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2020-05-21 11:51:19 AM  
What A Wonderful World.avi
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2020-05-21 1:26:27 PM  
John Holland-Kaye, Heathrow chief executive, said physical distancing at a boarding gate would mean a queue of 1km for a jumbo jet.

Sounds lovely
 
2020-05-21 1:27:48 PM  
I'm just going to say this:

There is no practical reason to be flying during this pandemic.
 
2020-05-21 1:38:51 PM  

Cajnik: John Holland-Kaye, Heathrow chief executive, said physical distancing at a boarding gate would mean a queue of 1km for a jumbo jet.

Sounds lovely


And the wait time for the fecal samples.
 
2020-05-21 1:41:59 PM  

OkieDookie: And the wait time for the fecal samples.


Smears are always available. I see a long line of people dragging their butts along a special covid-19 detecting carpet like dogs with impacted anal glands.

Cajnik: Sounds lovely


How about now? :-)
 
2020-05-21 1:42:34 PM  
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2020-05-21 1:44:00 PM  

whidbey: I'm just going to say this:

There is no practical reason to be flying during this pandemic.


https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/fl​i​ght-capacity-united-states-coronavirus​/index.html
 
2020-05-21 1:44:07 PM  
Even more of a reason not to fly. I was spoiled the last time I flew it was a private charter flight.
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2020-05-21 1:46:59 PM  
From physical distancing to reduced onboard food

How do you "reduce" nothing?  Negative food?

Are they going to pump our stomachs as we board now?
 
2020-05-21 1:49:15 PM  
Last summer I took a three and a half hour flight and the seats were so uncomfortable my butt and back hurt for the rest of the day after arriving and again after I got home.  I haven't had a desire to get on a plane since then.
 
2020-05-21 1:50:29 PM  
It would be a lot easier to social distance on high-speed rail, if we had one.
 
2020-05-21 1:54:32 PM  

FNG: Are they going to pump our stomachs as we board now?


*Rod Stewart raises an eyebrow*
 
2020-05-21 1:55:55 PM  

groppet: Even more of a reason not to fly. I was spoiled the last time I flew it was a private charter flight.


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2020-05-21 1:59:41 PM  

wxboy: whidbey: I'm just going to say this:

There is no practical reason to be flying during this pandemic.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/fli​ght-capacity-united-states-coronavirus​/index.html


Doesn't really negate any objections.

If most of those flights are business-related, we really are slaves to late-stage capitalism if we're risking our lives for that shiat.
 
2020-05-21 2:14:16 PM  
A world without duty-free is a world I don't want to live in.
 
2020-05-21 2:16:00 PM  
I can't see myself flying anytime soon.  But this seems to imply that you can't sit beside the person you are traveling with?  Mr Spawn and I have been locked up together since March 16.  I think it's safe to sit next to him in public.
 
2020-05-21 2:16:35 PM  
Wow somebody's mad that I pointed out flying is a stupid luxury we shouldn't be kissing ass over.

I feel sorry for you.
 
2020-05-21 2:22:54 PM  
Hmm...

Passengers should not expect a lingering goodbye with loved ones at the terminal. With few exceptions, nobody who is not travelling or working there will be allowed inside.

Sounds good so far. Why be in an airport if you are not working or flying?

EASA also recommends "respiratory etiquette", such as covering the face when sneezing. Those who do not comply could be ejected from the airport and suffer further penalties from local authorities.

Again, sounds good.

Heathrow has said it is installing 600 hand sanitiser stations, putting up signage featuring government health advice and even looking at using UV light to sanitise surfaces.

A really clean airport? Still sounds good.

All staff will be wearing masks but security employees performing body checks may also be wearing face shields. Security screening trays will be much more frequently disinfected.

Cleaner trays? No problem here. I could not care less if the security has to wear masks.

Hand luggage restrictions could be even stricter. EASA recommends cutting down on cabin bags to speed up boarding and reduce contamination risk. It recommends airlines incentivise customers to do this, so there may be discounts on hold luggage charges.
Passengers should be spaced apart if possible while boarding and disembarking and where buses are used, more should be provided. There may be an automated disinfectant dispenser at the aircraft door and a mat soaked with disinfectant to walk on.


The only reason I try to cram as much as possible in my hand luggage is the 'financial incentive' to reduce hold luggage. More buses and spaced queues so I don't have to play sardines with grumpy sweaty people? Still sounds good to me.

The aircraft should be thoroughly disinfected between flights, so trays are likely to be less grubby at least. EASA has asked airlines to install better air filters to clean the air in the cabin but everyone, passengers and crew, will be expected to wear masks. EASA recommends discarding them after four hours, meaning several may be needed for long-haul flights.

