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2020-05-23 1:08:13 AM  

theflatline: Did I mention that the 2 months before I composted the land with fruit rinds and other natural trash?


No.  You did not mention this.  Why why why did you fail to mention this?!?!
 
2020-05-23 1:09:52 AM  

theflatline: tablespoon of epsom salt and some egg shells at the roots.


Sandy soil or muck?
I'm fascinated by the combination and want to know details.

We have vegetable acreage in south central FL and I'm always looking for organic ideas. Thanks in advance.
 
2020-05-23 1:31:58 AM  

arkansized: theflatline: tablespoon of epsom salt and some egg shells at the roots.

Sandy soil or muck?
I'm fascinated by the combination and want to know details.

We have vegetable acreage in south central FL and I'm always looking for organic ideas. Thanks in advance.


Low Ph, not mucky or sandy, lots of moisture due to vegetation detritus.  A lot f Colombia is in the Andes and "seasonal" changes due to it being on the equator or minimal.  Kinda loamy.

I live in Florida so I am familiar with the sandy soil and the problem with have here is that it is too god damn hot most of the year to grow anything. And with global warming it has gotten hotter.

I normally used to drop tomatos in Feb but now could have done it in December cause by mid feb it is too hot. Fruit wont set on the blooms unless it is under 80 at night unless you are only interested in cherry tomatos.

Tomatos and Cukes tend to stop producing mid summer and you really should have a second batch ready to go in the ground end of July.

My secret sauce is every other week I add epsom salt to the water, tablespoon per gallon. Plants love it

If you are not going to compost then I would recommend fertilizing every 14 days.  There are plenty of organic fertilizers available and in a pinch you can get Organic Miracle Grow.

Hot peppers love the heat.

What are wanting to grow?
 
2020-05-23 1:34:26 AM  

JerkStore: Why does Venezuela need Iranian oil?


In this case they're importing gasoline because their refineries are mostly broken, but sometimes they import light oil or refined products to use to dilute their heavy oil so it can be transported through pipelines instead of behaving like the goopy tar that it is.
 
2020-05-23 1:34:36 AM  

lolmao500: Russia and China dont have the ressources to show up to Venezuela en force. They're a joke.


China has the manpower, they just don't have sufficient deep water navy resources to exert power more than a few miles from their shoreline.  Russia might have the naval resources, but they are so screwed on the financial front that they can't pay for an operation that far away from home.

If China and Russia were to team up, however shiat could get real.
 
2020-05-23 1:38:33 AM  

baron von doodle: Except that Socialist Dictatorship is an oxymoron. It's a dictatorship that uses the veneer of socialism.


That's always what you end up with.
 
2020-05-23 1:46:29 AM  
Might as well throw a few of these at us.

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2020-05-23 1:47:45 AM  

i ignore u: In this case they're importing gasoline because their refineries are mostly broken,


When Chavez nationalized the oil industry, the people who knew how to run and repair things all left.  On top of that, he did not allow for maintenance costs in the oil industry budget.  So they had no one to fix stuff, couldn't hire anyone to fix stuff, and had no resources to train anyone to fix stuff.    So equipment was used until it broke.  And that made things even worse because breakage from being worn out typically results in a total loss.  So you have to replace the equipment.  But no one would sell him anything because he had a nasty habit of not paying for stuff, especially when it was the same people he kicked out when he nationalized.  Even if he could buy equipment, he had no one who knew how to install and calibrate it.  Refinery equipment isn't as simple as screwing in a light bulb.  Chavez's heir is no better.  Still robbing the country blind and blaming the USA.
 
2020-05-23 1:49:55 AM  

baron von doodle: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: iheartscotch: lolmao500: Meanwhile trump continues with his stupid ass sanctions that do nothing and only hurt the venezuelian people.

What about we KILL MADURO instead?

Just do a surprise SLBM strike on the presidential palace during the night or something. Level it.

International law says we cant kill dictators but come on, its not like Murica ever gave a fark about international law.

