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(The New York Times)   Now that Tara Reade can't prove that she has a college degree, criminal cases where she served as an expert witness on domestic violence could be overturned   (nytimes.com) divider line
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2020-05-22 12:12:27 AM  
I'm starting to have some doubts about her.
 
2020-05-22 12:37:40 AM  
jfc
 
2020-05-22 12:48:26 AM  
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2020-05-22 12:54:42 AM  
Pretty soon we are gonna find out that Tara Reid doesn't actually exist.
 
2020-05-22 1:02:38 AM  

dildo tontine: Pretty soon we are gonna find out that Tara Reid doesn't actually exist.


It's Rudy Giuliani in drag again.
 
2020-05-22 1:03:41 AM  
Is this getting dumber and dumberer?

Or is it just me?

/I taste toast!
 
2020-05-22 1:13:47 AM  

dildo tontine: Pretty soon we are gonna find out that Tara Reid doesn't actually exist.


As well as Tara Reade.
 
2020-05-22 1:52:30 AM  
Wait a second...

Half a college degree, a few handshakes and promises; constitutes a f*cking expert?
Are. You. F*cking. Sh*tting. ME!!
That's what the prosecution and judge considers an expert? Jebus f*ck!
The jury has no idea. They're just listening to some dumb-f*ck "Expert" witness.

This has massive repercussions if it's actually true.
Way beyond her cases.
Experts are supposed to be experts!
Who the f*ck vets these people?
The Republicans?

/I'm simmering down, pardon the all CAP's!!
//Not angry, just venting.
///Gaah!!
 
2020-05-22 2:18:57 AM  
So she graduated summa fart laude from Trump University?
 
2020-05-22 2:19:22 AM  

dildo tontine: Pretty soon we are gonna find out that Tara Reid doesn't actually exist.


I haven't seen any of the Sharknado movies so I can't confirm it.
 
2020-05-22 2:24:55 AM  
She'll lie about you sexually assaulting her for $1,000. Pence can't watch tho, unless he pays $100.
 
2020-05-22 2:33:35 AM  

fusillade762: dildo tontine: Pretty soon we are gonna find out that Tara Reid doesn't actually exist.

I haven't seen any of the Sharknado movies so I can't confirm it.


I saw American Pie, so I can confirm that the Russian exchange student was unusually hot for a high school girl.

Wait, what were we talking about?
 
2020-05-22 2:38:20 AM  

fusillade762: dildo tontine: Pretty soon we are gonna find out that Tara Reid doesn't actually exist.

I haven't seen any of the Sharknado movies so I can't confirm it.


I saw the Rifftrax live versions of the Sharknado movies. I can confirm that watching Tara Reid trying to act is like watching a dog eating peanut butter.
 
2020-05-22 2:56:31 AM  
Man, the irony here.

Biden 2020: "You can't believe a word she says about me. Why, she's gone so far as to exaggerate her academic credentials!"

Biden, 1987:

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/22/us​/​biden-admits-errors-and-criticizes-lat​est-report.html

Mr Biden, whose Presidential campaign has been shaken by news reports about his unattributed use of speeches from other politicians and a plagiarism incident while he was in law school, said in The Times interview that he was ''frustrated'' and ''angry as hell'"

...

In his statement today, Mr. Biden, who attended the Syracuse College of Law and graduated 76th in a class of 85, acknowledged: ''I did not graduate in the top half of my class at law school and my recollection of this was inacurate.''

As for receiving three degrees, Mr. Biden said: ''I graduated from the University of Delaware with a double major in history and political science. My reference to degrees at the Claremont event was intended to refer to these majors - I said 'three' and should have said 'two.' '' Mr. Biden received a single B.A. in history and political science.

Mr. Biden said of his claim that he went to school on full academic scholarship: ''My recollection is - and I'd have to confirm this - but I don't recall paying any money to go to law school.'' Newsweek said Mr. Biden had gone to Syracuse ''on half scholarship based on financial need.'

