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(Politico)   Trump to WHO: I'm cutting off funding because you ignored reports of Covid-19 spreading in Wuhan including reports the Lancet Journal published in December. The Lancet to Trump: WTF are you talking about? We didn't publish any such thing   (politico.com) divider line
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2020-05-19 2:51:42 PM  
Lancet....  The word you are looking for is Lancet.
 
2020-05-19 2:58:30 PM  
That Trump lies as casually as breathing? Yeah we know that.  But FFS is there NO aide or assistant who has even basic competency and could run a basic fact check on this stuff so the President of the United States isn't caught out in an EASILY provable lie.   Forget Trump, that office represents US as a country and we pay these people six figure salaries.   Don't WE deserve better?
 
2020-05-19 3:30:29 PM  
Just a quick update from a prior post of mine... Between trying to blame Fauci and the WHO, it's safe to tick the next box.

☑ Do something willfully negligent
☑ Admit thing was done didn't fix anything
☑ Stay the course
☑ Suppress and deflect mounting evidence of bad decision that desperately needs reversing.
☑ Continue staying the course as people die in droves, claim you're doing an awesome job and things could be worse.
Someone needs to be held accountable now that there's concrete proof of wrongdoing. Definitely not person responsible.
☐ Stay the course, "because it's too late to do anything now. Better just push through."
☐ It's too soon to talk about all those deaths or changing things, otherwise they died for nothing.
 
2020-05-19 3:36:38 PM  
Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.
 
2020-05-19 4:09:53 PM  

Magorn: That Trump lies as casually as breathing? Yeah we know that.  But FFS is there NO aide or assistant who has even basic competency and could run a basic fact check on this stuff so the President of the United States isn't caught out in an EASILY provable lie.   Forget Trump, that office represents US as a country and we pay these people six figure salaries.   Don't WE deserve better?


Nothing matters anymore.
 
2020-05-19 4:13:41 PM  

duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.


L. Don Tubbard
 
2020-05-19 4:20:07 PM  
Subby, caught sayof headline
 
2020-05-19 4:32:27 PM  

GardenWeasel: duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.

L. Don Tubbard


You might say I... fat-fingered that one?
 
2020-05-19 4:41:54 PM  
The to Trump.
Such as.
 
2020-05-19 4:53:26 PM  

koder: Just a quick update from a prior post of mine... Between trying to blame Fauci and the WHO, it's safe to tick the next box.

☑ Do something willfully negligent
☑ Admit thing was done didn't fix anything
☑ Stay the course
☑ Suppress and deflect mounting evidence of bad decision that desperately needs reversing.
☑ Continue staying the course as people die in droves, claim you're doing an awesome job and things could be worse.
☑ Someone needs to be held accountable now that there's concrete proof of wrongdoing. Definitely not person responsible.
☐ Stay the course, "because it's too late to do anything now. Better just push through."
☐ It's too soon to talk about all those deaths or changing things, otherwise they died for nothing.


Somewhere you need to get on this list that promises are being made for important things like testing, and there is actually nothing in sight for that.
 
2020-05-19 4:53:33 PM  

Ambivalence: Nothing matters anymore.


Except for the newest distractions!
 
2020-05-19 4:54:06 PM  

GardenWeasel: duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.

L. Don Tubbard


As someone approaching 'fluffy', I hereby authorize use of this term for Donny without it being considered "fat shaming".
 
2020-05-19 4:54:45 PM  
Doesn't matter. Trump says they published it in December, that will be repeated as Truth.
 
2020-05-19 4:55:38 PM  
The who?
 
2020-05-19 4:56:24 PM  
I'm sure Trump will get right on correcting that mistake and letting the world know that he erred.

Orrrrr, he'll double down and call the Lancet a bunch of losers and then triple down and call for the US to nuke the Lancet.
 
2020-05-19 4:56:45 PM  

duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.


Do you want to adjust that to L. Don Tubbard?
 
2020-05-19 4:57:19 PM  
The first bullet in the letter does not specifically state that the article was published in December so perhaps you could say it is not a lie.  However, it definitely implies that is was published in December so it is obviously misleading to say the least.
 
2020-05-19 4:57:21 PM  

GardenWeasel: duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.

L. Don Tubbard


Okay, nevermind
 
2020-05-19 4:57:33 PM  
He never could keep all of his lies straight.
 
