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(The Week)   "Trump pretends to have written more books than he pretends to have read"   (theweek.com) divider line
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3 days ago  
"In an interview on Crossfire in 1987, Trump mentioned Tom Wolfe as one of his favorite authors. Seconds after saying he had not read The Bonfire of the Vanities, Trump said, "I really like Tom Wolfe's last book," which was The Bonfire of the Vanities."

So he's always been that dumb.
 
3 days ago  
If only they had run "Coronavirus is coming" PSAs on the Gorilla Channel
 
3 days ago  
Conservatives love that. Look at Bill O'Reilly.
 
3 days ago  
If you're reading this sentence, you've read more than the president has today.

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3 days ago  
The only information that interests Trump is information that affirms his self-image. He's rich, handsome, and popular - that's what he wants to hear, which is why he regularly says it himself.

He's got yuuuge...tracts of land...mortgaged to the hilt.
 
3 days ago  
"EverytEvery Trump comments on a subject, he reveals how little he knows about it. He wondered aloud why the Civil War was fought. He said he's been treated worse than Abraham Lincoln, who was assassinated. He didn't know what happened at Pearl Harbor. He's too dumb to know he's ignorant, and he's too narcissistic to care."
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3 days ago  
Trump, we are told, processes information orally.

um.. like a tabby cat, or a terrier, or a toddler, right?

He lives and acts in the moment, chasing instant gratification, which reading does not provide.

um....like a kitten, or a puppy or a preschooler, huh?

His bibliophobia would be funny if it weren't so deadly.

Deadly, you mean like a leader of a terror cell, or a death cult, or a novel pestilent virus.
/got it
 
3 days ago  
Insightful.  Trump will never know.
 
3 days ago  
Now where did I leave my Captain Obvious hat. I know it's around here somewhere.
 
3 days ago  

sinner4ever: Conservatives love that. Look at Bill O'Reilly.


Sarah Palin Can't Name a Newspaper She Reads
Youtube xRkWebP2Q0Y
 
3 days ago  
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3 days ago  
He's illiterate.
 
3 days ago  

ArcadianRefugee: sinner4ever: Conservatives love that. Look at Bill O'Reilly.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/xRkWebP2​Q0Y]


"Gotcha journalism!"
 
3 days ago  

Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.


Even his writing skills are shaky

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3 days ago  

Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.


Bingo
 
3 days ago  

Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.


Do you just type the stupidest thing that you possibly can to see if people will still praise you for it?
 
3 days ago  
Have they tried hiring Ben Garrison to draw the daily intelligence briefings on the naked ass cheeks of a Ivanka look-alike, and let him look at her while the surviving members of the band Presidents of the United States of America play a re-lyriced version of their biggest hit, now called "Trump?"
 
3 days ago  
Hamberders. He has never seen the actual word written before and thought that's what people were saying.
 
3 days ago  
Drumpf, we are told, processes information orally.

That's what Ivanka said.
 
3 days ago  

Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.


Functionally, yes. I'd say he's at 3rd grade level at best.
 
3 days ago  
A merely stupid person could actually make a good leader - but only if they knew how to hire smarter people, delegate the work to them appropriately, and let them choose how best to accomplish their goals.  The trick is that person can't be a complete idiot - they have to understand enough to realize how much they don't understand. They also have to be able to filter out bullshiatters who pretend to know what they're talking about from their staff.

Trump isn't merely stupid though. He's stupid to Trumpian levels. And what's worse is he is willfully ignorant. On the rare occasion an idea finds its way into his head, he latches onto it and refuses to listen to anything that contradicts it (including those hopefully smarter people he's hired). How can something else be true when he's so certain of this one thing?  He lacks the ability to reflect on that and is scared to test the original thought, as he's scared of ever finding out he's wrong. Anyone who tells him something different is "fake" and an enemy.

This is why he's the biggest failure in the history of this country. I shudder to think about how badly a second term could be for us (and the rest of the world)...
 
3 days ago  

eKonk: A merely stupid person could actually make a good leader - but only if they knew how to hire smarter people, delegate the work to them appropriately, and let them choose how best to accomplish their goals.  The trick is that person can't be a complete idiot - they have to understand enough to realize how much they don't understand. They also have to be able to filter out bullshiatters who pretend to know what they're talking about from their staff.

