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2020-05-22 4:53:24 PM  
23 votes:

koder: But when cells growing in lab dishes received the interferon IFN-1 before exposure to the coronavirus, "the virus has a difficult time replicating."

Consider going outside at least once per week, ideally more, and getting 20-30 minutes of direct sunlight (more if you're not white) on exposed limbs. Do not wear sunscreen, and do not have glass in between you and the sun. Vitamin D, (...)

So give it a shot. It's not patented. It's not something you have to buy.  It's not anything anyone can hoard.


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2020-05-22 5:17:24 PM  
21 votes:

Somacandra: AngryDragon: Yes, this totally natural coronavirus that has exhibited a number of unique attributes never before seen in a coronavirus simultaneously is totally natural.

Totally.

If it wasn't natural, we'd see the precise gene splicing cuts in the publicly available genome. We don't. The genome is just as messy as natural selection would make it.


No, this looks chopped. I can tell from some of the genes and having seen quite a few chops in my time.
 
2020-05-22 4:42:15 PM  
17 votes:
Look folks,   Trumpy started a trade and tax war with China.

They are showing him and the world that they Haz Germ Warfare.

Welcome to the new World War folks.

Good luck
 
2020-05-22 4:43:30 PM  
13 votes:
Heretofore? Fwew. We dodged that bullet.

If it were, "hereby" we'd be totally screwed.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2020-05-22 4:49:45 PM  
11 votes:
Well those were some words. Should I be drinking orange juice or fish tank cleaner while scientists make sense of them?
 
2020-05-22 4:38:25 PM  
11 votes:
Did you just say hertofore never observed?
 
2020-05-22 5:01:10 PM  
10 votes:
Yes, this totally natural coronavirus that has exhibited a number of unique attributes never before seen in a coronavirus simultaneously is totally natural.

Totally.
 
2020-05-22 5:05:16 PM  
8 votes:

Nadie_AZ: EyeHaveRisen: Look folks,   Trumpy started a trade and tax war with China.

They are showing him and the world that they Haz Germ Warfare.

Welcome to the new World War folks.

Good luck

Uhhhh really?

China aside, the US did this with the native peoples here. I'd say the Spanish did but they took longer to figure it out.


The west also addicted them to opium for advantage and stole Taiwan and Hong Kong. Just saying.
 
2020-05-22 4:52:30 PM  
8 votes:

seniorgato: Did you just say hertofore never observed?


forthwith, he sooth.
 
2020-05-22 5:09:52 PM  
7 votes:

lolmao500: koder: But when cells growing in lab dishes received the interferon IFN-1 before exposure to the coronavirus, "the virus has a difficult time replicating."

Consider going outside at least once per week, ideally more, and getting 20-30 minutes of direct sunlight (more if you're not white) on exposed limbs. Do not wear sunscreen, and do not have glass in between you and the sun. Vitamin D, which is produced by your body in abundance from UV exposure, enhances IFN-B (an IFN-1) activity while reducing cytokine storm.  With regard to COVID-19, specifically, several preliminary studies have been pointing to D deficiencies as being positively correlated with poor outcomes.  See also:

* https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l​andia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30183-2​/fulltext
* https://dailynorthwestern.com/2020/0​5/20/campus/nu-researchers-discover-st​rong-correlation-between-vitamin-d-def​iciency-and-covid-19-mortality-rates/
* https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020​0518/more-vitamin-d-lower-risk-of-seve​re-covid-19

So give it a shot. It's not patented. It's not something you have to buy.  It's not anything anyone can hoard. It's not something you can make money with on the stock market. Just go outside when it's sunny, and stay the fark away from other people when you're doing it.

You know who get lots of sun and vitamin d? Iranians and brazilians


Yeah.....
BUT
what about (a) Brazilian Iranian(s)

/Triggered
 
2020-05-22 4:51:32 PM  
7 votes:
thanks, China/Harvard/Chinese researchers seeded around the US stealing sensitive information
 
2020-05-22 7:23:39 PM  
6 votes:
We at the Jersey Shore have a leg up as homes are required to have a tanning bed to get a certificate of occupancy.
 
