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(Military Times)   Spike Lee to direct film which "tackles Vietnam." You know, that war no one ever makes movies about   (militarytimes.com) divider line
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2020-05-21 12:56:18 PM  
Mandingo + Xena + The Defiant Ones
 
2020-05-21 4:16:07 PM  
Do we win this time?
 
2020-05-21 4:18:02 PM  
When will someone in Hollywood make a good korean war movie.
 
2020-05-21 4:18:33 PM  

lolmao500: When will someone in Hollywood make a good korean war movie.


MASH?
 
2020-05-21 4:22:16 PM  
Looks like it will be through the lens of African-American soldiers/veterans which has NOT been done.
 
2020-05-21 4:26:31 PM  
All movies are the same, amirite?
 
2020-05-21 4:27:09 PM  
Platoon, Full Metal Jacket and Hamburger Hill all came out within a year of each other.  Seemed odd.  All good movies however.
 
2020-05-21 4:27:53 PM  

Hawk24: Looks like it will be through the lens of African-American soldiers/veterans which has NOT been done.


This. Plus with 211,454 American dead, he has a few months before Covid takes over that death toll. Then he can start working on another movie about how D.C. treated Americans -- many of them minorities -- as expendable while claiming victory.
 
2020-05-21 4:31:02 PM  
Tropic Thunder should have been the last Vietnam movie made.
 
2020-05-21 4:36:22 PM  

lolmao500: When will someone in Hollywood make a good korean war movie.


The Manchurian Candidate probably doesn't count, does it?
 
2020-05-21 4:39:06 PM  
One strike against for the typical "war story with the lost gold" angle... but the trailer looks good, it actually provides a different perspective, and it has Delroy Lindo. I'll give it a shot.
 
2020-05-21 4:39:06 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Platoon, Full Metal Jacket and Hamburger Hill all came out within a year of each other.  Seemed odd.  All good movies however.



Part of that is just coincidence, and there's also an argument that folks were still in a state of blissful denial about how Vietnam really was until the 80s, even after the success of Deer Hunter.

Oliver Stone got the idea to write Platoon after seeing Green Berets when he came back from serving. It took him more than a decade to get enough Hollywood cred to get anyone willing to finance it.

As for Full Metal Jacket, Stanley Kubrick spent years researching everything and more than a year shooting (long enough to where it wrecked Vincent D'onofrio's metabolism).
 
2020-05-21 4:42:34 PM  
The dolly shot has no place in the jungle.
 
2020-05-21 4:46:50 PM  
Hollywood hasn't made too many movies about unpopular wars or movies that aren't totally sucking off the military for quite a while. TV either, look at CBS. Hollywood has an understanding with the US military.

That's separate but also similar with not insulting the Chinese...although "24" wasn't very complimentary to the Chinese but that was like a decade ago.
 
2020-05-21 4:52:53 PM  

lolmao500: When will someone in Hollywood make a good korean war movie.


M*A*S*H, Pork Chop Hill, and The Bridges at Toko-Ri are good. Cease Fire (1953) is really interesting, being a 3d film shot around the time of the cease fire discussions in theatre. A bunch of the "actors" used (actually soldiers) would later die in the war.

Also, quietly, Train to Busan is a metaphor about the Korean War.
 
2020-05-21 4:55:40 PM  

JasonOfOrillia: The dolly shot has no place in the jungle.


Not if he's going for any sort of realism. A central character moving through space as the background glides past with the camera focused forward means that the jungle would have to have a clear path for the dolly or track that the camera runs on. Like setting a camera on the front of a train.

Doing the same thing but focusing the camera on the central character is usually used for comedy or if he's in a dream sequence.
 
2020-05-21 4:55:50 PM  
I think he's going to finally tell the story about how the Army Corps of Engineers blew up the levees to drown N Vietnam.
 
2020-05-21 4:56:36 PM  

BretMavrik: One strike against for the typical "war story with the lost gold" angle... but the trailer looks good, it actually provides a different perspective, and it has Delroy Lindo. I'll give it a shot.


Will he have sesame cake?
 
2020-05-21 4:58:17 PM  

stoli n coke: As for Full Metal Jacket, Stanley Kubrick spent years researching everything and more than a year shooting (long enough to where it wrecked Vincent D'onofrio's metabolism).


Couldn't have been that ruined.

he looked like this three months later:
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2020-05-21 4:58:17 PM  

lolmao500: When will someone in Hollywood make a good korean war movie.


Pork Chop Hill. For its time did examine some race issues. Lot of familiar faces in it.

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2020-05-21 4:59:26 PM  

lolmao500: When will someone in Hollywood make a good korean war movie.


Maybe once it ends.
 
2020-05-21 5:00:45 PM  

FrancoFile: lolmao500: When will someone in Hollywood make a good korean war movie.

The Manchurian Candidate probably doesn't count, does it?


The Steel Helmet was damned good.  One of the better war movies.
 