2020-05-19 4:57:39 PM  
They also ignored a paper published in The Lancet showing that vaccines cause autism.  Those bastards!
 
2020-05-19 4:58:22 PM  
The to Trump:

I think I'm pregnant now.
 
2020-05-19 4:59:28 PM  
Is the WHO and Lancet still pretending like there wasn't person to person transmission documented till January.

Some folks can't even conceive of pulling their mouths off of the CCPs cock.

That's why Trump needs to defund the WHO until that brainless Bolshevik running it Hari Karis himself in utter disgrace.
 
2020-05-19 5:00:33 PM  
Headline's fixed!  They're going to scrub our posts!  Run!!!  Get out if yo
 
2020-05-19 5:01:14 PM  
perhaps 'cutting off funding' is trump speak for 'i don't have the funding'?
 
2020-05-19 5:02:07 PM  
Doesn't matter, Trump's comments are out there to the MAGA derpsquad.  Even if mountains of hard evidence were stacked up on their doorstep, not a single one of them will ever admit that Dear Leader may have lied.

Sadly, that's our world now.
 
2020-05-19 5:02:27 PM  
While the virus itself may have been infecting people in Nov/Dec, it wasn't until 27th Dec that a doctor in a Wuhan hospital noticed an unusual cluster of pneumonia patients and reported to it her management. Presumably the Lancet editor owns a time machine.
 
2020-05-19 5:03:11 PM  

duppy: GardenWeasel: duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.

L. Don Tubbard

You might say I... fat-fingered that one?


Well, there's ONE account we can absolutely 100% rule out as belonging to Donald...
 
2020-05-19 5:04:03 PM  
While the US is disengaging and abandoning it's role as a global leader - China is stepping up and filling that role.
 
2020-05-19 5:04:42 PM  

Mrbogey: Is the WHO and Lancet still pretending like there wasn't person to person transmission documented till January.

Some folks can't even conceive of pulling their mouths off of the CCPs cock.


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2020-05-19 5:07:22 PM  
Honestly I'm most perplexed that they bother such otherwise reasonable sounding lies anymore.

They've got their audience hooked, they've got their fixed floor of 35% support no matter what.

Just go on the TV and say 'Words Words Words and furthermore...'

Do it from the golf course.  Do it on the shiatter.  Why bother getting behind the podium?  What possible difference could it make to supporters who have put up with all the lies up to now?

/The answer, of course, is that it sends the 'Libs' in the reality-based world off into endless spirals of debunking, interpreting, and fact-checking.  Just another flavor of stigginit I guess.
 
2020-05-19 5:09:02 PM  
So our entire lack of response for 3 months to the largest pandemic of our lifetime relied on what a couple news articles had to say? I thought we had our own health officials. why ignore what they had to say and just wait for WHO to lead?
 
2020-05-19 5:09:36 PM  
As a Type-1 diabetic, I do love me some Blünt Lancet :

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/make me bleed!!
 
2020-05-19 5:09:44 PM  

Isitoveryet: perhaps 'cutting off funding' is trump speak for 'i don't have the funding'?


No, it's the typical "first move" in Weak Donnie's tiny bag of negotiating tricks, which is mostly PR crap.

Trick 1: threaten
Trick 2: announce the deal made in his favor (this is usually made through one of his alter egos)
Trick 3: lie about how much money he has/will make from the deal (or will lose from the deal/not making the deal)
Trick 4: FUD the people he's negotiating with
Trick 5: get bored, move on to the next thing while claiming he was never really interested in the first thing to begin with

At some point between tricks 4 & 5, he will have lost his shiat and given away everything.
 
2020-05-19 5:09:49 PM  

Magorn: That Trump lies as casually as breathing? Yeah we know that.  But FFS is there NO aide or assistant who has even basic competency and could run a basic fact check on this stuff so the President of the United States isn't caught out in an EASILY provable lie.   Forget Trump, that office represents US as a country and we pay these people six figure salaries.   Don't WE deserve better?


He has to have people telling him this crap. Where did he ever get that thought?
 
2020-05-19 5:10:56 PM  
Convince Trump it's pronounced The Lan Say

/why?
//for shiats and giggles
///that's why
 
2020-05-19 5:11:48 PM  

Short Victoria's War: Convince Trump it's pronounced The Lan Say

/why?
//for shiats and giggles
///that's why


Well, it is French ...
 