When a country rich as Venezuela is going through a famine, its time for the world to act and if some assholes like Russia or China says no, you tell them to fark off and you do it anyway.

Yeah? Because, that would solve one problem and potentially create more. What if China or Russia decide that THEY want a piece of Venezuela?

Also, how are you gonna track that fark down? He's probably in the deepest hole he can find

More importantly, it legitimizes using assassination of state leaders to further national goals.  The only thing protecting world leaders from each others' snipers is fear of quid pro quo.

We kinda tore up that idea when the Iranian general got atomized on Iraqi soil. US leaders became fair game for other nations at that point.


A military officer engaged in leading hostile operations against the US on foreign soil isn't a state leader, he's a legitimate military target.
 
2020-05-23 2:19:37 AM  

theflatline: arkansized: theflatline: tablespoon of epsom salt and some egg shells at the roots.

Sandy soil or muck?
I'm fascinated by the combination and want to know details.

We have vegetable acreage in south central FL and I'm always looking for organic ideas. Thanks in advance.

Low Ph, not mucky or sandy, lots of moisture due to vegetation detritus.  A lot f Colombia is in the Andes and "seasonal" changes due to it being on the equator or minimal.  Kinda loamy.

I live in Florida so I am familiar with the sandy soil and the problem with have here is that it is too god damn hot most of the year to grow anything. And with global warming it has gotten hotter.

I normally used to drop tomatos in Feb but now could have done it in December cause by mid feb it is too hot. Fruit wont set on the blooms unless it is under 80 at night unless you are only interested in cherry tomatos.

Tomatos and Cukes tend to stop producing mid summer and you really should have a second batch ready to go in the ground end of July.

My secret sauce is every other week I add epsom salt to the water, tablespoon per gallon. Plants love it

If you are not going to compost then I would recommend fertilizing every 14 days.  There are plenty of organic fertilizers available and in a pinch you can get Organic Miracle Grow.

Hot peppers love the heat.

What are wanting to grow?


You are right on the money about warming. Lettuce and romaine started to bolt in February, and the April tomatoes weren't worth a flip.

I'm in Highlands county, plenty of sand and I amend it with good ol' composted horse manure. And whatever veg peelings are left at week's end.

We used to do big acreage in Leaf lettuce and Bibb lettuce, but hurricane put us put of business. Now I just do a scant acre or so of winter veggies. Fark working in summer heat.

I have asparagus, snow peas, cabbage, leaf lettuce, Blue Lake green beans, broccoli, bok choy, sweet peppers, jalapenos, and other odds and ends. Just trying to feed family and pass stuff around to the neighbors. Was thinking the egg shells and epsom salt probably would supplement the nitrogen-rich manure with the magnesium and calcium. Amirite?
 
2020-05-23 2:21:31 AM  
Funny how some threads turn into food threads.
 
2020-05-23 2:26:11 AM  

arkansized: theflatline: arkansized: theflatline: tablespoon of epsom salt and some egg shells at the roots.

Sandy soil or muck?
I'm fascinated by the combination and want to know details.

We have vegetable acreage in south central FL and I'm always looking for organic ideas. Thanks in advance.

Low Ph, not mucky or sandy, lots of moisture due to vegetation detritus.  A lot f Colombia is in the Andes and "seasonal" changes due to it being on the equator or minimal.  Kinda loamy.

I live in Florida so I am familiar with the sandy soil and the problem with have here is that it is too god damn hot most of the year to grow anything. And with global warming it has gotten hotter.

I normally used to drop tomatos in Feb but now could have done it in December cause by mid feb it is too hot. Fruit wont set on the blooms unless it is under 80 at night unless you are only interested in cherry tomatos.

Tomatos and Cukes tend to stop producing mid summer and you really should have a second batch ready to go in the ground end of July.

My secret sauce is every other week I add epsom salt to the water, tablespoon per gallon. Plants love it

If you are not going to compost then I would recommend fertilizing every 14 days.  There are plenty of organic fertilizers available and in a pinch you can get Organic Miracle Grow.