Mr. Biden acknowledged that in the testy exchange in New Hampshire, he had lost his temper. ''I exaggerate when I'm angry,'' Mr. Biden said ...
 
2020-05-22 2:58:38 AM  
/yes but it's different, she was trying to personally profit while potentially damaging people's lives by pretending to be an expert, whereas Joe Biden was merely attempting to get himself elected President
 
2020-05-22 3:15:07 AM  

Redh8t: Wait a second...

Half a college degree, a few handshakes and promises; constitutes a f*cking expert?
Are. You. F*cking. Sh*tting. ME!!
That's what the prosecution and judge considers an expert? Jebus f*ck!
The jury has no idea. They're just listening to some dumb-f*ck "Expert" witness.

This has massive repercussions if it's actually true.
Way beyond her cases.
Experts are supposed to be experts!
Who the f*ck vets these people?
The Republicans?

/I'm simmering down, pardon the all CAP's!!
//Not angry, just venting.
///Gaah!!


I had a REALLY weird career path that ended up with my being a naval analyst - a job with a 98% PhD rate at my workplace - and I didn't have a college degree. But I also wouldn't have had the temerity to pass myself off as an expert in the legal sense.

/Have a Master's Degree now. PhD isn't out of the question either.
 
2020-05-22 3:19:22 AM  

Chariset: pkjun: /yes but it's different, she was trying to personally profit while potentially damaging people's lives by pretending to be an expert, whereas Joe Biden was merely attempting to get himself elected President

You're an idiot.


Better not say that to Joe Biden or he'll get angry and make up some academic credentials, and then how will you be able to believe anything he says?
 
2020-05-22 3:37:28 AM  

pkjun: Chariset: pkjun: /yes but it's different, she was trying to personally profit while potentially damaging people's lives by pretending to be an expert, whereas Joe Biden was merely attempting to get himself elected President

You're an idiot.

Better not say that to Joe Biden or he'll get angry and make up some academic credentials, and then how will you be able to believe anything he says?


He could always get a degree from Trump University.
 
2020-05-22 3:44:56 AM  

pkjun: Man, the irony here.


Uh, nope.

pkjun: Better not say that to Joe Biden or he'll get angry


Trump's going to jail in the spring for real crimes. The guy you're batting for. It's going to be glorious.
 
2020-05-22 4:00:53 AM  

BadReligion: She'll lie about you sexually assaulting her for $1,000. Pence can't watch tho, unless he pays $100.


...I'm just gonna go find a cash machine.
 
2020-05-22 4:25:45 AM  

koder: Trump's going to jail in the spring for real crimes.


I certainly hope so, yes, if he doesn't pull a Julius Caesar and decide that he'd rather try to lead a coup than face corruption charges as a private citizen without the powers of office to shield him. But I don't see him as being smart enough to actually pull that off.

Anyway, if Trump wins it won't be because the Democrats inadequately smeared a woman who accused Joe Biden of going a step and a half farther than he goes all the time in public anyway, and a step less than Trump bragged about going on tape. If Trump wins, it'll probably be because the Republicans ratchet up the voter suppression that bit higher, bringing us that bit closer to a Herrenvolk minority-rule pseudo-democracy.
 
2020-05-22 5:41:50 AM  

pkjun: Man, the irony here.

Biden 2020: "You can't believe a word she says about me. Why, she's gone so far as to exaggerate her academic credentials!"

Biden, 1987:

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/22/us/​biden-admits-errors-and-criticizes-lat​est-report.html

Mr Biden, whose Presidential campaign has been shaken by news reports about his unattributed use of speeches from other politicians and a plagiarism incident while he was in law school, said in The Times interview that he was ''frustrated'' and ''angry as hell'"

...

In his statement today, Mr. Biden, who attended the Syracuse College of Law and graduated 76th in a class of 85, acknowledged: ''I did not graduate in the top half of my class at law school and my recollection of this was inacurate.''

