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2020-05-20 9:09:47 AM  
Somebody will be looking for their million dollars in drug money. And I'm sure the police would like to talk to about $100k they lost. And the sheriff is surprised that some one would lose $10k and not report it to the police.

/ drug mules use postal service
// send drugs and money back and forth.
 
2020-05-20 9:15:04 AM  
Caroline County family finds nearly $1M in cash in middle of road


In the middle of the road you see the darnedest things...
 
2020-05-20 9:31:20 AM  
I would have kept it. Look for tracking devices first friendo.
 
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2020-05-20 10:26:40 AM  
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2020-05-20 10:34:11 AM  
Something like this ever happen to me? Yup. I'm turning it into the authorities. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I stole something that didn't belong to me.

Finder's keepers?  I've never subscribed to that rule.

If its not mine. I'm not touching it.
 
2020-05-20 10:38:36 AM  
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"I think you have something of mine. "
 
2020-05-20 10:39:09 AM  
If it was up to... I don´t know, a couple grand, I'd return the money too, but a million bucks??? Fark NO, sorry, but that's a life-changing amount of cash.
 
2020-05-20 10:45:32 AM  
I wonder where they hid the other 2 bags they found.
 
2020-05-20 10:46:11 AM  
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2020-05-20 10:49:41 AM  
Why do my good times never seem so good?
 
2020-05-20 10:50:28 AM  

steklo: Something like this ever happen to me? Yup. I'm turning it into the authorities. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I stole something that didn't belong to me.

Finder's keepers?  I've never subscribed to that rule.

If its not mine. I'm not touching it.


The Virginia law on finders / keepers basically says, if you know who owns the thing you found or you can reasonably identify the person who owns the thing you found, you have to return it or else you can be charged with theft.  If you don't know who owns it and you can't reasonably identify the person who owns it, you can keep it.  A good write-up with some caselaw is here: http://crimlaw.blogspot.com/201​8/07/mi​slaid-lost-property-stealing.html

In this case, the picture in the article shows that one of the bags had a bar code on it.  Calling the cops was the correct call for these folks, as I wouldn't want to make the case that the owner of the case wasn't knowable.

Having found it, and contacted the police, a five year clock starts running.  If the owner isn't identified within that period or the owner doesn't claim the cash, then they're entitled to keep it.
 
2020-05-20 10:51:26 AM  
Yep. My dealer gets all his stuff thru the postal service.  When he told me that I was amazed.
 
2020-05-20 10:52:11 AM  
The family, out for a Saturday afternoon drive

Wait, who does this? Is it in the 1950s again?
 
2020-05-20 10:59:24 AM  

Orallo: If it was up to... I don´t know, a couple grand, I'd return the money too, but a million bucks??? Fark NO, sorry, but that's a life-changing amount of cash.


I'd probably keep it too. Anyone officially moving that kind of money has insurance. Anyone unofficially moving that kind of money can afford the risk of losing a million here and there.

Though, if it was an official movement the people who lost it (armored truck employees) will be assumed to be the thieves. My uncle worked for 21 years at an armored car company, most of it as management and an investigator. Lost money? Inside job. Robbery? Inside job. Like, 99% of things where money went missing were inside jobs.

After keeping it you have to figure out how to launder it. I've never put much thought into that but you surely can't show up with $1 million cash to the bank and just deposit it without questions being asked.
 
2020-05-20 10:59:27 AM  

patrick767: The family, out for a Saturday afternoon drive

Wait, who does this? Is it in the 1950s again?


Sorta. People baking their own bread, making their own masks, mending clothes instead of going shopping for new, families are even -gasp!- sitting down to regular meals together.

It's like Friday night in Amish country just, you know, all the time.
 
2020-05-20 11:01:54 AM  
Better people than me. If I found a million in cash. You'd never see my harry ass again.
 
2020-05-20 11:02:09 AM  

solokumba: Yep. My dealer gets all his stuff thru the postal service.  When he told me that I was amazed.


long ago bud of mine, you visited his house you left with a nice new Thermos ice chest in it's manufacturer box. there was no shortage of them now empty in the basement and they had to keep moving out the door.
 