Trump isn't merely stupid though. He's stupid to Trumpian levels. And what's worse is he is willfully ignorant. On the rare occasion an idea finds its way into his head, he latches onto it and refuses to listen to anything that contradicts it (including those hopefully smarter people he's hired). How can something else be true when he's so certain of this one thing?  He lacks the ability to reflect on that and is scared to test the original thought, as he's scared of ever finding out he's wrong. Anyone who tells him something different is "fake" and an enemy.

This is why he's the biggest failure in the history of this country. I shudder to think about how badly a second term could be for us (and the rest of the world)...


Paradox: no one would consider such a person "stupid".
 
3 days ago  

Archie Goodwin: Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.

Functionally, yes. I'd say he's at 3rd grade level at best.


As the father of a 3rd grader, I take offense to that. While my son has a lot of maturing to do, both intellectually and emotionally, he's on a level (typical of 9 year olds) that Trump has never seen, much less attained.
 
3 days ago  
He's not illiterate you can tell the difference when he's reading off a teleprompter and when he's relying on his really big brain and just speaking off the top of his empty head. He just doesn't read by choice which is much worse.
 
3 days ago  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.

Do you just type the stupidest thing that you possibly can to see if people will still praise you for it?


A Full Frontal Investigation: Trump Can't Read | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS
Youtube 7LFkN7QGp2c
 
3 days ago  

eKonk: Archie Goodwin: Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.

Functionally, yes. I'd say he's at 3rd grade level at best.

As the father of a 3rd grader, I take offense to that. While my son has a lot of maturing to do, both intellectually and emotionally, he's on a level (typical of 9 year olds) that Trump has never seen, much less attained.


My apologies to you and your son, but I did say 'at best'. On reflection, I'd go further and say he was 3rd grade at best at his peak and he has deteriorated markedly over the last few years.
 
3 days ago  
If you're reading this sentence, you've read more than the pres...

Stopped reading right there.

/ don't want to be an overachiever.
 
3 days ago  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Have they tried hiring Ben Garrison to draw the daily intelligence briefings on the naked ass cheeks of a Ivanka look-alike, and let him look at her while the surviving members of the band Presidents of the United States of America play a re-lyriced version of their biggest hit, now called "Trump?"


He's Trump
He's Trump
He's Trump
He's in your head

He's Trump
He's Trump
He's Trump
You might be dead
 
3 days ago  

resident dystopian: SanityIsAFullTimeJob: Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.

Do you just type the stupidest thing that you possibly can to see if people will still praise you for it?

[YouTube video: A Full Frontal Investigation: Trump Can't Read | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS]


Your point is that the awful and grating Samantha Bee tried a lame bit with the same premise?

What's the point?
 
3 days ago  

RTOGUY: He's not illiterate you can tell the difference when he's reading off a teleprompter and when he's relying on his really big brain and just speaking off the top of his empty head. He just doesn't read by choice which is much worse.


Precisely- he's intellectually bankrupt. As someone who probably read more books before I was 10 then he has in his entire life, I find it particularly infuriating.
 
3 days ago  

shpritz: If you're reading this sentence, you've read more than the pres...

Stopped reading right there.

/ don't want to be an overachiever.


Too late. The fact that you started and then stopped already places you ahead of the President.
 
3 days ago  
Uh-Oh: Does Donald Trump Know How to Read?
Youtube bd79UsXSLWg
 
3 days ago  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.

Even his writing skills are shaky

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I like John Oliver's assessment:

"Trump's signature looks like he put a pen in his mouth and then had a seizure."
 
3 days ago  

shpritz: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Have they tried hiring Ben Garrison to draw the daily intelligence briefings on the naked ass cheeks of a Ivanka look-alike, and let him look at her while the surviving members of the band Presidents of the United States of America play a re-lyriced version of their biggest hit, now called "Trump?"

He's Trump
He's Trump
He's Trump
He's in your head

He's Trump
He's Trump
He's Trump
You might be dead


He's Trump
He's Trump
He's Trump
Is he inbred?

/apologies to weird al
 
3 days ago  

qorkfiend: eKonk: A merely stupid person could actually make a good leader - but only if they knew how to hire smarter people, delegate the work to them appropriately, and let them choose how best to accomplish their goals.  The trick is that person can't be a complete idiot - they have to understand enough to realize how much they don't understand. They also have to be able to filter out bullshiatters who pretend to know what they're talking about from their staff.

