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2020-05-20 12:13:32 PM  
In other news, people still listen to radio. LOL.

KROQ was changing and leading the charge was new brand manager Mike Kaplan - who not-so-coincidentally had been nicknamed "Mike the Show Killer" by jocks at his former station, the aforementioned Alt 98.7. According to sources, Kaplan ordered "Circles" be added to the playlist immediately and mandated that all talent no longer refer to the station as "K-Rock" but rather use its call letters - K-R-O-Q - almost exclusively. The very sound of the word "rock" purportedly offended Kaplan, who not only felt it antiquated, but borderline toxic. "Rock equals death," says a station insider of management's view.

No surprise, sh*tty management kills yet another thing. Like we need any more reminders in this farking country.
 
2020-05-20 12:42:29 PM  
Everyone will love K-RAK, the new replacement.
 
2020-05-20 12:46:48 PM  
When you've spent decades building customer loyalty around a specific brand identity, it's a really dumb idea to throw that identity away.
 
2020-05-20 12:48:02 PM  

bdub77: In other news, people still listen to radio. LOL.

KROQ was changing and leading the charge was new brand manager Mike Kaplan - who not-so-coincidentally had been nicknamed "Mike the Show Killer" by jocks at his former station, the aforementioned Alt 98.7. According to sources, Kaplan ordered "Circles" be added to the playlist immediately and mandated that all talent no longer refer to the station as "K-Rock" but rather use its call letters - K-R-O-Q - almost exclusively. The very sound of the word "rock" purportedly offended Kaplan, who not only felt it antiquated, but borderline toxic. "Rock equals death," says a station insider of management's view.

No surprise, sh*tty management kills yet another thing. Like we need any more reminders in this farking country.


Well, I switched to satellite years ago, but without that option, I sure as shiat would listen to the radio.

"LOL"

Because I'm not gonna stream shiat through my phone, using my data while I'm driving, so I'm not sure what's so "LOL" about people still using a free farking service that doesn't require a data connection. I'm also not going to fark around with my phone while driving, as easy as it is to change music on the radios that are already right there in the dashboard of the car.

"LOL"
 
2020-05-20 12:48:45 PM  
KOME is better anyway.
 
2020-05-20 12:48:46 PM  
WWCK 105.5 in Flint, MI was the groundbreaker in the 70s for "Album Rock" - emulated by big market stations in New York, LA, and elsewhere.

It died in the 80s, when the format switched to pop, and they started their new era with Michael Jackson's Beat It.

Anything that came after it was a pale imitation, at best.
 
2020-05-20 12:50:11 PM  
Between KROQ and KNAC, good times.
 
2020-05-20 12:50:39 PM  
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2020-05-20 12:54:52 PM  
The iconic Los Angeles station is on life support - and it has nothing to do with coronavirus.

Ya think?

Jesus, radio is one of those things that can be run with almost no crew. Hell, and engineer and a DJ are all of the people who need to be in the office at any given time, and that's if you decide to keep going the old fashioned route. I've been listening to radio since 2002 or so that was done remotely. Alice Cooper has done his radio show forever, and does it on tour even. He records his drops, then they add the music that supposed to play. Sirius does the same thing. Their only public studios are really just so the fans can see the talent sometimes. In reality, the majority of their stuff is done with the DJs in home studios.

So yeah, Coronavirus should only affect a radio station due to possible ad revenue reductions, but not lockdowns.
 
2020-05-20 12:55:36 PM  
 
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2020-05-20 12:58:03 PM  

bloobeary: When you've spent decades building customer loyalty around a specific brand identity, it's a really dumb idea to throw that identity away.


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2020-05-20 1:01:30 PM  

LesserEvil: WWCK 105.5 in Flint, MI was the groundbreaker in the 70s for "Album Rock" - emulated by big market stations in New York, LA, and elsewhere.

It died in the 80s, when the format switched to pop, and they started their new era with Michael Jackson's Beat It.

Anything that came after it was a pale imitation, at best.


