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(The Hill)   Texas, North Carolina, and Arizona all began "re-opening" last week, and in what is surely a coincidence, all three reported a record-high number of new Coronavirus cases on Saturday   (thehill.com) divider line
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2020-05-19 3:49:56 PM  
You
Don't
Say?!


I'm sure it's just coincidence.  Margin of error, extra-late reporting, found some lost records, inflated numbers, just got a new batch of tests and are testing people who needed them like, two weeks ago, it was an intern's fault, shoulda stuck to fetching coffee...
 
2020-05-19 4:11:05 PM  
Maddow showed a graph last night of new cases in the U.S. but excluding NY/NJ/CT

Even with some states fudging their numbers, it was pretty much a 45 degree up-slope.
 
2020-05-19 4:28:32 PM  
Yep, after I check out my classroom on Thursday, my ass is staying home.

/Lives in Glendale Az
//Let the old trumpers roll the dice if they want
 
2020-05-19 4:29:27 PM  
 
2020-05-19 4:39:36 PM  
Yeah after seeing all the people out and about I don't see myself venturing out much anytime soon
 
2020-05-19 4:51:31 PM  
Not surprising at all.  Two weeks ago, when Captain Pike announced the reopening, I was hoping that the numbers wouldn't go up but I was still skeptical.  Any hope I had was steadily dashed over the last two weeks as I watched the how the "no mask" people behaved.

/Texas
 
2020-05-19 4:58:17 PM  
My racist MAGA M-I-L for the last 5 weeks: Why won't gov Cooper open up North Carolina already.  I hate him so much.

My racist MAGA M-I-L next week: Gov Cooper is killing us by opening North Carolina too soon.  I hate him so much.

/ wish I was kidding.
 
2020-05-19 5:03:37 PM  

hugram: My racist MAGA M-I-L for the last 5 weeks: Why won't gov Cooper open up North Carolina already.  I hate him so much.

My racist MAGA M-I-L next week: Gov Cooper is killing us by opening North Carolina too soon.  I hate him so much.

/ wish I was kidding.


It's the Republican way.
Don't get what you want? Blame the Democrats!
Get what you want and it backfires just like every sane person on the planet was telling you it would?  Blame the Democrats!
But whatever you do, never, ever, ever self reflect on what really went wrong and why.
 
2020-05-19 5:18:39 PM  
Should we discuss Georgia and Florida falsifying COVID data to manipulate public perception?
 
2020-05-19 5:30:54 PM  

weddingsinger: Should we discuss Georgia and Florida falsifying COVID data to manipulate public perception?


Oh, we should be discussing all of this, at great length and in greater detail.

The problem is, this country is full of idiot lemmings who proudly leap off the cliff in order to stick it to "the libs." They're the ones who need the information the most, and the ones who want it the least.
 
2020-05-19 5:31:14 PM  
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2020-05-19 5:32:02 PM  

weddingsinger: Should we discuss Georgia and Florida falsifying COVID data to manipulate public perception?


Sure. In Florida they fudged their graph by putting the dates on out of order. By a lot. Oops, it made the graph look like it was going down. Die for Trump.
 
2020-05-19 5:32:47 PM  

weddingsinger: Should we discuss Georgia and Florida falsifying COVID data to manipulate public perception?


Yes.

Will we? That mostly depends on the news-entertainment industry's willingness to give air time to the discussion.
 
2020-05-19 5:32:58 PM  
Is this beyond the expected increase due to the increased testing though?
 
2020-05-19 5:35:00 PM  
Florida has been "partially" reopen since May 4th. I say "partially" because the restaurants around here didn't give a f*ck about "25% capacity" and threw their doors open. The restaurants have been packed. Now is about the time we start seeing the repercussions of that.
My hygienist's daughter is a nurse at one of the local hospitals. They closed their COVID unit for a whole two days before needing to reopen it. Good times.
 
2020-05-19 5:36:22 PM  

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Is it weird that I think the crappy low-res version of this pic is funnier?
 