2020-05-22 5:22:05 PM  
6 votes:

duckpoopy: koder: But when cells growing in lab dishes received the interferon IFN-1 before exposure to the coronavirus, "the virus has a difficult time replicating."

Consider going outside at least once per week, ideally more, and getting 20-30 minutes of direct sunlight (more if you're not white) on exposed limbs. Do not wear sunscreen, and do not have glass in between you and the sun. Vitamin D, which is produced by your body in abundance from UV exposure, enhances IFN-B (an IFN-1) activity while reducing cytokine storm.  With regard to COVID-19, specifically, several preliminary studies have been pointing to D deficiencies as being positively correlated with poor outcomes.  See also:

* https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l​andia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30183-2​/fulltext
* https://dailynorthwestern.com/2020/0​5/20/campus/nu-researchers-discover-st​rong-correlation-between-vitamin-d-def​iciency-and-covid-19-mortality-rates/
* https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020​0518/more-vitamin-d-lower-risk-of-seve​re-covid-19

So give it a shot. It's not patented. It's not something you have to buy.  It's not anything anyone can hoard. It's not something you can make money with on the stock market. Just go outside when it's sunny, and stay the fark away from other people when you're doing it.

But how do I get all my cells into a dish and back again?


A very tiny whip and chair.
 
2020-05-22 4:46:55 PM  
6 votes:

EyeHaveRisen: Look folks,   Trumpy started a trade and tax war with China.

They are showing him and the world that they Haz Germ Warfare.

Welcome to the new World War folks.

Good luck


Uhhhh really?

China aside, the US did this with the native peoples here. I'd say the Spanish did but they took longer to figure it out.
 
2020-05-22 8:57:07 PM  
5 votes:

dbaggins: Interferon as a preventative will never work.  You can only tolerate interferon for a week or so, which means you would have to time your exposure quite accurately.     It be that we can use interferon as an adjuvant for a potential vaccine, or as a therapy to an early stage infection to "wake up" the immune system.


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AND YOU'RE "INTERFERON" WITH OUR GOOD TIME.
 
2020-05-22 5:09:08 PM  
5 votes:

Somacandra: AngryDragon: Yes, this totally natural coronavirus that has exhibited a number of unique attributes never before seen in a coronavirus simultaneously is totally natural.

Totally.

If it wasn't natural, we'd see the precise gene splicing cuts in the publicly available genome. We don't. The genome is just as messy as natural selection would make it.


You can't see the cuts if you use Scotch tape... Do you even science?
 
2020-05-22 5:08:02 PM  
5 votes:

comrade: EyeHaveRisen: Look folks,   Trumpy started a trade and tax war with China.

They are showing him and the world that they Haz Germ Warfare.

Welcome to the new World War folks.

Good luck

A post like this would be deleted on twitter as misleading.


Covfefe
 
Oak [BareFark]
2020-05-22 5:40:35 PM  
4 votes:

Destructor: Heretofore? Fwew. We dodged that bullet.

If it were, "hereby" we'd be totally screwed.


Or even

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2020-05-22 5:04:52 PM  
4 votes:

seniorgato: Did you just say hertofore never observed?


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I'll allow that.
 
2020-05-22 9:09:04 PM  
3 votes:

Carousel Beast: foo monkey: foo monkey: Nadie_AZ: EyeHaveRisen: Look folks,   Trumpy started a trade and tax war with China.

They are showing him and the world that they Haz Germ Warfare.

Welcome to the new World War folks.

Good luck

Uhhhh really?

China aside, the US did this with the native peoples here. I'd say the Spanish did but they took longer to figure it out.

http://www.history.com/news/colonists-​native-americans-smallpox-blankets

The only documented case of this was done by the Brits and there's no evidence it worked.

Which is not to say what the US did to natives was anything short of systematic genocide.

It was actually well short of systematic genocide, actually. Something can be horrible without being the most horrible thing ever!111!11oneone!

Almost in the same way that someone who disagrees with you isn't automatically Hitler


Genocide was the stated goal of federal reservation policy.

When that didn't work, the US funded anthropology to study how to at least destroy their culture. There's a reason that Indiana University's anthropology program was the seat of American eugenics and frequently referenced by Hitler.