As for receiving three degrees, Mr. Biden said: ''I graduated from the University of Delaware with a double major in history and political science. My reference to degrees at the Claremont event was intended to refer to these majors - I said 'three' and should have said 'two.' '' Mr. Biden received a single B.A. in history and political science.

Mr. Biden said of his claim that he went to school on full academic scholarship: ''My recollection is - and I'd have to confirm this - but I don't recall paying any money to go to law school.'' Newsweek said Mr. Biden had gone to Syracuse ''on half scholarship based on financial need.'

Mr. Biden acknowledged that in the testy exchange in New Hampshire, he had lost his temper. ''I exaggerate when I'm angry,'' Mr. Biden said ...


1987, eh?
 
2020-05-22 6:13:09 AM  
Honestly? All "expert" witnesses should probably have their qualifications vetted before they testify.
 
2020-05-22 6:25:50 AM  
She's going to make a tremendous Trump Administration Press Secretary in a few weeks.
 
2020-05-22 6:48:04 AM  
Good jorb.  The fact that you're a fraud and a liar may well mean that a lot of abusive assholes go free.  Think about that for a minute while you're accusing Joe Biden of harming women.
 
2020-05-22 6:52:51 AM  

pkjun: Chariset: pkjun: /yes but it's different, she was trying to personally profit while potentially damaging people's lives by pretending to be an expert, whereas Joe Biden was merely attempting to get himself elected President

You're an idiot.

Better not say that to Joe Biden or he'll get angry and make up some academic credentials, and then how will you be able to believe anything he says?



So you think 30 year old off-the-cuff statements from a Senator confusing double majors and other technicalities about degrees is the same as TR's history of what appears to be deliberate misrepresentation of almost ALL credentials, including even basic information like her name.

Whatever credibility you had here is now lost.
 
2020-05-22 6:56:38 AM  

pkjun: Man, the irony here.

Biden 2020: "You can't believe a word she says about me. Why, she's gone so far as to exaggerate her academic credentials!"

Biden, 1987:

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/09/22/us/​biden-admits-errors-and-criticizes-lat​est-report.html

Mr Biden, whose Presidential campaign has been shaken by news reports about his unattributed use of speeches from other politicians and a plagiarism incident while he was in law school, said in The Times interview that he was ''frustrated'' and ''angry as hell'"

...

In his statement today, Mr. Biden, who attended the Syracuse College of Law and graduated 76th in a class of 85, acknowledged: ''I did not graduate in the top half of my class at law school and my recollection of this was inacurate.''

As for receiving three degrees, Mr. Biden said: ''I graduated from the University of Delaware with a double major in history and political science. My reference to degrees at the Claremont event was intended to refer to these majors - I said 'three' and should have said 'two.' '' Mr. Biden received a single B.A. in history and political science.

Mr. Biden said of his claim that he went to school on full academic scholarship: ''My recollection is - and I'd have to confirm this - but I don't recall paying any money to go to law school.'' Newsweek said Mr. Biden had gone to Syracuse ''on half scholarship based on financial need.'

Mr. Biden acknowledged that in the testy exchange in New Hampshire, he had lost his temper. ''I exaggerate when I'm angry,'' Mr. Biden said ...


Take your Whataboutism and shove it.  Bernie lost, get over it.
 
2020-05-22 6:57:31 AM  

lordjupiter: pkjun: Chariset: pkjun: /yes but it's different, she was trying to personally profit while potentially damaging people's lives by pretending to be an expert, whereas Joe Biden was merely attempting to get himself elected President

You're an idiot.

Better not say that to Joe Biden or he'll get angry and make up some academic credentials, and then how will you be able to believe anything he says?


So you think 30 year old off-the-cuff statements from a Senator confusing double majors and other technicalities about degrees is the same as TR's history of what appears to be deliberate misrepresentation of almost ALL credentials, including even basic information like her name.

Whatever credibility you had here is now lost.