2020-05-19 5:36:38 PM  
Nobody could have predicted this!

...No, wait.  Everybody (with a functioning brain stem) predicted this!
 
2020-05-19 5:37:07 PM  

weddingsinger: Should we discuss Georgia and Florida falsifying COVID data to manipulate public perception?


Things that don't lie:

1.  The proliferation of a newspaper's obituary section
2.  Mass graves
3.  Public health officials that aren't held at gunpoint by Trump
 
2020-05-19 5:38:34 PM  
This is going to happen in Wisconsin soon, and probably Illinois, because they are going over the border to booze it up. I really like my governor Evers, but having a republican controlled legislature sure makes him look bad. Full blue states I envy you.
 
2020-05-19 5:38:58 PM  
93,000+ are now dead. Forget about 100,000 being dead by June 1st, it will be there by the weekend
 
2020-05-19 5:40:02 PM  
the DC metro area too. MD started reopening last week and today is a record high for daily infections. after a week of 800ish per day we have had 1800+ in the last 24h.
 
2020-05-19 5:41:35 PM  
There was no reason to think the numbers would go up, the question is whether hospital capacity has been or is likely to be exceeded. I don't think we ever planned to be locked down long enough for no one else to get the disease, because it's going to be way too long before we get a vaccine. AFAIK no one was ever planning to be locked down that long.

Which does not mean that anyone should start having big gatherings again, but sensible reopenings really could be in order in some places and under some circumstances.
 
2020-05-19 5:42:19 PM  

pdieten: There was no reason to think the numbers would NOT go up, the question is whether hospital capacity has been or is likely to be exceeded. I don't think we ever planned to be locked down long enough for no one else to get the disease, because it's going to be way too long before we get a vaccine. AFAIK no one was ever planning to be locked down that long.

Which does not mean that anyone should start having big gatherings again, but sensible reopenings really could be in order in some places and under some circumstances.


/fscking forget to preview again
 
2020-05-19 5:42:53 PM  

pdieten: but sensible reopenings really could be in order in some places and under some circumstances.


Good luck with that.

"Sensible" is something human beings can't comprehend apparently.
 
2020-05-19 5:42:55 PM  
A couple of states have already decreased the # of C19 deaths because of over counting, more are to follow.  AZ was up a little, but only because of a 'medical blitz' where a ton of testing was done.  The % of positives to those tested actually went down.
 
2020-05-19 5:44:58 PM  

Astorix: 93,000+ are now dead. Forget about 100,000 being dead by June 1st, it will be there by the weekend


Let's check in with each other 2 1/2 weeks after Memorial Day- We can sit and commiserate the foolishness of the new numbers, and lament as to why it never NEEDED to happen.

That weekend is gonna make things VERY nasty in the near future
 
2020-05-19 5:45:09 PM  
You can't blame this on the re-opening. There's a longer lag than a week. This was already going up and up, and they re-opened anywhere. Prepare for the curve to get even steeper in 1-2wks as the effects of the opening, ahem, go viral.
 
2020-05-19 5:47:42 PM  
I'm sure the Governors of North Carolina and Arizona, just like Texas Governor Gregg Abbott did when he got caught on a hot mic admitting as much, that they knew this is exactly what would happen.

Sorry, peasants. Your Nana and Papa are acceptable losses salvage the economy and by extension, Republicans' re-election chances this November.

And if you think that's bad, for years they have considered your children acceptable losses for their NRA donations.
 
2020-05-19 5:48:17 PM  

fearmongert: Astorix: 93,000+ are now dead. Forget about 100,000 being dead by June 1st, it will be there by the weekend

Let's check in with each other 2 1/2 weeks after Memorial Day- We can sit and commiserate the foolishness of the new numbers, and lament as to why it never NEEDED to happen.