One of the problems with the AOR format was inconsistency and racism. The stations happily played shiat that wasn't much like rock at all, as long as a white boy or girl was responsible for it. Queen's experiment with light opera, Debbie Harry's attempt at rap. etc., etc.
 
2020-05-20 1:02:09 PM  
I use Spotify, got a 800 song general playlist for driving and several lists for country, punk, r&b, etc. I have unlimited data so that's not a problem. So I really don't need the local stations around here whose shows consist of bro country, sports talk, right wing talk and the top 40 one that doesn't have a live person on it.
 
2020-05-20 1:03:50 PM  
The only indie station in Phoenix is a low-powered station on the west side that is impossible to receive where I am. The commercial alternative station has got to be one of the worst in the country (ironically, the current GM used to be the boss at KROQ).

Thank goodness for Spotify and satellite radio.
 
2020-05-20 1:04:09 PM  
We listen to the radio at work :/
 
2020-05-20 1:05:42 PM  

Mikey1969: bdub77: In other news, people still listen to radio. LOL.

KROQ was changing and leading the charge was new brand manager Mike Kaplan - who not-so-coincidentally had been nicknamed "Mike the Show Killer" by jocks at his former station, the aforementioned Alt 98.7. According to sources, Kaplan ordered "Circles" be added to the playlist immediately and mandated that all talent no longer refer to the station as "K-Rock" but rather use its call letters - K-R-O-Q - almost exclusively. The very sound of the word "rock" purportedly offended Kaplan, who not only felt it antiquated, but borderline toxic. "Rock equals death," says a station insider of management's view.

No surprise, sh*tty management kills yet another thing. Like we need any more reminders in this farking country.

Well, I switched to satellite years ago, but without that option, I sure as shiat would listen to the radio.

"LOL"

Because I'm not gonna stream shiat through my phone, using my data while I'm driving, so I'm not sure what's so "LOL" about people still using a free farking service that doesn't require a data connection. I'm also not going to fark around with my phone while driving, as easy as it is to change music on the radios that are already right there in the dashboard of the car.

"LOL"


What shiat wireless plan do you have these days that doesnt have unlimited data on it?
 
2020-05-20 1:08:26 PM  
Oh, I forgot to mention the Coronavirus might have not killed alternative radio, but it might just have killed sports talk radio.
 
2020-05-20 1:08:31 PM  

Mikey1969: bdub77: In other news, people still listen to radio. LOL.

KROQ was changing and leading the charge was new brand manager Mike Kaplan - who not-so-coincidentally had been nicknamed "Mike the Show Killer" by jocks at his former station, the aforementioned Alt 98.7. According to sources, Kaplan ordered "Circles" be added to the playlist immediately and mandated that all talent no longer refer to the station as "K-Rock" but rather use its call letters - K-R-O-Q - almost exclusively. The very sound of the word "rock" purportedly offended Kaplan, who not only felt it antiquated, but borderline toxic. "Rock equals death," says a station insider of management's view.

No surprise, sh*tty management kills yet another thing. Like we need any more reminders in this farking country.

Well, I switched to satellite years ago, but without that option, I sure as shiat would listen to the radio.

"LOL"

Because I'm not gonna stream shiat through my phone, using my data while I'm driving, so I'm not sure what's so "LOL" about people still using a free farking service that doesn't require a data connection. I'm also not going to fark around with my phone while driving, as easy as it is to change music on the radios that are already right there in the dashboard of the car.

"LOL"


That's great. I havent listened to a radio station in 5 years, don't miss it at all.
 
2020-05-20 1:19:44 PM  
When I was 13 years old, I called into Loveline, and asked if it was true that the green Skittles caused impotence (they don't). Ricki Rachtman was still there, I don't remember if Adam Corolla was the third man yet. It wasn't long after that Ricki left.
 
2020-05-20 1:32:30 PM  
I blame Ronald Reagan.
 
2020-05-20 1:32:57 PM  

bdub77: Mikey1969: bdub77: In other news, people still listen to radio. LOL.

