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2020-05-22 12:05:11 AM  
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2020-05-22 2:27:34 AM  
He is wealthy. 

Wealth is evidence of success.

Success is evidence of genius.

He is a genius.

QED.
 
2020-05-22 3:21:25 AM  
I'll admit naming your kid "X Æ A-12" is original....
 
Xai [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2020-05-22 3:35:31 AM  
It's important to stress what musk is good at, and that is funding businesses that are extremely risky and growing them successfully into world leading companies.

He isn't a genius scientist, he isn't composing (even average) music, but you have to give him credit for the things he actually is good at .

I always remember all the apple fan boys crowing about Steve jobs, he was no inventor but he was unbelievable at marketing, could probably sell ice to penguins.
 
2020-05-22 5:31:45 AM  
He exposed that pedo, right?
 
2020-05-22 5:34:58 AM  
He got environmentalists to buy coal powered cars. Here at least.
 
2020-05-22 5:39:53 AM  
original? Hmm I was going to say launching a car into space was fairly original, but then I remembered that NASA did that many times already and even landed them on other planets too. Soo never mind I guess.
 
2020-05-22 6:07:33 AM  
His statements about the uselessness of LiDAR in autonomous driving systems, at a time when everyone else and their mother are heavily dependent on it, are either going to end up as incredibly visionary, or the equivalent of "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home".

/also, TeslaCharts is a troll account who links to zerohedge and the like several times a week. Don't give them any press
 
2020-05-22 6:22:35 AM  
Look at the Robber Barons. None of them knew how to do the nitty gritty. Carnegie said something along the lines of "I don't know how to make steel, but I know how to hire the people who do".

Edison and Westinghouse thought up some original ideas, but ran R&D labs to flesh out ideas. Rockefeller came up with the idea of oil pipelines, but never sweated at one. Hell, JP Morgan might have been the only genious when he booted Edison, settled on AC, and found the money to build networks.
 
2020-05-22 6:38:12 AM  

keldaria: original? Hmm I was going to say launching a car into space was fairly original,


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2020-05-22 6:41:02 AM  
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2020-05-22 7:08:23 AM  
I prefer looking at what people have done over what they've said.  Musk has brought electric cars to the mass market.
 
2020-05-22 7:12:47 AM  

Psychohazard: I prefer looking at what people have done over what they've said.  Musk has brought electric cars to the mass market.


And got people interested and excited about space flight again.
 
2020-05-22 7:14:43 AM  

neaorin: His statements about the uselessness of LiDAR in autonomous driving systems, at a time when everyone else and their mother are heavily dependent on it, are either going to end up as incredibly visionary, or the equivalent of "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home".

/also, TeslaCharts is a troll account who links to zerohedge and the like several times a week. Don't give them any press


I think they should use sonar for driving systems.  it'd sound so cool like hundreds of ww2 subs fighting each other.
 
2020-05-22 7:39:02 AM  

Psychohazard: I prefer looking at what people have done over what they've said.  Musk has brought electric cars to the mass market.


Expensive luxury cars are not the mass market. Wake me when I can buy an economy class electric car.
 
2020-05-22 7:48:26 AM  

t3knomanser: Psychohazard: I prefer looking at what people have done over what they've said.  Musk has brought electric cars to the mass market.

Expensive luxury cars are not the mass market. Wake me when I can buy an economy class electric car.


Well wake up, the Leaf has been available for 10 years and was only recently overtaken by the Model 3 in sales.
 
2020-05-22 7:49:26 AM  
He called that one guy a pedophile.  That was pretty original.

/ok so it was derivative
 
2020-05-22 7:50:12 AM  

nyan9mm: He exposed that pedo, right?


I gotta start reading the threads first.
 
2020-05-22 7:54:14 AM  
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2020-05-22 7:55:23 AM  
He has said things intelligent and original. The problem is the intelligent things were not original and the original things were not intelligent.

/But as Xai said above he's clearly great at getting stuff done, finding, motivating and pushing people to build stuff for him.
 
2020-05-22 7:56:32 AM  

enry: And got people interested and excited about space flight again.


I think the privatization of space flight was inevitable, and the first thing a private company does is look at costs.  The biggest cost is the first stage booster.  So a reusable booster was inevitable.  Elon just rolled the dice at the right time.  Same with electric cars - the right product at the right time.

The hyperloop is ultrahopeless, I'm afraid.
 
2020-05-22 8:00:33 AM  

Xai: It's important to stress what musk is good at, and that is funding businesses that are extremely risky and growing them successfully into world leading companies.

He isn't a genius scientist, he isn't composing (even average) music, but you have to give him credit for the things he actually is good at .

I always remember all the apple fan boys crowing about Steve jobs, he was no inventor but he was unbelievable at marketing, could probably sell ice to penguins.


Jobs was an overrated jerk with a cult following as well.
 
2020-05-22 8:01:15 AM  

wildcardjack: Look at the Robber Barons. None of them knew how to do the nitty gritty. Carnegie said something along the lines of "I don't know how to make steel, but I know how to hire the people who do".