2020-05-19 5:14:50 PM  
Taking a page from Trump's playbook, the WHO should just announce the changes Trump wants.  They don't have to implement anything, Trump isn't curious enough to follow up.
 
2020-05-19 5:16:40 PM  
It's cool. Some rando on Twitter made up some crap that he's basing his entire policy on.
 
2020-05-19 5:25:41 PM  
The same Lancet that published this:
The COVID-19 pandemic continues to worsen in the USA with 1·3 million cases and an estimated death toll of 80684 as of May 12. States that were initially the hardest hit, such as New York and New Jersey, have decelerated the rate of infections and deaths after the implementation of 2 months of lockdown. However, the emergence of new outbreaks in Minnesota, where the stay-at-home order is set to lift in mid-May, and Iowa, which did not enact any restrictions on movement or commerce, has prompted pointed new questions about the inconsistent and incoherent national response to the COVID-19 crisis.
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the flagship agency for the nation's public health, has seen its role minimised and become an ineffective and nominal adviser in the response to contain the spread of the virus. The strained relationship between the CDC and the federal government was further laid bare when, according to The Washington Post, Deborah Birx, the head of the US COVID-19 Task Force and a former director of the CDC's Global HIV/AIDS Division, cast doubt on the CDC's COVID-19 mortality and case data by reportedly saying: "There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust". This is an unhelpful statement, but also a shocking indictment of an agency that was once regarded as the gold standard for global disease detection and control. How did an agency that was the first point of contact for many national health authorities facing a public health threat become so ill-prepared to protect the public's health?

In the decades following its founding in 1946, the CDC became a national pillar of public health and globally respected. It trained cadres of applied epidemiologists to be deployed in the USA and abroad. CDC scientists have helped to discover new viruses and develop accurate tests for them. CDC support was instrumental in helping WHO to eradicate smallpox. However, funding to the CDC for a long time has been subject to conservative politics that have increasingly eroded the agency's ability to mount effective, evidence-based public health responses. In the 1980s, the Reagan administration resisted providing the sufficient budget that the CDC needed to fight the HIV/AIDS crisis. The George W Bush administration put restrictions on global and domestic HIV prevention and reproductive health programming.
The Trump administration further chipped away at the CDC's capacity to combat infectious diseases. CDC staff in China were cut back with the last remaining CDC officer recalled home from the China CDC in July, 2019, leaving an intelligence vacuum when COVID-19 began to emerge. In a press conference on Feb 25, Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, warned US citizens to prepare for major disruptions to movement and everyday life. Messonnier subsequently no longer appeared at White House briefings on COVID-19. More recently, the Trump administration has questioned guidelines that the CDC has provided. These actions have undermined the CDC's leadership and its work during the COVID-19 pandemic.
There is no doubt that the CDC has made mistakes, especially on testing in the early stages of the pandemic. The agency was so convinced that it had contained the virus that it retained control of all diagnostic testing for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2, but this was followed by the admission on Feb 12 that the CDC had developed faulty test kits. The USA is still nowhere near able to provide the basic surveillance or laboratory testing infrastructure needed to combat the COVID-19 pandemic.
But punishing the agency by marginalising and hobbling it is not the solution. The Administration is obsessed with magic bullets-vaccines, new medicines, or a hope that the virus will simply disappear. But only a steadfast reliance on basic public health principles, like test, trace, and isolate, will see the emergency brought to an end, and this requires an effective national public health agency. The CDC needs a director who can provide leadership without the threat of being silenced and who has the technical capacity to lead today's complicated effort.
The Trump administration's further erosion of the CDC will harm global cooperation in science and public health, as it is trying to do by defunding WHO. A strong CDC is needed to respond to public health threats, both domestic and international, and to help prevent the next inevitable pandemic. Americans must put a president in the White House come January, 2021, who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics.

/ Medical Journals almost never do this type of thing
 
2020-05-19 5:29:26 PM  
The president has repeatedly railed against the WHO and its director-general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus

Look people, just because there are 26 letters in the alphabet, it doesn't mean that you have to use ALL Of them in a single name. This isn't like that government thing where if you don't use all of this year's budget, you lose the extra money. You can still use the letters even if you don't put them in a name.