Trump isn't merely stupid though. He's stupid to Trumpian levels. And what's worse is he is willfully ignorant. On the rare occasion an idea finds its way into his head, he latches onto it and refuses to listen to anything that contradicts it (including those hopefully smarter people he's hired). How can something else be true when he's so certain of this one thing?  He lacks the ability to reflect on that and is scared to test the original thought, as he's scared of ever finding out he's wrong. Anyone who tells him something different is "fake" and an enemy.

This is why he's the biggest failure in the history of this country. I shudder to think about how badly a second term could be for us (and the rest of the world)...

Paradox: no one would consider such a person "stupid".


Good point. I guess I'm imagining someone who doesn't have much knowledge, nor the capacity to retain much more, and calling that "stupid" (which I think is a fair definition).  However, I'm imagining this same person is aware of their lack of knowledge and is able to trust more capable people to do the important things - which, as you point out, is how I might define "smart". Which completely destroys my whole statement except for one underlying point:
Based on his words and actions, Trump is a willfully ignorant idiot who is unfit for office or any other position of influence.
 
3 days ago  
That for those of us who were aware of him since the 80's and lived in this country (hint-hint),
we have had suspicions that he has always suffered from an obvious undiagnosed learning disability.
*(the unruly child that was ultimately shipped off to military school, who had daddy buy his way into Wharton)

/pretending anything else is disingenuous, cynical and and feigning stupidity.
//or just being a bored channer or redditor hoping to have the mods intervene if this discussion gets out of hand

in short, he doesn't read, cannot read, is unable to understand what he reads, and needs information to be regurgitated to orally like he is a farking baby nesting chick instead
of the leader of a once mighty nation.
 
3 days ago  

Archie Goodwin: eKonk: Archie Goodwin: Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.

Functionally, yes. I'd say he's at 3rd grade level at best.

As the father of a 3rd grader, I take offense to that. While my son has a lot of maturing to do, both intellectually and emotionally, he's on a level (typical of 9 year olds) that Trump has never seen, much less attained.

My apologies to you and your son, but I did say 'at best'. On reflection, I'd go further and say he was 3rd grade at best at his peak and he has deteriorated markedly over the last few years.


No need to apologize - I perhaps exaggerated my level of offense taken, and that's squarely on me.

To your point, I will amend my own comment to say that Trump has never publicly displayed the maturity or ignorance one expects of a third grader, but he may very well have achieved (perhaps even of his own merit) the level of academic accomplishment needed to pass the 2nd grade.
 
3 days ago  

eKonk: Archie Goodwin: eKonk: Archie Goodwin: Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.

Functionally, yes. I'd say he's at 3rd grade level at best.

As the father of a 3rd grader, I take offense to that. While my son has a lot of maturing to do, both intellectually and emotionally, he's on a level (typical of 9 year olds) that Trump has never seen, much less attained.

My apologies to you and your son, but I did say 'at best'. On reflection, I'd go further and say he was 3rd grade at best at his peak and he has deteriorated markedly over the last few years.

No need to apologize - I perhaps exaggerated my level of offense taken, and that's squarely on me.

To your point, I will amend my own comment to say that Trump has never publicly displayed the maturity or ignorance one expects of a third grader, but he may very well have achieved (perhaps even of his own merit) the level of academic accomplishment needed to pass the 2nd grade.


Wow, talk about offending 3rd graders - I meant Trump has never publicly displayed the maturity or cognizance one expects of a third grader...

/hangs head in 4th-grade level shame
 
3 days ago  
Rumor has it that he's dyslexic. We shouldn't dyslexia shame.

/Maybe just this one time.
 
3 days ago  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: resident dystopian: SanityIsAFullTimeJob: Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.

Do you just type the stupidest thing that you possibly can to see if people will still praise you for it?

[YouTube video: A Full Frontal Investigation: Trump Can't Read | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS]

Your point is that the awful and grating Samantha Bee tried a lame bit with the same premise?

What's the point?


Dude, just jump to the part where you post "fake news!" and get it over with.
 
3 days ago  
He retweets mockery that he thinks is praise.
 
3 days ago  
also, what is really, really farking annoying is that we are discussing this functionally illiterate dickhead,
when many of the former presidents were polyglots.
List of multilingual presidents of the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of​_​multilingual_presidents_of_the_United_​States#Thomas_Jefferson
/this pathetic asshole that struggles to read off a teleprompter, then opines "so true", because it's the first time
his lazy farking eyes had ever scanned the document he is "reading".
 