Joe did say he got arrested trying to meet with Mandela which was total BS
 
2020-05-22 6:59:10 AM  

fragMasterFlash: So she graduated summa fart laude from Trump University?


You mean sumo fart larde.
 
2020-05-22 6:59:48 AM  
What a farking train wreck this lunatic is. I'm enjoying seeing this Putin cock holster go up in flames.
 
2020-05-22 7:00:46 AM  

HawgWild: jfc


Ditto.
 
2020-05-22 7:02:23 AM  
When the ends justify the means there's no need for credentials.
 
2020-05-22 7:03:13 AM  
The central claim that she doesn't have a degree remains unproven and she has credible evidence that she does: http://www.montereycountyweekly​.com/bl​ogs/news_blog/convictions-could-be-cha​llenged-as-defense-attorneys-question-​tara-reade-s-credentials/article_89c8b​fcc-9bb2-11ea-826b-7776b2cd779e.html

But people really want to believe she's lying, so....
 
2020-05-22 7:04:25 AM  

lordjupiter: So you think 30 year old off-the-cuff statements from a Senator confusing double majors and other technicalities about degrees is the same as TR's history of what appears to be deliberate misrepresentation of almost ALL credentials, including even basic information like her name.

Whatever credibility you had here is now lost.


He claimed he was top of his law school class when he was near the bottom. That's far from a technicality.

Biden is a virtually pathological liar no matter how much people want to pretend otherwise.
 
2020-05-22 7:05:04 AM  

eiger: lordjupiter: So you think 30 year old off-the-cuff statements from a Senator confusing double majors and other technicalities about degrees is the same as TR's history of what appears to be deliberate misrepresentation of almost ALL credentials, including even basic information like her name.

Whatever credibility you had here is now lost.

He claimed he was top of his law school class when he was near the bottom. That's far from a technicality.

Biden is a virtually pathological liar no matter how much people want to pretend otherwise.


Lol, sure whatever
 
2020-05-22 7:06:36 AM  

pkjun: /yes but it's different, she was trying to personally profit while potentially damaging people's lives by pretending to be an expert, whereas Joe Biden was merely attempting to get himself elected President


Now do Trump.
 
2020-05-22 7:07:27 AM  
I BeLIeVE tArA REadE...

/Actually I believe Tara Reade is nuckin' futz
//In before the "But Dems are supposed to #believeallwomen right???" crowd arrives
///Don't believe Tara Reade, Diamond & Silk, Joni Ernst ...
 
2020-05-22 7:08:19 AM  

Redh8t: Wait a second...

Half a college degree, a few handshakes and promises; constitutes a f*cking expert?
Are. You. F*cking. Sh*tting. ME!!
That's what the prosecution and judge considers an expert? Jebus f*ck!
The jury has no idea. They're just listening to some dumb-f*ck "Expert" witness.

This has massive repercussions if it's actually true.
Way beyond her cases.
Experts are supposed to be experts!
Who the f*ck vets these people?
The Republicans?

/I'm simmering down, pardon the all CAP's!!
//Not angry, just venting.
///Gaah!!


you should watch making a murderer.  I'm kind of scared this shiat happens a lot more often than we're led to believe.
 
2020-05-22 7:09:22 AM  
First, I didn't read the article, so, if this is covered...oops.  In order to qualify as a witness, the witness is asked, on the stand and under oath, to recite their educational attainments and continuing training.  If she recounted some bogus educational attainments, she'd be committing perjury.  That her testimony may have lead to convictions is awful.  Some defense attorneys should be hanging their head in shame, as well, and potentially looking to call their insurance provider.  My question is did she actually provide bogus diplomas?  Certificates? How could this happen?
 
2020-05-22 7:09:45 AM  
If this is the best the GOP can come up with, I suspect the hair sniffing really is the worst Biden has done.
 
2020-05-22 7:09:49 AM  

iheartscotch: Honestly? All "expert" witnesses should probably have their qualifications vetted before they testify.


Honestly? Who the f*ck ever imagined that they WEREN'T??
 