Better air filters, cleaner trays? Still all goodness. Face masks for hours sounds a bit not good, first negative as far as I can see.

The short-haul airline easyJet says there will be no food service on board its planes, at least initially. EASA has recommended "reduced" food and drink services and no duty free sales onboard.

Good, no being gouged for money every ten minutes during the flight.

Governments have been asked to simplify border control processes, such as by using facial recognition. Immigration halls may have to be redesigned to ease passenger flow and border control agents will be trained to spot signs of illness. After collecting baggage, passengers will be told to leave the airport as soon as possible.

Still good, get the hell out of the airport and stop hanging around blocking the way out.I like most of these new changes. Not keen on having to wear a mask but there are worse things.
 
2020-05-21 2:28:06 PM  

whidbey: Wow somebody's mad that I pointed out flying is a stupid luxury we shouldn't be kissing ass over.

I feel sorry for you.


Who mad?

No really, who is mad?

All I can see is one person posted a link without comment and you have overreacted to it.

Did you have some preset comments you made which you have to work through?

They don't really seem to match what is going on.
 
2020-05-21 2:29:21 PM  

Mrtraveler01: A world without duty-free is a world I don't want to live in.


It's OK, it is just the overpriced duty-free you get on the plane, from the sounds of things you can still get it at the airport.
 
2020-05-21 2:32:44 PM  

whidbey: I'm just going to say this:

There is no practical reason to be flying during this pandemic.


So, for the next several years? Some might consider that unrealistic.
 
2020-05-21 2:36:07 PM  

dready zim: Mrtraveler01: A world without duty-free is a world I don't want to live in.

It's OK, it is just the overpriced duty-free you get on the plane, from the sounds of things you can still get it at the airport.


Oh good. At least I can still get the overpriced duty-free on the ground.

Its ridiculous how airports overseas are designed around the overpriced duty-free shopping mall.
 
2020-05-21 2:36:20 PM  
The pandemic has proven more deadly than the Sept.. 11 attacks. So of course we will do more.

/jesusfarkingchristofcoursewewont
 
2020-05-21 2:44:58 PM  

Iniamyen: whidbey: I'm just going to say this:

There is no practical reason to be flying during this pandemic.

So, for the next several years? Some might consider that unrealistic.


Business travel should be done remotely on the Internet during this, yes.

And it's also realistic that I might be working from home for the next two years, if that's your timeline.

But nature has pretty much knocked flying down from its lofty pedestal now.   It's up to the airlines to accept it, and adapt heavily.
 
2020-05-21 2:46:08 PM  

whidbey: I'm just going to say this:

There is no practical reason to be flying during this pandemic.


I've got a work thing coming up in July.  I live in the MidAtlantic, and I'm going to drive to Des Moines.

/14 hours in a carr, yayyy
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2020-05-21 2:50:47 PM  
I loved the '6-year olds are exempt' bullshiat. Young children are the absolute worst for transmitting disease. I've two young daughters. Those little farkers are forever giving me colds, yet all they get is a sniffle. Young children should be banned the most.

I live in Spain, my family are in England. I've no intention of flying until this is under control. I accept this will be many, many months until I see my parents, but they are both over 70, I don't want to kill them.
 
2020-05-21 2:52:00 PM  
Anyone who develops symptoms after booking, or has been in contact with someone suffering from Covid-19, should not turn up to the flight.

Well, if they could easily get a refund, I'm sure people wouldn't turn up. But if recent history is any indication, a shaitty voucher makes people risk it
 
2020-05-21 2:57:22 PM  

fireclown: I've got a work thing coming up in July.  I live in the MidAtlantic, and I'm going to drive to Des Moines.

/14 hours in a carr, yayyy


And best of all, when you arrive, you're in Des Moines!


// Try the pork tenderloin
 
2020-05-21 3:06:29 PM  

whidbey: Iniamyen: whidbey: I'm just going to say this:

There is no practical reason to be flying during this pandemic.

So, for the next several years? Some might consider that unrealistic.

Business travel should be done remotely on the Internet during this, yes.

And it's also realistic that I might be working from home for the next two years, if that's your timeline.

But nature has pretty much knocked flying down from its lofty pedestal now.   It's up to the airlines to accept it, and adapt heavily.


The timeline for the virus is still the big unknown, but I think it's realistic to assume that it will be at least a year or two before you don't have to worry about it, either due to vaccine or other tools against it.