2020-05-21 5:04:04 PM  
Couldn't be worse than Miracle at Santa Anna.
 
2020-05-21 5:05:11 PM  

This text is now purple: stoli n coke: As for Full Metal Jacket, Stanley Kubrick spent years researching everything and more than a year shooting (long enough to where it wrecked Vincent D'onofrio's metabolism).

Couldn't have been that ruined.

he looked like this three months later:
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\Adventures in Babysitting was released one week before FMJ.


He showed up like that for FMJ and they made he pack on the pounds so he could fit his roll more.
 
wee
2020-05-21 5:08:00 PM  
How racist will this movie be?
 
2020-05-21 5:08:23 PM  
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2020-05-21 5:08:29 PM  

groppet: This text is now purple: stoli n coke: As for Full Metal Jacket, Stanley Kubrick spent years researching everything and more than a year shooting (long enough to where it wrecked Vincent D'onofrio's metabolism).

Couldn't have been that ruined.

he looked like this three months later:
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\Adventures in Babysitting was released one week before FMJ.

He showed up like that for FMJ and they made he pack on the pounds so he could fit his roll more.


FMJ was filmed over a year, and wrapped 4 months before AiBS started shooting.
 
2020-05-21 5:09:59 PM  

Hawk24: Looks like it will be through the lens of African-American soldiers/veterans which has NOT been done.


What, you don't count Dead Presidents? If you haven't seen it, its pretty good.
 
2020-05-21 5:10:14 PM  
I suppose it doesn't take place in the present day because those dudes ain't old enough. We been out of there for 45 years now. Time flies.

I'll just add I love that farking song - it never gets old.

/psychedelicized
 
2020-05-21 5:14:08 PM  
Woah, next they can finally get to making a WWII movie!
 
2020-05-21 5:15:41 PM  

wee: How racist will this movie be?


Spike is partnering up again with his writing partner from BlacKkKlansman, so if you think the KKK was treated unfairly in that one, you're probably not going to like this one.
 
wee
2020-05-21 5:25:20 PM  

stoli n coke: Spike is partnering up again with his writing partner from BlacKkKlansman, so if you think the KKK was treated unfairly in that one, you're probably not going to like this one.


Never saw it, so I don't really have any thoughts on it either way.  Was thinking more Malcolm X.
 
2020-05-21 5:37:25 PM  

wee: Never saw it, so I don't really have any thoughts on it either way.  Was thinking more Malcolm X.


So not thinking anything about his body of work either way, more having an opinion.
 
2020-05-21 5:54:30 PM  

groppet: This text is now purple: stoli n coke: As for Full Metal Jacket, Stanley Kubrick spent years researching everything and more than a year shooting (long enough to where it wrecked Vincent D'onofrio's metabolism).

Couldn't have been that ruined.

he looked like this three months later:
[Fark user image image 400x250]

\Adventures in Babysitting was released one week before FMJ.

He showed up like that for FMJ and they made he pack on the pounds so he could fit his roll more.


Or fit more rolls
 
2020-05-21 5:55:20 PM  
Honestly, Subby, since the late 1980s, Hollywood hasn't done much with Vietnam.

In terms of major films focussed on Vietnam since 1990, what I see is:

Flight of the Intruder
Operation Dumbo Drop
We Were Soldiers
 
2020-05-21 5:57:35 PM  

Flappyhead: Couldn't be worse than Miracle at Santa Anna.


I like Spike a lot, even movies of his that aren't very popular.  I can enjoy Bamboozled, for god's sake.  But Miracle is a terrible movie.  Spike might be way off base sometimes but I never thought he'd make anything that boring
 
2020-05-21 6:02:05 PM  

dywed88: Honestly, Subby, since the late 1980s, Hollywood hasn't done much with Vietnam.

In terms of major films focussed on Vietnam since 1990, what I see is:

Flight of the Intruder
Operation Dumbo Drop
We Were Soldiers


Rescue Dawn 2006
 
2020-05-21 6:10:22 PM  

dywed88: Honestly, Subby, since the late 1980s, Hollywood hasn't done much with Vietnam.

In terms of major films focussed on Vietnam since 1990, what I see is:

Flight of the Intruder
Operation Dumbo Drop
We Were Soldiers


Like I said, Hollywood doesn't do unpopular wars anymore. I mean you might see a few but not like WWII movies. Even Tarantino did some jingoistic movie where they gun down Hitler.
 
2020-05-21 6:14:08 PM  

Mugato: dywed88: Honestly, Subby, since the late 1980s, Hollywood hasn't done much with Vietnam.

In terms of major films focussed on Vietnam since 1990, what I see is:

Flight of the Intruder
Operation Dumbo Drop
We Were Soldiers

Like I said, Hollywood doesn't do unpopular wars anymore. I mean you might see a few but not like WWII movies. Even Tarantino did some jingoistic movie where they gun down Hitler.


You missed the entire point of that movie.
 