That weekend is gonna make things VERY nasty in the near future


Memorial Day is going to be poignant this weekend
 
2020-05-19 5:48:29 PM  
Since re-lockdown is off the menu, we'll see:

1) What the potential for exponential expansion may be.
2) Whether this is really an urban/blackfolk disease

For numba 1, we've not seen another other nation, much large a massive one, decide to just throw doors open carefree and do nothing. For numba 2, taking out the explosion in New York, it's actually killed mostly white folk and Asian folks.

Other words: Good luck!
 
2020-05-19 5:49:09 PM  

Mrtraveler01: pdieten: but sensible reopenings really could be in order in some places and under some circumstances.

Good luck with that.

"Sensible" is something human beings can't comprehend apparently.


I think you mean conservatives. And white American conservatives in particular. Don't blame this shiat on the rest of us.
 
2020-05-19 5:49:21 PM  

desertratt: A couple of states have already decreased the # of C19 deaths because of over counting, more are to follow.  AZ was up a little, but only because of a 'medical blitz' where a ton of testing was done.  The % of positives to those tested actually went down.


I'll wager more states have undercounted and in another month as all death data is available in all 50 states for March and April we'll see the comparison relative to last year
 
2020-05-19 5:50:58 PM  

weddingsinger: desertratt: A couple of states have already decreased the # of C19 deaths because of over counting, more are to follow.  AZ was up a little, but only because of a 'medical blitz' where a ton of testing was done.  The % of positives to those tested actually went down.

I'll wager more states have undercounted and in another month as all death data is available in all 50 states for March and April we'll see the comparison relative to last year


Definitely undercounted, even without the lies and fraud.

If we get a second wave, anything like the Spanish flu? Holy shiat.
 
2020-05-19 5:51:43 PM  

gunga galunga: I'm sure the Governors of North Carolina and Arizona, just like Texas Governor Gregg Abbott did when he got caught on a hot mic admitting as much, that they knew this is exactly what would happen.

Sorry, peasants. Your Nana and Papa are acceptable losses salvage the economy and by extension, Republicans' re-election chances this November.

And if you think that's bad, for years they have considered your children acceptable losses for their NRA donations.


Let's not forget that even for the "low" risk groups, it's still the most dangerous and contagious disease in a century.
 
2020-05-19 5:51:49 PM  

hugram: My racist MAGA M-I-L for the last 5 weeks: Why won't gov Cooper open up North Carolina already.  I hate him so much.

My racist MAGA M-I-L next week: Gov Cooper is killing us by opening North Carolina too soon.  I hate him so much.

/ wish I was kidding.


I shudder to think how Pat McCrony would have handled this crisis.  He'd probably sell us coal ash as a cure.
 
2020-05-19 5:52:42 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: weddingsinger: desertratt: A couple of states have already decreased the # of C19 deaths because of over counting, more are to follow.  AZ was up a little, but only because of a 'medical blitz' where a ton of testing was done.  The % of positives to those tested actually went down.

I'll wager more states have undercounted and in another month as all death data is available in all 50 states for March and April we'll see the comparison relative to last year

Definitely undercounted, even without the lies and fraud.

If we get a second wave, anything like the Spanish flu? Holy shiat.


2nd wave is already starting up.  I'd guess peaking into a truly disturbing story by 4th of July
 
2020-05-19 5:54:48 PM  

emersonbiggins: weddingsinger: Should we discuss Georgia and Florida falsifying COVID data to manipulate public perception?

Things that don't lie:

1.  The proliferation of a newspaper's obituary section
2.  Mass graves
3.  Public health officials that aren't held at gunpoint by Trump


4: ball
 
2020-05-19 5:56:22 PM  
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2020-05-19 5:57:31 PM  

desertratt: A couple of states have already decreased the # of C19 deaths because of over counting, more are to follow.  AZ was up a little, but only because of a 'medical blitz' where a ton of testing was done.  The % of positives to those tested actually went down.


Republican states aren't testing enough and/or underreporting to placate their dipshiat constituents. You are Exhibit A.
 
