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(TMZ)   Shutdown causes organ donation shortage. Not enough people dying in car accidents. Not enough people allowed to live free and donate   (tmz.com) divider line
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2020-05-19 3:40:09 PM  
Had a guy in front of me on a donor-cycle trying his damnedest, popping wheelies on Route 102 in fairly heavy traffic.  I don't hate cyclists in general, but a lot of the crotch-rocket crowd are dangerous fools.
 
2020-05-19 3:42:18 PM  
Also suspension of "elective" surgeries means no living donor donations, since the dying person who needs an organ is considered to be having an emergency, but the living donor "electing" to donate is not.

Just hoping my daughter's liver holds up through all of this. So far, so good.
 
2020-05-19 4:02:20 PM  

Action Replay Nick: Also suspension of "elective" surgeries means no living donor donations, since the dying person who needs an organ is considered to be having an emergency, but the living donor "electing" to donate is not.

Just hoping my daughter's liver holds up through all of this. So far, so good.


Same for my son's kidney.
 
2020-05-19 4:16:46 PM  
Not that anybody would be willing to put this on the priority list now, but this would be a good opportunity to change organ donation from opt-in, to opt-out.  Other countries, like Australia have gone this route and have seen organ donations rise significantly.

In the U.S. as many as 40% of otherwise eligible donors do not have their organs donated because hospitals cannot affirmatively obtain consent.  Models of a hypothetical opt-out system in the U.S. concluded we could collectively gain anywhere from 5,000 to 11,000 years of life over a 10 year period by switching to an opt-out system.

Opt-out wouldn't deprive anyone of the choice of whether or not to donate - it's the same choice just with a different default answer.  And as a practical matter, most hospitals would continue to ask the families for consent.  After all, it's long been known that when families of people who die in hospitals feel like they've been treated well and with empathy, they're less likely to sue, even when a viable claim for malpractice exists.

And, some people have reported feeling better about donating a loved one's in an opt-out system, because it's basically a trolley problem.  There's a class of people who wouldn't flip the trolley switch because to them, taking an action that would kill one person is worse than inaction that kills five.  But opt-out takes much of the moral dilemma away - now inaction saves 5 at the cost of 1, while acting kills 5 (and doesn't actually "save' the one, unless you have particular religious beliefs around bodily integrity).  There's really no reason we shouldn't have an opt-out system.
 
2020-05-19 4:43:57 PM  
Has the supply of fentanyl-laced drugs dried up already? Seems like there was a steady supply of donated organs for a while there, as long as you didn't mind a little treatable Hepatitis with your new gizzards.
 
2020-05-19 5:46:17 PM  
Should re-impliment bounty hunting.
Offer $500 a pop you'll have kidneys to spare.
 
2020-05-19 6:06:05 PM  

LOLITROLU: Should re-impliment bounty hunting.
Offer $500 a pop you'll have kidneys to spare.


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2020-05-19 6:47:38 PM  

Nuuu: Not that anybody would be willing to put this on the priority list now, but this would be a good opportunity to change organ donation from opt-in, to opt-out.  Other countries, like Australia have gone this route and have seen organ donations rise significantly.

In the U.S. as many as 40% of otherwise eligible donors do not have their organs donated because hospitals cannot affirmatively obtain consent.  Models of a hypothetical opt-out system in the U.S. concluded we could collectively gain anywhere from 5,000 to 11,000 years of life over a 10 year period by switching to an opt-out system.

Opt-out wouldn't deprive anyone of the choice of whether or not to donate - it's the same choice just with a different default answer.  And as a practical matter, most hospitals would continue to ask the families for consent.  After all, it's long been known that when families of people who die in hospitals feel like they've been treated well and with empathy, they're less likely to sue, even when a viable claim for malpractice exists.

And, some people have reported feeling better about donating a loved one's in an opt-out system, because it's basically a trolley problem.  There's a class of people who wouldn't flip the trolley switch because to them, taking an action that would kill one person is worse than inaction that kills five.  But opt-out takes much of the moral dilemma away - now inaction saves 5 at the cost of 1, while acting kills 5 (and doesn't actually "save' the one, unless you have particular religious beliefs around bodily integrity).  There's really no reason we shouldn't have an opt-out system.



Where this has been done, do they still harvest if they can't find evidence one way or the other? That's my concern with it. You arrive without your wallet, so they assume you didn't opt out.

There are cases of sincere objections, religious or otherwise, and they should be protected. Doctors should do no harm, even after death.

But if they only harvest if they do have your driver's license and the opt-out isn't checked, then I think it's a great idea.
 
2020-05-19 6:58:52 PM  
lots of corona kidneys, use them
 
2020-05-19 7:19:37 PM  

some_beer_drinker: lots of corona kidneys, use them


Could be a waste of perfectly good medicine and supplies, unless they can also cure the corona after. Still, I suppose an infected kidney is better than no kidney at all.
 
2020-05-19 7:47:07 PM  
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"There just aren't enough accidents.  It's unethical and time consuming to go out and cause them."
 
2020-05-19 11:03:41 PM  
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