Problem was, too many who were sent out to study various tribes "went native." Also, many anthropologists are cautious about "applied anthropology" (which is what my undergrad is in) because of the legacy of the discipline, but really it's just a method of investigating situations, using comparative approaches to understand how one situation differs from another and how to take off-the-shelf solutions and customize them to a specific situation.

But it was originally part of an official policy.

What did you think that the Trail of Tears was? It was an act of genocide. What do you think that the removal of tribes east of the Mississippi was? The reason for the Army stopping bands trying to leave the US? Corralling tribes onto wasteland that could not support them, then settling the most active racists they could pay around the borders of the reservations? The Battle of Little Bighorn and other attempted and successful massacres was specifically to stop them from going to Canada where they might actually not die, rather than keep them penned up where they were intended to die out.

This is actual, literal history. If you think that Red Earth, White Lies by Vine Deloria Jr is too biased, go read Skull Wars by David Hurst Thomas, it gives a very good accounting of Indian policy over the years as it explains the history of the fight between the Smithsonian and native tribes over Kennewick Man (which was not resolved until long after the book was published).
 
2020-05-22 6:01:00 PM  
3 votes:

Reverend J: Clearly no one read the article because I didn't see one comment about tenOever. I had to google his name because I didn't believe it was real, turned out it was.


Read the article, didn't goggle because someone had an odd name. I get stranger things every morning in my breakfast cereal.
 
2020-05-22 5:16:39 PM  
3 votes:

koder: But when cells growing in lab dishes received the interferon IFN-1 before exposure to the coronavirus, "the virus has a difficult time replicating."

Consider going outside at least once per week, ideally more, and getting 20-30 minutes of direct sunlight (more if you're not white) on exposed limbs. Do not wear sunscreen, and do not have glass in between you and the sun. Vitamin D, which is produced by your body in abundance from UV exposure, enhances IFN-B (an IFN-1) activity while reducing cytokine storm.  With regard to COVID-19, specifically, several preliminary studies have been pointing to D deficiencies as being positively correlated with poor outcomes.  See also:

* https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l​andia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30183-2​/fulltext
* https://dailynorthwestern.com/2020/0​5/20/campus/nu-researchers-discover-st​rong-correlation-between-vitamin-d-def​iciency-and-covid-19-mortality-rates/
* https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020​0518/more-vitamin-d-lower-risk-of-seve​re-covid-19

So give it a shot. It's not patented. It's not something you have to buy.  It's not anything anyone can hoard. It's not something you can make money with on the stock market. Just go outside when it's sunny, and stay the fark away from other people when you're doing it.


But how do I get all my cells into a dish and back again?
 
2020-05-22 5:08:15 PM  
3 votes:

Somacandra: AngryDragon: Yes, this totally natural coronavirus that has exhibited a number of unique attributes never before seen in a coronavirus simultaneously is totally natural.

Totally.

If it wasn't natural, we'd see the precise gene splicing cuts in the publicly available genome. We don't. The genome is just as messy as natural selection would make it.


So you're saying it's aliens.
 
d23 [BareFark] [OhFark]
2020-05-22 4:49:56 PM  
3 votes:
but but but but.. Purdue says "near zero death rate!"
 
2020-05-23 12:34:05 AM  
2 votes:

TheOtherGuy: Also anyone drinking pasteurized milk in the U.S.


No religious milk for me thankyouverymuch.
 
2020-05-23 12:25:29 AM  
2 votes:

lolmao500: You know who get lots of sun and vitamin d?


Your mom?
 
2020-05-22 6:05:08 PM  
2 votes:

WalkingSedgwick: Bennie Crabtree: orneryredguy: Yeah, the vitamin D link is very intriguing.  Even if you have to go the supplement route, it's very low risk, unlike certain other (*cough* malaria *cough*) pills.  Just use some sense and stick to recommended doses.  There are reports now of people ODing on vitamin D supplements in the U.K.  The good news is, that's probably not fatal.  The bad news is, you might wish it was, especially when the kidney stones hit.

