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4 days ago  

Benjimin_Dover: docilej: why did the Liberals stop at forcing to make people wear just masks? If you have to wear masks in public then shouldn't the government enforce a glove wearing mandate too? Why one and not the other?

Probably comes from the same part of their brain that believes healthcare is a right but food is not.


What?
 
4 days ago  

desertgeek: DrewCurtisJr: Keith Dudemeister: Take a second and really ponder the depth of idiocy it takes to be this offended about wearing a mask during a global pandemic.

Only a few months ago the "experts" were telling us that wearing a mask during a global pandemic was ineffective. If it was really that simple why the change?

Because no one knew enough about the virus to come to any conclusions. Now, we know more and can update the knowledge, such as the CDC saying today that it's less likely than previously believed that one can get the virus through surfaces. That's how science works: you update your information based on solid evidence.


Part of me really thinks they said that because they were trying go stop people from hoarding the N95 masks leaving very little for the hospitals.

The fact our supply chain for PPEs was strained at that point
 
4 days ago  

desertgeek: Because no one knew enough about the virus to come to any conclusions. Now, we know more and can update the knowledge, such as the CDC saying today that it's less likely than previously believed that one can get the virus through surfaces. That's how science works: you update your information based on solid evidence.


What is the "solid evidence" that you claim?
 
4 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: Benjimin_Dover: docilej: why did the Liberals stop at forcing to make people wear just masks? If you have to wear masks in public then shouldn't the government enforce a glove wearing mandate too? Why one and not the other?

Probably comes from the same part of their brain that believes healthcare is a right but food is not.

What?


For many years, there has been a push to give everybody free healthcare because it is "a right." It's been on the telly and stuff. You might have missed it. No biggie.
 
4 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: Part of me really thinks they said that because they were trying go stop people from hoarding the N95 masks leaving very little for the hospitals.


Oh, I think that was definitely a factor. It didn't work, but it played a role.
 
4 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: Part of me really thinks they said that because they were trying go stop people from hoarding the N95 masks leaving very little for the hospitals.


If they really thought masks were effective they would have recommended them to keep hospital cases down.
 
4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: Part of me really thinks they said that because they were trying go stop people from hoarding the N95 masks leaving very little for the hospitals.

If they really thought masks were effective they would have recommended them to keep hospital cases down.


They did think masks were effective, they just wanted to keep regular people from buying them because FEMA kept on stealing mask shipments, reducing availability.
 
4 days ago  
Well I wrote my own constitution, and article 1 is you're going to see balls and ass in Walmart.  Full stop.
 
4 days ago  

rebelyell2006: DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: Part of me really thinks they said that because they were trying go stop people from hoarding the N95 masks leaving very little for the hospitals.

If they really thought masks were effective they would have recommended them to keep hospital cases down.

They did think masks were effective, they just wanted to keep regular people from buying them because FEMA kept on stealing mask shipments, reducing availability.


Not to mention that our supply was low because even though manufacturers offered to ramp up production in January, the federal government said no.

https://www.vox.com/covid-19-coronavi​r​us-us-response-trump/2020/5/10/2125368​9/covid-19-masks-trump-white-house-pre​stige-ameritech
 
4 days ago  

myth321: They should have had an employee at the front door, stopping these people. You don't want people that are being confrontational inside your store.  Or the virus, for that matter.

I would love to see a video of all the other people chanting,
"Please leave, you're embarrassing yourself."

They may not have the virus, but they defiantly have a disease.


methinks perhaps he wore a mask to enter, then took it off
 
4 days ago  

vert0: I'm a Chef and had to get a new job.


And 36 million people who had jobs now don't.

But fark them, am I right?  It's all about you.
 
4 days ago  

Jgok: ViolentEastCoastCity: wademh: I have a medical condition. There is a burr lodged deeply up my ass. I will not let you inspect my ass, or describe the burr for you, or my ass. In fact, I won't actually confirm that it is a burr that is lodged up my ass even if it is obvious to everyone.

