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2020-05-20 2:52:00 AM  
I just watched the first three episodes of the new season of Billions. They were trying to corner the market on pharmaceutical DMT. Is this pure fiction, or is it based in reality? I know some psychotherapists use MDMA already. Is this the next step?  Cause I really want to go to there.
 
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2020-05-20 3:18:32 AM  
Frequently I simply cannot understand huge amounts of money, especially when it involves the words "podcast" and "Joe Rogan."

That's about as much money as WeWork is worth right now and they still haven't told a joke or bothered to f*ck up Carlos Mencia's career.
 
2020-05-20 4:29:03 AM  
This might be the funniest thing Joe Rogan ever did.

I subscribe to his whole show and clips channels and watch them fairly regularly, but its not worth getting into Spotify for.

I would have done it for $100M, but I didn't make $30M last year either. I don't think he thought his cunning plan all the way through.
 
2020-05-20 5:44:52 AM  
PreMortem:  I would have done it for $100M, but I didn't make $30M last year either. I don't think he thought his cunning plan all the way through.

Oh, HE thought it out just fine.  Spotify's the one that may have miscalculated.

Rogan just became the Howard Stern of podcasting - he gets the huge payday, but is going to lose audience doing so, because there's a segment that for whatever reason won't follow him to his new destination.

But the real question I have...  When Joe Rogan actually dies, will anyone believe it?
 
2020-05-20 6:15:39 AM  
Another service to continue not paying for. Podcasts are so farking boring it's unreal. Read a farking book.
 
2020-05-20 6:38:53 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: Another service to continue not paying for. Podcasts are so farking boring it's unreal. Read a farking book.


Sounds like you've been listening to some boring podcasts.

Podcasting is just...radio. It's listening to words. If you like reading words, you'll probably like listening to words, because it's the same thing. And unlike reading, you can do it while you drive or walk around or do the dishes or jog or whatever.

Yeah, a lot of podcasts suck. A lot of books suck. But a lot are really good, too! There are plenty of factual podcasts about literally any subject ever. If you like a long narrative and don't like that chatty-interviewy-talk-radio nonsense Rogan does, go start with Mike Duncan's "The History of Rome". You'll like it. I promise.
 
2020-05-20 7:07:10 AM  
What a waste of money.
 
2020-05-20 7:12:03 AM  
The libertarian and martial arts commentator

Wrong. He's liberal on nearly every issue.
 
2020-05-20 7:21:29 AM  

jaylectricity: The libertarian and martial arts commentator

Wrong. He's liberal on nearly every issue.


He says he's voting Trump. He's not libertarian or liberal; he's a farking moron.
 
2020-05-20 7:32:39 AM  

jaylectricity: The libertarian and martial arts commentator

Wrong. He's liberal on nearly every issue.


lol, the dude doesn't have opinions on "the issues" on his show, he just agrees with whoever he's talking to. He'll gladly "yeah, sure, wow, you're blowing my mind here, yeah," along with anyone from mainstream-lefties like Bernie Sanders to literal-Nazi thugs like Gavin McInnes.

He's an affable moron, which is why his show is so popular: he's a jovial and friendly nonentity, whose interview style 'works' to the same extent that an ELIZA program works. He prompts them to talk, encourages them to keep talking, acts as an audience-stand in who is super super stoked to hear them talk, and if things start to get repetitive he just makes reference to something else they said earlier to get them started again.

His show is absolutely vacuous. He's just a softballing talk-show host: he brings on huge names, but doesn't get them to say anything they don't want to say, and at the end of it you haven't learned anything about them you wouldn't get from a PR piece the guest wrote themselves.
 
2020-05-20 8:08:28 AM  
Good for him. That is one hell of a payday. I only listen to maybe 1-2 a month of his, so I doubt I'll head to Spotify for it. Good luck kind sir!
 
2020-05-20 8:24:06 AM  
Spotify keeps pushing podcasts. At one point they had a halfway decent collection of stand-up that they've replaced with garbage podcasts. I already have a free dedicated podcast player that remembers everything I have listened to so why would I want to tie all of that to a paid monthly app that I have the barest minimum of loyalties toward?
 
2020-05-20 8:27:00 AM  
Christ I was so off on this.  one of my friends sent me a text that it would be on spotify in the future. I know everyone hates rogan on here, but I like watching the interplay between people on his show and find him pretty entertaining.  I said "I bet they offered him a million a year to switch"  I don't use spotify, so no more rogan on my watch list.

