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(Detroit Free Press)   First it was Flu Klux Klan rallies at the Capitol, then the dams breaking in Midland, now a live Civil War cannonball found at a recycling center in West Michigan. Subby is going to hole up in Detroit for his own safety   (freep.com) divider line
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2020-05-22 4:24:22 PM  
26 votes:
I had absolutely no idea that anyone ever made explosive cannon balls.
 
2020-05-22 4:34:42 PM  
23 votes:

rebelyell2006: Skeleton Man: I had absolutely no idea that anyone ever made explosive cannon balls.

I think your mind would be completely blown if you ever picked up a history book on Civil War artillery.


A "cannonball" is solid shot without an explosive charge.

This item would be called "spherical case," a type of shell.
 
2020-05-22 4:29:37 PM  
10 votes:

Skeleton Man: I had absolutely no idea that anyone ever made explosive cannon balls.


I think your mind would be completely blown if you ever picked up a history book on Civil War artillery.
 
2020-05-22 5:23:33 PM  
8 votes:
Uh, that is not a cannonball. It is a shell, maybe for a mortar, but cannonballs do not explode. They are solid shot.

And on an historically interested note, there are places in the U.S. and Europe where you can still see cannonballs embedded in walls. I know there is a cannonball still embedded in the wall of a tavern or inn down in Vicksburg (I think. It has been a while since I read about it) and a British one longed in a building up in Connecticut somewhere. One of my favorites is from Castle Nuovo in Spain. It has a cannonball lodged in a bronze door. And while I do not think it is there any more, the Mythbuster team managed to lodge a cannonball into someone's home out in California. The one in the below image is in Weymouth, from the English Civil War.

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2020-05-22 4:31:36 PM  
7 votes:
I'm extremely skeptical that after 155 years the powder would still be able to detonate.
 
2020-05-22 4:36:07 PM  
6 votes:
If you have to "hole up" in Detroit you have greater problems than a civil war cannonball.
 
2020-05-22 3:13:58 PM  
6 votes:
hole up in Detroit for his own safety

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2020-05-22 5:06:10 PM  
3 votes:

DanInKansas: I'm extremely skeptical that after 155 years the powder would still be able to detonate.


Considering how may WWI and II bombs are still considered dangerous today, I wouldn't risk it.
 
2020-05-22 4:48:02 PM  
3 votes:

BigNumber12: rebelyell2006: Skeleton Man: I had absolutely no idea that anyone ever made explosive cannon balls.

I think your mind would be completely blown if you ever picked up a history book on Civil War artillery.

A "cannonball" is solid shot without an explosive charge.

This item would be called "spherical case," a type of shell.


Precisely, but people not knowing any better about older smoothbore artillery would not tell the difference between solid shot and case shot.
 
2020-05-22 4:38:41 PM  
3 votes:

DanInKansas: I'm extremely skeptical that after 155 years the powder would still be able to detonate.


You might be surprised. It depends on a lot of factors. You REALLY don't want a 6 pound cannonball going off in your face.

/ 6's and 12's tended to be field artillery, whilst 20's and higher tended to be installed permanently.
 
2020-05-22 8:22:57 PM  
2 votes:
....Or you could go to Fort Pulaski, GA, the first fortress to be taken down by rifled artillery"

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That picture doesn't do reality justice:  there are at least a couple dozen cannonballs and shells buried in that wall.
 
2020-05-22 5:00:38 PM  
2 votes:
Because solid shot, case shot, and shell were all round and attached to a wooden sabot and powder bag for 6 and 12 pound smoothbore field pieces (gun, howitzer, gun-howitzer, mountain howitzer, etc etc).  The ammunition was typically color-coded, but otherwise they were large iron balls.
 
2020-05-22 4:55:15 PM  
2 votes:

rebelyell2006: BigNumber12: rebelyell2006: Skeleton Man: I had absolutely no idea that anyone ever made explosive cannon balls.

I think your mind would be completely blown if you ever picked up a history book on Civil War artillery.

A "cannonball" is solid shot without an explosive charge.

This item would be called "spherical case," a type of shell.

Precisely, but people not knowing any better about older smoothbore artillery would not tell the difference between solid shot and case shot.


