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(MSNBC)   Despite Mark Esper's proclamation that we will have a COVID-19 vaccine just in time to reelect Trump, the Pentagon's own internal documents point to a much more grim scenario. But hey, we're winning, right?   (msnbc.com) divider line
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2020-05-20 1:35:10 PM  
Republicans always lie.
 
2020-05-20 1:46:44 PM  
Yeah, definitely publicly commit to that.
 
2020-05-20 2:24:00 PM  
It's only a matter of time for Donnie to declare that the vaccine will be available the second week of November, but only to states that vote for him.
 
2020-05-20 3:22:07 PM  

ImpendingCynic: It's only a matter of time for Donnie to declare that the vaccine will be available the second week of November, but only to states that vote for him.


Kinda like that middle-class tax cut he promised just after the mid-terms in 2018?
 
2020-05-20 4:09:04 PM  

qorkfiend: Yeah, definitely publicly commit to that.


Why not?  It's not like pundits ever get called out for their bullshiat predictions.  Tell the rubes whatever they want to hear.  They won't penalize you for it.
 
2020-05-20 4:41:06 PM  
I'm so sick of hearing "happy talk".

How about you guys only give us "hope" when there is actual reason for us to have some hope.
 
2020-05-20 4:43:03 PM  
Who is Mark Esper?  Someone from Final Fantasy?

(googles)  Ah, the lobbyist who calls himself the Secretary of Defense.
 
2020-05-20 4:43:10 PM  

Mrtraveler01: I'm so sick of hearing "happy talk".

How about you guys only give us "hope" when there is actual reason for us to have some hope.


It's going to go away, like a miracle.
 
2020-05-20 4:43:20 PM  
Honestly, who is going to pin their vote on whether or not a vaccine is created in time for the election? Trump is an absolute idiot and moron. If a vaccine is created it will be in spite of him, not because of him
 
2020-05-20 4:44:11 PM  
uh oh!  Pentagon and done it now, haven't they!!
 
2020-05-20 4:46:10 PM  

OldRod: ImpendingCynic: It's only a matter of time for Donnie to declare that the vaccine will be available the second week of November, but only to states that vote for him.

Kinda like that middle-class tax cut he promised just after the mid-terms in 2018?


Don't forget his super duper healthcare plan that he'll totally reveal to us once he's reelected.
 
2020-05-20 4:47:02 PM  
Soup4Bonnie:

That Picture! JFC, I almost expect him to start flapping his arms and singing OOPER DOOPER while Gene Wilder dances around him.
 
2020-05-20 4:47:31 PM  
If you go back to what Trump said during the 2016 campaign, he said "WHINING" not "WINNING".

Traveler's Cheques, Liberaces!
 
2020-05-20 4:49:18 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: uh oh!  Pentagon and done it now, haven't they!!


GROAN

but funnied anyway
 
2020-05-20 4:50:28 PM  

Hey Nurse!: Honestly, who is going to pin their vote on whether or not a vaccine is created in time for the election? Trump is an absolute idiot and moron. If a vaccine is created it will be in spite of him, not because of him


what about when a vaccine is available, but it was developed by a foreign country that is in no rush to deal with our bullshiat.
 
2020-05-20 4:51:32 PM  
Maybe the pgon meant "globally persistent" as in the USA will have a vaccine but the rest of the world won't get it until summer 2021. So that military needs to prep for that. But would everyone else? Just point thermal cameras at people as they come off planes and if someone is warm, tell them to step out of line and then use a pool skimmer to push them into the flamethrower pits.
 
2020-05-20 4:55:49 PM  
Trump will force the FDA to approve some crap in Oct. and nine months later it'll be thalidomide v2.0
 
2020-05-20 4:59:08 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: uh oh!  Pentagon and done it now, haven't they!!


Time to cut the military budget by 50% at least!
 