2020-05-19 5:57:46 PM  

Uncle Pooky: weddingsinger: Should we discuss Georgia and Florida falsifying COVID data to manipulate public perception?

Oh, we should be discussing all of this, at great length and in greater detail.

The problem is, this country is full of idiot lemmings who proudly leap off the cliff in order to stick it to "the libs." They're the ones who need the information the most, and the ones who want it the least.


Well, the Barking Yam of Idiocy and Chaos is busy telling its MAGAtty followers that the Veterans' Administration medical studies on the hydro/Z being bad for the heart-meats are FAKE STUDIES and to go ahead and demand as much of the drugs as possible.......so this will be a target-specific self-correcting problem, unlike the virus itself.
 
2020-05-19 5:57:54 PM  

pdieten: There was no reason to think the numbers would go up, the question is whether hospital capacity has been or is likely to be exceeded. I don't think we ever planned to be locked down long enough for no one else to get the disease, because it's going to be way too long before we get a vaccine. AFAIK no one was ever planning to be locked down that long.

Which does not mean that anyone should start having big gatherings again, but sensible reopenings really could be in order in some places and under some circumstances.


We tried to get SENSIBLE gun laws too.
 
2020-05-19 5:59:09 PM  

weddingsinger: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: weddingsinger: desertratt: A couple of states have already decreased the # of C19 deaths because of over counting, more are to follow.  AZ was up a little, but only because of a 'medical blitz' where a ton of testing was done.  The % of positives to those tested actually went down.

I'll wager more states have undercounted and in another month as all death data is available in all 50 states for March and April we'll see the comparison relative to last year

Definitely undercounted, even without the lies and fraud.

If we get a second wave, anything like the Spanish flu? Holy shiat.

2nd wave is already starting up.  I'd guess peaking into a truly disturbing story by 4th of July


No, this is just first wave going into areas it hasn't entered yet. A second wave would come in autumn.
 
2020-05-19 6:00:17 PM  

monsatano: desertratt: A couple of states have already decreased the # of C19 deaths because of over counting, more are to follow.  AZ was up a little, but only because of a 'medical blitz' where a ton of testing was done.  The % of positives to those tested actually went down.

Republican states aren't testing enough and/or underreporting to placate their dipshiat constituents. You are Exhibit A.


It's not worth fighting against the delusional. Time will tell soon enough. Conservatives feel they can lie into truth new existences, but they can't.
 
2020-05-19 6:00:37 PM  

tudorgurl: Yep, after I check out my classroom on Thursday, my ass is staying home.

/Lives in Glendale Az
//Let the old trumpers roll the dice if they want


Are you also a teacher? I taught some private lessons out in Gilbert and Mesa about a decade ago when I was going to ASU.

The only thing I miss about that valley is Venezia's in Tempe.
 
2020-05-19 6:03:24 PM  

OldRod: Maddow showed a graph last night of new cases in the U.S. but excluding NY/NJ/CT

Even with some states fudging their numbers, it was pretty much a 45 degree up-slope.


Pure graph angle doesn't matter because it can be skewed by the proportion of the X and Y scales. We need to look at the growth rates or do comparative analysis of the rates compared to those of other areas, or the same area and other points in time.

Better yet, make the Y scale logarithmic and see what the derivative is - the rate of change is more telling as to the efficacy of our mitigation measures.
 
2020-05-19 6:03:30 PM  
I really like this guy's comics, sometimes it feels like he's spying on me though.
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2020-05-19 6:04:52 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: monsatano: desertratt: A couple of states have already decreased the # of C19 deaths because of over counting, more are to follow.  AZ was up a little, but only because of a 'medical blitz' where a ton of testing was done.  The % of positives to those tested actually went down.

Republican states aren't testing enough and/or underreporting to placate their dipshiat constituents. You are Exhibit A.

It's not worth fighting against the delusional. Time will tell soon enough. Conservatives feel they can lie into truth new existences, but they can't.