2020-05-22 7:11:48 AM  

eiger: The central claim that she doesn't have a degree remains unproven and she has credible evidence that she does: http://www.montereycountyweekly.​com/blogs/news_blog/convictions-could-​be-challenged-as-defense-attorneys-que​stion-tara-reade-s-credentials/article​_89c8bfcc-9bb2-11ea-826b-7776b2cd779e.​html

But people really want to believe she's lying, so....


An unofficial transcript from a different university is not what I would call credible.
 
2020-05-22 7:11:54 AM  

FriarReb98: pkjun: /yes but it's different, she was trying to personally profit while potentially damaging people's lives by pretending to be an expert, whereas Joe Biden was merely attempting to get himself elected President

Now do Trump.


What does Trump have to do with any of this?
 
2020-05-22 7:11:58 AM  
It amazes me that she wasn't vetted before now.
 
2020-05-22 7:13:06 AM  

eiger: The central claim that she doesn't have a degree remains unproven and she has credible evidence that she does: http://www.montereycountyweekly.​com/blogs/news_blog/convictions-could-​be-challenged-as-defense-attorneys-que​stion-tara-reade-s-credentials/article​_89c8bfcc-9bb2-11ea-826b-7776b2cd779e.​html

But people really want to believe she's lying, so....


Thanks for finding this, it clears up a lot.  Sounds like a honest mix-up that has an reasonable explanation.
 
2020-05-22 7:13:20 AM  

eiger: The central claim that she doesn't have a degree remains unproven and she has credible evidence that she does: http://www.montereycountyweekly.​com/blogs/news_blog/convictions-could-​be-challenged-as-defense-attorneys-que​stion-tara-reade-s-credentials/article​_89c8bfcc-9bb2-11ea-826b-7776b2cd779e.​html

But people really want to believe she's lying, so....


when the university itself claims you have no degree from the institution, and the chancellor that you claimed setup a special provision for it says there was no special provision, and  hey both say you are not a professor there after you claim you do, that is pretty much proven.
 
2020-05-22 7:15:21 AM  

You Are All Sheep: Redh8t: Wait a second...

Half a college degree, a few handshakes and promises; constitutes a f*cking expert?
Are. You. F*cking. Sh*tting. ME!!
That's what the prosecution and judge considers an expert? Jebus f*ck!
The jury has no idea. They're just listening to some dumb-f*ck "Expert" witness.

This has massive repercussions if it's actually true.
Way beyond her cases.
Experts are supposed to be experts!
Who the f*ck vets these people?
The Republicans?

/I'm simmering down, pardon the all CAP's!!
//Not angry, just venting.
///Gaah!!

you should watch making a murderer.  I'm kind of scared this shiat happens a lot more often than we're led to believe.


Obviously it happens all the time. It's how the whole world operates, information asymmetry. Nobody can know or investigate everything for themselves and so we have to trust third parties to help us understand the world. So it is pretty clear that there's an opportunity for those third parties to nudge us in the direction they want us to think about things.
 
2020-05-22 7:15:29 AM  

Flappyhead: eiger: The central claim that she doesn't have a degree remains unproven and she has credible evidence that she does: http://www.montereycountyweekly.​com/blogs/news_blog/convictions-could-​be-challenged-as-defense-attorneys-que​stion-tara-reade-s-credentials/article​_89c8bfcc-9bb2-11ea-826b-7776b2cd779e.​html

But people really want to believe she's lying, so....

An unofficial transcript from a different university is not what I would call credible.


Getting an official transcript isn't difficult. I don't even know what an unofficial transcript is. Printed one off at Kinkos?
 
2020-05-22 7:16:26 AM  
I've been an expert witness, and I had to, under oath, state my credentials.

Ima guess she perjured herself.
 
2020-05-22 7:16:34 AM  

dildo tontine: Pretty soon we are gonna find out that Tara Reid doesn't actually exist.


That's only if the Daily Mail starts reporting about her.
 
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