Hot peppers love the heat.

What are wanting to grow?

You are right on the money about warming. Lettuce and romaine started to bolt in February, and the April tomatoes weren't worth a flip.

I'm in Highlands county, plenty of sand and I amend it with good ol' composted horse manure. And whatever veg peelings are left at week's end.

We used to do big acreage in Leaf lettuce and Bibb lettuce, but hurricane put us put of business. Now I just do a scant acre or so of winter veggies. Fark working in summer heat.

I have asparagus, snow peas, cabbage, leaf lettuce, Blue Lake green beans, broccoli, bok choy, sweet peppers, jalapenos, and other odds and ends. Just trying to feed ...


Yep.

It has gotten so hot that I literally have a cherry russian tomato plant that is three years old. It wont die.

The only thijng you can reliably grow is peppers, greens, and okra.
 
2020-05-23 2:38:07 AM  
Dnrta. 7th seal opened? Not yet
 
2020-05-23 2:39:56 AM  

theflatline: The only thijng you can reliably grow is peppers, greens, and okra.


Fark working outside in the summer. But I guess if we had to eat, we'd do it.
Also, mangoes and bananas grow on the property all summer with a lot less effort than garden veggies.

Thanks for the commo, I'm headed to bed.
 
2020-05-23 2:45:46 AM  

OgreMagi: i ignore u: In this case they're importing gasoline because their refineries are mostly broken,

When Chavez nationalized the oil industry, the people who knew how to run and repair things all left.  On top of that, he did not allow for maintenance costs in the oil industry budget.  So they had no one to fix stuff, couldn't hire anyone to fix stuff, and had no resources to train anyone to fix stuff.    So equipment was used until it broke.  And that made things even worse because breakage from being worn out typically results in a total loss.  So you have to replace the equipment.  But no one would sell him anything because he had a nasty habit of not paying for stuff, especially when it was the same people he kicked out when he nationalized.  Even if he could buy equipment, he had no one who knew how to install and calibrate it.  Refinery equipment isn't as simple as screwing in a light bulb.  Chavez's heir is no better.  Still robbing the country blind and blaming the USA.


Bloomberg news says as of late last year their refineries were running at 15% of capacity.  The way I heard it the blatant corruption was more of a problem than the nationalization of their domestic oil industry.  Foreign partnerships continued and foreign expertise was still available, but Chavez held on to power by basically bribing the military leadership with cushy and grafty jobs running the nationalized industries.  Predictably enough huge sums of money vanished, and what remained of the profits were diverted to social programs, so investment in new infrastructure and even in maintenance ground to a halt.
 
2020-05-23 2:46:35 AM  
Surrender your boo-tah:

The peoples suffering is brought on by a socialist dictatorship.

Which is basically saying the same thing twice.


Well there's a shock, a brand new account I've never seen before posting something inflammatory and ignorant, almost like it was the sole reason said account exists.
 
2020-05-23 2:51:56 AM  

Murkanen: Surrender your boo-tah:

The peoples suffering is brought on by a socialist dictatorship.

Which is basically saying the same thing twice.

Well there's a shock, a brand new account I've never seen before posting something inflammatory and ignorant, almost like it was the sole reason said account exists.


Except he is correct.  Socialist states always end up as dictatorships.  It's not flaw.  It's a feature.
 
2020-05-23 4:26:10 AM  

OgreMagi: lolmao500: Russia and China dont have the ressources to show up to Venezuela en force. They're a joke.

China has the manpower, they just don't have sufficient deep water navy resources to exert power more than a few miles from their shoreline.  Russia might have the naval resources, but they are so screwed on the financial front that they can't pay for an operation that far away from home.

If China and Russia were to team up, however shiat could get real.


Their carrier was in a dry dock that sunk.
 
2020-05-23 4:54:48 AM  

wildcardjack: I'd hope we let them have this one. Then start bombing them with Humanitarian Daily Rations. That would destabilize everything.