That said, the problem for the airlines is simultaneously cutting back now for that undetermined timeline and being ready to ramp back up when it's safer to fly again, when it involves financed assets that are tens/hundreds of millions of dollars each.
 
2020-05-21 3:07:00 PM  

whidbey: I'm just going to say this:

There is no practical reason to be flying during this pandemic.


Well I'm flying tomorrow.  Stupid as it probably is but I haven\t seen my wife and dogs and spending the last 3 months in a 350sqft apartment has taken a mental toll.  My shrink said I should go so.....  Of courseI will be taking extra precautions.  I even got a nice neck gaiter to wear over the mask:
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It only makes me look 20 years older.  And with a beanie I can cosplay an old sea dog should the need arise.
 
2020-05-21 3:18:35 PM  

Cajnik: fireclown: I've got a work thing coming up in July.  I live in the MidAtlantic, and I'm going to drive to Des Moines.

/14 hours in a carr, yayyy

And best of all, when you arrive, you're in Des Moines!


// Try the pork tenderloin



I don't see one in Des Moines.   But I'll look.  I do try to have a good time when I travel.  What else should I check out?  Since I'll have a car and all.
 
2020-05-21 3:34:28 PM  

FNG: From physical distancing to reduced onboard food

How do you "reduce" nothing?  Negative food?

Are they going to pump our stomachs as we board now?


That's probably a TSA Agent's revenge fantasy against all those who would dare chug/eat those items that aren't of the approved size...
 
2020-05-21 3:58:22 PM  
How air travelers, social distancers, mask wearing morons look.

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2020-05-21 4:12:28 PM  

p51d007: How air travelers, social distancers, mask wearing morons look.

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Ironically you're a sheep repeating talking points you've heard in right-wing circles.
 
2020-05-21 4:14:03 PM  

Dhoogall: whidbey: I'm just going to say this:

There is no practical reason to be flying during this pandemic.

Well I'm flying tomorrow.  Stupid as it probably is but I haven\t seen my wife and dogs and spending the last 3 months in a 350sqft apartment has taken a mental toll.  My shrink said I should go so.....  Of courseI will be taking extra precautions.  I even got a nice neck gaiter to wear over the mask:
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It only makes me look 20 years older.  And with a beanie I can cosplay an old sea dog should the need arise.


OMG! where did you get that?
 
2020-05-21 4:15:41 PM  

Dhoogall: I even got a nice neck gaiter to wear over the mask:


It took me a minute to see. That works really well.

Now I want one with the lower half of this face:

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2020-05-21 4:44:01 PM  
I prefer Charlie X brand face masks.

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2020-05-21 4:54:07 PM  

fireclown: Cajnik: fireclown: I've got a work thing coming up in July.  I live in the MidAtlantic, and I'm going to drive to Des Moines.

/14 hours in a carr, yayyy

And best of all, when you arrive, you're in Des Moines!


// Try the pork tenderloin


I don't see one in Des Moines.   But I'll look.  I do try to have a good time when I travel.  What else should I check out?  Since I'll have a car and all.


Oh, sorry you're right. The one in my mind is in Urbandale. It's right off the interstate
https://machineshed.com/urbandale/

https://exilebrewing.com/ - nice brewery
https://elbaitshop.com/ -262 beers on tap
https://royalmilebar.com/ - old man bar, and I mean that in the nicest way possible.

Stuff to do, hard to say now what will be open. Hopefully the Iowa Cubs baseball will be playing by then. It's the capital, so there are some decent galleries and museums too
 
2020-05-21 5:32:05 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: Dhoogall: whidbey: I'm just going to say this:

There is no practical reason to be flying during this pandemic.

Well I'm flying tomorrow.  Stupid as it probably is but I haven\t seen my wife and dogs and spending the last 3 months in a 350sqft apartment has taken a mental toll.  My shrink said I should go so.....  Of courseI will be taking extra precautions.  I even got a nice neck gaiter to wear over the mask:
[Fark user image 235x278]

It only makes me look 20 years older.  And with a beanie I can cosplay an old sea dog should the need arise.

OMG! where did you get that?


https://www.designexpress.com/
 
2020-05-21 6:20:28 PM  

Abox: Last summer I took a three and a half hour flight and the seats were so uncomfortable my butt and back hurt for the rest of the day after arriving and again after I got home.  I haven't had a desire to get on a plane since then.


I want to travel to Europe and this is one of my reasons I haven't gone. I get uncomfortable and stir crazy after about 2hrs on a flight. And no matter how hard I try I can't sleep either. Maybe this is finally the excuse airlines need to start making flying better. Of course that won't happen but I can dream.
 
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