HIPPA rules prevent me from disclosing the nature of the burr or the exact excretory orifice that the burr is lodged in, but let your imagination run wild. However, let it it be known that the burr and orifice combination compel me to ask you to let me see your manager. I am Karen, hear me roar.

It's HIPAA, even if you're joking.

That's actually the joke.

There was a Karen story a few days ago about a woman who flipped out when she was told to wear a mask at a store. She claimed in her tweets that she had a "medical condition" that prevented her from wearing a mask, and that "HIPPA" meant she didn't have to tell anyone what that condition was.


Wasn't sure, and I like to correct bad info when I see it.  I understand that I'm a party pooper, so I'll see myself out.


/soooooo so many Karen stories lately :(
 
4 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: rebelyell2006: DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: Part of me really thinks they said that because they were trying go stop people from hoarding the N95 masks leaving very little for the hospitals.

If they really thought masks were effective they would have recommended them to keep hospital cases down.

They did think masks were effective, they just wanted to keep regular people from buying them because FEMA kept on stealing mask shipments, reducing availability.

Not to mention that our supply was low because even though manufacturers offered to ramp up production in January, the federal government said no.

https://www.vox.com/covid-19-coronavir​us-us-response-trump/2020/5/10/2125368​9/covid-19-masks-trump-white-house-pre​stige-ameritech


And what about just about every other Western country?
 
4 days ago  

rebelyell2006: DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: Part of me really thinks they said that because they were trying go stop people from hoarding the N95 masks leaving very little for the hospitals.

If they really thought masks were effective they would have recommended them to keep hospital cases down.

They did think masks were effective, they just wanted to keep regular people from buying them because FEMA kept on stealing mask shipments, reducing availability.


So the medical community was on a conspiracy to tell everyone in the Western world not to wear masks?
 
4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: rebelyell2006: DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: Part of me really thinks they said that because they were trying go stop people from hoarding the N95 masks leaving very little for the hospitals.

If they really thought masks were effective they would have recommended them to keep hospital cases down.

They did think masks were effective, they just wanted to keep regular people from buying them because FEMA kept on stealing mask shipments, reducing availability.

Not to mention that our supply was low because even though manufacturers offered to ramp up production in January, the federal government said no.

https://www.vox.com/covid-19-coronavir​us-us-response-trump/2020/5/10/2125368​9/covid-19-masks-trump-white-house-pre​stige-ameritech

And what about just about every other Western country?


What about it?

How does that excuse a missed opportunity?
 
4 days ago  

snowshovel: 2nd amendment says otherwise.


Aww, let me guess, you think that "shall not be infringed" means it cannot be regulated, amiright?
 
4 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: What about it?

How does that excuse a missed opportunity?


Because the medical advice at the time was that masks for the public were ineffective.
 
4 days ago  
its sad this is a question
its more sad that a news person treated it as a credible question
its even more sad that they called someone to get an answer
sadder than that is they published their findings
 
4 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: rcain: Remember when people in LA and other Coastal Cities had to black out their windows at night for fear of possible Japanese bombing raids after Pearl Harbor and our retaliatory Doolittle Raid?

These MAGAt a-holes would not only cry about the constitution and their "rights to light" but put big freaking nazi and Confederate themed light displays in their yards to show their "All American Patriotism"

I get so bothered with the comparisons to Nazi Germany too.

They had to stay in an attic with months on end without making any sound, let alone leaving the attic.

We can watch Netflix and order take out anytime we want.

Not the same thing!


I have to admit it's a bit disorientating that it isn't the liberals shrieking nazi at every imagined slight.
 
4 days ago  
Whenever I hear someone online claiming they are an advocate of Constitutional rights my first thought these days is that they got their degree from DKU.

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4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: rebelyell2006: DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: Part of me really thinks they said that because they were trying go stop people from hoarding the N95 masks leaving very little for the hospitals.

If they really thought masks were effective they would have recommended them to keep hospital cases down.

They did think masks were effective, they just wanted to keep regular people from buying them because FEMA kept on stealing mask shipments, reducing availability.