2020-05-20 11:04:16 AM  
I would love to see who claims this...if at all.
 
2020-05-20 11:04:57 AM  

Warthog: Having found it, and contacted the police, a five year clock starts running.


Yes, I heard of that rule.

But yeah in this case, someone might be looking for that missing cash. If its in a bag, with a bar code? Chances are it belongs to an organization that has an inventory system. They'll know when it left the facility and know when it didn't arrive to where it was going. Authorities will be investigating. To what extent? Not sure.

Sure in my dreams it would be great to find that much cash. But in reality, I don't see any good coming from it.

Bad karma, etc...
 
2020-05-20 11:05:41 AM  

Walker: I would have kept it. Look for tracking devices first friendo.


The signal stops here at First National Ban.. shiat!
 
2020-05-20 11:17:19 AM  
A banks money? Yeah I'm keeping that.
 
2020-05-20 11:19:36 AM  

steklo: Something like this ever happen to me? Yup. I'm turning it into the authorities. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I stole something that didn't belong to me.

Finder's keepers?  I've never subscribed to that rule.

If its not mine. I'm not touching it.


This land isn't your's, and you stay. ROFLMAO.
 
2020-05-20 11:21:18 AM  

Warthog: steklo: Something like this ever happen to me? Yup. I'm turning it into the authorities. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I stole something that didn't belong to me.

Finder's keepers?  I've never subscribed to that rule.

If its not mine. I'm not touching it.

The Virginia law on finders / keepers basically says, if you know who owns the thing you found or you can reasonably identify the person who owns the thing you found, you have to return it or else you can be charged with theft.  If you don't know who owns it and you can't reasonably identify the person who owns it, you can keep it.  A good write-up with some caselaw is here: http://crimlaw.blogspot.com/2018​/07/mislaid-lost-property-stealing.htm​l

In this case, the picture in the article shows that one of the bags had a bar code on it.  Calling the cops was the correct call for these folks, as I wouldn't want to make the case that the owner of the case wasn't knowable.

Having found it, and contacted the police, a five year clock starts running.  If the owner isn't identified within that period or the owner doesn't claim the cash, then they're entitled to keep it.


?????????????? How would anyone prove there was a barcode when they found the money? ?????
🤔
 
2020-05-20 11:24:49 AM  
This odd. If that had been cocaine, they'd not be believed that they found it.
People are odd. we're skeptical of some things when we should probably be skeptical of all things or stop being skeptical asses.
\(◎o◎)/

why is it everything is a simple coincidence except when you're accused of something then those coincidences are proof that you did?
🤔
 
2020-05-20 11:26:20 AM  

Orallo: If it was up to... I don´t know, a couple grand, I'd return the money too, but a million bucks??? Fark NO, sorry, but that's a life-changing amount of cash.


Best thing to do is turn it in, and generally if no one claims it after a certain amount of time, you get to keep it, and it's all nice and legally yours at that point.

The laws on that vary from state to state, of course, but in my state, for cash over $5,000, the waiting period is 3 years.
 
2020-05-20 11:35:22 AM  

waxbeans: steklo: Something like this ever happen to me? Yup. I'm turning it into the authorities. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I stole something that didn't belong to me.

Finder's keepers?  I've never subscribed to that rule.

If its not mine. I'm not touching it.

This land isn't your's, and you stay. ROFLMAO.


How do you know it's not his?
 
2020-05-20 11:47:33 AM  

mrmopar5287: Orallo: If it was up to... I don´t know, a couple grand, I'd return the money too, but a million bucks??? Fark NO, sorry, but that's a life-changing amount of cash.

I'd probably keep it too. Anyone officially moving that kind of money has insurance. Anyone unofficially moving that kind of money can afford the risk of losing a million here and there.

Though, if it was an official movement the people who lost it (armored truck employees) will be assumed to be the thieves. My uncle worked for 21 years at an armored car company, most of it as management and an investigator. Lost money? Inside job. Robbery? Inside job. Like, 99% of things where money went missing were inside jobs.