Yeah, 99 million off.  Good lord.
 
2020-05-20 8:37:27 AM  
Brendan Schaub is the farking worst.
 
2020-05-20 8:44:37 AM  
Good for him, I guess, but meh.  If I want something entertaining that involves Joe Rogan involved, I'll watch old episodes of NewsRadio.
 
2020-05-20 8:47:08 AM  

pkjun: he's a jovial and friendly nonentity, whose interview style 'works' to the same extent that an ELIZA program works.


Other way 'round. ELIZA was written to mimic this existing interview style.
 
2020-05-20 8:48:47 AM  
Can we bring that up, Jaimie?  Can we bring that up?  Man.  That dude is jacked.
 
2020-05-20 8:49:56 AM  
Spotify is insane

A whole bag of chips? Insane.
 
2020-05-20 8:51:04 AM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Spotify keeps pushing podcasts. At one point they had a halfway decent collection of stand-up that they've replaced with garbage podcasts. I already have a free dedicated podcast player that remembers everything I have listened to so why would I want to tie all of that to a paid monthly app that I have the barest minimum of loyalties toward?


To listen to Joe Rogan.

Spotify is something of a victim of their own success, much like Netflix. Early on, they got pretty favorable terms from the content producers, but when those contracts came around for re-negotiation the producers started to want a lot more money or were starting to look at their own streaming, so it was difficult to hold on to the content that brought people to the service in the first place (like stand-up comedy). Netflix "solved" this problem by starting to produce their own content. Spotify is trying to do the same thing, though they have a much harder hill to climb.
 
2020-05-20 8:51:06 AM  
Do the people who sell CBD oils and nutritional supplements really spend that much on advertising?
 
2020-05-20 8:56:26 AM  
Man, not even a hot cocoa sampler?

Lame...
 
2020-05-20 9:06:45 AM  
I no longer care for Rogan after listening for years as he is unchanging.   Same questions same bonobos.   Same pot talk-   good for him.   But the interesting lede is buried here.

Live and Recorded Video via Spotify is part of this deal.   Are we finally getting an honest to god youtube competitor?
 
2020-05-20 9:07:20 AM  

FlashHarry: jaylectricity: The libertarian and martial arts commentator

Wrong. He's liberal on nearly every issue.

He says he's voting Trump. He's not libertarian or liberal; he's a farking moron.


My point is he's not a libertarian. It just goes to show how easy people are led to believe things based on something they read about once.

Case in point:

pkjun: lol, the dude doesn't have opinions on "the issues" on his show, he just agrees with whoever he's talking to. He'll gladly "yeah, sure, wow, you're blowing my mind here, yeah," along with anyone from mainstream-lefties like Bernie Sanders to literal-Nazi thugs like Gavin McInnes.

He's an affable moron, which is why his show is so popular: he's a jovial and friendly nonentity, whose interview style 'works' to the same extent that an ELIZA program works. He prompts them to talk, encourages them to keep talking, acts as an audience-stand in who is super super stoked to hear them talk, and if things start to get repetitive he just makes reference to something else they said earlier to get them started again.

His show is absolutely vacuous. He's just a softballing talk-show host: he brings on huge names, but doesn't get them to say anything they don't want to say, and at the end of it you haven't learned anything about them you wouldn't get from a PR piece the guest wrote themselves.


He has tons of opinions and argues with guests regularly. It's just that he doesn't turn it into a screaming match like most of shows that have people of differing opinions. The first interview with the Twitter guy is the only one that made headlines as him not making somebody say what they didn't want to say.

Rogan is a curious guy who likes to go deep on subjects, so if he lets somebody talk for a long time it's because he wants to know more about the subject.
 
2020-05-20 9:07:37 AM  
there always seem to be a lot of people who want to go out and prove that they have never listened to a word that Rogan has ever said, nor the interviews that he conducts (outside of UFC). Just pure hate, for whatever reason.

I guess its one of those, "sure you can agree with most of my viewpoints, but your not on the team bus, so go die in a hole, infested with karens".
 
2020-05-20 9:08:59 AM  

qorkfiend: thismomentinblackhistory: Spotify keeps pushing podcasts. At one point they had a halfway decent collection of stand-up that they've replaced with garbage podcasts. I already have a free dedicated podcast player that remembers everything I have listened to so why would I want to tie all of that to a paid monthly app that I have the barest minimum of loyalties toward?