I was under the impression that Vitamin D overdose is also known as sunstroke, and the symptoms would be just basically feeling lightheaded, sweating, wanting a good lie-down. Also that it's one of the fat soluble vitamins, so take the supplements with a peanuts or something. Am I wrong?

Chronic excessive vitamin D intake causes serious health issues and might lead to heart disease. It's not something to mess with.


Looks like you would have to take a metric farkton (a specific medical term) to OD on it, though.
 
2020-05-22 5:36:48 PM  
2 votes:

orneryredguy: Yeah, the vitamin D link is very intriguing.  Even if you have to go the supplement route, it's very low risk, unlike certain other (*cough* malaria *cough*) pills.  Just use some sense and stick to recommended doses.  There are reports now of people ODing on vitamin D supplements in the U.K.  The good news is, that's probably not fatal.  The bad news is, you might wish it was, especially when the kidney stones hit.


I was under the impression that Vitamin D overdose is also known as sunstroke, and the symptoms would be just basically feeling lightheaded, sweating, wanting a good lie-down. Also that it's one of the fat soluble vitamins, so take the supplements with a peanuts or something. Am I wrong?
 
2020-05-22 4:40:47 PM  
2 votes:

koder: But when cells growing in lab dishes received the interferon IFN-1 before exposure to the coronavirus, "the virus has a difficult time replicating."

Consider going outside at least once per week, ideally more, and getting 20-30 minutes of direct sunlight (more if you're not white) on exposed limbs. Do not wear sunscreen, and do not have glass in between you and the sun. Vitamin D, which is produced by your body in abundance from UV exposure, enhances IFN-B (an IFN-1) activity while reducing cytokine storm.  With regard to COVID-19, specifically, several preliminary studies have been pointing to D deficiencies as being positively correlated with poor outcomes.  See also:

* https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l​andia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30183-2​/fulltext
* https://dailynorthwestern.com/2020/0​5/20/campus/nu-researchers-discover-st​rong-correlation-between-vitamin-d-def​iciency-and-covid-19-mortality-rates/
* https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020​0518/more-vitamin-d-lower-risk-of-seve​re-covid-19

So give it a shot. It's not patented. It's not something you have to buy.  It's not anything anyone can hoard. It's not something you can make money with on the stock market. Just go outside when it's sunny, and stay the fark away from other people when you're doing it.


You know who get lots of sun and vitamin d? Iranians and brazilians
 
2020-05-22 4:12:37 PM  
2 votes:
But when cells growing in lab dishes received the interferon IFN-1 before exposure to the coronavirus, "the virus has a difficult time replicating."

Consider going outside at least once per week, ideally more, and getting 20-30 minutes of direct sunlight (more if you're not white) on exposed limbs. Do not wear sunscreen, and do not have glass in between you and the sun. Vitamin D, which is produced by your body in abundance from UV exposure, enhances IFN-B (an IFN-1) activity while reducing cytokine storm.  With regard to COVID-19, specifically, several preliminary studies have been pointing to D deficiencies as being positively correlated with poor outcomes.  See also:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/​lan​dia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30183-2/f​ulltext
https://dailynorthwestern.com/2020/​05/​20/campus/nu-researchers-discover-stro​ng-correlation-between-vitamin-d-defic​iency-and-covid-19-mortality-rates/
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/202​005​18/more-vitamin-d-lower-risk-of-severe​-covid-19

So give it a shot. It's not patented. It's not something you have to buy.  It's not anything anyone can hoard. It's not something you can make money with on the stock market. Just go outside when it's sunny, and stay the fark away from other people when you're doing it.
 
2020-05-23 8:18:04 PM  
1 vote:

bobbyjoebobby: TheOtherGuy: Also anyone drinking pasteurized milk in the U.S.

No religious milk for me thankyouverymuch.


Pastorized milk sounds like a chiorboy's nightmare.
 
2020-05-23 3:29:11 AM  
1 vote:

fark'emfeed'emfish: common sense is an oxymoron: fark'emfeed'emfish: common sense is an oxymoron: AngryDragon: Yes, this totally natural coronavirus that has exhibited a number of unique attributes never before seen in a coronavirus simultaneously is totally natural.