Trump literally has a new campaign email calling it "Truth over facts" that seems appropriate to mention for some reason
 
2020-05-19 6:05:44 PM  

Astorix: 93,000+ are now dead. Forget about 100,000 being dead by June 1st, it will be there by the weekend


My prediction, based on the trend of the growth rates, is a week from today (Tuesday). Maybe next Monday at the earliest.

That's all out the window if we get a sudden increase when the "reopen" wave starts to hit.
 
2020-05-19 6:06:09 PM  

KarmicDisaster: weddingsinger: Should we discuss Georgia and Florida falsifying COVID data to manipulate public perception?

Sure. In Florida they fudged their graph by putting the dates on out of order. By a lot. Oops, it made the graph look like it was going down. Die for Trump.


Actually, that was Georgia. Florida is the one that fired the person in charge of their Covid data collection because the numbers were accurate and DeSantis didn't want people to get accurate numbers. But I totally get how you could confuse the two.
 
2020-05-19 6:06:42 PM  

weddingsinger: Trump literally has a new campaign email calling it "Truth over facts"


Dafuq?
 
2020-05-19 6:07:20 PM  

monsatano: HerptheDerp: [Fark user image image 425x374]

Is it weird that I think the crappy low-res version of this pic is funnier?


Considering how often I'm getting to use it, maybe I should find a few versions.  Not like I'm likely to run out of threads to use them in anytime soon.
 
2020-05-19 6:09:30 PM  
I don't believe the covid numbers from any GOP-run state.

At this point, though, even California is reopening.
 
2020-05-19 6:12:00 PM  

gunga galunga: I'm sure the Governors of North Carolina and Arizona, just like Texas Governor Gregg Abbott did when he got caught on a hot mic admitting as much, that they knew this is exactly what would happen.

Sorry, peasants. Your Nana and Papa are acceptable losses salvage the economy and by extension, Republicans' re-election chances this November.

And if you think that's bad, for years they have considered your children acceptable losses for their NRA donations.


This is all true. But what does Cuomo gain by killing granny ordering nursing homes to accept covid patients?
 
2020-05-19 6:14:09 PM  
Looks like Iowa is planning  farking around with numbers now too
https://coronavirus.iowa.gov/#Current​S​tatus
Thanks Kovid Kim
 
2020-05-19 6:14:36 PM  
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2020-05-19 6:15:50 PM  

Zed234: Looks like Iowa is planning  farking around with numbers now too
https://coronavirus.iowa.gov/#CurrentS​tatus
Thanks Kovid Kim


Take screen shots or dump the data before they do, if you can.
 
2020-05-19 6:21:19 PM  
Mrs Alt and I drove straight through from Oakland CA to home in North Florida last week, 10-12 took 43 hours.

Once we left CA, pretty much everywhere we stopped for food or gas no one was wearing masks, even in the stores. People hanging out in close groups, store employees not wearing masks. Most of that drive (we took I-40) is Texas, we kept saying to each other that it would interesting to see what the infection numbers would look like in 7-10 days. Guess we know now.

Idiots.
 
2020-05-19 6:22:46 PM  
take a look at these pictures.  imagine every human you can see in them is dead.  That's how man Americans have died from this Virus in about 2 1/2 months.   and even if you go by the official numbers, were losing 2 9/11's a week more   minimum
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2020-05-19 6:30:59 PM  

desertratt: A couple of states have already decreased the # of C19 deaths because of over counting, more are to follow.  AZ was up a little, but only because of a 'medical blitz' where a ton of testing was done.  The % of positives to those tested actually went down.


I am a free-thinking individual whose value system reads like the right-wing talking points that can be found on just about any other portion of the internet.
 
2020-05-19 6:33:40 PM  

quiotu: This site lost its soul and ability to be funny a while ago.


