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2020-05-22 9:40:34 AM  
The author is not wrong.
 
2020-05-22 9:49:54 AM  
Apes acting like apes.
 
2020-05-22 10:13:29 AM  
Spot on.  We Americans are a lazy entitled breed. Some can rise above that; most don't.
 
2020-05-22 10:15:37 AM  
When I was younger, I thought that the foolish choices made by characters in monster movies was just bad writing in order to advance the plot.  The last few years has revealed it to be the terrifying truth of human nature.
 
2020-05-22 11:06:47 AM  
It's still a $1000 fine for violating social distancing around here. I'm kinda surprised America didn't see this as a chance to make some bank.
 
2020-05-22 11:07:26 AM  

TaDu: When I was younger, I thought that the foolish choices made by characters in monster movies was just bad writing in order to advance the plot.  The last few years has revealed it to be the terrifying truth of human nature.


Why do you think we show them to teens?  They are not yet old enough to realize the terrible, horrible truth.  That is why adults avoid them; they are just too depressing.

"Yes.  That is Bob.  And Marlene.  And I empathize with the guy staring at them hiding behind the chain-saw curtain."

On a similar vein, I really want that commercial turned into an actual movie.
 
2020-05-22 11:28:17 AM  
Yeah. Exactly. What are we gonna do?

Cheers to the freakin weekend.

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2020-05-22 11:36:23 AM  
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2020-05-22 11:37:17 AM  
America is always moving forward... into the past.
 
2020-05-22 11:39:14 AM  
The USA has a lot of money in the hands of a few people at the top. Other than that, it's a third world country.
 
2020-05-22 11:39:20 AM  

This About That: Apes acting like apes.


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2020-05-22 11:39:42 AM  
This is the greatest demonstration of American Exceptionalism in my lifetime, and it is terrifying and depressing.
 
2020-05-22 11:39:49 AM  
Look, we as a culture have decided to commit national suicide.  It's best to just hand out the flavor-aid and wait to pick up the pieces.
 
2020-05-22 11:39:51 AM  
I remember when the metric system was tried here in the U.S.of A. People biatched how hard it was. Too foreign for ' Murica! Apes is the right description.
 
2020-05-22 11:40:51 AM  
Of course we can't do that! Large scale public transportation and untethering health care from employers would remove barriers for black and brown people, and the stockholders who run this country wouldn't want that!
 
2020-05-22 11:41:01 AM  
archer metric system
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2020-05-22 11:41:03 AM  
Back during the cold war, one common epithet leveled at the Soviet Union was 'Upper Volta with Rockets' - a military superpower but otherwise a third rate, third world country slowly shambling towards collapse.
That's how I'm beginning to see the United States. It has more markers in common with developing nations than developed ones.
 
2020-05-22 11:41:25 AM  
Sure, the author's not wrong, but restating the obvious doesn't lend insight.

Also, the "Three Vegetarian Chefs Tell Us How They'd Eat Groot" article kind of undermined the whole "WE'RE SERIOUS, DAMN IT!" vibe for which they were trying.
 
2020-05-22 11:41:46 AM  
Well, thinking does take effort. That's the crux of the issue.
 
2020-05-22 11:43:04 AM  
That's what repeating 'we're the best at everything' over and over gets you: people who believe it unconditionally, despite all evidence to the contrary.

No healthcare? Well, I guess that's the best 'cause we're the best.

Too poor to live despite working multiple jobs? Well, I guess that's the best 'cause we're the best.

Dying because masks are just too darn hard for some folks? Well, I guess that's the best 'cause we're the best.
 
2020-05-22 11:43:04 AM  
Now if the world could take away the nukes and the almighty dollar, we wouldnt give a fark what Murica does or doesnt do and the world will be better for it until we can figure out our shiat and purge the trumpers, kkk and neo-nazis from the mortal realm like they should have been a long time ago.
 
2020-05-22 11:44:15 AM  
There will never be another "greatest generation." They were it.
 
2020-05-22 11:44:16 AM  
Just wait for the fireworks when the NFL has to cancel the season...
 
2020-05-22 11:44:30 AM  
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2020-05-22 11:44:58 AM  
I need to watch or read some stuff on the fall of the British Empire. It happened pretty fast, actually. Are we gonna beat that?
 
2020-05-22 11:45:31 AM  
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2020-05-22 11:46:28 AM  

TaDu: When I was younger, I thought that the foolish choices made by characters in monster movies was just bad writing in order to advance the plot.  The last few years has revealed it to be the terrifying truth of human nature.


For years, I felt that the mayor in Jaws was the most unrealistic character in the whole movie. I thought he was written with almost buffoonish bureaucratic stupidity.