KROQ was changing and leading the charge was new brand manager Mike Kaplan - who not-so-coincidentally had been nicknamed "Mike the Show Killer" by jocks at his former station, the aforementioned Alt 98.7. According to sources, Kaplan ordered "Circles" be added to the playlist immediately and mandated that all talent no longer refer to the station as "K-Rock" but rather use its call letters - K-R-O-Q - almost exclusively. The very sound of the word "rock" purportedly offended Kaplan, who not only felt it antiquated, but borderline toxic. "Rock equals death," says a station insider of management's view.

No surprise, sh*tty management kills yet another thing. Like we need any more reminders in this farking country.

Well, I switched to satellite years ago, but without that option, I sure as shiat would listen to the radio.

"LOL"

Because I'm not gonna stream shiat through my phone, using my data while I'm driving, so I'm not sure what's so "LOL" about people still using a free farking service that doesn't require a data connection. I'm also not going to fark around with my phone while driving, as easy as it is to change music on the radios that are already right there in the dashboard of the car.

"LOL"

That's great. I havent listened to a radio station in 5 years, don't miss it at all.


Good thing that you are the cultural representative for the rest of humanity. If you don't listen to the radio, only losers do, right?

Jesus, you really think you're that important?
 
2020-05-20 1:39:48 PM  

Wellon Dowd: I blame Ronald Reagan.


Oops, that was reflexive; Reagan "only" eliminated the Fairness Doctrine. Clinton swept away ownership restrictions.
 
2020-05-20 1:41:25 PM  
I have an older car with just a cd player, which hasn't been the same since i attempted to play the first Drottnar album. Funny, out of all the weird music i've fed that thing over the years, one would think it could handle extremely technical blackened metalcore played by Christians in soviet WWII uniforms.

So until i get that sucker fixed or replaced, it's radio or silence. I go back and forth between the classic rock channels and the OSU classical station and shut if off it nothing grabs me. Usually Kool 101.7 has something to offer.
 
2020-05-20 1:46:12 PM  
Left Cali 25 years ago.  Are there any rock stations left in LA?  KMET and KLOS switched formats eons ago.  There used to be a metal station somewhere at the end of the dial.
 
2020-05-20 1:47:34 PM  
some good memories with Rodney on the ROQ, Mike Raphone, Jed The Fish, Frazer Smith
 
2020-05-20 1:50:37 PM  

DesertCoyote: The only indie station in Phoenix is a low-powered station on the west side that is impossible to receive where I am. The commercial alternative station has got to be one of the worst in the country (ironically, the current GM used to be the boss at KROQ).

Thank goodness for Spotify and satellite radio.

KCDX 103.1 isn't bad but at least it doesn't have commericials. I can pick it up all over the East Valley.

 
2020-05-20 1:53:47 PM  

Mikey1969: The iconic Los Angeles station is on life support - and it has nothing to do with coronavirus.

Ya think?

Jesus, radio is one of those things that can be run with almost no crew. Hell, and engineer and a DJ are all of the people who need to be in the office at any given time, and that's if you decide to keep going the old fashioned route. I've been listening to radio since 2002 or so that was done remotely. Alice Cooper has done his radio show forever, and does it on tour even. He records his drops, then they add the music that supposed to play. Sirius does the same thing. Their only public studios are really just so the fans can see the talent sometimes. In reality, the majority of their stuff is done with the DJs in home studios.

So yeah, Coronavirus should only affect a radio station due to possible ad revenue reductions, but not lockdowns.


Hell, us DJs at public and college radio also worked the board ourselves. The only time we needed an engineer was when having a band play live in the studio.
Commercial radio DJs are spoiled.
 
2020-05-20 1:55:07 PM  

dereksmalls: some good memories with Rodney on the ROQ, Mike Raphone, Jed The Fish, Frazer Smith


I could've sworn I heard Sluggo on 95.5 a few months ago.
 
2020-05-20 1:55:28 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Wellon Dowd: I blame Ronald Reagan.

Oops, that was reflexive; Reagan "only" eliminated the Fairness Doctrine. Clinton swept away ownership restrictions.


I know this a dumb question since Clinton was evil, but why would he do that?
 
2020-05-20 2:03:48 PM  

Mikey1969: Good thing that you are the cultural representative for the rest of humanity. If you don't listen to the radio, only losers do, right?