I was going to go with this one:
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But I think I'll go with this one:
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If getting involved in a heated debate is getting to the point where it's causing you distress, you might want to consider sitting on the sidelines an post goofy stuff like I try to do.  Trying to win an argument here is like this:
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2020-05-19 6:34:56 PM  
They were warned. They were given an explanation. Nevertheless, they persisted.
 
2020-05-19 6:40:07 PM  

pdieten: pdieten: There was no reason to think the numbers would NOT go up, the question is whether hospital capacity has been or is likely to be exceeded. I don't think we ever planned to be locked down long enough for no one else to get the disease, because it's going to be way too long before we get a vaccine. AFAIK no one was ever planning to be locked down that long.

Which does not mean that anyone should start having big gatherings again, but sensible reopenings really could be in order in some places and under some circumstances.

/fscking forget to preview again


It was also, supposedly, the social equivalent of a "primary immune response" to smack the virus back by brute force and get things "under control" so we'd have time to setup a targetted social adaptive immune response in the form of expanded hospital capacity, development of protocols, and most importantly setting up thorough testing and contact tracing nationwide so we'd be able to pounce on new outbreaks without having to go full President Madagascar.

Thanks to Trump's criminal incompetence, basically none of that happened outside of a relatively few areas run by Democrats that are large enough to do it by themselves.

Which means now we're going cabin crazy and STILL have nothing but a dull cudgel to fight with.
 
2020-05-19 6:42:42 PM  

UberDave: Not surprising at all.  Two weeks ago, when Captain Pike announced the reopening, I was hoping that the numbers wouldn't go up but I was still skeptical.  Any hope I had was steadily dashed over the last two weeks as I watched the how the "no mask" people behaved.

/Texas


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2020-05-19 6:46:47 PM  

darth sunshine: quiotu: This site lost its soul and ability to be funny a while ago.

I was going to go with this one:
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But I think I'll go with this one:
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If getting involved in a heated debate is getting to the point where it's causing you distress, you might want to consider sitting on the sidelines an post goofy stuff like I try to do.  Trying to win an argument here is like this:
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I gotta say... when real actual disinformation and propaganda is being spread that's not only dangerous but is getting more people infected and potentially dying, and your goto reaction is to laugh about it...

I think I'm going to tell you to eat shiat and not take your advice. But thanks.
 
2020-05-19 6:55:03 PM  
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2020-05-19 7:03:53 PM  
I'm just guessing that maybe states in the top twenty for cases, new cases, new deaths and deaths should not be re-opening. You might want to keep an eye on those measures of success and failure for a while.

The same goes for countries. In fact, I am so conservative on re-opening, I think Quebec, Ontario, BC and Alberta should avoid it for a few months, just to see where the numbers go and how fast.

I am OK with careful and responsable reopening for anybody who has a record of zero deaths, zero new deaths for a while, zero new cases for a while, and zero cases. So go ahead and reopen bits of remote Canada and the Caribbean. In fact, reopen flights to the Caribbean but ensure that everybody is tested and re-tested, quarantined and re-quarantined if necessary, and also they should not drink too much local booze because some of that stuff is fatal.
 
2020-05-19 7:08:11 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: Mrs Alt and I drove straight through from Oakland CA to home in North Florida last week, 10-12 took 43 hours.

Once we left CA, pretty much everywhere we stopped for food or gas no one was wearing masks, even in the stores. People hanging out in close groups, store employees not wearing masks. Most of that drive (we took I-40) is Texas, we kept saying to each other that it would interesting to see what the infection numbers would look like in 7-10 days. Guess we know now.

Idiots.


I-40 between New Mexico and Oklahoma may seem like thousands of miles, but it's not. Maybe you meant I-10?
 
2020-05-19 7:09:52 PM  
From all the grousing around here, it seems many of you people have an unhealthy obsession with saving lives. You need to realize after all, that being alive is not the most important thing in life.*

/*Barely even paraphrasing this crap reasoning
 
2020-05-19 7:14:55 PM  

UberDave: Not surprising at all.  Two weeks ago, when Captain Pike announced the reopening, I was hoping that the numbers wouldn't go up but I was still skeptical.  Any hope I had was steadily dashed over the last two weeks as I watched the how the "no mask" people behaved.