On a related note, I set up a user at work who had 23 letters between his first name and last. They weren't all unique, but Jesus, those types of names suck when you are setting up new user accounts. :-)
 
2020-05-19 5:30:11 PM  
Wait, you mean to tell me that Trump isn't honest with his presentation of what he perceives as facts?

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2020-05-19 5:30:44 PM  
What damage can this possibly do?

Well, Trump supporters are already presenting this as fact because TRUMP said it.
 
2020-05-19 5:36:04 PM  

duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.


Oh what do they know.  Any trailer trash trump supporter would tell you that they know more about doctoring than Lance.  In fact, those know-it-all doctors are siding with the deep state to keep chloroquin and bleach from MAGAt-americans.
 
2020-05-19 5:41:10 PM  

Mrbogey: Is the WHO and Lancet still pretending like there wasn't person to person transmission documented till January.

Some folks can't even conceive of pulling their mouths off of the CCPs cock.

That's why Trump needs to defund the WHO until that brainless Bolshevik running it Hari Karis himself in utter disgrace.


Gosh. I want to believe you and switch sides. This is your opportunity to grow Trump's base instead of watching it continue to shrink as the coronavirus continues:

Can you link me to the WHO articles and Lancet articles from December 2019 that you read to determine that Trump is right to defund the WHO?

This is important. Your side can win if you don't start doing this.
 
2020-05-19 5:45:49 PM  

Unright: Mrbogey: Is the WHO and Lancet still pretending like there wasn't person to person transmission documented till January.

Some folks can't even conceive of pulling their mouths off of the CCPs cock.

That's why Trump needs to defund the WHO until that brainless Bolshevik running it Hari Karis himself in utter disgrace.

Gosh. I want to believe you and switch sides. This is your opportunity to grow Trump's base instead of watching it continue to shrink as the coronavirus continues:

Can you link me to the WHO articles and Lancet articles from December 2019 that you read to determine that Trump is right to defund the WHO?

This is important. Your side can win if you don't start doing this.


Do you deny there was person to person transmission known in December?

The WHO intentionally stuck its head in the ground because the CCP told them to.

That's the point. The WHO subverted science to CCP political interests. Saying "Here Herr, we were lying back then too!" isn't as strong a defense from Lancet as you might think.
 
2020-05-19 5:57:37 PM  

AngryTeacher: Lancet....  The word you are looking for is Lancet.


I'm sorry, but the correct answer is "What is the Lancet." Be sure to phrase your answer in the form of a question.
 
2020-05-19 6:09:43 PM  

Mrbogey: The WHO intentionally stuck its head in the ground because the CCP told them to.


Citation needed. Of course...
 
2020-05-19 6:13:27 PM  

Brandi Morgan: While the US is disengaging and abandoning it's role as a global leader - China is stepping up and filling that role.


And President Trump's constant lies are giving them the openings and excuses to get away from investigations. "This isnt about right or wrong, it is Trump's vendetta against China"
 
2020-05-19 6:23:12 PM  

Mikey1969: Mrbogey: The WHO intentionally stuck its head in the ground because the CCP told them to.

Citation needed. Of course...


Time Magazine
 
2020-05-19 6:24:11 PM  

Magorn: That Trump lies as casually as breathing? Yeah we know that.  But FFS is there NO aide or assistant who has even basic competency and could run a basic fact check on this stuff so the President of the United States isn't caught out in an EASILY provable lie.   Forget Trump, that office represents US as a country and we pay these people six figure salaries.   Don't WE deserve better?


Sadly, no. You 'elected' him. These days, POTUS has about the same global credibility as Xi...
 
2020-05-19 6:43:29 PM  
once again, Trump attack a critic with blatant lies.

nothing new here.
 
2020-05-19 6:46:49 PM  

Mrbogey: Mikey1969: Mrbogey: The WHO intentionally stuck its head in the ground because the CCP told them to.

Citation needed. Of course...

Time Magazine


Oh look, I had to dig all of the way to the second sentence to find the problem with your absolutist take on thsi...

Taiwanese and U.S. officials have seized on the email to argue the WHO ignored an early warning that the coronavirus could likely be transmitted between people. In the weeks following the Dec. 31 note, the WHO echoed Chinese officials that there was "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission"- even as cases began cropping up that raised suspicion of contagion.