Not to mention that our supply was low because even though manufacturers offered to ramp up production in January, the federal government said no.

https://www.vox.com/covid-19-coronavir​us-us-response-trump/2020/5/10/2125368​9/covid-19-masks-trump-white-house-pre​stige-ameritech

And what about just about every other Western country?


When you say ever other country, do you mean the odd ones or the even ones? And how are you listing them, by name? By population? By GNP?
 
4 days ago  

Mock26: When you say ever other country, do you mean the odd ones or the even ones? And how are you listing them, by name? By population? By GNP?


If you have a question that is really stupid I'd be glad to answer. Do you have a question that isn't dumb as hell?
 
4 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: rebelyell2006: DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: Part of me really thinks they said that because they were trying go stop people from hoarding the N95 masks leaving very little for the hospitals.

If they really thought masks were effective they would have recommended them to keep hospital cases down.

They did think masks were effective, they just wanted to keep regular people from buying them because FEMA kept on stealing mask shipments, reducing availability.

Not to mention that our supply was low because even though manufacturers offered to ramp up production in January, the federal government said no.

https://www.vox.com/covid-19-coronavir​us-us-response-trump/2020/5/10/2125368​9/covid-19-masks-trump-white-house-pre​stige-ameritech


NYS did the pretty much the same thing when a certain manufacturer offered to ramp up production with a million square feet of factory space. Cuomo would rather people die than take help from it. The proof was in the fact that he was still complaining about a lack of medical supplies after getting the letter offer from that company. Either it was an intentional ignoring of the offer or he missed it because he was too busy killing seniors by forcing COVID positive patients into nursing homes. Either way, it was pretty sick.
 
4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: Keith Dudemeister: Take a second and really ponder the depth of idiocy it takes to be this offended about wearing a mask during a global pandemic.

Only a few months ago the "experts" were telling us that wearing a mask during a global pandemic was ineffective. If it was really that simple why the change?


Why the change? Over 90,000 people in the USA, changed their Face Book status to "Dead".

Seriously, I think they realized now, that this virus was a little worse that the last one. Also, people would probably have bought up all the masks, with nothing left for the "Essentials".  Now that restrictions are being lifted, the production has been ramped up, why not wear one? Either way, I wear a mask because it just seems like the right thing to do for myself and everyone else when I go into a customers home. I don't know if it helps , but I do know it doesn't hurt.
 
4 days ago  

Left Leg: myth321: They should have had an employee at the front door, stopping these people. You don't want people that are being confrontational inside your store.  Or the virus, for that matter.

I would love to see a video of all the other people chanting,
"Please leave, you're embarrassing yourself."

They may not have the virus, but they defiantly have a disease.

methinks perhaps he wore a mask to enter, then took it off


Well, that just a dick move, then.
 
4 days ago  

Fingerware Error: Bowen: Do other countries have this level of widespread derp? If not, what the hell is wrong with us?

I haven't heard of too many cell phone towers being destroyed in the US to stop covid-19.


That's because Vetinary has them well protected and even the grags are keeping an eye on the deep downers.
 
4 days ago  

myth321: Also, people would probably have bought up all the masks, with nothing left for the "Essentials".


Then why did the populations of many Asian countries start wearing masks early on? This is pretty much why the recommendations came about in the first place.
 
4 days ago  

Benjimin_Dover: he was too busy killing seniors by forcing COVID positive patients into nursing homes.


Man the right is really working hard on pushing this trope.
 
4 days ago  

Acidicnads: docilej: why did the Liberals stop at forcing to make people wear just masks? If you have to wear masks in public then shouldn't the government enforce a glove wearing mandate too? Why one and not the other?

While we are at it let's mandate chasity belts too. You know for the pro-life crowd. Keep the political repression separate, but equal...


With the gloves it's about the safety of the person wearing them, with the masks it's about the safety of others.  Hence why smoking is legal, but many places ban smoking in inside public establishments.
 
