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4 days ago  

Jeebus Saves: The amount of you farkers that think a mask is keeping you safe is beyond hilarious.


Because the number is so low, right?

Because everyone here apart from YOU understands just fine that wearing a mask isn't to protect THEM from the virus, it's to prevent THEM spreading the virus to others.

See, one can spread the virus just by breathing, and putting a barrier between your face and the outside world, you are stopping the droplets of water in your breath from infecting others.

Also : that thing about CO2? Complete bullshyte.
 
4 days ago  

GrogSmash: 12349876: The Conservatives took away any argument against forced masks with the Supreme Court ruling on the gay wedding cake.

You reap what you sow!

... huh?


Colorado case where a bakery refused to make a cake for a gay wedding. The conservative stance was basically "private businesses can deny service based on ideology."  And it won, which I'm fine with.  A private business is a private business, and the free market will do it's thing.

But that is a two way street is what the above poster was stating.  The same people who supported the cake maker are now saying it's against their freedumbs, well, it's the same farking idea.

Private business can discriminate on ideology as long as it is not a protected class.
 
4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: myth321: I thought they always wore masks, air quality being bad and all.  I don't know, just figured it would be like the toilet paper thing.

That is true. People were wearing masks, especially since SARS. But then some "experts" attributed that the increased usage during SARS, MERS, and now the China virus helped to decrease the infection shows that you can the public wearing masks and still have availability for health care workers.

If you thought they were effective but wanted to reserve them for health care then say so, tell people to make their own masks from the beginning because health care workers need them most because of exposure. Don't tell people they don't work and then reverse that, you do nothing but sow mistrust and doubt.


I hear ya. One part of my service work is to clean dryer ducts. Very fine waxy partials that get into your lungs if you don't were a mask. So, I always have a stock of masks. What I remember customers in the health field say, was  "lesser" masks don't help for what is coming in ( virus -wise), more for what is coming out of a person. But, I have had some  non-medical customers say they don't help all together. Either way, if wearing a mask is useless, I will gladly admit to it. I have plenty, so it's no big deal with me. I think too many people are focused on "being right", then "what is right".
 
4 days ago  
Cult Of Stupiditytm

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4 days ago  
Doesn't matter. See freeze peach. Nope, these poor widdle snowflakes can't get over having that slight itch behind their ears, the extra sweat under their noses, having to be considerate to others in any capacity whatsoever, or being told what to do by anyone who isn't on TV or wearing a badge.

I prescribe open mockery and swift kicks in the jimmies.
 
4 days ago  

Jeebus Saves: The amount of you farkers that think a mask is keeping you safe is beyond hilarious.


I'd like to cough on you. That's cool right?
 
4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: Benjimin_Dover: he was too busy killing seniors by forcing COVID positive patients into nursing homes.

Man the right is really working hard on pushing this trope.

Next time leftists claim they want to hold politicians accountable for the COVID-19 remember the hypocrite apologists who don't give a damn when liberal politicians are responsible for decisions that kill people.


Liiiiiiike wat exactly? If you say abortion you get a cock punch. Ooh let me guess again, a social safety net promotes MS13?
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: Jeebus Saves: The amount of you farkers that think a mask is keeping you safe is beyond hilarious.

I'd like to cough on you. That's cool right?


The wearer of the mask is not protected by the mask. It reduces the chance that the wearer will infect anyone else. If you do not wear a mask into a public place, you are denying me the right to NOT get infected by you.

Now, whose rights are being stepped on? Hmmm?
 
4 days ago  
Posted in 60's.   Say with me. No shirt, no shoes, no mask, no service.  Go get serviced elsewhere.
 
4 days ago  

Nullav: Doesn't matter. See freeze peach. Nope, these poor widdle snowflakes can't get over having that slight itch behind their ears, the extra sweat under their noses, having to be considerate to others in any capacity whatsoever, or being told what to do by anyone who isn't on TV or wearing a badge.

I prescribe open mockery and swift kicks in the jimmies.


Since, you're prescribing assault, I'd say let's just bring this to a head real quick.
If they don't start walking to the exit, within 10 seconds, after asking them to leave,
blast them in the face with bear spray. Added bonus, it will paint their face orange.