I can find examples of the difference between "clear evidence" and "suspicion" if you would like. Because they aren't actually the same thing.

And here's your "bombshell" email:

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https://www.neweurope.eu/article/taiw​a​n-releases-december-email-to-who-showi​ng-unheeded-warning-about-coronavirus/​

They just asked for more information, said NOTHING about human to human transmission, and said "Well, we know it isn't SARS".

That's what you're basing this on? Because that's what the Time article is about. I can't believe that you're crowing from the rooftops about an inquiry for more info. Taiwan didn't point to actual evidence, they were just asking about a report they'd heard. Jesus, you TrumpFarkers will believe anything if Merkin Man says it, won't you? He didn't read this email, he just saw this stupid shiat on Twitter and decided to run with it.

Come back when you've actually GOT something.
 
2020-05-19 6:51:23 PM  

Mikey1969: Mrbogey: Mikey1969: Mrbogey: The WHO intentionally stuck its head in the ground because the CCP told them to.

Citation needed. Of course...

Time Magazine

Oh look, I had to dig all of the way to the second sentence to find the problem with your absolutist take on thsi...

Taiwanese and U.S. officials have seized on the email to argue the WHO ignored an early warning that the coronavirus could likely be transmitted between people. In the weeks following the Dec. 31 note, the WHO echoed Chinese officials that there was "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission"- even as cases began cropping up that raised suspicion of contagion.

I can find examples of the difference between "clear evidence" and "suspicion" if you would like. Because they aren't actually the same thing.

And here's your "bombshell" email:

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https://www.neweurope.eu/article/taiwa​n-releases-december-email-to-who-showi​ng-unheeded-warning-about-coronavirus/

They just asked for more information, said NOTHING about human to human transmission, and said "Well, we know it isn't SARS".

That's what you're basing this on? Because that's what the Time article is about. I can't believe that you're crowing from the rooftops about an inquiry for more info. Taiwan didn't point to actual evidence, they were just asking about a report they'd heard. Jesus, you TrumpFarkers will believe anything if Merkin Man says it, won't you? He didn't read this email, he just saw this stupid shiat on Twitter and decided to run with it.

Come back when you've actually GOT something.


They asked for more info because they knew the WHO position was wrong. That's them being polite in their correspondence.

Anyone who thinks for a second there wasn't person to person transmission known about in December by China is literally an idiot or on the take.

So, you obviously haven't been paid by the CCP so that tells us what category you fall into.
 
2020-05-19 7:07:35 PM  
The President of the United States is insane. No one will stand up and have him evaluated.

We are a nation of lemmings in a banana republic.
 
2020-05-19 7:27:08 PM  

Mrbogey: Mikey1969: Mrbogey: Mikey1969: Mrbogey: The WHO intentionally stuck its head in the ground because the CCP told them to.

Citation needed. Of course...

Time Magazine

Oh look, I had to dig all of the way to the second sentence to find the problem with your absolutist take on thsi...

Taiwanese and U.S. officials have seized on the email to argue the WHO ignored an early warning that the coronavirus could likely be transmitted between people. In the weeks following the Dec. 31 note, the WHO echoed Chinese officials that there was "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission"- even as cases began cropping up that raised suspicion of contagion.

I can find examples of the difference between "clear evidence" and "suspicion" if you would like. Because they aren't actually the same thing.

And here's your "bombshell" email:

[pbs.twimg.com image 850x601]

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/taiwa​n-releases-december-email-to-who-showi​ng-unheeded-warning-about-coronavirus/

They just asked for more information, said NOTHING about human to human transmission, and said "Well, we know it isn't SARS".

That's what you're basing this on? Because that's what the Time article is about. I can't believe that you're crowing from the rooftops about an inquiry for more info. Taiwan didn't point to actual evidence, they were just asking about a report they'd heard. Jesus, you TrumpFarkers will believe anything if Merkin Man says it, won't you? He didn't read this email, he just saw this stupid shiat on Twitter and decided to run with it.

Come back when you've actually GOT something.

They asked for more info because they knew the WHO position was wrong. That's them being polite in their correspondence.

Anyone who thinks for a second there wasn't person to person transmission known about in December by China is literally an idiot or on the take.

So, you obviously haven't been paid by the CCP so that tells us what category you fall into.