Jesus, you really think you're that important?


I really think you're just trolling me so feel free to continue to rage against whatever the fark you want but like the radio, I'm not listening to you any more. Bye.
 
2020-05-20 2:11:06 PM  

beb004: DesertCoyote: The only indie station in Phoenix is a low-powered station on the west side that is impossible to receive where I am. The commercial alternative station has got to be one of the worst in the country (ironically, the current GM used to be the boss at KROQ).

Thank goodness for Spotify and satellite radio.

KCDX 103.1 isn't bad but at least it doesn't have commericials. I can pick it up all over the East Valley.


Yeah, KCDX is for classic rock, not alternative/indie, but still a good choice. I was mentioning KWSS 93.9, which is pretty much static on the east side.

There's also KROQ's HD2 station on 94.5-2, for the few who know how what HD Radio is.
 
2020-05-20 2:11:24 PM  
Target 13 - Rodney on the ROQ
Rodney on the Roq
Youtube 89o0sF5AWGc
 
2020-05-20 2:12:12 PM  
KROQ died in '92 when grunge became popular.
 
2020-05-20 2:13:24 PM  

bdub77: In other news, people still listen to radio. LOL.

KROQ was changing and leading the charge was new brand manager Mike Kaplan - who not-so-coincidentally had been nicknamed "Mike the Show Killer" by jocks at his former station, the aforementioned Alt 98.7. According to sources, Kaplan ordered "Circles" be added to the playlist immediately and mandated that all talent no longer refer to the station as "K-Rock" but rather use its call letters - K-R-O-Q - almost exclusively. The very sound of the word "rock" purportedly offended Kaplan, who not only felt it antiquated, but borderline toxic. "Rock equals death," says a station insider of management's view.

No surprise, sh*tty management kills yet another thing. Like we need any more reminders in this farking country.


'Airheads' nails the music industry
Youtube RQIGUwo36oA


They made a documentary about this
 
2020-05-20 2:15:59 PM  

Mikey1969: The iconic Los Angeles station is on life support - and it has nothing to do with coronavirus.

Ya think?

Jesus, radio is one of those things that can be run with almost no crew. Hell, and engineer and a DJ are all of the people who need to be in the office at any given time, and that's if you decide to keep going the old fashioned route. I've been listening to radio since 2002 or so that was done remotely. Alice Cooper has done his radio show forever, and does it on tour even. He records his drops, then they add the music that supposed to play. Sirius does the same thing. Their only public studios are really just so the fans can see the talent sometimes. In reality, the majority of their stuff is done with the DJs in home studios.

So yeah, Coronavirus should only affect a radio station due to possible ad revenue reductions, but not lockdowns.


Kinda like this:

WKRP in Cincinnati S03E07 Bah, Humbug
Youtube SZh-YrbZUgs
 
2020-05-20 2:16:17 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Between KROQ and KNAC, good times.


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2020-05-20 2:17:14 PM  
"...and mandated that all talent no longer refer to the station as "K-Rock" but rather use its call letters - K-R-O-Q - almost exclusively. The very sound of the word "rock" purportedly offended Kaplan, who not only felt it antiquated, but borderline toxic. "Rock equals death," says a station insider of management's view."

KROQ - The ROQ is to be pronounced as in "roquefort".  The proper pronounciation is to be "Kroak"
 
2020-05-20 2:23:15 PM  
Bill plays Foghat for comatose Jimmy.
Youtube juAyTXxvEZE
 
2020-05-20 2:23:32 PM  

Imaginativescreenname: I have an older car with just a cd player, which hasn't been the same since i attempted to play the first Drottnar album. Funny, out of all the weird music i've fed that thing over the years, one would think it could handle extremely technical blackened metalcore played by Christians in soviet WWII uniforms.

So until i get that sucker fixed or replaced, it's radio or silence. I go back and forth between the classic rock channels and the OSU classical station and shut if off it nothing grabs me. Usually Kool 101.7 has something to offer.