To listen to Joe Rogan.

Spotify is something of a victim of their own success, much like Netflix. Early on, they got pretty favorable terms from the content producers, but when those contracts came around for re-negotiation the producers started to want a lot more money or were starting to look at their own streaming, so it was difficult to hold on to the content that brought people to the service in the first place (like stand-up comedy). Netflix "solved" this problem by starting to produce their own content. Spotify is trying to do the same thing, though they have a much harder hill to climb.


This mostly affects standup (and amusingly, podcasts). Music is subject to compulsory licensing, so producers can only extort so much before statutory limits come into play.
 
2020-05-20 9:11:21 AM  
Damn, that buys a lot of DMT.
 
2020-05-20 9:11:49 AM  
Does this mean that YouTube will stop showing 10 Joe Rogan videos on the front page whenever I go there? Then good, I like this news.
 
2020-05-20 9:13:22 AM  

jaylectricity: The libertarian and martial arts commentator

Wrong. He's liberal on nearly every issue.


Libertarians are quite liberal on most social issues.  That's the point.  He endorsed Gary Johnson and Ron Paul in past elections.  He's both accepted and rejected the libertarian label several times.  He's voting for Trump over Biden, according to his most recent statements on it.

He's hosted some truly terrible alt-right stains on his show, and routinely agreed with them.  He gives them massive airtime and platform.  Alex Jones, Jordan Peterson, Gavin McInnes, Milo, etc.  He's clearly had a lot of exposure to different viewpoints and ideologies, and he still chooses to amplify (and often agree with) the most vile of messages on a regular basis.

All of this together reeks of libertarian approach.  Socially freedom-loving, but completely irresponsible at the same time.
 
2020-05-20 9:16:51 AM  
And your favorite artist still gets .00000000000001 of a cent with every play.
 
2020-05-20 9:18:00 AM  
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2020-05-20 9:19:30 AM  

jaylectricity: Rogan is a curious guy who likes to go deep on subjects, so if he lets somebody talk for a long time it's because he wants to know more about the subject.


And once he learns more, he still manages to agree with terrible human beings espousing terrible ideas way more often than any thinking human should.
 
2020-05-20 9:20:39 AM  

Khellendros: jaylectricity: The libertarian and martial arts commentator

Wrong. He's liberal on nearly every issue.

Libertarians are quite liberal on most social issues.  That's the point.  He endorsed Gary Johnson and Ron Paul in past elections.  He's both accepted and rejected the libertarian label several times.  He's voting for Trump over Biden, according to his most recent statements on it.

He's hosted some truly terrible alt-right stains on his show, and routinely agreed with them.  He gives them massive airtime and platform.  Alex Jones, Jordan Peterson, Gavin McInnes, Milo, etc.  He's clearly had a lot of exposure to different viewpoints and ideologies, and he still chooses to amplify (and often agree with) the most vile of messages on a regular basis.

All of this together reeks of libertarian approach.  Socially freedom-loving, but completely irresponsible at the same time.


Someone once told me they thought that Jordan Peterson was philosophical and I felt like the Tralfamaladorians in Slaughterhouse-5.  I said nothing, but just turned away.  The embarrassment I felt for this person was terrible.
 
2020-05-20 9:22:26 AM  
Khellendros:

Socially freedom-loving, but completely irresponsible at the same time.

Does he embrace liberties but not the attendant responsibilities?  Has he not learned a goddamn thing from the last 300 years of history?  Does he like to smoke weed?  Because that would be libertarian.

Rogan is more gullible than openminded. He's the payoff to pull my finger.
 
2020-05-20 9:24:04 AM  

jaylectricity: Rogan is a curious guy who likes to go deep on subjects, so if he lets somebody talk for a long time it's because he wants to know more about the subject.


He's actually fast on the uptake and is really good at asking the right questions most of the time. He would have made a great student if he'd bothered.
 
2020-05-20 9:26:09 AM  

Rapmaster2000: [Fark user image 850x456]
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Is that one of those AI recreations?
 
2020-05-20 9:29:16 AM  

PreMortem: I subscribe to his whole show and clips channels and watch them fairly regularly, but its not worth getting into Spotify for.