They could produce enough agricultural goods to support themselves, but things went kinda Lysenko about 20-30 years ago. It was easier to import from other countries than to support native productivity. But things have been shiat long enough you'd think they would have rebuilt native industries by now.


I'm going to guess they nationalized all the corporate farms and kicked out the "white devils" that knew how to actually maintain large farming areas for more then one season?
 
2020-05-23 5:00:18 AM  
OgreMagi:

Except he is correct.  Socialist states always end up as dictatorships.

That's only true if you ignore all the socialist countries that aren't dictatorships, including a good two dozen that currently out score the US in every worthwhile metric (and yes,  personal freedom is one of them), or you conflate the authoritarian communism of Stalin or Mao with socialism.
 
2020-05-23 5:00:29 AM  
Who would be the bes guy to handle this?

1) Kennedy

2) Trump
 
2020-05-23 5:05:45 AM  

arkansized: Funny how some threads turn into food threads.


Food threads are more interesting than listening to the usual Main Page gutter dwellers declare that every socialist country is Venezuela.
 
2020-05-23 5:23:38 AM  

crumblecat: Who would be the bes guy to handle this?

1) Kennedy

2) Trump


Kennedy, in his current state, would be better than Trump.
 
2020-05-23 5:24:53 AM  

Murkanen: arkansized: Funny how some threads turn into food threads.

Food threads are more interesting than listening to the usual Main Page gutter dwellers declare that every socialist country is Venezuela.


I've noticed a preponderance of old troll accounts and recently created troll accounts posting lately. Bums on seats, laddie, bums on seats, I guess.
 
2020-05-23 5:36:51 AM  

iheartscotch: lolmao500: Meanwhile trump continues with his stupid ass sanctions that do nothing and only hurt the venezuelian people.

What about we KILL MADURO instead?

Just do a surprise SLBM strike on the presidential palace during the night or something. Level it.

International law says we cant kill dictators but come on, its not like Murica ever gave a fark about international law.

When a country rich as Venezuela is going through a famine, its time for the world to act and if some assholes like Russia or China says no, you tell them to fark off and you do it anyway.

Yeah? Because, that would solve one problem and potentially create more. What if China or Russia decide that THEY want a piece of Venezuela?

Also, how are you gonna track that fark down? He's probably in the deepest hole he can find


Russia owns Venezuela.  Also Syria, Mozambique, parts of the Ukraine, and are engaging in a massive global disinformation campaign especially in the US and Europe.
/Putin our front should've told ya.
 
2020-05-23 6:28:13 AM  
FTA: "We've got it [Venezula] surrounded, it's surrounded at a level that nobody even knows, but they know," U.S. President Donald Trump said on May 20. "We are watching to see what happens."

No one knows... but they know.
 
2020-05-23 6:39:43 AM  

talkertopc: FTA: "We've got it [Venezula] surrounded, it's surrounded at a level that nobody even knows, but they know," U.S. President Donald Trump said on May 20. "We are watching to see what happens."

No one knows... but they know.


Ya it's surrounded all right. Land on one side, water on the other.
 
2020-05-23 6:52:34 AM  
Well, it's no Cuban missile crisis but I guess it'll have to do. Go get 'em Donnie!

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We've got it surrounded, it's surrounded at a level that nobody even knows, but they know. Maybe something happens, maybe not. Could be something big! We'll see!
 
2020-05-23 6:55:46 AM  

BolloxReader: wildcardjack: I'd hope we let them have this one. Then start bombing them with Humanitarian Daily Rations. That would destabilize everything.

They could produce enough agricultural goods to support themselves, but things went kinda Lysenko about 20-30 years ago. It was easier to import from other countries than to support native productivity. But things have been shiat long enough you'd think they would have rebuilt native industries by now.

The folks who knew how to start up stuff left the country. Maduro is not as nice or as smart as Chavez was and he caused a refugee crisis for surrounding countries. The people with money and/or brains abandoned the country.