Where's Ditty when we need him?
 
2020-05-22 4:54:53 PM  
2 votes:

rebelyell2006: Skeleton Man: I had absolutely no idea that anyone ever made explosive cannon balls.

I think your mind would be completely blown if you ever picked up a history book on Civil War artillery.


They had explosive cannonballs even further back. It wasn't a new thing in the Civil War, though they'd discovered TNT by then, so it used more boomboom than your average black powder charge.

Also, given the age, I'd be curious to see whether the explosive charge in the ball was still viable or if it had decomposed into an inert state.
 
2020-05-22 4:42:05 PM  
2 votes:
The thing has had 160 years to detonate. Probably ain't gonna happen now.
 
2020-05-22 4:36:42 PM  
2 votes:
Canada, and some great strip clubs, are right across the river
 
2020-05-23 2:21:29 PM  
1 vote:

Fireproof: Mock26: Uh, that is not a cannonball. It is a shell, maybe for a mortar, but cannonballs do not explode. They are solid shot.

And on an historically interested note, there are places in the U.S. and Europe where you can still see cannonballs embedded in walls. I know there is a cannonball still embedded in the wall of a tavern or inn down in Vicksburg (I think. It has been a while since I read about it) and a British one longed in a building up in Connecticut somewhere. One of my favorites is from Castle Nuovo in Spain. It has a cannonball lodged in a bronze door. And while I do not think it is there any more, the Mythbuster team managed to lodge a cannonball into someone's home out in California. The one in the below image is in Weymouth, from the English Civil War.

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I wanna say the Mythbusters one didn't get embedded in- screw it, let's check Wikipedia:

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Close enough. I did not think it had  embedded in anything, but I could not pass up the chance to reference the incident, which is still one of my favorite segments from Mythbusters.
 
2020-05-23 9:57:35 AM  
1 vote:

DanInKansas: I'm extremely skeptical that after 155 years the powder would still be able to detonate.


Old powder and explosive concoctions are indeed usually inert after anything approaching that time period.  Usually.  But there are some oddball reactions that can occur leaving you with some really nasty shiat.  Even discounting any explosions, what's left in there can be toxic as hell.  They're best left alone or alerted to your local ordinance-safing types, just because they won't go boom doesn't mean they're harmless at all.
 
2020-05-22 6:57:41 PM  
1 vote:
Those things can go off if you mess with them. I imagine sealing the the hole for the detonator was important to keep it from going off in the barrel. Therefore no water gets in to wreck the powder.

From 2015
 
2020-05-22 5:56:05 PM  
1 vote:
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2020-05-22 5:31:51 PM  
1 vote:

BigNumber12: rebelyell2006: Skeleton Man: I had absolutely no idea that anyone ever made explosive cannon balls.

I think your mind would be completely blown if you ever picked up a history book on Civil War artillery.

A "cannonball" is solid shot without an explosive charge.

This item would be called "spherical case," a type of shell.


Do they store them in a clip?
 
2020-05-22 5:09:21 PM  
1 vote:

Fireproof: DanInKansas: I'm extremely skeptical that after 155 years the powder would still be able to detonate.

Considering how may WWI and II bombs are still considered dangerous today, I wouldn't risk it.


World War I they used variations of TNT, which was a very stable explosive.  Black powder from the Civil War in a poorly-sealed cast iron casing would not survive as well.  Just getting it wet would take care of it.
 
2020-05-22 5:04:49 PM  
1 vote:

DanInKansas: I'm extremely skeptical that after 155 years the powder would still be able to detonate.


155 years burried in the ground is a different story than 155 years in a basement. Regular ammo is good for 60+ years before the primers start failing.
 
2020-05-22 4:44:01 PM  
1 vote:

iamskibibitz: The thing has had 160 years to detonate. Probably ain't gonna happen now.


Ok, YOU go out and start juggling with a few. You (or your next of kin) let me know how it goes.
 
2020-05-22 4:41:04 PM  
1 vote:

emersonbiggins: Skeleton Man: I had absolutely no idea that anyone ever made explosive cannon balls.

They're the ones with fuses sticking out, duh.

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But without "bomb" written on the side, because if it did it would be a bomb.
 
2020-05-22 4:29:45 PM  
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