I'm the same. And I generally seek out comedians as guests. Some of the 'science/nutrition' guests set off my spidey sense/bullshait detector and I usually avoid the political guests. I'd have to be really bored to watch a UFC show but some have been a bit interesting
 
2020-05-20 9:33:19 AM  

brizzle365: there always seem to be a lot of people who want to go out and prove that they have never listened to a word that Rogan has ever said, nor the interviews that he conducts (outside of UFC). Just pure hate, for whatever reason.

I guess its one of those, "sure you can agree with most of my viewpoints, but your not on the team bus, so go die in a hole, infested with karens".


This.

Every JR thread he gets called an enabler of the right because he gives them a platform. And they neglect to mention 3 shows later, there's a gay weightlifter or transgender comedian taking about their struggle.

It's not mentioned because they don't watch the show
 
2020-05-20 9:37:18 AM  
Joe Rogan Experience #1354 - The Black Keys
Youtube izjGX8XJZ4g


My favorite - 3 hours of behind the scenes in the music industry. And a lot of it is spent on Spotify
 
2020-05-20 9:38:05 AM  
Shirley Manson on How the Music Industry Screws Over Artists - JRE #953
Youtube mznh-WLOjRc


And here is 13 min on how Spotify screws artists
 
2020-05-20 9:39:19 AM  

ryant123: Rapmaster2000: [Fark user image 850x456]
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Is that one of those AI recreations?


Yeah.  It's that 1000 hours bot guy who isn't a bot.
 
2020-05-20 9:40:08 AM  

Cajnik: PreMortem: I subscribe to his whole show and clips channels and watch them fairly regularly, but its not worth getting into Spotify for.

I'm the same. And I generally seek out comedians as guests. Some of the 'science/nutrition' guests set off my spidey sense/bullshait detector and I usually avoid the political guests. I'd have to be really bored to watch a UFC show but some have been a bit interesting


Same here, I'm not paying for Spotify to watch it.

I've been watching less and less of his shows recently anyway.   I skip most of the political, all of the nutrition people, all of the hunting people.  That doesn't leave many guests.

I'll still have the Honeydew and your moms house for now.
 
2020-05-20 9:41:33 AM  
Cajnik:

It's not mentioned because they don't watch the show

I don't watch his show. I have watched his show. I don't step in dog shiat. I have stepped in dog shiat.   I learned to avoid it. Same thing.
 
2020-05-20 9:45:28 AM  
Bleh, Joe Rogan is the podcast version of Rick and Morty.  It's to give the stoners and low brows something to feel elitist about.

Worth a couple bags of Funyuns maybe, not $100 mill.
 
2020-05-20 9:46:30 AM  

Cajnik: brizzle365: there always seem to be a lot of people who want to go out and prove that they have never listened to a word that Rogan has ever said, nor the interviews that he conducts (outside of UFC). Just pure hate, for whatever reason.

I guess its one of those, "sure you can agree with most of my viewpoints, but your not on the team bus, so go die in a hole, infested with karens".

This.

Every JR thread he gets called an enabler of the right because he gives them a platform. And they neglect to mention 3 shows later, there's a gay weightlifter or transgender comedian taking about their struggle.

It's not mentioned because they don't watch the show


So you're saying transgender people are equal to Nazis?
 
2020-05-20 9:51:09 AM  
Good lord, I wouldn't listen to that half-wit for free.  Somebody is paying him whaaaa?
 
2020-05-20 9:51:19 AM  
Being a gateway Alex Jones sure is lucrative
 
2020-05-20 9:54:03 AM  

12349876: So you're saying transgender people are equal to Nazis?


Don't be intentionally dense.

"He gives a platform to..."

Everyone. Because it's a farking radio talk show.
 
2020-05-20 9:54:55 AM  
I like his show and listen to it sometimes, but I don't feel it's essential. Having to use Spotify to listen to it is additional friction that might mean I look for something else.

In general, I really think most media just isn't worth anything like the money people get paid. He's one of those people with really weird, sketchy-sounding sponsors. I seriously doubt the revenue is anything like a $100m show.
 
2020-05-20 9:57:04 AM  

ryant123: Rapmaster2000: [Fark user image 850x456]
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Is that one of those AI recreations?


That is what people think should be driving their cars.
 
2020-05-20 9:58:27 AM  
Well...good for him. Anyone that can take a fair to average comedy career and build it into an empire gets a nod of respect.
Anyone that can stomach having to hear about MME, UFC, the best strikers in the sport, bow hunting and elk meat every 15 minutes, your dreams have come true.
 
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