Here's the thing: civilization requires not just experts but more and more specialist types to keep going. Lose enough specialists and suddenly you have lots of gaps. Sure, you can read manuals and read books and watch how-tos but that isn't a replacement for years of technical training and experience. Competency is lost and it takes time to develop it again if you can find enough of the right people to fill those slots.

I don't think anyone really knows the status of their country but I seriously doubt they could come back from this without a lot of consultation and guidance from outside.


It's more farked than that. The management structure is entirely corrupt. They don't even have the people who know how to hire the people they need. Hell, they don't even have the people who know what kind of people they need.
 
2020-05-23 7:00:09 AM  

OgreMagi: lolmao500: Russia and China dont have the ressources to show up to Venezuela en force. They're a joke.

China has the manpower, they just don't have sufficient deep water navy resources to exert power more than a few miles from their shoreline.  Russia might have the naval resources, but they are so screwed on the financial front that they can't pay for an operation that far away from home.

If China and Russia were to team up, however shiat could get real.


LoL, I don't think the Russian Navy has the logistics support to sail far from home. Especially given their maintenance track record. Operational capabilities suck.
 
2020-05-23 7:04:56 AM  

WithinReason: wildcardjack: I'd hope we let them have this one. Then start bombing them with Humanitarian Daily Rations. That would destabilize everything.

They could produce enough agricultural goods to support themselves, but things went kinda Lysenko about 20-30 years ago. It was easier to import from other countries than to support native productivity. But things have been shiat long enough you'd think they would have rebuilt native industries by now.

I'm going to guess they nationalized all the corporate farms and kicked out the "white devils" that knew how to actually maintain large farming areas for more then one season?


They went full killing fields, just slowly and less killing. Anyone with a brain and the means has left for greener pastures.
 
2020-05-23 7:07:59 AM  
Great, Russian Buk AA. Demonstrably good at shooting down commercial airliners.
 
2020-05-23 8:08:49 AM  

lolmao500: Meanwhile trump continues with his stupid ass sanctions that do nothing and only hurt the venezuelian people.

What about we KILL MADURO instead?

Just do a surprise SLBM strike on the presidential palace during the night or something. Level it.

International law says we cant kill dictators but come on, its not like Murica ever gave a fark about international law.

When a country rich as Venezuela is going through a famine, its time for the world to act and if some assholes like Russia or China says no, you tell them to fark off and you do it anyway.


We'd need a Democrat in office to do that.

Republicans seem to want to biatch about Dictators, but do more to help them persecute their people than use our nearly limitless military power to help people.

I'm thinking modern history; Serbia, Somalia, Libya, and Syria.
 
2020-05-23 8:34:21 AM  
To all the farkers here criticizing Venezuela, let's not forget that "As of December 2019, the United Nations General Assembly recognizes the Maduro presidency as the legal representative of Venezuela. Not Juan Guaido...
 
2020-05-23 9:12:25 AM  

fusillade762: Wait, Venezuela is *importing* oil??


Yes, Maduro and his commie buddies managed to fark up their country's economy THAT badly.
 
2020-05-23 9:42:39 AM  

07X18: To all the farkers here criticizing Venezuela, let's not forget that "As of December 2019, the United Nations General Assembly recognizes the Maduro presidency as the legal representative of Venezuela. Not Juan Guaido...


Thank you, Comrade.
 
2020-05-23 9:58:29 AM  

baron von doodle: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: iheartscotch: lolmao500: Meanwhile trump continues with his stupid ass sanctions that do nothing and only hurt the venezuelian people.

What about we KILL MADURO instead?

Just do a surprise SLBM strike on the presidential palace during the night or something. Level it.

International law says we cant kill dictators but come on, its not like Murica ever gave a fark about international law.

When a country rich as Venezuela is going through a famine, its time for the world to act and if some assholes like Russia or China says no, you tell them to fark off and you do it anyway.