I know, I know, the mist will go all over the place. But what are you going to do with a grown man,
laying on the floor, clutching his jimmies in the fetal position?  Maybe, 10 sec, taser taser taser,
then open (taser) mockery.
 
4 days ago  

vert0: common sense is an oxymoron: vert0: common sense is an oxymoron: vert0: common sense is an oxymoron: docilej: why did the Liberals stop at forcing to make people wear just masks? If you have to wear masks in public then shouldn't the government enforce a glove wearing mandate too? Why one and not the other?

Because only a covidiot would compare something that benefits everyone (abatement of droplet transmission by asymptomatic carriers) with something that does nothing at best and is more likely counterproductive (you can wash your hands, but what are you going to do with those filthy gloves besides trash them and then wash your hands?).

When is the last time you left your house?  I work in a warehouse with prolly 800 people total, no problem.

At what distance from your coworkers?  Do you wear masks?  Gloves?  Employer-provided or personal choice?

As for me, I get out nearly every day for shopping and/or exercise and wear a mask where social distancing might be problematic, mainly stores and crowded sidewalks.

I think i said before, a warehouse.

All that bs is enforced.  Do you even know what a warehouse looks like in this day?

Must be nice to be able to shop every other day.  Would be awesome to be that fortunate.  I'm a Chef and had to get a new job.

Good on you.

Yes, I'm fortunate to have pretty much the ultimate in job security, but calling protective measures bullshiat doesn't help anyone except maybe the bastards at the top who just received thirteen figures' worth of wealth redistribution.  Are you willing to die for the Dow?

Why you keep looking at other mans money?

I'm a cook.
I started at 6.15.  I moved on.

fark off with the Dow shiat kid.


Fark off with that bs bullshiat, then.  Or do you truly believe that pointing out wealth inequality is worse for society than dismissing public safety precautions as bullshiat?
 
4 days ago  

myth321: Nullav: Doesn't matter. See freeze peach. Nope, these poor widdle snowflakes can't get over having that slight itch behind their ears, the extra sweat under their noses, having to be considerate to others in any capacity whatsoever, or being told what to do by anyone who isn't on TV or wearing a badge.

I prescribe open mockery and swift kicks in the jimmies.

Since, you're prescribing assault, I'd say let's just bring this to a head real quick.
If they don't start walking to the exit, within 10 seconds, after asking them to leave,
blast them in the face with bear spray. Added bonus, it will paint their face orange.

I know, I know, the mist will go all over the place. But what are you going to do with a grown man,
laying on the floor, clutching his jimmies in the fetal position?  Maybe, 10 sec, taser taser taser,
then open (taser) mockery.


I get that you're trying to drag it into absurdity, but y'know what? If you want to risk those around you because you don't want to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic, then go ahead and take in every awful thing the world wants to throw at you for being a shiatbag, or just stop being a shiatbag. Put on a mask, or walk out and stop being a cock about it. Also, jumping from mockery to tasing? Holy shiat, you are reaching.

I'm not about to forget that some of the same people talking about how wearing masks is oppression are also the same ones who were talking an awful lot more about what they could use their gun collections for when this whole mess started rolling in.
 
4 days ago  

AttentionWhore: Mock26: When you say ever other country, do you mean the odd ones or the even ones? And how are you listing them, by name? By population? By GNP?

If you have a question that is really stupid I'd be glad to answer. Do you have a question that isn't dumb as hell?


It is still about a million times smarter than any statement you have ever made.
 
4 days ago  

Serious Post on Serious Thread: DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: Benjimin_Dover: he was too busy killing seniors by forcing COVID positive patients into nursing homes.

Man the right is really working hard on pushing this trope.

Next time leftists claim they want to hold politicians accountable for the COVID-19 remember the hypocrite apologists who don't give a damn when liberal politicians are responsible for decisions that kill people.

Liiiiiiike wat exactly? If you say abortion you get a cock punch. Ooh let me guess again, a social safety net promotes MS13?


Now that you have called him out my guess is that instead of saying abortion he will bring up Benghazi. Or he might go really deep and say that control has prevented people from defending themselves. You never know with Drew's poser kid. I swear he has a spinning wheel of talking points and he just gives it spin and uses whatever comes up.
 
4 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: vert0: Mrtraveler01: vert0: Wow Fark.

Blame it on the orange man!  The American dream is dead!