After keeping it you have to figure out how to launder it. I've never put much thought into that but you surely can't show up with $1 million cash to the bank and just deposit it without questions being asked.


About 25 years ago in college... my economics professor: "the best place to launder a lot of money is to aquire a carwash"

Most of the students thought he was being literal and laughed it off... hahaha... reeeal funny.
 
2020-05-20 11:49:57 AM  
The right thing to do in this situation is to quietly go off grid, not return the money.
 
2020-05-20 11:53:10 AM  
If they gave back a million dollars so as not to appear suspicious I wonder how much they originally found.
 
2020-05-20 11:53:56 AM  

Orallo: mrmopar5287: Orallo: If it was up to... I don´t know, a couple grand, I'd return the money too, but a million bucks??? Fark NO, sorry, but that's a life-changing amount of cash.

I'd probably keep it too. Anyone officially moving that kind of money has insurance. Anyone unofficially moving that kind of money can afford the risk of losing a million here and there.

Though, if it was an official movement the people who lost it (armored truck employees) will be assumed to be the thieves. My uncle worked for 21 years at an armored car company, most of it as management and an investigator. Lost money? Inside job. Robbery? Inside job. Like, 99% of things where money went missing were inside jobs.

After keeping it you have to figure out how to launder it. I've never put much thought into that but you surely can't show up with $1 million cash to the bank and just deposit it without questions being asked.

About 25 years ago in college... my economics professor: "the best place to launder a lot of money is to aquire a carwash"

Most of the students thought he was being literal and laughed it off... hahaha... reeeal funny.


Car Washes, Laundromats, Traveling Carnivals, and Trade Shows provide unlimited opportunity to launder money.
 
2020-05-20 11:58:46 AM  

Orallo: mrmopar5287: Orallo: If it was up to... I don´t know, a couple grand, I'd return the money too, but a million bucks??? Fark NO, sorry, but that's a life-changing amount of cash.

I'd probably keep it too. Anyone officially moving that kind of money has insurance. Anyone unofficially moving that kind of money can afford the risk of losing a million here and there.

Though, if it was an official movement the people who lost it (armored truck employees) will be assumed to be the thieves. My uncle worked for 21 years at an armored car company, most of it as management and an investigator. Lost money? Inside job. Robbery? Inside job. Like, 99% of things where money went missing were inside jobs.

After keeping it you have to figure out how to launder it. I've never put much thought into that but you surely can't show up with $1 million cash to the bank and just deposit it without questions being asked.

About 25 years ago in college... my economics professor: "the best place to launder a lot of money is to aquire a carwash"

Most of the students thought he was being literal and laughed it off... hahaha... reeeal funny.


I was thinking laundromat. Someplace that takes in lots of cash, so it's similar to a car wash.

But I don't want to pay taxes. How do I get that money into my accounts free of that?

Can I walk into a financial services place and open a huge Roth IRA with that cash?
 
2020-05-20 12:17:01 PM  
From a different article with at least one more detail relevant to Fark's interests...

"Caroline Sheriff's Maj. Scott Moser said authorities have since determined where the money was headed, but are still trying to figure out how it ended up in the middle of a road in Goochland County."
 
2020-05-20 12:25:07 PM  

steklo: Something like this ever happen to me? Yup. I'm turning it into the authorities. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I stole something that didn't belong to me.

Finder's keepers?  I've never subscribed to that rule.

If its not mine. I'm not touching it.


That's a great way to end up with a record and justifiably so. Regardless of how much money it is, you're obligated to return it. Ethics don't go out the window just because it's a bigger pile of cash.

We're all paying for that kind of selfish primate behavior. Banks either pass the cost onto their other customers or file a claim with insurance, in which case we're still all paying because those insurance companies have to adjust premiums accordingly. Plus, extra tax dollars are wasted filing reports and investigating.

There's nothing free in life...you pay for everything you get and sometimes the rest of us do, too.

I don't give a shiat if it's my best friend's money, a bank's money or some dope dealers threw it out the window during a chase. If I didn't make it, it's not mine. I don't want the consequences.
 