Yeah? Because, that would solve one problem and potentially create more. What if China or Russia decide that THEY want a piece of Venezuela?

Also, how are you gonna track that fark down? He's probably in the deepest hole he can find

More importantly, it legitimizes using assassination of state leaders to further national goals.  The only thing protecting world leaders from each others' snipers is fear of quid pro quo.

We kinda tore up that idea when the Iranian general got atomized on Iraqi soil. US leaders became fair game for other nations at that point.


American generals traveling to foreign countries to plan terrorist attacks would still be a legitimate target.

Also he wasn't atomized. There was enough charred remains left to send back to Iran so they could have that whacky funeral procession.
 
2020-05-23 10:23:30 AM  

big pig peaches: 07X18: To all the farkers here criticizing Venezuela, let's not forget that "As of December 2019, the United Nations General Assembly recognizes the Maduro presidency as the legal representative of Venezuela. Not Juan Guaido...

Thank you, Comrade.


Argue with the UN inspectors who looked into the election, not me.  I'm just stating facts.  Name calling is all you got because the truth doesnt align with your opinion.
 
2020-05-23 10:26:04 AM  

07X18: To all the farkers here criticizing Venezuela, let's not forget that "As of December 2019, the United Nations General Assembly recognizes the Maduro presidency as the legal representative of Venezuela. Not Juan Guaido...


Protip: The UN can't change its recognition on anything while a member of the UNSC with a vested interest uses its veto power to prevent it from doing so.

As far as individual states go, look at your allies. That should tell Fark everything they need to know about your preference for Maduro:

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Venezuela also just joined China, Cuba, Saudi Arabia, and Sudan on the UN Human Rights Council, which should tell the average Farker everything they need to know about the current state of the UN.
 
2020-05-23 10:40:39 AM  
vowing to block any attempts by the United States to seize the ships on the high seas.

Is it still show boating when you lack the boats?
 
2020-05-23 11:37:57 AM  
More likely to hit the tankers with those things.
 
2020-05-23 11:43:59 AM  

jjorsett: baron von doodle: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: iheartscotch: lolmao500: Meanwhile trump continues with his stupid ass sanctions that do nothing and only hurt the venezuelian people.

What about we KILL MADURO instead?

Just do a surprise SLBM strike on the presidential palace during the night or something. Level it.

International law says we cant kill dictators but come on, its not like Murica ever gave a fark about international law.

When a country rich as Venezuela is going through a famine, its time for the world to act and if some assholes like Russia or China says no, you tell them to fark off and you do it anyway.

Yeah? Because, that would solve one problem and potentially create more. What if China or Russia decide that THEY want a piece of Venezuela?

Also, how are you gonna track that fark down? He's probably in the deepest hole he can find

More importantly, it legitimizes using assassination of state leaders to further national goals.  The only thing protecting world leaders from each others' snipers is fear of quid pro quo.

We kinda tore up that idea when the Iranian general got atomized on Iraqi soil. US leaders became fair game for other nations at that point.

A military officer engaged in leading hostile operations against the US on foreign soil isn't a state leader, he's a legitimate military target.


I'm sure you'd say the same thing if an Iranian sniper shot your fat orange Savior right?
 
2020-05-23 1:01:19 PM  

lolmao500: What about we KILL MADURO instead? ...
International law says we cant kill dictators but come on, its not like Murica ever gave a fark about international law.


North American Dynamite Monkey has already tried to get rid of South American Dynamite Monkey twice.
He tried to support Guido Gwailo or whatever his name is, who had no legitimacy, and he recently denies having sent over that bunch of mercenaries who were trying to start another coup who got caught almost immediately.

And the reason international common sense says you're not supposed to assassinate other countries' leaders is that then you're fair game for them to assassinate you, and most non-law-abiding politicians understand that it's a lot easier for your enemy to successfully assassinate you than for their military to beat your military and take over your capital city.  Yes, the US failed to kill Castro with exploding cigars or whatever nonsense Kennedy's CIA tried, but the KGB or Mossad could do the job just fine if they wanted.
 