Because a private entity is requiring you to wear a mask?

For a bunch of people who are supposed tough and rugged individuals, you guys sure act like a bunch of whiny pussies over this mask thing.

I wear a mask.

Everyone that goes to work wears a mask. What is your point?

I'm just sick of hearing people whine that our country is dying just because Costco is asking its shoppers to wear a mask.


They're missing a trick. They could make masks with a fringe! Automatic legal free pass.
 
4 days ago  

docilej: why did the Liberals stop at forcing to make people wear just masks? If you have to wear masks in public then shouldn't the government enforce a glove wearing mandate too? Why one and not the other?


Idiot's and escalation don't mix.
 
4 days ago  

Mock26: Serious Post on Serious Thread: DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: Benjimin_Dover: he was too busy killing seniors by forcing COVID positive patients into nursing homes.

Man the right is really working hard on pushing this trope.

Next time leftists claim they want to hold politicians accountable for the COVID-19 remember the hypocrite apologists who don't give a damn when liberal politicians are responsible for decisions that kill people.

Liiiiiiike wat exactly? If you say abortion you get a cock punch. Ooh let me guess again, a social safety net promotes MS13?

Now that you have called him out my guess is that instead of saying abortion he will bring up Benghazi. Or he might go really deep and say that control has prevented people from defending themselves. You never know with Drew's poser kid. I swear he has a spinning wheel of talking points and he just gives it spin and uses whatever comes up.


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4 days ago  

Nullav: myth321: Nullav: Doesn't matter. See freeze peach. Nope, these poor widdle snowflakes can't get over having that slight itch behind their ears, the extra sweat under their noses, having to be considerate to others in any capacity whatsoever, or being told what to do by anyone who isn't on TV or wearing a badge.

I prescribe open mockery and swift kicks in the jimmies.

Since, you're prescribing assault, I'd say let's just bring this to a head real quick.
If they don't start walking to the exit, within 10 seconds, after asking them to leave,
blast them in the face with bear spray. Added bonus, it will paint their face orange.

I know, I know, the mist will go all over the place. But what are you going to do with a grown man,
laying on the floor, clutching his jimmies in the fetal position?  Maybe, 10 sec, taser taser taser,
then open (taser) mockery.

I get that you're trying to drag it into absurdity, but y'know what? If you want to risk those around you because you don't want to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic, then go ahead and take in every awful thing the world wants to throw at you for being a shiatbag, or just stop being a shiatbag. Put on a mask, or walk out and stop being a cock about it. Also, jumping from mockery to tasing? Holy shiat, you are reaching.

I'm not about to forget that some of the same people talking about how wearing masks is oppression are also the same ones who were talking an awful lot more about what they could use their gun collections for when this whole mess started rolling in.


It's also the same people who go on and on and on about the "rights" of business...and don't seem to realize that includes the business being able to refuse you entry or ask you to leave.
 
4 days ago  

Bowen: Do other countries have this level of widespread derp? If not, what the hell is wrong with us?


In most countries the constitution is simply a set of ground rules for how government operates - when elections are held, how many people get elected, that sort of thing - and is more or less irrelevant to daily life. It seems to be mainly a US thing to use the constitution as a substitute for normal laws either directly (18th Amendment) or indirectly (Roe vs Wade, Hodges vs Obergefell).

As a result, the US constitution plays a far bigger role in your lives than the UK constitution (we do have one, contrary to popular belief) does in mine or the German Grundgesetz does in the lives of my cousin there. It's also much more of a political issue - which, almost by definition, a constitution shouldn't be. None of prohibition, abortion on demand or equal marriage had popular support and so the constitution was used to get them through. That's saying nothing about the merits of each cause, just that you use your constitution as a substitute for debate, convincing people and democracy generally, so it's no surprise that people objecting to masks turn to it to find a way out.
 
4 days ago  

dkulprit: docilej: why did the Liberals stop at forcing to make people wear just masks? If you have to wear masks in public then shouldn't the government enforce a glove wearing mandate too? Why one and not the other?

shiat, you're right, this is a slippery slope.  Next thing they'll make you wear bubble wrap when out walking and helmets in cars.  This is an outrage!  The liberals are out to control every aspect of our lives.  First masks then what?