2020-05-20 4:59:40 PM  
I don't believe in predictions made by Ms. Cleomili Harris, Joe Precog, Betty Oracle, or Sam Soothsayer, so why should I listen to Mark Esper?
 
2020-05-20 5:00:51 PM  

Hey Nurse!: Honestly, who is going to pin their vote on whether or not a vaccine is created in time for the election?


This administration is exactly the sort of morons that would believe that a vaccine coming out just in time for a national vote would sway opinion polls.

Better yet, they're the exact sort of morons that would put together some sort of small shell pharmaceutical company to put together some BS vaccine that doesn't actually do anything and then announce it in time for a national vote and then have that pharmaceutical company fall over themselves about how it wouldn't have been possible had it not been for the efforts of Trump.

These are treacherous assholes to whom have never had real consequences for their actions and realize that, god forbid if that changes the full range of consequences starts at polite pardoning for the sake of a continued democracy to pulling them out of their vehicles as they try to flee Washington D.C. and executing them by dropping parking blocks on their heads.
 
2020-05-20 5:02:52 PM  

Skarekrough: Hey Nurse!: Honestly, who is going to pin their vote on whether or not a vaccine is created in time for the election?

This administration is exactly the sort of morons that would believe that a vaccine coming out just in time for a national vote would sway opinion polls.

Better yet, they're the exact sort of morons that would put together some sort of small shell pharmaceutical company to put together some BS vaccine that doesn't actually do anything and then announce it in time for a national vote and then have that pharmaceutical company fall over themselves about how it wouldn't have been possible had it not been for the efforts of Trump.

These are treacherous assholes to whom have never had real consequences for their actions and realize that, god forbid if that changes the full range of consequences starts at polite pardoning for the sake of a continued democracy to pulling them out of their vehicles as they try to flee Washington D.C. and executing them by dropping parking blocks on their heads.


Accurate, but you forget the part about voter intimidation where they promise a 100% safe and effective vaccine but ONLY if Trump wins, with the explicit threat that states that don't go for Trump will get it withheld.
 
2020-05-20 5:04:52 PM  
More likely, there will be a "vaccine." A rushed, highly questionable, possibly unsafe "vaccine" strongly promoted by Trump and the administration. And we will all have to make a choice as to whether to take it or not, heavily split along partisan lines.

And because everything always has to invert in this timeline, qualified scientists and researchers who say the "vaccine" isn't particularly effective or safe will be called "anti-vaxxers", and we'll be painted as anti-science, nutty, etc. All for the purpose of confusing the muddled 10% swing voters into voting for Trump.
 
2020-05-20 5:09:57 PM  

baorao: Hey Nurse!: Honestly, who is going to pin their vote on whether or not a vaccine is created in time for the election? Trump is an absolute idiot and moron. If a vaccine is created it will be in spite of him, not because of him

what about when a vaccine is available, but it was developed by a foreign country that is in no rush to deal with our bullshiat.


What about when a vaccine is available, but the government has not procured the vials, reagents, syringes and other accoutrements needed to do a full scale mass-vaccination program that doesn't take another 12 months to complete.

I'd be surprised if we have vaccine as a Christmas present in 2021.
 
2020-05-20 5:12:23 PM  

baorao: Hey Nurse!: Honestly, who is going to pin their vote on whether or not a vaccine is created in time for the election? Trump is an absolute idiot and moron. If a vaccine is created it will be in spite of him, not because of him

what about when a vaccine is available, but it was developed by a foreign country that is in no rush to deal with our bullshiat.


We'll slap them with tariffs or build a wall. You know what? I have a better idea. We'll just do another tax cut.
 
2020-05-20 5:12:30 PM  

Corn_Fed: possibly unsafe "vaccine"


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2020-05-20 5:14:37 PM  
It's almost 100,000 dead now. Which would make it the 7th leading cause of death in 2020. And we're not halfway through the year yet.

Alzheimer's killed a little over 120,000 in 2017 (last year I could figures for). Pretty sure the 'rona is gonna blow past that in another month.
 