2020-05-23 1:23:18 PM  

Murkanen: OgreMagi:

Except he is correct.  Socialist states always end up as dictatorships.

That's only true if you ignore all the socialist countries that aren't dictatorships, including a good two dozen that currently out score the US in every worthwhile metric (and yes,  personal freedom is one of them), or you conflate the authoritarian communism of Stalin or Mao with socialism.


They don't exist except in your fertile imagination.
 
2020-05-23 1:56:19 PM  

OgreMagi: Murkanen: OgreMagi:

Except he is correct.  Socialist states always end up as dictatorships.

That's only true if you ignore all the socialist countries that aren't dictatorships, including a good two dozen that currently out score the US in every worthwhile metric (and yes,  personal freedom is one of them), or you conflate the authoritarian communism of Stalin or Mao with socialism.

They don't exist except in your fertile imagination.


"Europe doesn't exist" is certainly a take.
 
2020-05-23 2:03:11 PM  

Murkanen: OgreMagi: Murkanen: OgreMagi:

Except he is correct.  Socialist states always end up as dictatorships.

That's only true if you ignore all the socialist countries that aren't dictatorships, including a good two dozen that currently out score the US in every worthwhile metric (and yes,  personal freedom is one of them), or you conflate the authoritarian communism of Stalin or Mao with socialism.

They don't exist except in your fertile imagination.

"Europe doesn't exist" is certainly a take.


None of the countries in Europe are socialist.

You are confusing social programs with socialism.  They are not the same.
 
2020-05-23 2:03:16 PM  

BigNumber12: 07X18: To all the farkers here criticizing Venezuela, let's not forget that "As of December 2019, the United Nations General Assembly recognizes the Maduro presidency as the legal representative of Venezuela. Not Juan Guaido...

Protip: The UN can't change its recognition on anything while a member of the UNSC with a vested interest uses its veto power to prevent it from doing so.

As far as individual states go, look at your allies. That should tell Fark everything they need to know about your preference for Maduro:

[Fark user image image 425x215]

Venezuela also just joined China, Cuba, Saudi Arabia, and Sudan on the UN Human Rights Council, which should tell the average Farker everything they need to know about the current state of the UN.


What the hell is that keyless map trying to tell me? Especially since it seems to have French Guiana in the same color as China, Iran, and Russia?
 
2020-05-23 3:22:18 PM  

07X18: big pig peaches: 07X18: To all the farkers here criticizing Venezuela, let's not forget that "As of December 2019, the United Nations General Assembly recognizes the Maduro presidency as the legal representative of Venezuela. Not Juan Guaido...

Thank you, Comrade.

Argue with the UN inspectors who looked into the election, not me.  I'm just stating facts.  Name calling is all you got because the truth doesnt align with your opinion.


New account bot like typing detected.
 
2020-05-23 3:25:12 PM  

Murkanen: OgreMagi: Murkanen: OgreMagi:

Except he is correct.  Socialist states always end up as dictatorships.

That's only true if you ignore all the socialist countries that aren't dictatorships, including a good two dozen that currently out score the US in every worthwhile metric (and yes,  personal freedom is one of them), or you conflate the authoritarian communism of Stalin or Mao with socialism.

They don't exist except in your fertile imagination.

"Europe doesn't exist" is certainly a take.


LoL, I see we have a "grass is always greener" type. Try it out for yourself sometime. It's not unicorns farting rainbows.
 
2020-05-23 3:58:52 PM  

valenumr: 07X18: big pig peaches: 07X18: To all the farkers here criticizing Venezuela, let's not forget that "As of December 2019, the United Nations General Assembly recognizes the Maduro presidency as the legal representative of Venezuela. Not Juan Guaido...

Thank you, Comrade.

Argue with the UN inspectors who looked into the election, not me.  I'm just stating facts.  Name calling is all you got because the truth doesnt align with your opinion.

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