The answer is because you don't have soft tissue mucous membranes on your hands, unless you go rubbing your face and sucking your fingers, as long as you sanitize your hands youre good.

Masks keep your spittle in your face hole areas, and it also filters said droplets that do escape if you breath it in.  So if you're a carrier, even asymptomatic it reduces the spread by quite a lot, and if you're not sick but near people who are it can filter the intake by a lot.

Your hands can be easily sanitized, but you can't go around snorting or gargling rubbing alcohol to sanitize your face area constantly.


Once Biden's prez everyone will have to make a pilgrimage to DC so he can sniff the women and girls. Men and boys too if he thinks they're cute.
 
4 days ago  
Meh.  Ask more than one.  In fact, ask 9 of them, and you'll get 12 different opinions.  That's kind of the problem.  Outside of some very basic stuff, constitutional law has been farked up the ass by lawyers for about 230 years now.  It's a short document written in plain, non-legalese English.  A person of average intelligence can easily understand what it says.  It shouldn't require years of advanced study.

/Wears a mask
//Spent an hour hand stitching it, of course I'm going to show it off.
 
4 days ago  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fusillade762: Conservatives: "I can deny service to gay people because FREEDUMZ!"

Conservatives: "You can't deny me service because FREEDUMZ!"

And silence when another black person is killed by random white crackers or police.


That's just icing.
 
4 days ago  

dittybopper: Meh.  Ask more than one.  In fact, ask 9 of them, and you'll get 12 different opinions.  That's kind of the problem.  Outside of some very basic stuff, constitutional law has been farked up the ass by lawyers for about 230 years now.  It's a short document written in plain, non-legalese English.  A person of average intelligence can easily understand what it says.  It shouldn't require years of advanced study.

/Wears a mask
//Spent an hour hand stitching it, of course I'm going to show it off.


No you won't.
No it isn't.
No it's not.
Please stop trying to law, you're no good at it. Stick to simple muzzle loading low impact shot and binary code, please.
 
4 days ago  

docilej: why did the Liberals stop at forcing to make people wear just masks? If you have to wear masks in public then shouldn't the government enforce a glove wearing mandate too? Why one and not the other?


You misspelled "intelligent people."
 
4 days ago  
When I was in high school, my American Government teacher was a Constitutional expert. One of the things he drilled into us about the First Amendment is that it basically boils down to this: You have the right to do whatever you want, however you want, wherever you want, as long as doing so doesn't infringe on anyone else's right to the exact same thing. Masks boil down to exactly this, even before you get to the concept of "it's a farking private business and they can tell you whatever they want."

If you are refusing to do something that protects others from spreading a disease, ESPECIALLY one which has a long incubation period and has a good possibility of being asymptomatic, then you are infringing upon my right to not get the disease, which would take way my inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Bottom line - rights go both ways, no matter how much the selfish people in the world want it to not be the case.
 
4 days ago  
Sooooo much of my "Darkened Dumbass" color in this thread....
 
4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: What about it?

How does that excuse a missed opportunity?

Because the medical advice at the time was that masks for the public were ineffective.


This guy's gonna roll out every troll trope and tactic he can.
 
4 days ago  

Nullav: myth321: Nullav: Doesn't matter. See freeze peach. Nope, these poor widdle snowflakes can't get over having that slight itch behind their ears, the extra sweat under their noses, having to be considerate to others in any capacity whatsoever, or being told what to do by anyone who isn't on TV or wearing a badge.

I prescribe open mockery and swift kicks in the jimmies.

Since, you're prescribing assault, I'd say let's just bring this to a head real quick.
If they don't start walking to the exit, within 10 seconds, after asking them to leave,
blast them in the face with bear spray. Added bonus, it will paint their face orange.

I know, I know, the mist will go all over the place. But what are you going to do with a grown man,
laying on the floor, clutching his jimmies in the fetal position?  Maybe, 10 sec, taser taser taser,
then open (taser) mockery.

I get that you're trying to drag it into absurdity, but y'know what? If you want to risk those around you because you don't want to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic, then go ahead and take in every awful thing the world wants to throw at you for being a shiatbag, or just stop being a shiatbag. Put on a mask, or walk out and stop being a cock about it. Also, jumping from mockery to tasing? Holy shiat, you are reaching.

