available at all in the world, so I had to just not build units that needed those and wait until I could make musketmen and cannons. And until I reached that point, barbarians were able to roflstomp my units, since they had units that required iron.

The tutorial also seems to have disabled the ability to use auto explore or to delete unwanted units, which was a pain. I ended up feeding crap units I couldn't upgrade (due to the absence of iron and horses) to the barbarians.

Also disabled for the tutorial? Saving. It took me close to three hours to finish the tutorial, I really would have liked to have stopped part way through and come back later, but that wasn't an option.

Anyway, when I finally got my army together I was able to wreck the enemy, but the tutorial didn't actually recognize that I had taken their capital, and just kept going. I took a few more cities and then gave up and quit.

And for some reason after I had captured all those cities my total income was something like negative 20 gold. Do captured cities cost gold? I don't know what was going on, the tutorial didn't even bother to cover that.

I really hope the rest of the game is less of a mess than that tutorial was.


I agree with what you said about the tutorial.  I played it because I wanted to see the new or different features.  It does seem like it is overly micro managed.  I couldnt build half my units because of resources.  The combat mechanic seemed odd.  Also like you said no save feature on the tutorial so I put a couple of hours into it and would have liked to have come back to it after I had to quit last night.  I did learn some things like districts so it was good for that.  Im going to play an actual game today and see how it goes.  Eff it, i got a AAA game (Steam still sells the base game for $60) for free.  Thanks Fortnight kiddies for subsidizing my game library.
 
2020-05-23 1:43:43 PM  
Civ V was one of the most beautiful games of the 2010s with art and music. But yeah, the AI combat was usually a joke. (Once in a while, on certain maps ... it would get good).

As for Civ VI, I have to say the latest expansion did up the AI. Or at least, the Maya are challengers for Korea on science gathering IF they get the right location (they need close-knit cities, farms and plantations for bonuses). Played two games against them. First was several other AIs on 5 or 6 setting and I'm trying Simon Bolivar, getting ready to pounce on the Mayans few, barely defended cities when Teddy Roosevelt decides to stab me in the back. Long war against a city-spamming America. It's the 1500s when I'm done with TR and the Maya have added a few towns, stole one city state from me and now have spammed late 20th century artillery systems and field cannons and are collecting 300 science per turn.

Second game? I was curious to see just how much the AI improved. Tossed out everybody but Maya, USA and a recently updated custom mod (Robespierre's France), that got put 10 hexes away on 2 setting (second easiest), sharing a peninsula with me no less. Well, there goes France in a quick effortless warrior zerg rush ... but then I notice we are not even at the end of the BC era and the Maya have city spammed and are almost at 200 science. TR is attacking them but unable to hold their cities, and the Mayans this time have invested in light cavalry. Both TR and I are generating only a third of that science amount with multiple universities, as well.

I try the Maya and the Civ VI map generator (which is my biggest gripe -- ask for an island map, it gives you everyone on the same continent) puts me in the middle of a Sahara.

One other gripe: the best mod for Civ VI, Concise UI, is broken after the latest expansion. I'm usually not one for UI mods but that one fixed a lot of the issues I had.
 
2020-05-23 1:52:12 PM  

The Bestest: Clash City Farker: mindset zero: Plus I am trying for a science win with just in city. I know it's possible but I think I'm just making it harder on myself I'm not sure.

That was a popular style of play in Civ V. I bet they nerfed it in 6.

The districts mechanic severely hampers the single-city playstyle, yes.


There is a mod that improves production with population, but it's not enough to make Civ V Venice-style play a reality. The AI just spams cities and the resources needed to field a military or just keep citizens happy with luxury map items push you to do the same.

If Civ V didn't crash on quit, I'd play it more. Seems like Firaxis intentionally monkey wrenched it with their loader so we'd move on to Civ VI.
 
2020-05-23 3:03:36 PM  

BafflerMeal: Civ IV was the zenith.


So, was Civ V the RCA and is Civ VI the Philco?

/ Which one is the Phillips?
 
2020-05-23 3:37:27 PM  

Practical_Draconian: The Bestest: Clash City Farker: mindset zero: Plus I am trying for a science win with just in city. I know it's possible but I think I'm just making it harder on myself I'm not sure.

That was a popular style of play in Civ V. I bet they nerfed it in 6.

The districts mechanic severely hampers the single-city playstyle, yes.

There is a mod that improves production with population, but it's not enough to make Civ V Venice-style play a reality. The AI just spams cities and the resources needed to field a military or just keep citizens happy with luxury map items push you to do the same.

If Civ V didn't crash on quit, I'd play it more. Seems like Firaxis intentionally monkey wrenched it with their loader so we'd move on to Civ VI.


Protip for steam:

ineedlegacyaccess beta code removes the new launcher
 
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