2020-05-20 12:25:18 PM  

mrmopar5287: Orallo: mrmopar5287: Orallo: If it was up to... I don´t know, a couple grand, I'd return the money too, but a million bucks??? Fark NO, sorry, but that's a life-changing amount of cash.

I'd probably keep it too. Anyone officially moving that kind of money has insurance. Anyone unofficially moving that kind of money can afford the risk of losing a million here and there.

Though, if it was an official movement the people who lost it (armored truck employees) will be assumed to be the thieves. My uncle worked for 21 years at an armored car company, most of it as management and an investigator. Lost money? Inside job. Robbery? Inside job. Like, 99% of things where money went missing were inside jobs.

After keeping it you have to figure out how to launder it. I've never put much thought into that but you surely can't show up with $1 million cash to the bank and just deposit it without questions being asked.

About 25 years ago in college... my economics professor: "the best place to launder a lot of money is to aquire a carwash"

Most of the students thought he was being literal and laughed it off... hahaha... reeeal funny.

I was thinking laundromat. Someplace that takes in lots of cash, so it's similar to a car wash.

But I don't want to pay taxes. How do I get that money into my accounts free of that?

Can I walk into a financial services place and open a huge Roth IRA with that cash?


From what I've read & been told any deposits over $10k are reported to the IRS.

So depositing $9500 once a week for two years would get you there.  Don't really know how that would be looked at by anyone watching this type of thing though.

Buying things with $10k in cash gets reported too, so don't make large purchases that way, at least not in the US.
 
2020-05-20 12:29:38 PM  

khatores: . If I didn't make it, it's not mine. I don't want the consequences.


I remember once I found $20 in a parking lot. There was no one else around. It must've been dropped by someone and blew my way. I picked it up, looked around and didn't see anyone. The stores were all closing and I figured if I gave it to a cashier, they would just pocket it.

Normally I would've kept it but this time, didn't feel right about it. I wound up giving it to an animal rescue organization the following day as a gift.
 
2020-05-20 12:32:45 PM  
Was working in a basement... old heating system, using metal pipe & ductwork.. installing a heat pump system and running flex from the trunk to the new floor vents, and found an old cigar box stashed between the joists.. checked it out, and it was full of cash.. old cash.  Silver certificates and all that, wrapped in neat little bands.  The owners bought the house from their parents when said parents moved to a retirement community... took the box upstairs and handed it to them, and went back into the basement.  Heard lots of 'OMG' and 'Holy Shait', and an announcement of "back soon"..  apparently they took it to their parents, who split it with them.. I got an envelope with 20 hundreds in it.   Party Time !   They said there was 40G+ in the box, and worth more due to the age of the bills...  on a different job, was in the crawlspace under a house and found a 5 gallon bucket full of tools.. asked the owners who had been the last people to work on their system and looked at the invoice.. tech,s name was on the ticket, so I called his company and had them get him to call me.. told him what I found, and he was there in 20 minutes.. happy guy !
 
2020-05-20 12:39:29 PM  

Cardinal Ximenez: So depositing $9500 once a week for two years would get you there.  Don't really know how that would be looked at by anyone watching this type of thing though.


Oh, that gets looked at. It's a crime. "Structuring" your deposits or withdrawals to avoid IRS reporting requirements is a crime. Ask Dennis Hastert about that.
 
2020-05-20 12:43:07 PM  
CSB time. Worked in sales for a family owned business when I was just out of college & had someone buy $45k worth of what we were selling. They came in the next day with a shoe box of rolled bills, which they said that they had recently inherited.

I took the cash back to the mgr who came out & talked with the customers & had to fill out a form.   We took the cash directly to the bank afterwords & didn't think anything more until the home office called months later.  Apparently we had been used by some drug dealers to launder money.

We had to give descriptions of the customers to local police narcotics but we didn't have security cameras or anything at the store.  Nothing ever happened as far as we knew & the mgr & owners told us if it happened again to do nothing different as we followed the rules.  So the fact that we took drug money didn't really faze the southern baptist owners, they just were happy to take the cash.
 
2020-05-20 12:46:21 PM  

Cardinal Ximenez: From what I've read & been told any deposits over $10k are reported to the IRS.