I'm not about to forget that some of the same people talking about how wearing masks is oppression are also the same ones who were talking an awful lot more about what they could use their gun collections for when this whole mess started rolling in.


I was being serious. I would like to see (someone else) blast one of these people in the face with bear spray. I'm so sick of these self centered people. I understand why people act out like this, I just don't see what it truly gains. It just seems superficial.

As I said up thread, I wear a mask. I personally don't care if I catch it and die, I just don't want to be remembered as a "shiatbag" that made a lot of people sick or dead. I'm an appliance tech, I go into about 40 to 50 homes a week. Along with a mask, I wash my hands after every call, at the end of the day I sanitize my van with disinfectant or a UVC light. I just assume every house is infected. I've always been cautious about spreading stuff around, from cockroaches to colds.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.
 
4 days ago  

Bowen: Do other countries have this level of widespread derp? If not, what the hell is wrong with us?


America was founded by people who thought they knew better than everyone else and the cult of "rugged individualism" has made it 1000x worse.
 
4 days ago  

propasaurus: I can see where this is going to run headlong into the QAnon wood chipper:

Dan Barr, a constitutional law and first amendment lawyer at Perkins Coie.

Oh! You mean Killary law firm Perkins Coie who illegally colluded with Russia to get the illegal Steele dossier! Nice try!


Guilt by association.
 
4 days ago  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: fusillade762: Conservatives: "I can deny service to gay people because FREEDUMZ!"

Conservatives: "You can't deny me service because FREEDUMZ!"

And silence when another black person is killed by random white crackers or police.


Like the silence when blacks are murdered by other blacks (the vast majority of black homicide victims).
 
4 days ago  

Eightballjacket: Bowen: Do other countries have this level of widespread derp? If not, what the hell is wrong with us?

It's pretty ethnocentric to think that Americans are the only ones who do stupid things.


I didn't know that American was an ethnic group.
 
4 days ago  

myth321: Nullav: myth321: Nullav: Doesn't matter. See freeze peach. Nope, these poor widdle snowflakes can't get over having that slight itch behind their ears, the extra sweat under their noses, having to be considerate to others in any capacity whatsoever, or being told what to do by anyone who isn't on TV or wearing a badge.

I prescribe open mockery and swift kicks in the jimmies.

Since, you're prescribing assault, I'd say let's just bring this to a head real quick.
If they don't start walking to the exit, within 10 seconds, after asking them to leave,
blast them in the face with bear spray. Added bonus, it will paint their face orange.

I know, I know, the mist will go all over the place. But what are you going to do with a grown man,
laying on the floor, clutching his jimmies in the fetal position?  Maybe, 10 sec, taser taser taser,
then open (taser) mockery.

I get that you're trying to drag it into absurdity, but y'know what? If you want to risk those around you because you don't want to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic, then go ahead and take in every awful thing the world wants to throw at you for being a shiatbag, or just stop being a shiatbag. Put on a mask, or walk out and stop being a cock about it. Also, jumping from mockery to tasing? Holy shiat, you are reaching.

I'm not about to forget that some of the same people talking about how wearing masks is oppression are also the same ones who were talking an awful lot more about what they could use their gun collections for when this whole mess started rolling in.

I was being serious. I would like to see (someone else) blast one of these people in the face with bear spray. I'm so sick of these self centered people. I understand why people act out like this, I just don't see what it truly gains. It just seems superficial.

As I said up thread, I wear a mask. I personally don't care if I catch it and die, I just don't want to be remembered as a "shiatbag" that made a lot of people sick or dead. I'm an appl ...


Ah, sorry for going off, then. I'm used to people taking my "dickpunch assholes" posts off the deep end or calling for me to play nice in response to people who clearly aren't acting in anything resembling good faith, and boy howdy have I been making a bunch of those lately with this mess going on. Personally, I wouldn't go bear mace or tasing for tasing's sake, but a socially-distanced kick in the ass could definitely be used in some cases.
 
4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: 12349876: The Conservatives took away any argument against forced masks with the Supreme Court ruling on the gay wedding cake.

You reap what you sow!

FTA:Multiple viral videos have customers claiming their constitutional rights are being violated by mask policy.

B.. bu. but.... multiple viral videos....!


In a nation of well over 300 million people, a handful of occurrences is still many thousands or more from being anything but outliers.
 