Which is the opposite of Musk, who claims to be the chief engineer at SpaceX and responsible for engineering of the Tesla vehicles. Since the beginning, a lot of people have been treating him like Tony Stark. He is not Tony Stark.
 
2020-05-22 8:02:20 AM  

falkone32: t3knomanser: Psychohazard: I prefer looking at what people have done over what they've said.  Musk has brought electric cars to the mass market.

Expensive luxury cars are not the mass market. Wake me when I can buy an economy class electric car.

Well wake up, the Leaf has been available for 10 years and was only recently overtaken by the Model 3 in sales.


Sorry, this was a Musk-bashing thread, I didn't think I needed to specify hat I was mocking the idiot who claims Musk brought electric cars to the mass market.
 
2020-05-22 8:07:21 AM  
If I were a multibillionaire I'd get a bunch of eggheads and tell them to safely put me on Titan and be able to get  me home.  who wouldn't want to go to another 'planet' that has an atmosphere and oceans?
 
2020-05-22 8:09:18 AM  

You Are All Sheep: oceans


He could bring his mini sub with him to help explore :)

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2020-05-22 8:21:22 AM  

nyan9mm: You Are All Sheep: oceans

He could bring his mini sub with him to help explore :)

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Wrong pictures. That's your mom's dildo.
 
2020-05-22 8:32:04 AM  
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That was a pretty enormous statement. It was also intelligent, and original.

I don't care if it didn't come out of his mouth. I don't care if it wasn't him alone. It wouldn't have happened without him.
 
2020-05-22 8:41:00 AM  
He invented:

- PayPal
- The Electric Car
- The Flamethrower
- Self-Landing Rockets
- The Glory Hole
 
Xai [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2020-05-22 8:41:34 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Xai: It's important to stress what musk is good at, and that is funding businesses that are extremely risky and growing them successfully into world leading companies.

He isn't a genius scientist, he isn't composing (even average) music, but you have to give him credit for the things he actually is good at .

I always remember all the apple fan boys crowing about Steve jobs, he was no inventor but he was unbelievable at marketing, could probably sell ice to penguins.

Jobs was an overrated jerk with a cult following as well.


The point is he was good at cultivating a cult following. I hate apple products.
 
2020-05-22 8:42:06 AM  

falkone32: wildcardjack: Look at the Robber Barons. None of them knew how to do the nitty gritty. Carnegie said something along the lines of "I don't know how to make steel, but I know how to hire the people who do".

Which is the opposite of Musk, who claims to be the chief engineer at SpaceX and responsible for engineering of the Tesla vehicles. Since the beginning, a lot of people have been treating him like Tony Stark. He is not Tony Stark.


Justin Hammer?
 
2020-05-22 9:01:22 AM  

italie: That was a pretty enormous statement. It was also intelligent, and original.


Intelligent, sort-of.

Original?

Nope.

The Sky Calls (1959 Russian Sci Fi Movie ) rocket landing scene
Youtube TdSxDNnqRlo


People have been imagining rockets landing that way for many, many decades now.
 
2020-05-22 9:07:42 AM  

padraig: nyan9mm: You Are All Sheep: oceans

He could bring his mini sub with him to help explore :)

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Wrong pictures. That's your mom's dildo.


Don't @me friendo.

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2020-05-22 9:08:21 AM  

dittybopper: italie: That was a pretty enormous statement. It was also intelligent, and original.

Intelligent, sort-of.

Original?

Nope.

[YouTube video: The Sky Calls (1959 Russian Sci Fi Movie ) rocket landing scene]

People have been imagining rockets landing that way for many, many decades now.


And show me how many other people actually did it, three at a time, after launching a car into space, with HD cameras at a multitude of angles, while blasting Bowie.

The slam dunk isn't new either, yet people find plenty of ways to make it original.
 
2020-05-22 9:14:14 AM  

wildcardjack: Look at the Robber Barons. None of them knew how to do the nitty gritty. Carnegie said something along the lines of "I don't know how to make steel, but I know how to hire the people who do".

Edison and Westinghouse thought up some original ideas, but ran R&D labs to flesh out ideas. Rockefeller came up with the idea of oil pipelines, but never sweated at one. Hell, JP Morgan might have been the only genious when he booted Edison, settled on AC, and found the money to build networks.


The whole thing is just an outgrowth of any operation's, "My boss don't know shiat about how to do any of this stuff!" biatch.  It's usually true, and it's also irrelevant.  Your boss isn't there to know how to make table lathes, they're there to manage the people that do know.  They don't know how to run a laser fabricator because they're focused on keeping things halfway organized, and you'd fail spectacularly at managing the whole shebang because you're focused on your shiat.

Money guys are just another evolution thereof.  They focus on growing and expanding your capabilities while the boss is managing all the goons while the goons are actually making the stuff.  All three are very much necessary to have that level of operation - lose one and you're done.  Doesn't make any of them more or less important.