Maybe try an FM transmitter for playing music on your phone thru the radio? I have one for my Focus, since it just missed out on getting "smart" features (and working well on ethanol gas). Would have replaced it, but Ford being Ford, didn't make the radio a single DIN or a double DIN sized unit but a 1.8 DIN size (on purpose so you had to go to them for a new unit). I refuse to cut the dash for the larger size and single DIN radios just look silly in it.
Also they put two screws on the left side but only one on the right to hold the face plate to the main unit. Bad design there, Ford, really bad design. (You can guess which size the radio broke at after getting rear ended. Good thing gaffer tape works...mostly.
 
2020-05-20 2:23:50 PM  
Entercom is just softening it up to sell it to Educational Media Foundation to convert it to a Christian station.
 
2020-05-20 2:24:52 PM  

forgotmydamnusername: LesserEvil: WWCK 105.5 in Flint, MI was the groundbreaker in the 70s for "Album Rock" - emulated by big market stations in New York, LA, and elsewhere.

It died in the 80s, when the format switched to pop, and they started their new era with Michael Jackson's Beat It.

Anything that came after it was a pale imitation, at best.

One of the problems with the AOR format was inconsistency and racism. The stations happily played shiat that wasn't much like rock at all, as long as a white boy or girl was responsible for it. Queen's experiment with light opera, Debbie Harry's attempt at rap. etc., etc.


This is the first time I've ever heard that sort of issue raised. I get where the criticism comes from, but I also remember that at the time, black artists edging into what might be considered "rock" was, in most of our minds, more "pop" than rock. Prince and Michael Jackson were fine to listen to, but didn't fit the mold of Supertramp, Queen, Styx, Pink Floyd, etc...  I don't think there was any conscious effort to exclude black artists (plenty of Hedrix got played, for example, and I don't doubt Living Colour got a lot of airplay before WWCK switched formats), it's just the way things worked out.
 
2020-05-20 2:28:41 PM  

bluorangefyre: Entercom is just softening it up to sell it to Educational Media Foundation to convert it to a Christian station.


EMF already has an LA signal at 100.3, which has gets better reception than 106.7.
 
2020-05-20 2:29:45 PM  

ladyfish2000: Left Cali 25 years ago.  Are there any rock stations left in LA?  KMET and KLOS switched formats eons ago.  There used to be a metal station somewhere at the end of the dial.


KLOS still plays rock.  There is no metal station.  I head to BFE on a work trip and there's two metal stations on the dial, but in LA there's nothing despite being the second largest media market in the US

DesertCoyote: for the few who know how what HD Radio is.


I rarely find cars with stereos that even support it
 
2020-05-20 2:34:18 PM  

bhcompy: ladyfish2000: Left Cali 25 years ago.  Are there any rock stations left in LA?  KMET and KLOS switched formats eons ago.  There used to be a metal station somewhere at the end of the dial.

KLOS still plays rock.  There is no metal station.  I head to BFE on a work trip and there's two metal stations on the dial, but in LA there's nothing despite being the second largest media market in the US

DesertCoyote: for the few who know how what HD Radio is.

I rarely find cars with stereos that even support it


There's more cars out there with HD than you think. Automakers hide the feature and/or shut it off at the factory because of the money SiriusXM gives them.
 
2020-05-20 2:36:47 PM  

DesertCoyote: bluorangefyre: Entercom is just softening it up to sell it to Educational Media Foundation to convert it to a Christian station.

EMF already has an LA signal at 100.3, which has gets better reception than 106.7.


OK, so their usual strategy of killing legendary rock stations won't work.  Unless, of course, they use it as a signal repeater.  That's what the folks that bought our local stations did.  We had a rock station that played new rock (the other one doesn't) and it got turned into a repeater for a pop station we could already receive.
 
2020-05-20 2:37:01 PM  

Mikey1969: Because I'm not gonna stream shiat through my phone, using my data while I'm driving, so I'm not sure what's so "LOL" about people still using a free farking service that doesn't require a data connection. I'm also not going to fark around with my phone while driving, as easy as it is to change music on the radios that are already right there in the dashboard of the car.


Grandpa Mikey, we need to talk about technology.