4 days ago  

ZeroPly: The Constitution isn't like the repair manual for a 1998 Subaru Outback, where ten mechanics can look at it and come away with the same idea on how to change the starter.

The Supreme Court routinely splits 5-4 on what they think the Constitution means. Obviously if it's something that the top judges in the country find ambiguous, why should we trust the opinion of a single constitutional lawyer?


Because private property rights in this area of law have been ruled on in a consistent manner for many decades.
 
4 days ago  

bobobolinskii: 12349876: docilej: why did the Liberals stop at forcing to make people wear just masks? If you have to wear masks in public then shouldn't the government enforce a glove wearing mandate too? Why one and not the other?

Liberals aren't forcing people to wear masks.  They're giving business the FREEDOM to choose to only have masked customers.

And gloves don't work for viruses flying in the air from face to face.  And gloves don't work if you're touching your face with them.  Unless you are at risk for harming your hands or are touching other people, frequent hand washing and sanitizer is just as good as gloves.

Better, gloves get dirty too, look up cross contamination, so if you wear gloves and either touch nothing or replace them every time you touch something they're useless.


When you're handling things you will not be handling later with the gloves off, they are parsecs away from useless.  When you're handling things that can be cleaned later before ungloved touching, they are parsecs away from useless.  When you're handling things with surfaces that have viruses on them from people breathing all over them, they are not useless.

I swear to monkeys America is the land of, "Something ain't perfect?  Fark it nothing works everything's farked then it's all pointless let's not do a damn thing."

/and yes, I'm an American
//quit it FFS with this kneejerk "It's all useless" bullshiat
///none of it is a magic bullet, but none of it is useless either
 
4 days ago  

Bob Dolemite: its sad this is a question
its more sad that a news person treated it as a credible question
its even more sad that they called someone to get an answer
sadder than that is they published their findings


I kind of disagree with everything after your first line. It is sad it is a question. But with conservatives now arguing that private businesses exercising their lawful rights can be "tyrants" subject to "2nd Amendment solutions," this was an important story to cover.
 
4 days ago  

vert0: Mrtraveler01: vert0: Wow Fark.

Blame it on the orange man!  The American dream is dead!

Because a private entity is requiring you to wear a mask?

For a bunch of people who are supposed tough and rugged individuals, you guys sure act like a bunch of whiny pussies over this mask thing.

I wear a mask.

Everyone that goes to work wears a mask. What is your point?


THIS.

I'm a conservative. I'm also highly literate in science. I've frequently argued over the effectiveness of masks with both liberals and conservatives. Their stance has been that even an N95 mask is ineffective against a virus which is small enough to penetrate it. My stance is that Covid-19 is NOT an airborne virus, it exists on tiny water droplets that are aerosolized when a person coughs or sneezes, which the N95 and even simple cloth masks ARE effective at stopping at BOTH transmission points (from the infected person wearing a mask and to the uninfected person wearing a mask. Even if there is SOME penetration, we know that there is a threshold amount of virus particles one must receive (>?, that probably varies due to many factors including immune system, age, blood type, co-morbidities) to become infected.
 
4 days ago  

wademh: I have a medical condition. There is a burr lodged deeply up my ass. I will not let you inspect my ass, or describe the burr for you, or my ass. In fact, I won't actually confirm that it is a burr that is lodged up my ass even if it is obvious to everyone.

HIPPA rules prevent me from disclosing the nature of the burr or the exact excretory orifice that the burr is lodged in, but let your imagination run wild. However, let it it be known that the burr and orifice combination compel me to ask you to let me see your manager. I am Karen, hear me roar.


1. HIPAA doesn't have any rules regarding disclosing ones own medical condition.
2. Since I'm not a medical professional, it doesn't have any rules regarding me disclosing what you reveal to me.
 
4 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: Benjimin_Dover: he was too busy killing seniors by forcing COVID positive patients into nursing homes.

Man the right is really working hard on pushing this trope.


If by *trope" you mean an executive order that can be read by anybody who wishes to as it is a public record, then yeah.
 
4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: myth321: Also, people would probably have bought up all the masks, with nothing left for the "Essentials".

Then why did the populations of many Asian countries start wearing masks early on? This is pretty much why the recommendations came about in the first place.