It's not a bombshell in anyway. Only morons think it is. They asked because a new disease seemed to be cropping up. And talk about someplace with an axe to grind. Come back when you have someone who isn't Taiwan. Of course they want us to distrust China, and anyone else they can wrap up in the dispute is just icing on the cake. Besides, Taiwan sent this email the same day that China announced to the world they had a new disease in Wuhan that they were monitoring, so I still don't know what you thinks this proves. There's no smocking gun there, no covfefe. It's just not there.

For the record, I don't trust China. I'm just not dumb enough to chant "Hurr, durr!! WHO is part of the Deep State trying to take down Donald Trump."
 
2020-05-19 7:31:04 PM  

Mikey1969: Mrbogey: Mikey1969: Mrbogey: Mikey1969: Mrbogey: The WHO intentionally stuck its head in the ground because the CCP told them to.

Citation needed. Of course...

Time Magazine

Oh look, I had to dig all of the way to the second sentence to find the problem with your absolutist take on thsi...

Taiwanese and U.S. officials have seized on the email to argue the WHO ignored an early warning that the coronavirus could likely be transmitted between people. In the weeks following the Dec. 31 note, the WHO echoed Chinese officials that there was "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission"- even as cases began cropping up that raised suspicion of contagion.

I can find examples of the difference between "clear evidence" and "suspicion" if you would like. Because they aren't actually the same thing.

And here's your "bombshell" email:

[pbs.twimg.com image 850x601]

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/taiwa​n-releases-december-email-to-who-showi​ng-unheeded-warning-about-coronavirus/

They just asked for more information, said NOTHING about human to human transmission, and said "Well, we know it isn't SARS".

That's what you're basing this on? Because that's what the Time article is about. I can't believe that you're crowing from the rooftops about an inquiry for more info. Taiwan didn't point to actual evidence, they were just asking about a report they'd heard. Jesus, you TrumpFarkers will believe anything if Merkin Man says it, won't you? He didn't read this email, he just saw this stupid shiat on Twitter and decided to run with it.

Come back when you've actually GOT something.

They asked for more info because they knew the WHO position was wrong. That's them being polite in their correspondence.

Anyone who thinks for a second there wasn't person to person transmission known about in December by China is literally an idiot or on the take.

So, you obviously haven't been paid by the CCP so that tells us what category you fall into.

It's not a bombshell in anyway. Only morons think it is. They asked because a new disease seemed to be cropping up. And talk about someplace with an axe to grind. Come back when you have someone who isn't Taiwan. Of course they want us to distrust China, and anyone else they can wrap up in the dispute is just icing on the cake. Besides, Taiwan sent this email the same day that China announced to the world they had a new disease in Wuhan that they were monitoring, so I still don't know what you thinks this proves. There's no smocking gun there, no covfefe. It's just not there.

For the record, I don't trust China. I'm just not dumb enough to chant "Hurr, durr!! WHO is part of the Deep State trying to take down Donald Trump."


I'm sorry that you're gullible enough to believe China wasn't aware of person to person transmission of the virus.

I can't help you understand that you're a sucker.
 
2020-05-19 8:08:50 PM  

Mrbogey: Do you deny there was person to person transmission known in December?


Man, your dipshiat biatch-ass god-emperor didn't do shiat until March, where's your outrage with that?
 
2020-05-19 8:15:30 PM  

Bloody William: Mrbogey: Do you deny there was person to person transmission known in December?

Man, your dipshiat biatch-ass god-emperor didn't do shiat until March, where's your outrage with that?


Trump is on record taking action on January. Action that went against WHO advice. Action that was later proven to be a good move.
 
2020-05-19 8:17:33 PM  

Mrbogey: Trump is on record taking action on January.


Bullshiat, and his "China ban" didn't actually deal with, you know, people coming here from China. And besides that, he didn't lift a farking finger to deal with the growing pandemic for another two goddamn months.
 
2020-05-19 8:25:46 PM  

Bloody William: Mrbogey: Trump is on record taking action on January.

Bullshiat, and his "China ban" didn't actually deal with, you know, people coming here from China. And besides that, he didn't lift a farking finger to deal with the growing pandemic for another two goddamn months.


Trump stopped foreigners from China coming into the US. He doesn't have the power normally to tell Americans they can't enter America.

Stopping Chinese from entering slowed down the spread to America.