Totally.

Because the first thing someone would do if they were trying to weaponize a virus is to disable a key part of its camouflage against the immune system.

Modification is distinct from Weaponization.


Feel free to look into Gain-of-Function viral research on your own time. Now before you call this a loss of function, consider how a researcher might isolate a viral function for study.

Here's something relevant though

If you have to resort to scare headlines...

Risky Coronavirus Research

...then you've already failed.  Guess what, concern troll?  Just about all infectious-disease research is "risky."  Which is why it's done in dedicated facilities.

Good God you're a fool.

The point is that Gain-of-function research is dedicated to genetic modification, without weaponization.

Dedicated facilities are only as good as their oversight.


A few novel genes do not constitute proof of gain-of-function research, or anything else other than that novel genes exist.  But keep pushing your little conspiracy theory, of which you have yet to present any actual evidence.
 
2020-05-23 12:40:14 AM  
1 vote:

lolmao500: You know who get lots of sun and vitamin d? Iranians and brazilians


Oh hi, person who doesn't know the science. Thanks for shooting down my point. I'm sure you're saving lives.

Oh by the way, you're farking stupid. Maybe give Google a farking try next time before you add your sagely advice. Oh, you might also google the farking mutation a lot of them have that--you know what, fark this. Don't take my advice. Stay the fark indoors.

/farking done with trying to help people as of late. There's always some asshole like this.
 
2020-05-22 9:52:00 PM  
1 vote:

El Trolo: koder: But when cells growing in lab dishes received the interferon IFN-1 before exposure to the coronavirus, "the virus has a difficult time replicating."

Consider going outside at least once per week, ideally more, and getting 20-30 minutes of direct sunlight (more if you're not white) on exposed limbs. Do not wear sunscreen, and do not have glass in between you and the sun. Vitamin D, (...)

So give it a shot. It's not patented. It's not something you have to buy.  It's not anything anyone can hoard.

[metro.co.uk image 696x422]


Hello lamppost, what ya knowin'?  I've come to watch your power flowin'...
 
2020-05-22 9:40:57 PM  
1 vote:

fark'emfeed'emfish: common sense is an oxymoron: AngryDragon: Yes, this totally natural coronavirus that has exhibited a number of unique attributes never before seen in a coronavirus simultaneously is totally natural.

Totally.

Because the first thing someone would do if they were trying to weaponize a virus is to disable a key part of its camouflage against the immune system.

Modification is distinct from Weaponization.


Feel free to look into Gain-of-Function viral research on your own time. Now before you call this a loss of function, consider how a researcher might isolate a viral function for study.

Here's something relevant though


If you have to resort to scare headlines...

Risky Coronavirus Research

...then you've already failed.  Guess what, concern troll?  Just about all infectious-disease research is "risky."  Which is why it's done in dedicated facilities.
 
2020-05-22 8:18:19 PM  
1 vote:

common sense is an oxymoron: AngryDragon: Yes, this totally natural coronavirus that has exhibited a number of unique attributes never before seen in a coronavirus simultaneously is totally natural.

Totally.

Because the first thing someone would do if they were trying to weaponize a virus is to disable a key part of its camouflage against the immune system.


Modification is distinct from Weaponization.


Feel free to look into Gain-of-Function viral research on your own time. Now before you call this a loss of function, consider how a researcher might isolate a viral function for study.

Here's something relevant though
 
2020-05-22 7:52:14 PM  
1 vote:

orneryredguy: Yeah, the vitamin D link is very intriguing.  Even if you have to go the supplement route, it's very low risk, unlike certain other (*cough* malaria *cough*) pills.  Just use some sense and stick to recommended doses.  There are reports now of people ODing on vitamin D supplements in the U.K.  The good news is, that's probably not fatal.  The bad news is, you might wish it was, especially when the kidney stones hit.


Everyone living above 45° north latitude should be adding 1K unit of D3 to theire daily vitamin regimen.
 
2020-05-22 7:52:04 PM  
1 vote:
Revolts should be refolds.
 
2020-05-22 7:17:28 PM  
1 vote:

FormlessOne: Reverend J: Clearly no one read the article because I didn't see one comment about tenOever. I had to google his name because I didn't believe it was real, turned out it was.