/doesn't mean floor peeps shouldn't biatch about the boss, or the boss about the money guy
//they're all focused on different stuff, so of course there's going to be friction
///you're intended to balance the three to create a reasonable compromise, but all too many bosses and money guys have forgotten that part
////that part being that you really DO need all three, or you're on the road to nowhere here and now.  Might be a bit, but the fall has begun
 
2020-05-22 9:24:58 AM  

t3knomanser: falkone32: t3knomanser: Psychohazard: I prefer looking at what people have done over what they've said.  Musk has brought electric cars to the mass market.

Expensive luxury cars are not the mass market. Wake me when I can buy an economy class electric car.

Well wake up, the Leaf has been available for 10 years and was only recently overtaken by the Model 3 in sales.

Sorry, this was a Musk-bashing thread, I didn't think I needed to specify hat I was mocking the idiot who claims Musk brought electric cars to the mass market.


Sorry, I also meant to sound sarcastic. I should have used teh slashies.
 
2020-05-22 9:40:03 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Xai: It's important to stress what musk is good at, and that is funding businesses that are extremely risky and growing them successfully into world leading companies.

He isn't a genius scientist, he isn't composing (even average) music, but you have to give him credit for the things he actually is good at .

I always remember all the apple fan boys crowing about Steve jobs, he was no inventor but he was unbelievable at marketing, could probably sell ice to penguins.

Jobs was an overrated jerk with a cult following as well.


I don't even use apple products but, to be honest, I still respect Steve Jobs ability to actually have a plan for UI design. I have always used Google phones and it is immensely irritating that the "right way" of doing things is in constant flux and too often has absolutely nothing to do with what the interface actually does and even varies depending on the app. They're constantly struggling with UI components that Apple did right the very first time when they invented the modern mobile touch interface.

I just upgraded to Android 10 and the "Recent Apps" functionality that has worked fine for years suddenly sucks at letting you pick from your recently used apps. I don't even know what the interface is supposed to do now. And when you search these bizarre design decisions nobody can provide a justification aside from "well we pulled random people off the street and asked them how to do this" as though that was the height of design rather than the strategy of a complete amateur.
 
2020-05-22 9:47:28 AM  
He helped make this happen which is the most impressive thing I've seen in a long time.

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2020-05-22 9:49:08 AM  
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2020-05-22 9:55:29 AM  

Psychohazard: I prefer looking at what people have done over what they've said.  Musk has brought electric cars to the mass market.


He made luxury electric cars but convinced investors and his cult followers that the goal was to make a mass market EV. In 2016, he promised that the base price of the Model 3 would be $35k; it's 2020 and it's $40k. That's hardly mass market when you consider that a Honda Civic starts at $20k - that's a car that most people actually could afford to buy without a ridiculous loan.
 
2020-05-22 10:24:32 AM  

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I watched that one, he is a weird dude. Having said that, he did strike me as intelligent and he spoke of a lot of original ideas (I have no way of knowing whether they were actually his)
 
2020-05-22 10:32:27 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: He called that one guy a pedophile.  That was pretty original.

/ok so it was derivative


Diver: Your rescue capsule idea is not feasible
Musk: You're a pedo!
 
2020-05-22 11:13:46 AM  
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2020-05-22 11:19:00 AM  
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2020-05-22 12:23:13 PM  

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Anybody else notice his Twitter icon is from the box art to the video game Deus Ex?

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Oh, and to get this out of the way:

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2020-05-22 1:07:01 PM  

You Are All Sheep: neaorin: His statements about the uselessness of LiDAR in autonomous driving systems, at a time when everyone else and their mother are heavily dependent on it, are either going to end up as incredibly visionary, or the equivalent of "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home".

/also, TeslaCharts is a troll account who links to zerohedge and the like several times a week. Don't give them any press

I think they should use sonar for driving systems.  it'd sound so cool like hundreds of ww2 subs fighting each other.


My car would be named Vasily.


/one ping only
 
2020-05-22 1:09:45 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Xai: It's important to stress what musk is good at, and that is funding businesses that are extremely risky and growing them successfully into world leading companies.

He isn't a genius scientist, he isn't composing (even average) music, but you have to give him credit for the things he actually is good at .

I always remember all the apple fan boys crowing about Steve jobs, he was no inventor but he was unbelievable at marketing, could probably sell ice to penguins.

Jobs was an overrated jerk with a cult following as well.


But then he put on that black turtleneck tactileneck and became cool, and made people feel cool for owning what he was selling.
 
2020-05-22 1:11:08 PM  
He chose excellent hair plugs. The work done looks totally real at least in photographs.
 
2020-05-22 6:51:45 PM  

neaorin: His statements about the uselessness of LiDAR in autonomous driving systems, at a time when everyone else and their mother are heavily dependent on it, are either going to end up as incredibly visionary, or the equivalent of "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home".

/also, TeslaCharts is a troll account who links to zerohedge and the like several times a week. Don't give them any press


640k ought to be enough for anybody.
 
2020-05-22 6:54:18 PM  

Psychohazard: I prefer looking at what people have done over what they've said.  Musk has brought electric cars to the mass market.


This.  The guy is a sociopathic turbodouche but here made sure the electric car revolution is an American one.  It truly pains me to say it but if we could get a couple more people to do what he did we'din much better shape as a country.
 
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