This phone that I have? It will hold a 1TB mSD card. That is roughly 172,032 albums worth of music provided all 1TB is available without filesystem overhead. If I listened to nothing but the music on that mSD card for my roundtrip commute everyday or when I am out and about, I would still not get through 1/8 of it before I died of natural causes at the national average.

Moreover, things have come a long, long way in automotive audio technology. I do not need to ever touch my phone to access this music or any function on my phone. In my '01 vintage vehicle, I have an aftermarket 2 din unit that can do either Apply Play or Android Auto. It has a mic and I can just talk to it, telling it to play whatever I want, to skip, to find a certain album, or even a certain song. You can do that, too, if you wanted.

Now, is there a particular cloud you want to yell at or do you want to wait until after you fark around with your radio and tie an onion to your belt?
 
2020-05-20 2:48:58 PM  

N4LG4s: Dr Jack Badofsky: Between KROQ and KNAC, good times.

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I also kinda miss KQLZ 100.1 Pirate Radio.
 
2020-05-20 2:56:13 PM  

Mikey1969: The iconic Los Angeles station is on life support - and it has nothing to do with coronavirus.

Ya think?

Jesus, radio is one of those things that can be run with almost no crew. Hell, and engineer and a DJ are all of the people who need to be in the office at any given time, and that's if you decide to keep going the old fashioned route. I've been listening to radio since 2002 or so that was done remotely. Alice Cooper has done his radio show forever, and does it on tour even. He records his drops, then they add the music that supposed to play. Sirius does the same thing. Their only public studios are really just so the fans can see the talent sometimes. In reality, the majority of their stuff is done with the DJs in home studios.

So yeah, Coronavirus should only affect a radio station due to possible ad revenue reductions, but not lockdowns.


Sure, a show that just plays music and features the occasional guest may be easy to run.  But KROQ had the #1 morning show, which is far more complex. It takes a lot of behind-the-scenes production, talent coordination, editorial, creative development, writing, event planning, etc.  That gets expensive, especially when it's filling up an hour or two of content 5 days a week.
 
2020-05-20 3:00:15 PM  

bdub77: Mikey1969: Good thing that you are the cultural representative for the rest of humanity. If you don't listen to the radio, only losers do, right?

Jesus, you really think you're that important?

I really think you're just trolling me so feel free to continue to rage against whatever the fark you want but like the radio, I'm not listening to you any more. Bye.


That's because you don't know what "trolling" means. YOU waltz in like the self important farkhead you are, and someone calls you on it. That's not "trolling", even by the idiotic expansion people have given the definition nowadays.
 
2020-05-20 3:03:00 PM  

atedogonce: Mikey1969: The iconic Los Angeles station is on life support - and it has nothing to do with coronavirus.

Ya think?

Jesus, radio is one of those things that can be run with almost no crew. Hell, and engineer and a DJ are all of the people who need to be in the office at any given time, and that's if you decide to keep going the old fashioned route. I've been listening to radio since 2002 or so that was done remotely. Alice Cooper has done his radio show forever, and does it on tour even. He records his drops, then they add the music that supposed to play. Sirius does the same thing. Their only public studios are really just so the fans can see the talent sometimes. In reality, the majority of their stuff is done with the DJs in home studios.

So yeah, Coronavirus should only affect a radio station due to possible ad revenue reductions, but not lockdowns.

Sure, a show that just plays music and features the occasional guest may be easy to run.  But KROQ had the #1 morning show, which is far more complex. It takes a lot of behind-the-scenes production, talent coordination, editorial, creative development, writing, event planning, etc.  That gets expensive, especially when it's filling up an hour or two of content 5 days a week.


LOL, morning shows don't have "talent". They have guys who think they're funny and have a sound board to put in effects. Otherwise, it's all shiat that can STILL be adjusted to a remote setup.

But I digress...

Look, if TV shows like Kimmel, Fallon, et al. can do it, a radio show can farking do it, too. So my point stands, it doesn't require an army to put radio on the air, so it's pretty obvious that lockdown orders and quarantining aren't going to kill a radio station.
 
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