2020-05-20 5:14:47 PM  

NearCanuck: baorao: Hey Nurse!: Honestly, who is going to pin their vote on whether or not a vaccine is created in time for the election? Trump is an absolute idiot and moron. If a vaccine is created it will be in spite of him, not because of him

what about when a vaccine is available, but it was developed by a foreign country that is in no rush to deal with our bullshiat.

What about when a vaccine is available, but the government has not procured the vials, reagents, syringes and other accoutrements needed to do a full scale mass-vaccination program that doesn't take another 12 months to complete.

I'd be surprised if we have vaccine as a Christmas present in 2021.


Then we can put Jared in charge of Project Airbridge 2, while we read about every billionaire sports owner privately acquiring vaccines so their leagues aren't disrupted.
 
2020-05-20 5:20:26 PM  

Hey Nurse!: Honestly, who is going to pin their vote on whether or not a vaccine is created in time for the election? Trump is an absolute idiot and moron. If a vaccine is created it will be in spite of him, not because of him


This will not stop him from taking sole credit, of course.

I already know Trumpers who justify praise his name for "ending the pandemic," so I know he has a ready-made stable of mongs who will fight to the death to be the first to swab his shroom.
 
2020-05-20 5:22:12 PM  

NearCanuck: I'd be surprised if we have vaccine as a Christmas present in 2021.


If we're lucky it will replace the nugat or the nut clusters in boxes of chocolate.
 
2020-05-20 5:30:07 PM  

Corn_Fed: More likely, there will be a "vaccine." A rushed, highly questionable, possibly unsafe "vaccine" strongly promoted by Trump and the administration. And we will all have to make a choice as to whether to take it or not, heavily split along partisan lines.

And because everything always has to invert in this timeline, qualified scientists and researchers who say the "vaccine" isn't particularly effective or safe will be called "anti-vaxxers", and we'll be painted as anti-science, nutty, etc. All for the purpose of confusing the muddled 10% swing voters into voting for Trump.


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2020-05-20 5:30:37 PM  
An "esper" is an individual with telekinetic/telepathic powers, i.e., Tatsumaki (Tornado) from One Punch Man is an esper.
Fubuki (Blizzard), her sister, is also an esper.
 
2020-05-20 5:31:02 PM  

Corn_Fed: More likely, there will be a "vaccine." A rushed, highly questionable, possibly unsafe "vaccine" strongly promoted by Trump and the administration. And we will all have to make a choice as to whether to take it or not, heavily split along partisan lines.

And because everything always has to invert in this timeline, qualified scientists and researchers who say the "vaccine" isn't particularly effective or safe will be called "anti-vaxxers", and we'll be painted as anti-science, nutty, etc. All for the purpose of confusing the muddled 10% swing voters into voting for Trump.


Does anyone seriously think that he'd give half a runny shiat if a few million people died as a result of a hot shot, if it gave him a temporary ten point boost in national polls? Or a few million in kickbacks to IvankaKorp?

He already plugs treatments that are worse than useless with no regard for human life.  He's not above plugging a broken vaccine.  He's exactly like that guy in WORLD WAR Z who pushed Phalanx, knowing it didn't do a damn thing to prevent Tropical Rabies, and justified to by saying that it created hope and kept down panic, only even more petty and sociopathic.
 
2020-05-20 5:32:13 PM  

AeAe: An "esper" is an individual with telekinetic/telepathic powers, i.e., Tatsumaki (Tornado) from One Punch Man is an esper.
Fubuki (Blizzard), her sister, is also an esper.


So this guy is using a pseudonym? Like a DCU villain?
 
2020-05-20 5:54:28 PM  
Time to fire another IG.
 
2020-05-21 4:57:49 AM  
The most super optimistic vaccine outlook is completion by the end of the year (by the current most promising project), but even if it checks all the boxes, it will be quite some time before there is enough of it to distribute.
 
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