They have a long history of wearing masks. It didn't start with Covid. This article is from 2014.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/2​9​9003/a-quick-history-of-why-asians-wea​r-surgical-masks-in-public/amp/
 
4 days ago  

Jeebus Saves: The amount of you farkers that think a mask is keeping you safe is beyond hilarious.


So, what you're saying is that your medical and scientific knowledge is <0.
 
4 days ago  

Trik: dkulprit: docilej: why did the Liberals stop at forcing to make people wear just masks? If you have to wear masks in public then shouldn't the government enforce a glove wearing mandate too? Why one and not the other?

shiat, you're right, this is a slippery slope.  Next thing they'll make you wear bubble wrap when out walking and helmets in cars.  This is an outrage!  The liberals are out to control every aspect of our lives.  First masks then what?

The answer is because you don't have soft tissue mucous membranes on your hands, unless you go rubbing your face and sucking your fingers, as long as you sanitize your hands youre good.

Masks keep your spittle in your face hole areas, and it also filters said droplets that do escape if you breath it in.  So if you're a carrier, even asymptomatic it reduces the spread by quite a lot, and if you're not sick but near people who are it can filter the intake by a lot.

Your hands can be easily sanitized, but you can't go around snorting or gargling rubbing alcohol to sanitize your face area constantly.

Once Biden's prez everyone will have to make a pilgrimage to DC so he can sniff the women and girls. Men and boys too if he thinks they're cute.


Waht?
 
4 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: Benjimin_Dover: he was too busy killing seniors by forcing COVID positive patients into nursing homes.

Man the right is really working hard on pushing this trope.

Next time leftists claim they want to hold politicians accountable for the COVID-19 remember the hypocrite apologists who don't give a damn when liberal politicians are responsible for decisions that kill people.

Wait, conservatives give a damn about decisions that kill people?

That's news to me.

I just find it funny that despite this being talked about in New York for months. Only now are conservatives worried about it.

I just get a kick out of how predictable you guys are for people who are supposedly "independent".

https://abc7ny.com/nursing-home-deaths​-cuomo-criticized-in-new-york/6168676/​


If you didn't let the news do your thinking for you or maybe watched or read something other than the one or two same sources, you would have known that your statement bolded above is factually incorrect. You just haven't been exposed to it or are ignoring it or are lying. Shiat, people were on this website biatching about the Cuomo death order practically since the day he issued it.


So many decisions that Cuomo made had the effect to kill people including forcing people to take their reusable bags into grocery stores slathered with the rona.  I'll be generous and say that they were not intentional for killing and instead say the guy is just either callous towards lives that he gives no shiats about (people who vote for not him or the "little people" like cashiers) or has less brains than Trumpy. Either way, leftists are circling the wagons around him to try and cover up his farkups to keep him as a viable PrezCan. You are part if that whether you know it or not by coming up in here and spreading lies about how Cuomo didn't do what he did. It"s in the standard liberal playbook. Keep repeating a lie often and widely. There are enough rubes out there who don't check anything and will believe it. Go look at the Faceplace. It's filled with it.
 
4 days ago  
What do you know, collage educated jerk. I spent whole 10 minutes internet searches.
 
4 days ago  

Nullav: myth321: Nullav: myth321: Nullav: Doesn't matter. See freeze peach. Nope, these poor widdle snowflakes can't get over having that slight itch behind their ears, the extra sweat under their noses, having to be considerate to others in any capacity whatsoever, or being told what to do by anyone who isn't on TV or wearing a badge.

I prescribe open mockery and swift kicks in the jimmies.

Since, you're prescribing assault, I'd say let's just bring this to a head real quick.
If they don't start walking to the exit, within 10 seconds, after asking them to leave,
blast them in the face with bear spray. Added bonus, it will paint their face orange.

I know, I know, the mist will go all over the place. But what are you going to do with a grown man,
laying on the floor, clutching his jimmies in the fetal position?  Maybe, 10 sec, taser taser taser,
then open (taser) mockery.

I get that you're trying to drag it into absurdity, but y'know what? If you want to risk those around you because you don't want to wear a mask in the middle of a pandemic, then go ahead and take in every awful thing the world wants to throw at you for being a shiatbag, or just stop being a shiatbag. Put on a mask, or walk out and stop being a cock about it. Also, jumping from mockery to tasing? Holy shiat, you are reaching.

