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(Reuters)   Beijing may (officially) base security agencies in Hong Kong as part of new laws   (reuters.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Hong Kong, HONG KONG, Police, People's Republic of China, national security laws, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, democracy activists, fears of direct law enforcement  
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2 days ago  
Hong Kong has long enjoyed freedoms mainlanders could only dream of. I figure the great firewall of China is about to swallow up HK, and their ability to freely exchange information is about to disappear - along with quite a few people Beijing has marked for the crime of "Disturbing civil harmony".
 
2 days ago  
That'll be great for tourism.
 
2 days ago  
How do you say "I've altered the deal.  Pray I do not alter it further." in Mandarin?
 
2 days ago  
Double roe seben?
 
2 days ago  
As is their right, British Hong Kong was an occupied land.
 
2 days ago  
So they just put signs out then?
 
2 days ago  
Every country that wants to expand right now knows that the USA is out of the way. Taiwan might be right around the corner. And Russia is going in to Ukraine.

These are my opinions anyhow.
 
2 days ago  

AuralArgument: As is their right, British Hong Kong was an occupied land.


In 1996 it was.  It hasn't been in a quarter century.  The only thing that has changed is beijungs decision to come down hard on human rights.  This is a sad moment for human rights and humanity in general.
 
2 days ago  
Puts the lie to the rightwing idea that armed societies are more protected from hostile takeover. The protests have been anything than peaceful, with violent clashes with Molotov cocktails and other weapons, going on for months. Apparently, an armed, organized populace is no obstacle to Beijing moving in and imposing authoritarianism.

If Molotov cocktails didn't deter Beijing, bullets wouldn't either.
 
2 days ago  

AuralArgument: As is their right, British Hong Kong was an occupied land.


Woo lads, what a spicy take. Watch out for this one.
 
2 days ago  

fireclown: AuralArgument: As is their right, British Hong Kong was an occupied land.

In 1996 it was.  It hasn't been in a quarter century.  The only thing that has changed is beijungs decision to come down hard on human rights.  This is a sad moment for human rights and humanity in general.


Same as it ever was.
 
2 days ago  
I see they're taking advantage of the pandemic, they know most countries won't accept immigrants or refugees at the moment.
 
2 days ago  

Corn_Fed: Puts the lie to the rightwing idea that armed societies are more protected from hostile takeover. The protests have been anything than peaceful, with violent clashes with Molotov cocktails and other weapons, going on for months. Apparently, an armed, organized populace is no obstacle to Beijing moving in and imposing authoritarianism.

If Molotov cocktails didn't deter Beijing, bullets wouldn't either.


Yes, because riots and mob violence during riots is exactly the same as a people who are actively engaging in armed resistance with the goal of actually defeating an enemy force.

Riots and violent protests with mob violence are fundamentally different.

Suppose those same people had organized and actively taken steps to actually disrupt and resist the forces in the country. You wouldn't see people out on the street in a mob. You'd be hearing about hit and run attacks, improvised explosions, attacks on government buildings and/or chinese official offices, etc.

Are you really that daft to believe that the two are even remotely equivalent? Or are you just trying to make a snarky comment to stick it to the "right wing"?
 
2 days ago  

AuralArgument: As is their right, British Hong Kong was an occupied land.


Anywhere humans hang out is technically ' occupied ' land.
China agreed 1 country 2 systems would remain in place until 2047, will they live up to their word or lose face?
 
2 days ago  
When do they kick out all the Indonesian and Philippino housekeepers?
 
2 days ago  

AuralArgument: As is their right, British Hong Kong was an occupied land.


Originally it was occupied then it was leased fo 99 years. The lease ran out in  1997(?) and since then they have been negotiating how autonomous Hong Kong will be, what rights they will enjoy, etc.
 
2 days ago  

AuralArgument: As is their right, British Hong Kong was an occupied land.


Either you have overlords in Beijing or you were in a coma the Sino British treaty in 1997.

The CCP breaks its promises to HK because it breaks promises to everyone.
No special financial status for HK.
No special rules for Chinese stocks.
Boycott all finished goods from China.
Sanction CCP officials involved in squelching representative government and imprisoning journalists.
Rinse, wash, repeat.
 
2 days ago  

Corn_Fed: Puts the lie to the rightwing idea that armed societies are more protected from hostile takeover. The protests have been anything than peaceful, with violent clashes with Molotov cocktails and other weapons, going on for months. Apparently, an armed, organized populace is no obstacle to Beijing moving in and imposing authoritarianism.

If Molotov cocktails didn't deter Beijing, bullets wouldn't either.


If an armed society was a polite society people with firearms wouldn't be shooting other people for being asked to wear a mask as a courtesy to other customers and the staff.
 
2 days ago  

Harry Freakstorm: How do you say "I've altered the deal.  Pray I do not alter it further." in Mandarin?


我改变了这笔交易。祈祷我不要再改变它。
 
2 days ago  
Should've given Hong Kong to Taiwan. Fark Beijing.
 
2 days ago  
Say what you will about China's communist party and its values; but they play a very tight long game.
 
1 day ago  
Get off your horse that is not as high as you imagine it.


Lease was signed and public info for 100 years already.
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China's M.O./behavioral norms are also a matter of public knowledge, not a tightly kept secret we just foudn out yesterday.
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Nothing here should surprise anyone, this is all 100% perfectly predicable. Anyone that speaks as if that were not the obvious known to expect outcome, is either a lying sack of human chit, or ignorant as fook.

You don't have to like or agree with it, but the fook stop speaking as if this was a surprise or somehow so unexpected.
To imagine a tiny if densely packed island of people, to stand up to a billion Chinese, is the height of hubris or blissful ignorance. Get your head out already.
 
1 day ago  

PvtStash: You don't have to like or agree with it, but the fook stop speaking as if this was a surprise or somehow so unexpected.


I'm sure you can either point out where anyone here is acting terribly surprised about this, or stop savaging that poor Strawman there, Mr. Party Line.

PvtStash: To imagine a tiny if densely packed island of people, to stand up to a billion Chinese, is the height of hubris or blissful ignorance. Get your head out already.


Between message and execution, this looks to be straight out of the Party playbook.

You guys should really steer clear of idioms, they're notoriously tough to master, and they betray you every time.
 
1 day ago  
I feel really bad for the people of Hong Kong.  They are about to lose everything that love about being pretty much a free country.

And that really REALLY sucks.

I mean, I really fell badly for them.

Hope it doesn't happen to us next.
 
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