/Texas


Yep. I'm still avoiding going out if at all possible.

My office is going to have staff rotation starting june 1, I have to go in on mondays. Good thing coronavirus likes its three day weekends...

/also texas
 
2020-05-19 7:15:16 PM  
How long before they begin fudging the numbers?
 
2020-05-19 7:16:02 PM  
Life is not the most important thing for Republicans.

In fact, I would go further and say that life is wasted on essential and deeply ideological conservatives (but not conservatives in name only (CHINOS). Some people are neurologically conservative, and this is not bad nor good. It is a fact and it takes all kinds. Some conservatives and Republians are essentially purple staters and swing voters, so they are OK even if Boomers or Millennials or Generation X, Y, and Z. I don't care for generational guff and labels. I have known way too many people born between 1874 and 2014 or later.

But if you see a False Conservative who is essentially and ideological konservative (or a kon artist) then feel free to point them towards the exit from other people's misery.
 
2020-05-19 7:16:38 PM  

DoBeDoBeDo: hugram: My racist MAGA M-I-L for the last 5 weeks: Why won't gov Cooper open up North Carolina already.  I hate him so much.

My racist MAGA M-I-L next week: Gov Cooper is killing us by opening North Carolina too soon.  I hate him so much.

/ wish I was kidding.

It's the Republican way.
Don't get what you want? Blame the Democrats!
Get what you want and it backfires just like every sane person on the planet was telling you it would?  Blame the Democrats!
But whatever you do, never, ever, ever self reflect on what really went wrong and why.


No, see, the democrats say "x terrible thing will happen if you do this". So, when X happens, its because the Democrats made it happen with their socialisms.
 
2020-05-19 7:16:46 PM  

FlashHarry: How long before they begin fudging the numbers?


Too late. I am sure there instinct is to minimize all facts from the get go.
 
2020-05-19 7:18:01 PM  

Gooch: Is this beyond the expected increase due to the increased testing though?


Probably not. The new infections from opening will start showing up next week.

Two week incubation is the norm.
 
2020-05-19 7:19:29 PM  
Three graphs-
One: using a growth rate of .98, about the best we sustained in late April/early May. Yellow is projected, green is actual numbers from ourworldindata.
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Two: using a growth rate of 1, which was what we were doing in early to mid April
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Three: using a growth rate of 1.02, far far less than we were doing in March (1.2 - 1.5)
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2020-05-19 7:43:21 PM  
Last week to Sunday is 14 days, subby? I know time is all farked up in lockdown, but a few days is not the incubation period. Now, this does fall in line with all of these "open up" protests, but not the actual opening up.
 
2020-05-19 7:46:10 PM  

desertratt: lies


Completely unsurprising.
 
2020-05-19 7:48:18 PM  

FlashHarry: How long before they begin fudging the numbers?


Negative 1 week, apparently :)

/Georgia GOP governor already got caught
//you know he's not the first to do it, just the first to get caught
 
2020-05-19 8:11:21 PM  

Natalie Portmanteau: Gooch: Is this beyond the expected increase due to the increased testing though?

Probably not. The new infections from opening will start showing up next week.

Two week incubation is the norm.


And another week or two for it to really show up once the infected start getting tested.

Symptomatic folks followed by mass testing at their place of work or church or wherever will show a hotspot
 
2020-05-19 8:13:16 PM  

PunGent: FlashHarry: How long before they begin fudging the numbers?

Negative 1 week, apparently :)

/Georgia GOP governor already got caught
//you know he's not the first to do it, just the first to get caught


Wasnt Florida publicly withholding nursing home numbers like two weeks ago?
 