I'm not about to forget that some of the same people talking about how wearing masks is oppression are also the same ones who were talking an awful lot more about what they could use their gun collections for when this whole mess started rolling in.

I was being serious. I would like to see (someone else) blast one of these people in the face with bear spray. I'm so sick of these self centered people. I understand why people act out like this, I just don't see what it truly gains. It just seems superficial.

As I said up thread, I wear a mask. I personally don't care if I catch it and die, I just don't want to be remembered as a "shiatbag" that made a lot of people sick or dead. I' ...


No worries. Everyone seems to be a little on edge with this. I use humor, but sometimes it get lost with just text.
 
3 days ago  

Bowen: Do other countries have this level of widespread derp? If not, what the hell is wrong with us?


"American Exceptionalism".

Been drilled into our heads since 1776.  Like Bill Murray's character in "Stripes" said, "Our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country on Earth.  We're mutts."  And so, we have a big inferiority complex about being viewed as anything less than the BEST country on Earth, especially after WW2, and despite every reasonable metric showing the US to be far down on the list.

Read most American accounts of WW2, and it was the Normandy invasion that meant the end of Germany.  However, there would have been no Normandy invasion if the Russians hadn't tied up so many German soldiers and so much German equipment on the Eastern Front.  The Russians paid a steep price to do that: 30-40% fatality rate of Russian soldiers.

The question these FREEDUMB folks need to ask is, "How did the US go from being the #1 creditor nation in 1945 to the #1 debtor nation in 1985?"  We've added $4T+ to the national debt in the past 3 years alone, but you don't hear the MAGAts, or the GOP as a whole, complaining about that.

Follow the money.  Your Constitutional rights are worth squat in a broke and broken (infrastructure) country.
 
3 days ago  

Mikeyworld: Serious Post on Serious Thread: Jeebus Saves: The amount of you farkers that think a mask is keeping you safe is beyond hilarious.

I'd like to cough on you. That's cool right?

The wearer of the mask is not protected by the mask. It reduces the chance that the wearer will infect anyone else. If you do not wear a mask into a public place, you are denying me the right to NOT get infected by you.

Now, whose rights are being stepped on? Hmmm?


We're not talking about public places. We're talking about private businesses, which are considered quasi-public places, and have a different set of rules. I know I'm botching the legal details, but I'm close.

So if I'm running a gun store and choose to allow people to come in with loaded weapons, that endangers other customers, but I'm fully allowed to do that legally. In fact, many Missouri gun stores are like that. There's a higher standard for private businesses, and right now a lot of the businesses in Jefferson County (redneck hellhole west of St. Louis), have already called the government's bluff, and the police are doing jack when people are refusing to wear masks.
 
3 days ago  

dkulprit: Colorado case where a bakery refused to make a cake for a gay wedding. The conservative stance was basically "private businesses can deny service based on ideology."  And it won, which I'm fine with.  A private business is a private business, and the free market will do it's thing.

But that is a two way street is what the above poster was stating.  The same people who supported the cake maker are now saying it's against their freedumbs, well, it's the same farking idea.

Private business can discriminate on ideology as long as it is not a protected class.


Here's the fault with your logic: there are many places in the US where there is only a single provider for a particular service.  Small town of 500 may have only one grocery store, one funeral home, one private hospital, one private nursing home, etc.  How easy it would be to run out every minority, gay, etc., simply by those sole providers refusing service.

The bakery case was a poor test case to bring to SCOTUS.  Refresh my memory:  did the gay men request anything unusual for their cake?  Did they ask for the small figures of the bride and groom to be replaced with small figures of 2 men blowing each other?

Refusing to decorate a cake with obscene or patently offensive material (and those are issues themselves) would be reasonable.  Refusing to provide any cake whatsoever is unreasonable.  IMHO, the bakery should have made the cake, but left any "final touches" they found offensive to the buyers.  If I owned a bakery and someone wanted a swastika on it, I'd reply, "I'll make the cake, but I'll leave it to you to put on the swastika because I find that symbol to be offensive."  The customer than has the option to buy only the cake, or to find a bakery that will add the swastika.

If a customer had left the bakery with a blue & white frosted cake, without any additional decorations, and the gay couple had said, "Make us one just like that!", then the bakery should have made it.
 
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