4 days ago  
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4 days ago  
Costco Employee Revokes Customer's Cart After He Refuses to Obey Mask Policy
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4 days ago  
Ok that video is in TFA. My fail
 
4 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: Benjimin_Dover: he was too busy killing seniors by forcing COVID positive patients into nursing homes.

Man the right is really working hard on pushing this trope.


Next time leftists claim they want to hold politicians accountable for the COVID-19 remember the hypocrite apologists who don't give a damn when liberal politicians are responsible for decisions that kill people.
 
4 days ago  

devilEther: Ok that video is in TFA. My fail


It's almost as if the same few videos are constantly referenced to try to make the issue seem bigger than it really is.
 
4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: myth321: Also, people would probably have bought up all the masks, with nothing left for the "Essentials".

Then why did the populations of many Asian countries start wearing masks early on? This is pretty much why the recommendations came about in the first place.


I thought they always wore masks, air quality being bad and all.  I don't know, just figured it would be like the toilet paper thing.

Also,
"Do you have a question that isn't dumb as hell? "
I didn't actually read what your were replying about,
but that gave me a pretty good chuckle.
 
4 days ago  

desertgeek: DrewCurtisJr: Keith Dudemeister: Take a second and really ponder the depth of idiocy it takes to be this offended about wearing a mask during a global pandemic.

Only a few months ago the "experts" were telling us that wearing a mask during a global pandemic was ineffective. If it was really that simple why the change?

Because no one knew enough about the virus to come to any conclusions. Now, we know more and can update the knowledge, such as the CDC saying today that it's less likely than previously believed that one can get the virus through surfaces. That's how science works: you update your information based on solid evidence.


So how come every time they tell us what to do, they're 100% positive that it's the correct action? Shouldn't they be telling people "this could be revised next Tuesday"?

There's a huge credibility problem in the US. A lot of people think the doctors are making up whatever sh*t the government is telling them to. It's going to get bad.
 
4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: devilEther: Ok that video is in TFA. My fail

It's almost as if the same few videos are constantly referenced to try to make the issue seem bigger than it really is.


The guy protesting in the video is certainly making an issue out of nothing.
I admit to spending time on Twitter and there are many thousands of assholes like this guy. Hell, there are some in my own family.
 
4 days ago  
The amount of you farkers that think a mask is keeping you safe is beyond hilarious.
 
4 days ago  

myth321: I thought they always wore masks, air quality being bad and all.  I don't know, just figured it would be like the toilet paper thing.


That is true. People were wearing masks, especially since SARS. But then some "experts" attributed that the increased usage during SARS, MERS, and now the China virus helped to decrease the infection shows that you can the public wearing masks and still have availability for health care workers.

If you thought they were effective but wanted to reserve them for health care then say so, tell people to make their own masks from the beginning because health care workers need them most because of exposure. Don't tell people they don't work and then reverse that, you do nothing but sow mistrust and doubt.
 
4 days ago  

desertgeek: DrewCurtisJr: Keith Dudemeister: Take a second and really ponder the depth of idiocy it takes to be this offended about wearing a mask during a global pandemic.

Only a few months ago the "experts" were telling us that wearing a mask during a global pandemic was ineffective. If it was really that simple why the change?

Because no one knew enough about the virus to come to any conclusions. Now, we know more and can update the knowledge, such as the CDC saying today that it's less likely than previously believed that one can get the virus through surfaces. That's how science works: you update your information based on solid evidence.


The best part about being an expert is that you're never wrong.
 
4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: Benjimin_Dover: he was too busy killing seniors by forcing COVID positive patients into nursing homes.

Man the right is really working hard on pushing this trope.

Next time leftists claim they want to hold politicians accountable for the COVID-19 remember the hypocrite apologists who don't give a damn when liberal politicians are responsible for decisions that kill people.


Wait, conservatives give a damn about decisions that kill people?

That's news to me.

I just find it funny that despite this being talked about in New York for months. Only now are conservatives worried about it.

I just get a kick out of how predictable you guys are for people who are supposedly "independent".

https://abc7ny.com/nursing-home-death​s​-cuomo-criticized-in-new-york/6168676/​
 
4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: China virus


Someone is desperate to make "fetch" happen.
 