3 days ago  

fusillade762: "In an interview on Crossfire in 1987, Trump mentioned Tom Wolfe as one of his favorite authors. Seconds after saying he had not read The Bonfire of the Vanities, Trump said, "I really like Tom Wolfe's last book," which was The Bonfire of the Vanities."

So he's always been that dumb.


What Trump thinks that book is about

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3 days ago  

resident dystopian: also, what is really, really farking annoying is that we are discussing this functionally illiterate dickhead,
when many of the former presidents were polyglots.
List of multilingual presidents of the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_​multilingual_presidents_of_the_United_​States#Thomas_Jefferson
/this pathetic asshole that struggles to read off a teleprompter, then opines "so true", because it's the first time
his lazy farking eyes had ever scanned the document he is "reading".


That James Madison spoke French with a Scottish accent is the greatest thing ever
 
3 days ago  

RTOGUY: He's not illiterate you can tell the difference when he's reading off a teleprompter and when he's relying on his really big brain and just speaking off the top of his empty head. He just doesn't read by choice which is much worse.


And moreover, his speeches are written at the 3rd grade level. Very basic words, short sentences, things he can pronounce without much difficulty.
 
3 days ago  

ArcadianRefugee: SanityIsAFullTimeJob: resident dystopian: SanityIsAFullTimeJob: Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.

Do you just type the stupidest thing that you possibly can to see if people will still praise you for it?

[YouTube video: A Full Frontal Investigation: Trump Can't Read | Full Frontal with Samantha Bee | TBS]

Your point is that the awful and grating Samantha Bee tried a lame bit with the same premise?

What's the point?

Dude, just jump to the part where you post "fake news!" and get it over with.


It's certainly a bizarre and mindless talking point.

If one was to actually watch him read, you'd see he's rather skillful. Especially for a senior citizen - so probably not the best eyes and down a notch or two from their prime.

In addition to usually flawless reading, his eyes will leave the text and he'll continue reciting chunks of the text with his eyes on the audience. Then he'll switch from reading to ad libbing or talking to a specific person then back again before it's obvious which he's doing. That's a skill. You'll see instances where he has his off moments of course.

Watch a SOTU for example:

Trump gives his first State of the Union address
Youtube -SMs24f9uqU
 
3 days ago  

resident dystopian: That for those of us who were aware of him since the 80's and lived in this country (hint-hint),
we have had suspicions that he has always suffered from an obvious undiagnosed learning disability.


Definitely ADHD. Have you seen him when he's standing off to the side while some other world leader is talking? Or just standing for a national anthem? He doesn't know what to do with himself. He rocks back and forth and starts fidgeting around with stuff. He is unable to stand still or focus on any one thing for more than 5 seconds.

This is easily treatable but for someone who's been handed everything in his life and has never really had to struggle to overcome any obstacle, it's unlikely he's fixable at this point.
 
3 days ago  
After the last three years it's safe to assume that pretty much anyone that works at the White House, the pentagon or any other government agency that has first hand exposure to Trump will be voting for the other guy.

I can't imagine the White House staff as an example are particularly happy with the rich hillbillies they've had to take care of the last three years.
 
3 days ago  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: In addition to usually flawless reading, his eyes will leave the text and he'll continue reciting chunks of the text with his eyes on the audience. Then he'll switch from reading to ad libbing or talking to a specific person then back again before it's obvious which he's doing. That's a skill.


You want to see a master at that, watch Bill Clinton. He's the king of ad libbing extra information and detail about what he's talking about that's not covered in the speech, almost as if the speech itself is just bullet points and he's giving a presentation where he adds extra commentary to it.
 
3 days ago  

eKonk: Archie Goodwin: Gyrfalcon: He's illiterate.

Functionally, yes. I'd say he's at 3rd grade level at best.

As the father of a 3rd grader, I take offense to that. While my son has a lot of maturing to do, both intellectually and emotionally, he's on a level (typical of 9 year olds) that Trump has never seen, much less attained.


I read The Hobbit in kindergarten. In 1st grade, my favorite book was Crichten's Jurassic Park.

Completely off-topic, but The Lost World was actually a very good book, even though the movie sucked.
 
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