Today, I find him to be the most accurately portrayed character in the film.
 
2020-05-22 11:46:41 AM  

Majin_Buu: Well, thinking does take effort. That's the crux of the issue.


It's not just the unheeding, but the deliberately misleading that contribute to the problem. If it was just a matter of educating the ignorant, we'd be fine.

But, thanks to good ol' American anti-intellectualism, we have a segment of our population that's actively working against educating the ignorant. They're the ones that defund education, spread misinformation in media, and manufacture conspiracy theories & fallacious statements to pass around via multiple networks of like-minded bad actors.

There's a reason Trump backs hydroxychloroquine - because some asshole told him it was a good idea, influenced others to buy millions of useless doses, and continue to agitate for it even against other, arguably more successful treatments. There's a reason thousands of bots on Twitter have managed to push the idea that "cowards wear masks" while "the brave have parties & get haircuts from noble small business owners willing to defy the 'deep state' by opening places at which COVID-19 is now a goddamned door prize."

You're not just fighting the stupid. You're fighting evil, too.
 
2020-05-22 11:46:46 AM  

Jack Sabbath: Spot on.  We Americans are a lazy entitled breed. Some can rise above that; most don't.


More could rise above if the ones who refused to would stop stomping on them.

Too many bright, capable people are foiled again and again by a Lumbergh or a Karen whom can't stand that you might know more, might work harder, or are just different than they are, and they demand respect they haven't earned.
 
2020-05-22 11:47:01 AM  
America is a shiathole country.
 
2020-05-22 11:47:35 AM  
Another navel-gazing defeatist puff piece that adds no insight or possible solutions. But hey, it got to say 'F*ck it" 50 times so that's pretty cool.
 
2020-05-22 11:48:52 AM  
One thing I do have to say, while we are rushing to be dumb we're hardly alone.

Belgium is literally a farkin horror show it's #2 in the world for per capita deaths... so they're sending the kids back to school
 
2020-05-22 11:49:13 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: It's still a $1000 fine for violating social distancing around here. I'm kinda surprised America didn't see this as a chance to make some bank.


We don't like to fine white people or wealthy people.
 
2020-05-22 11:50:06 AM  

TaDu: When I was younger, I thought that the foolish choices made by characters in monster movies was just bad writing in order to advance the plot.  The last few years has revealed it to be the terrifying truth of human nature.


Currently re-watching the Walking Dead. I gave up on it back in the day because I got tired of literally everyone on the show being unrepentant murderous dickbags. Seemed unlikely to me that absolutely everyone would turn into a monster. But now I'm older and more cynical. And in light of the recent behavior during this administration and the pandemic I realize that, at least in the United States, nearly everyone absolutely would degenerate into animals if society collapsed and eat anyone who didn't.

COVID-19: Making The Walking Dead watchable again.
 
2020-05-22 11:50:09 AM  
we were right to reject the metric system. that shiat is for science labs, not weather reports or highways
 
2020-05-22 11:50:34 AM  
Well yea, we're riding this out through at least January 20, 2021 without any kind of effective federal response, and probably longer if the Republicans maintain a senate majority, so "fark it" is pretty much the only option left.
 
2020-05-22 11:51:38 AM  
I've been assured by our public education system that the metric system is for Europeans and homos.
 
2020-05-22 11:53:39 AM  

Esroc: TaDu: When I was younger, I thought that the foolish choices made by characters in monster movies was just bad writing in order to advance the plot.  The last few years has revealed it to be the terrifying truth of human nature.

Currently re-watching the Walking Dead. I gave up on it back in the day because I got tired of literally everyone on the show being unrepentant murderous dickbags. Seemed unlikely to me that absolutely everyone would turn into a monster. But now I'm older and more cynical. And in light of the recent behavior during this administration and the pandemic I realize that, at least in the United States, nearly everyone absolutely would degenerate into animals if society collapsed and eat anyone who didn't.

COVID-19: Making The Walking Dead watchable again.


Walking Dead is a good analogy.  Some of us are in Alexandria while some of us are whistling while tearing down defenses and murdering people.  I guess wheezing, not whistling.
 
2020-05-22 11:56:43 AM  

BigKaboom: I remember when the metric system was tried here in the U.S.of A. People biatched how hard it was. Too foreign for ' Murica! Apes is the right description.


I remember when that stubbornness caused us to crash a mars rover. They actually teach that in school instead of teaching the metric system.
 
2020-05-22 11:57:09 AM  
Unions, environmentalism, anti-fascism, etc.  We still have to fight for all the gains previous generations made.
 