4 days ago  

Mrtraveler01: I just find it funny that despite this being talked about in New York for months. Only now are conservatives worried about it.


Only now huh?

Cuomo's nursing home policies amid coronavirus 'a disaster,' says ex-Gov. Pataki
 
4 days ago  

Jeebus Saves: The amount of you farkers that think a mask is keeping you safe is beyond hilarious.


The masks are to protect others.  It's telling how many folks who shout "USA! USA!" and constantly laud previous generations for their great sacrifices won't do something as simple and easy as wearing a mask in order to protect their fellow citizens and help prevent viral spread.
 
4 days ago  

DrewCurtisJr: Mrtraveler01: I just find it funny that despite this being talked about in New York for months. Only now are conservatives worried about it.

Only now huh?

Cuomo's nursing home policies amid coronavirus 'a disaster,' says ex-Gov. Pataki


Yep. But within the past week is when I started to hear people online talk about it.

Figured Fox News or some right-wing meme told them about it.

Like I said, it's funny when they call others "sheep" when they just regurgitate what they hear on TV or some Facebook meme.
 
4 days ago  

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Oooh! Link to your etsy page? I have been looking for one just like it!!

XD
 
4 days ago  

Eightballjacket: Bowen: Do other countries have this level of widespread derp? If not, what the hell is wrong with us?

It's pretty ethnocentric to think that Americans are the only ones who do stupid things.


....  while there are definitely other people who do dumb shiat, they're usually a lot smaller of a minority, and they're not as loud.  Americans are ignorant and damn proud because it's our RIGHT.  So you'll see other people doing it in other places, but they aren't marching in their Capitol's demanding their rights not be infringed and claiming it's their choice.  They just go about their business not following instructions and keeping their heads down.

I'm going to find it ironic when these idiots who have done this want to go back to work once everything opens back up but a lot of businesses are going to be running loaner because the rest of the world has us blocked from travel and doing business with them because people couldn't give a damn about just sitting at home or wearing PPE when they went out and now international business and trade from US is ground to a halt.

I'm already seeing it with my company whose HQ are in Germany.  We've been chugging along, but clients abroad are specifically not ordering from the US and while the US locations have been the top earners worldwide for the past 5 years out of 26 worldwide locations, the US locations have had to cut back production while Germany, Italy, and France have had to pick up the Slack because the people we supply DON'T want to do business with the US branches.

Yay america.  We're number 1.  We'll shoot ourselves in the foot over perceived personal freedoms over the greater good of the nation as a whole.

We look like idiots.
 
4 days ago  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Some of you drooling idiots should have been wearing a mask for years

/Just so the rest of us wouldn't have to look at you


Many should have been wearing condoms since birth...
 
4 days ago  

docilej: why did the Liberals stop at forcing to make people wear just masks? If you have to wear masks in public then shouldn't the government enforce a glove wearing mandate too? Why one and not the other?


shiat, you're right, this is a slippery slope.  Next thing they'll make you wear bubble wrap when out walking and helmets in cars.  This is an outrage!  The liberals are out to control every aspect of our lives.  First masks then what?

The answer is because you don't have soft tissue mucous membranes on your hands, unless you go rubbing your face and sucking your fingers, as long as you sanitize your hands youre good.

Masks keep your spittle in your face hole areas, and it also filters said droplets that do escape if you breath it in.  So if you're a carrier, even asymptomatic it reduces the spread by quite a lot, and if you're not sick but near people who are it can filter the intake by a lot.

Your hands can be easily sanitized, but you can't go around snorting or gargling rubbing alcohol to sanitize your face area constantly.
 
4 days ago  

dkulprit: We'll shoot ourselves in the foot over perceived personal freedoms over the greater good of the nation as a whole.

We look like idiots.


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/what's sad and destroying us is people really think there is a cabal akin to this
//but I do believe in Obamagate
///his reason and intellect was a gateway drug for mobilizing racists and imbeciles to elect this asshole
 
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