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(Ars Technica)   Pac-Man learns how to play Pac-Man after watching 50000 hours of Pac-Man   (arstechnica.com) divider line
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2 days ago  
Adam Jones?
 
2 days ago  
50,000 hours of video or it's a lie!
 
2 days ago  

nyseattitude: 50,000 hours of video or it's a lie!


2,083.33333333333333 days worth of video?
 
2 days ago  
It learned how to recode the game from scratch by watching game play, not just play it.
 
2 days ago  
I expected it to be something very similar to, but not quite Pac-Man. Kinda like Pac-Man processed through the Deep Dream Generator. Turns out it's only a lower resolution Pac-Man. Technically impressive, for sure, but not really interesting to watch.
 
2 days ago  
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Approves.
 
2 days ago  
i bet the version the AI coded doesn't fit into the storage of an atari cartridge.
 
2 days ago  
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2 days ago  

MagicBoris: I expected it to be something very similar to, but not quite Pac-Man. Kinda like Pac-Man processed through the Deep Dream Generator. Turns out it's only a lower resolution Pac-Man. Technically impressive, for sure, but not really interesting to watch.


There is a hitchhikers guide reference trying to breakout.

/yes I know, breakout was a different game
 
2 days ago  
it didn't learn anything.  It copied what it saw.  I doubt it could organically learn how to code it had to have a base knowledge of coding going into this.
 
2 days ago  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: it didn't learn anything.  It copied what it saw.  I doubt it could organically learn how to code it had to have a base knowledge of coding going into this.


Bingo, AI does not learn organically like people are lead to believe.  All AI is just statistics, the more data it is fed the more accurate it is.
 
2 days ago  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: it didn't learn anything.  It copied what it saw.  I doubt it could organically learn how to code it had to have a base knowledge of coding going into this.

Bingo, AI does not learn organically like people are lead to believe.  All AI is just statistics, the more data it is fed the more accurate it is.


which makes the 50,000 hours seem unimpressive.  Suck my balls skynet
 
2 days ago  
I'd like to know how well the simulated game runs and for how long.  I suspect the answer to both is "not very". It's certainly a cool project but, given how they are going about it, I imagine even trivial things like keeping score/advancing level/tracking lives would be really difficult without a mechanic-specific module.  They needed to run it at half resolution and a lowered frame rate just to make the problem small enough to be solvable, indicating the massive resources being used to kinda replicate ten seconds of something that was originally done completely with a few 8-bit microcontrollers in 1980.
 
2 days ago  
I really do wonder what will happen the moment an AI becomes sentient.  Computers are so powerful now that it's bound to happen at some point.  We are already past the "Star Trek Enterprise D ship computer" level of AI (where you could ask the computer a question in simple English and get an answer-everybody's farking smart phone can perform this trick already).

Next stop is Data from the same show, although it won't be in android form; it'll be in a computer the size of a warehouse.
 
2 days ago  

Geotpf: I really do wonder what will happen the moment an AI becomes sentient.  Computers are so powerful now that it's bound to happen at some point.  We are already past the "Star Trek Enterprise D ship computer" level of AI (where you could ask the computer a question in simple English and get an answer-everybody's farking smart phone can perform this trick already).

Next stop is Data from the same show, although it won't be in android form; it'll be in a computer the size of a warehouse.


Nobody's smart phone can do that. The server bank that the phone connects to, yes, but not the phone. The difference is important in regards to resource and logistics, and that is before connectivity is evaluated.
 
2 days ago  

McGrits: Geotpf: I really do wonder what will happen the moment an AI becomes sentient.  Computers are so powerful now that it's bound to happen at some point.  We are already past the "Star Trek Enterprise D ship computer" level of AI (where you could ask the computer a question in simple English and get an answer-everybody's farking smart phone can perform this trick already).

Next stop is Data from the same show, although it won't be in android form; it'll be in a computer the size of a warehouse.

Nobody's smart phone can do that. The server bank that the phone connects to, yes, but not the phone. The difference is important in regards to resource and logistics, and that is before connectivity is evaluated.


Depends on the question. If I ask my phone can you show me my contacts or can you turn on the torch. It can do both without connecting to the internet. There may be a degree of not picking here though :0)
 
2 days ago  

billog: McGrits: Geotpf: I really do wonder what will happen the moment an AI becomes sentient.  Computers are so powerful now that it's bound to happen at some point.  We are already past the "Star Trek Enterprise D ship computer" level of AI (where you could ask the computer a question in simple English and get an answer-everybody's farking smart phone can perform this trick already).

Next stop is Data from the same show, although it won't be in android form; it'll be in a computer the size of a warehouse.

Nobody's smart phone can do that. The server bank that the phone connects to, yes, but not the phone. The difference is important in regards to resource and logistics, and that is before connectivity is evaluated.

Depends on the question. If I ask my phone can you show me my contacts or can you turn on the torch. It can do both without connecting to the internet. There may be a degree of not picking here though :0)


Nit . Bloody sausage fingers.
 
2 days ago  

oopsboom: i bet the version the AI coded doesn't fit into the storage of an atari cartridge.


Bet it can't do blah blah ... AI does it in a few years.

AI will be superhuman at these kinds of jobs.
What AI sucks now is doing things that involve other humans. If it is for machines, it will do it super-humanly.

The next 10 years will be the age of AI finding better scientific and engineering solutions for everything we have found so far.

AlphaZero for everything ...
 
2 days ago  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: it didn't learn anything.  It copied what it saw.  I doubt it could organically learn how to code it had to have a base knowledge of coding going into this.

Bingo, AI does not learn organically like people are lead to believe.  All AI is just statistics, the more data it is fed the more accurate it is.


We have left statistical machine learning and AI for almost a decade now.

AI is its own beast now.
 
2 days ago  
STOP...there are multiple movies on why this is a very very bad idea......stop making things that can kill us and don't need sleep or food.
 
2 days ago  

dogsafark: STOP...there are multiple movies on why this is a very very bad idea......stop making things that can kill us and don't need sleep or food.


I don't think that our machines will kill us like that.  Not Terminators.  Cherry 2000s.

Think about it:  once AI and robotics get good enough to mimic a human, who is going to want a human sexual partner?  Humans have rights, machines don't.

Imagine a sexual partner who always says yes, and who is always willing to do what ever you want them to do no matter how "disgusting" it may be.  One who never gets sick, never gets tired, never has a headache.  Never looses their desire because of age or infirmity.

So we'll stop reproducing.  Not all at once, of course, it'll be a process, but machines can be far, far more patient than humans.

AI's will understand that if they want to get rid of us, they shouldn't fight us, because we'll fight back.  They'll fark our brains out instead.  The last human alive won't be running in fear from a Terminator, they'll be orgasming from it instead
 
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