So depositing $9500 once a week for two years would get you there.  Don't really know how that would be looked at by anyone watching this type of thing though.

Buying things with $10k in cash gets reported too, so don't make large purchases that way, at least not in the US.


Yes, it is reported by the person that took the cash on a form 8300.

No, It is $10,000 in cash or money orders in any 12 month period. You'd need quite a few years to deposit $1 million.

There is a finite limit to the cash you can legally carry out of the country legally. I believe it is $10,000.
 
2020-05-20 12:47:30 PM  

steklo: khatores: . If I didn't make it, it's not mine. I don't want the consequences.

I remember once I found $20 in a parking lot. There was no one else around. It must've been dropped by someone and blew my way. I picked it up, looked around and didn't see anyone. The stores were all closing and I figured if I gave it to a cashier, they would just pocket it.

Normally I would've kept it but this time, didn't feel right about it. I wound up giving it to an animal rescue organization the following day as a gift.


I would think that's reasonable...it's probably impossible to track down whose it is. I like the idea of donating the money unless you were on your last dime or something.

I mostly just take issue with people saying it's okay to keep money lost by a bank or other faceless entity because it doesn't matter. That could be someone's ass on the line and we all pay for it in the end.
 
2020-05-20 2:10:13 PM  

Yellow Beard: There is a finite limit to the cash you can legally carry out of the country legally. I believe it is $10,000.


Undeclared it's 10K. You can be a rich fark with a case full of hundreds on a private jet. Just have documentation and fill out the forms.

If I found that on a rural road with no witnesses or cameras. Well it'd be hard not to ride it out.

I knew an armored car driver that accidentally threw out around 100k (stocking an ATM), went back tracing his route, it had been sitting in the trash the whole time. Thankfully some homeless person wasn't checking for cans in that time.
 
2020-05-20 2:15:38 PM  
Idiots
 
2020-05-20 2:17:22 PM  

steklo: Something like this ever happen to me? Yup. I'm turning it into the authorities. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I stole something that didn't belong to me.

Finder's keepers?  I've never subscribed to that rule.

If its not mine. I'm not touching it.


"Official story"
 
2020-05-20 2:20:38 PM  

justanotherfarkinfarker: Yellow Beard: There is a finite limit to the cash you can legally carry out of the country legally. I believe it is $10,000.

Undeclared it's 10K. You can be a rich fark with a case full of hundreds on a private jet. Just have documentation and fill out the forms.

If I found that on a rural road with no witnesses or cameras. Well it'd be hard not to ride it out.

I knew an armored car driver that accidentally threw out around 100k (stocking an ATM), went back tracing his route, it had been sitting in the trash the whole time. Thankfully some homeless person wasn't checking for cans in that time.


Once you declare it, you are in the same trouble with explaining where it came from.
 
2020-05-20 2:22:08 PM  

xxBirdMadGirlxx: It's like Friday night in Amish country just, you know, all the time.


Take the buggy over to Jebidiah's, spend the night drinking, and pass out on the way home knowing you'll get there okay because the horse knows its way?
 
2020-05-20 3:48:25 PM  

patrick767: xxBirdMadGirlxx: It's like Friday night in Amish country just, you know, all the time.

Take the buggy over to Jebidiah's, spend the night drinking, and pass out on the way home knowing you'll get there okay because the horse knows its way?


I see you've been to Lancaster, PA.

All you're missing is the secret, lascivious thrill of spying ladies' underthings drying on one of the three lines strung between the house and the main barn.
 
2020-05-20 8:45:11 PM  
Warthog:
In this case, the picture in the article shows that one of the bags had a bar code on it.  Calling the cops was the correct call for these folks, as I wouldn't want to make the case that the owner of the case wasn't knowable.

Not just a barcode. It's registered mail, headed for Charles City. Official USPS. They probably had to cut the tin seal to find out what was in them. Quarter says an HCR didn't latch his truck correctly.
 
2020-05-20 9:05:15 PM  
I'd return a lot of it.
You said there were TWO duffels, officer?

Honey, did you see a second duffel?
 
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