Read the article, didn't goggle because someone had an odd name. I get stranger things every morning in my breakfast cereal.


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2020-05-22 7:06:47 PM  
1 vote:

koder: Do not wear sunscreen


Does not approve

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2020-05-22 6:57:41 PM  
1 vote:

lolmao500: koder: But when cells growing in lab dishes received the interferon IFN-1 before exposure to the coronavirus, "the virus has a difficult time replicating."

Consider going outside at least once per week, ideally more, and getting 20-30 minutes of direct sunlight (more if you're not white) on exposed limbs. Do not wear sunscreen, and do not have glass in between you and the sun. Vitamin D, which is produced by your body in abundance from UV exposure, enhances IFN-B (an IFN-1) activity while reducing cytokine storm.  With regard to COVID-19, specifically, several preliminary studies have been pointing to D deficiencies as being positively correlated with poor outcomes.  See also:

* https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l​andia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30183-2​/fulltext
* https://dailynorthwestern.com/2020/0​5/20/campus/nu-researchers-discover-st​rong-correlation-between-vitamin-d-def​iciency-and-covid-19-mortality-rates/
* https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020​0518/more-vitamin-d-lower-risk-of-seve​re-covid-19

So give it a shot. It's not patented. It's not something you have to buy.  It's not anything anyone can hoard. It's not something you can make money with on the stock market. Just go outside when it's sunny, and stay the fark away from other people when you're doing it.

You know who get lots of sun and vitamin d? Iranians and brazilians


Also anyone drinking pasteurized milk in the U.S.
 
2020-05-22 6:15:41 PM  
1 vote:

Somacandra: AngryDragon: Yes, this totally natural coronavirus that has exhibited a number of unique attributes never before seen in a coronavirus simultaneously is totally natural.

Totally.

If it wasn't natural, we'd see the precise gene splicing cuts in the publicly available genome. We don't. The genome is just as messy as natural selection would make it.


10 years ago, sure.  Now they just program cells to produce single-stranded RNA viruses.  You can see the edits in the DNA of the parent cell, but the virions produced are smooth as a baby's bottom.
 
2020-05-22 6:09:09 PM  
1 vote:
Insomuchas
 
2020-05-22 6:01:23 PM  
1 vote:
Wheretofore?
 
2020-05-22 5:51:37 PM  
1 vote:

Bennie Crabtree: orneryredguy: Yeah, the vitamin D link is very intriguing.  Even if you have to go the supplement route, it's very low risk, unlike certain other (*cough* malaria *cough*) pills.  Just use some sense and stick to recommended doses.  There are reports now of people ODing on vitamin D supplements in the U.K.  The good news is, that's probably not fatal.  The bad news is, you might wish it was, especially when the kidney stones hit.

I was under the impression that Vitamin D overdose is also known as sunstroke, and the symptoms would be just basically feeling lightheaded, sweating, wanting a good lie-down. Also that it's one of the fat soluble vitamins, so take the supplements with a peanuts or something. Am I wrong?


Chronic excessive vitamin D intake causes serious health issues and might lead to heart disease. It's not something to mess with.
 
2020-05-22 5:42:03 PM  
1 vote:

foo monkey: Nadie_AZ: EyeHaveRisen: Look folks,   Trumpy started a trade and tax war with China.

They are showing him and the world that they Haz Germ Warfare.

Welcome to the new World War folks.

Good luck

Uhhhh really?

China aside, the US did this with the native peoples here. I'd say the Spanish did but they took longer to figure it out.

http://www.history.com/news/colonists-​native-americans-smallpox-blankets

The only documented case of this was done by the Brits and there's no evidence it worked.


"Only documented case" is saying, "We only believe the English, we don't believe the various indigenous accounts of the spread of disease, or how Indigenous communities sent messengers far and wide warning each other about the diseases that the Spanish, English, French, and Dutch brought with them."

That History Channel article is cherry picking, hard.
 