2020-05-22 11:58:51 AM  

SpecialSnowFlake: That's what repeating 'we're the best at everything' over and over gets you: people who believe it unconditionally, despite all evidence to the contrary.

No healthcare? Well, I guess that's the best 'cause we're the best.

Too poor to live despite working multiple jobs? Well, I guess that's the best 'cause we're the best.

Dying because masks are just too darn hard for some folks? Well, I guess that's the best 'cause we're the best.



Easy -- If you just keep saying that you're #1, then there is no need for introspection or striving for improvement, ever.
 
2020-05-22 11:59:34 AM  

BigKaboom: I remember when the metric system was tried here in the U.S.of A. People biatched how hard it was. Too foreign for ' Murica! Apes is the right description.



There's no real reason to use the metric system, and in some ways, it's worse.  Feet are better than meters, and Fahrenheit is better than Celsius for the weather.  And this may come as a surprise to Europe, but we do use metric for science, anyway.

Calling people apes (which is technically right, but I doubt your intent was to technically right, or else you would have called everyone apes) just because they don't want to have to re-calibrate their intuition for every measurement they make in everyday life is a bit much.

Something as fundamental to the way we think as our measurement system is not easy to change once you're an adult.  It requires far more adjustment than metric system proponents will admit, and there's no reason to force that on millions of people who are getting along just fine already.
 
2020-05-22 12:00:40 PM  
FTA: When the going gets tough, we say, "Fark it."

Well, he's not wrong, but not completely accurate. The last three-plus years has been more like: When the going gets tough, we say, "Hold my beer," with a dash of "Fark you, I won't do what you tell me!"
 
2020-05-22 12:02:01 PM  
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This should replace the Star Spangled Banner as the national anthem.
 
2020-05-22 12:02:18 PM  

NetOwl: BigKaboom: I remember when the metric system was tried here in the U.S.of A. People biatched how hard it was. Too foreign for ' Murica! Apes is the right description.


There's no real reason to use the metric system, and in some ways, it's worse.  Feet are better than meters, and Fahrenheit is better than Celsius for the weather.  And this may come as a surprise to Europe, but we do use metric for science, anyway.

Calling people apes (which is technically right, but I doubt your intent was to technically right, or else you would have called everyone apes) just because they don't want to have to re-calibrate their intuition for every measurement they make in everyday life is a bit much.

Something as fundamental to the way we think as our measurement system is not easy to change once you're an adult.  It requires far more adjustment than metric system proponents will admit, and there's no reason to force that on millions of people who are getting along just fine already.


It's basic math. Anyone who can calculate tips shouldn't have any issues with approximating conversions.
 
2020-05-22 12:03:28 PM  

Sophont: Jack Sabbath: Spot on.  We Americans are a lazy entitled breed. Some can rise above that; most don't.

More could rise above if the ones who refused to would stop stomping on them.

Too many bright, capable people are foiled again and again by a Lumbergh or a Karen whom can't stand that you might know more, might work harder, or are just different than they are, and they demand respect they haven't earned.


I never thought "foolish evil" would ever be a character alignment, but given how often people use WIZ as a dump stat, I am starting to understand why it honeslty should be, bravery so often walking a fine line with foolishness.
 
2020-05-22 12:04:39 PM  
 
2020-05-22 12:06:25 PM  

NetOwl: is not easy to change once you're an adult


Once again, the implied admission that Canadians (and Aussies, etc) are just inherently smarter than us.

Menlo Park, Kitty Hawk, Manhattan Project, Transistors/ICs, and Apollo.  It was a damned good run people, but reversion to the mean gets to you eventually.
 
2020-05-22 12:06:36 PM  

Riothamus: NetOwl: BigKaboom: I remember when the metric system was tried here in the U.S.of A. People biatched how hard it was. Too foreign for ' Murica! Apes is the right description.


There's no real reason to use the metric system, and in some ways, it's worse.  Feet are better than meters, and Fahrenheit is better than Celsius for the weather.  And this may come as a surprise to Europe, but we do use metric for science, anyway.

Calling people apes (which is technically right, but I doubt your intent was to technically right, or else you would have called everyone apes) just because they don't want to have to re-calibrate their intuition for every measurement they make in everyday life is a bit much.

Something as fundamental to the way we think as our measurement system is not easy to change once you're an adult.  It requires far more adjustment than metric system proponents will admit, and there's no reason to force that on millions of people who are getting along just fine already.

It's basic math. Anyone who can calculate tips shouldn't have any issues with approximating conversions.


The people fighting the metric system don't tip.
 
2020-05-22 12:06:38 PM  
The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets forty rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it.
 
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