2020-05-21 6:15:58 PM  

Naido: Flappyhead: Couldn't be worse than Miracle at Santa Anna.

I like Spike a lot, even movies of his that aren't very popular.  I can enjoy Bamboozled, for god's sake.  But Miracle is a terrible movie.  Spike might be way off base sometimes but I never thought he'd make anything that boring


Meanwhile The Tuskegee Airmen delivered satisfying air battles and an unblinking look into the African-American experience in WW2.  And on 1/50 the budget too.
 
2020-05-21 6:22:45 PM  

Subtonic: Like I said, Hollywood doesn't do unpopular wars anymore. I mean you might see a few but not like WWII movies. Even Tarantino did some jingoistic movie where they gun down Hitler.


You missed the entire point of that movie.


Inglorious Basterds? True, it wasn't patriotic and I shouldn't have counted it with all the patriotic war movies. But what was the point of that movie?
 
2020-05-21 6:27:18 PM  
It's Spike Lee. Whatever else you think of him, he doesn't make shiatty movies.
 
2020-05-21 6:33:10 PM  

Flappyhead: Naido: Flappyhead: Couldn't be worse than Miracle at Santa Anna.

I like Spike a lot, even movies of his that aren't very popular.  I can enjoy Bamboozled, for god's sake.  But Miracle is a terrible movie.  Spike might be way off base sometimes but I never thought he'd make anything that boring

Meanwhile The Tuskegee Airmen delivered satisfying air battles and an unblinking look into the African-American experience in WW2.  And on 1/50 the budget too.


I liked that movie but the pilot in me winced when a P51-D pulled a 75G loop to wind up on the tail of a jet powered ME-262 and stay with it to shoot it down. I'm just not buying it.
 
2020-05-21 6:39:42 PM  

Mugato: Subtonic: Like I said, Hollywood doesn't do unpopular wars anymore. I mean you might see a few but not like WWII movies. Even Tarantino did some jingoistic movie where they gun down Hitler.


You missed the entire point of that movie.

Inglorious Basterds? True, it wasn't patriotic and I shouldn't have counted it with all the patriotic war movies. But what was the point of that movie?


It put a mirror up to the audience's thirst for violence. Keep in mind it was advertised as a nazi kill fest and was actually a long love letter to early cinema with the audience literally getting murdered at the end. You can argue it was Tarantino's jerk off project but certainly not the jingoistic pap you described.
 
2020-05-21 6:58:02 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: It's Spike Lee. Whatever else you think of him, he doesn't make shiatty movies.


Even the ones that aren't very good are at least interesting.

Summer of Sam felt like he was trying to tell 5 different stories at the same time, but it kept my attention.
 
2020-05-21 7:01:36 PM  

Mugato: dywed88: Honestly, Subby, since the late 1980s, Hollywood hasn't done much with Vietnam.

In terms of major films focussed on Vietnam since 1990, what I see is:

Flight of the Intruder
Operation Dumbo Drop
We Were Soldiers

Like I said, Hollywood doesn't do unpopular wars anymore. I mean you might see a few but not like WWII movies. Even Tarantino did some jingoistic movie where they gun down Hitler.


Iraq and Afghanistan have had a bunch of movies.

Vietnam ended 45 years ago.
 
2020-05-21 7:06:17 PM  
When will some make a good Korean police action movie?
 
2020-05-21 7:11:22 PM  

wee: stoli n coke: Spike is partnering up again with his writing partner from BlacKkKlansman, so if you think the KKK was treated unfairly in that one, you're probably not going to like this one.

Never saw it, so I don't really have any thoughts on it either way.  Was thinking more Malcolm X.


How exactly was the movie "Malcolm X" racist?
Save for his death scene, most of the movie was adapted straight from Malcolm X's autobiography and speeches.
You can't do a biopic on a civil rights leader who embraced separatism for a time and had his own horror stories of being black in the 1930s, 40s, and 50s without including them.

Or do you consider them racist simply because they made you uncomfortable?
 
2020-05-21 7:14:41 PM  

This text is now purple: Iraq and Afghanistan have had a bunch of movies.


Not really. And if they did, there weren't a lot of them that were anti-what we were doing

Subtonic: You can argue it was Tarantino's jerk off project but certainly not the jingoistic pap you described.


I get all the cinema stuff, I definitely do. And the resistance stuff I get. But suddenly Hitler and Goebel getting gunned downed in a gore fest by gore fest director Eli Roth no less, I dunno.

I wasn't all that on board with the whole Once Upon a Time in Hollywood rewriting of history either, as entertaining as it was.
 
2020-05-21 7:18:59 PM  
Smelly Pirate Hooker: It's Spike Lee. Whatever else you think of him, he doesn't make shiatty movies.


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I held that belief plus, also, too, until I punished my eyes and brain by viewing his utterly-misguided, thoroughly-unnecessary English-language take on "OldBoy."
 
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