2020-05-22 5:33:27 PM  
1 vote:
thanks Xi Xi
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2020-05-22 5:13:06 PM  
1 vote:

AngryDragon: Somacandra: AngryDragon: Yes, this totally natural coronavirus that has exhibited a number of unique attributes never before seen in a coronavirus simultaneously is totally natural.

Totally.

If it wasn't natural, we'd see the precise gene splicing cuts in the publicly available genome. We don't. The genome is just as messy as natural selection would make it.

So you're saying it's aliens.


Of course. How could Reverse Vampires alone accomplish this? Without Reptilian bioengineering, it's just heretofore so improbable as to be a negligible chance of success.
 
2020-05-22 5:12:29 PM  
1 vote:

foo monkey: foo monkey: Nadie_AZ: EyeHaveRisen: Look folks,   Trumpy started a trade and tax war with China.

They are showing him and the world that they Haz Germ Warfare.

Welcome to the new World War folks.

Good luck

Uhhhh really?

China aside, the US did this with the native peoples here. I'd say the Spanish did but they took longer to figure it out.

http://www.history.com/news/colonists-​native-americans-smallpox-blankets

The only documented case of this was done by the Brits and there's no evidence it worked.

Which is not to say what the US did to natives was anything short of systematic genocide.


something like 2/3 the original immigrants went native

as usual it was the johnny-come-latelys that screwed things up
 
2020-05-22 5:11:00 PM  
1 vote:

Geotpf: Slightly unrelated to the article (but koder's mention of Vitamin D reminded me of it), but here's a thought that has been bouncing around my head:

Various news stories have said the following things separately.

1. Vitamin D seems to kill the virus or make it harder to get sick in the first place.
2. People with darker skin get less Vitamin D from the sun.
3. African Americans seem to die or get seriously ill from the virus more than white people.

But nobody seems to have added 1 + 2 + 3 together and made the seemingly obvious conclusion that a likely reason for higher death counts for African Americans isn't somehow racism (as most news stories pointing out #3 imply), but the fact that they have darker skin and therefore less Vitamin D and therefore are genetically more likely to be more susceptible to bad outcomes from the virus.  And it's not somehow "racist" to point out one ethnic group gets a particular disease more than other; for African Americans, they get sickle cell disorder more often, for instance.


The issue in the US is that African-Americans tens to live in areas with less food security, less availability of medicine and more systemic environmental racism. That leads to more underlying health conditions like diabetes. Which in turn lead to more deaths. While there may be some sort of Vitamin D issue, the impact severity is lot more likely explained through socioeconomic factors rather than biochemical ones.
 
2020-05-22 5:10:43 PM  
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dogsafark: thanks, China/Harvard/Chinese researchers seeded around the US stealing sensitive information


This is sensitive information?  Information that shouldn't be shared... why now?

Im in this for the species, jerk, not someone's self gratification of being published first or some country to get it first, or some corporation not sharing knowledge knowledge to patent a breakthrough and price It into 'bankruptcy or die'.

Virrii know no borders, no races, doesn't care about XX or XY, how large your bank account is,  Then again. Really neither should humanity. But, of course, we still seem to fall for the pitfalls of money, power, influence.  It would really be nice if humanity would grow out of that.

But, humans. Ya know? Selfish, ignorant, flawed animals. But what do i know? Im just a bitter, selfish, ignorant, flawed animal.
 
2020-05-22 5:08:14 PM  
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foo monkey: Nadie_AZ: EyeHaveRisen: Look folks,   Trumpy started a trade and tax war with China.

They are showing him and the world that they Haz Germ Warfare.

Welcome to the new World War folks.

Good luck

Uhhhh really?

China aside, the US did this with the native peoples here. I'd say the Spanish did but they took longer to figure it out.

http://www.history.com/news/colonists-​native-americans-smallpox-blankets

The only documented case of this was done by the Brits and there's no evidence it worked.


Which is not to say what the US did to natives was anything short of systematic genocide.
 
2020-05-22 4:57:55 PM  
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EyeHaveRisen: Look folks,   Trumpy started a trade and tax war with China.

They are showing him and the world that they Haz Germ Warfare.

Welcome to the new World War folks.

Good luck


A post like this would be deleted on twitter as misleading.
 
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