2020-05-19 8:26:27 PM  
It's insane - not only are dine-in restaurants open (at 50%), but farking GYMS are, since Friday.  The very first people to go out should be coming down with symptoms between yesterday and tomorrow.  We have almost 15,000 confirmed cases, which means like 150,000 real ones, and 700 reported deaths.

Hawaii, meanwhile, is on the "we're thinking of reopening restaurants in June" phase, and has less total confirmed cases than we have deaths and hasn't reported a new case in four days (when they reported 1).

There's no mask ordinance.  There's fark all for contact tracing.  We're run by a farking death cult.
 
2020-05-19 9:49:28 PM  

darth sunshine: quiotu: This site lost its soul and ability to be funny a while ago.

I was going to go with this one:
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If getting involved in a heated debate is getting to the point where it's causing you distress, you might want to consider sitting on the sidelines an post goofy stuff like I try to do.  Trying to win an argument here is like this:
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You might consider farking off when people are spreading dangerous lies during a pandemic and you defend them doing so.
 
2020-05-19 9:51:48 PM  

Pichu0102: darth sunshine: quiotu: This site lost its soul and ability to be funny a while ago.

I was going to go with this one:
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If getting involved in a heated debate is getting to the point where it's causing you distress, you might want to consider sitting on the sidelines an post goofy stuff like I try to do.  Trying to win an argument here is like this:
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You might consider farking off when people are spreading dangerous lies during a pandemic and you defend them doing so.


C*nts going to c*nt.
 
2020-05-19 9:57:22 PM  

khitsicker: the DC metro area too. MD started reopening last week and today is a record high for daily infections. after a week of 800ish per day we have had 1800+ in the last 24h.


Oh goodie.
 
2020-05-19 9:58:43 PM  

khitsicker: the DC metro area too. MD started reopening last week and today is a record high for daily infections. after a week of 800ish per day we have had 1800+ in the last 24h.


Also, I know we're fortunate enough to have a re-lockdown plan in place.  I thought a spike would result in another shutdown
 
2020-05-19 10:04:40 PM  
Austin, TX here, and I guarantee that what I saw on Mother's Day when I took a drive is part of this. Oblivious..
 
2020-05-19 10:31:00 PM  

FlippityFlap: Austin, TX here, and I guarantee that what I saw on Mother's Day when I took a drive is part of this. Oblivious..


I just had a Zoom mtg with a relative in Austin, and that sounds consistent. She's livid over so many people ignoring all rules.

And even if they're not riles but guidelines, people with enough room to give her six feet of distance on the sidewalk just ... don't, even if they see her. She thinks it's because she wears a mask. IAC, she says behaviors in pedestrian traffic and grocery shopping are basically the same as they were before Covid-19. 🤬
 
2020-05-20 12:08:52 AM  
I expect that in the coming weeks, NO red states will report their coronavirus infections. They will operate like little Soviet states, withholding information from their own citizenry. Sounds like freedom!

Mer'ca!
 
2020-05-20 12:36:25 AM  

UberDave: Not surprising at all.  Two weeks ago, when Captain Pike announced the reopening, I was hoping that the numbers wouldn't go up but I was still skeptical.  Any hope I had was steadily dashed over the last two weeks as I watched the how the "no mask" people behaved.

/Texas


Same. Memorial day is this coming weekend, and I expect a pretty big spike then.  I'm staying quarnteened until I see the numbers go down. I'm thankful I have a job that allows me to work 100% from home and I will be through the remainder of the year.  I'm beyond pissed that the GOP has left the working men and women of this country out in a lurch by pushing for "reopening" the economy rather than just subsidizing folks in the interim.

Those GOP farkwit assholes squandered the time they had bickering and finger pointing rather than using the DPA to start mass producing PPE and coming up with plan on how to get back to work safely. I haven't voted for a Republican in a while, but I will now actively smear and confront every GOP toadie I meet. The GOP is the party for death, for "fark you I got mine", and against everything that is decent that I was taught growing up.

fark them.

/Also Texas
//DFW area
 
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