As opposed to Democrats like Pelosi and DeBlasio who were on record urging people to mingle in crowds and not worry about the virus. Christ, DeBlasio was telling folks to go to the YMCA in March. Trump was at least being optimistic and thinking he had it contained. You'd think Cuomo gets off on watching old folks die with his body count.
 
2020-05-19 8:30:58 PM  
Mrbogey:

Trump stopped foreigners from China coming into the US. He doesn't have the power normally to tell Americans they can't enter America.

Not so much. There were exceptions for Americans, and the government absolutely has the power to enforce quarantine measures for anyone, citizen or otherwise, coming in from a place where an outbreak has occurred.

Stopping Chinese from entering slowed down the spread to America.

Ha, how did that help now that we have the most cases and most deaths in the world? And before you fuh fuh fuh BUT CHINA LIED! again with that weak bullshiat (Yeah, they probably did, and it doesn't change Trump's inaction), how about we focus on the government, Trump's government, shiatting the bed with any kind of coordinated response to a global farking pandemic.

As opposed to Democrats like Pelosi and DeBlasio who were on record urging people to mingle in crowds and not worry about the virus. Christ, DeBlasio was telling folks to go to the YMCA in March. Trump was at least being optimistic and thinking he had it contained. You'd think Cuomo gets off on watching old folks die with his body count.

DeBlasio and Pelosi were wrong early on. How does that change that Trump and his administration didn't do a farking thing to address the pandemic until months later?

Keep talking about China lying. Keep talking about Pelosi and Chinatown. Keep talking about DeBlasio. None of those things change the fact that the president completely failed to coordinate and lead anyh form of national response to the pandemic for two goddamn months.

You reach back to January for excuses while forgetting just how long it took after anyh of that for Trump to do anything besides a tepid "China ban" that completely failed to prevent the spread of infection.
 
2020-05-19 8:37:56 PM  

Theory Of Null: So our entire lack of response for 3 months to the largest pandemic of our lifetime relied on what a couple news articles had to say? I thought we had our own health officials. why ignore what they had to say and just wait for WHO to lead?


Because!
 
2020-05-19 8:47:39 PM  

Mrbogey: Bloody William: Mrbogey: Trump is on record taking action on January.

Bullshiat, and his "China ban" didn't actually deal with, you know, people coming here from China. And besides that, he didn't lift a farking finger to deal with the growing pandemic for another two goddamn months.

Trump stopped foreigners from China coming into the US. He doesn't have the power normally to tell Americans they can't enter America.

Stopping Chinese from entering slowed down the spread to America.

As opposed to Democrats like Pelosi and DeBlasio who were on record urging people to mingle in crowds and not worry about the virus. Christ, DeBlasio was telling folks to go to the YMCA in March. Trump was at least being optimistic and thinking he had it contained. You'd think Cuomo gets off on watching old folks die with his body count.


That's nice.

Now: why didnt we get a nationwide shutdown, or testing, or get national production ordered when it was clear there was a ventilator shortfall? Why did we waste so much time on drugs known not to be effective, and arguing about who was at fault instead of trying to end the crisis?

Trump screwed the pooch here. Whether or not China lied is irrelevant. Once the epidemic was here, he had to respond to it, and he farked up.
 
2020-05-19 9:01:21 PM  

Bloody William: Mrbogey:

Trump stopped foreigners from China coming into the US. He doesn't have the power normally to tell Americans they can't enter America.

Not so much. There were exceptions for Americans, and the government absolutely has the power to enforce quarantine measures for anyone, citizen or otherwise, coming in from a place where an outbreak has occurred.

Stopping Chinese from entering slowed down the spread to America.

Ha, how did that help now that we have the most cases and most deaths in the world? And before you fuh fuh fuh BUT CHINA LIED! again with that weak bullshiat (Yeah, they probably did, and it doesn't change Trump's inaction), how about we focus on the government, Trump's government, shiatting the bed with any kind of coordinated response to a global farking pandemic.

As opposed to Democrats like Pelosi and DeBlasio who were on record urging people to mingle in crowds and not worry about the virus. Christ, DeBlasio was telling folks to go to the YMCA in March. Trump was at least being optimistic and thinking he had it contained. You'd think Cuomo gets off on watching old folks die with his body count.

DeBlasio and Pelosi were wrong early on. How does that change that Trump and his administration didn't do a farking thing to address the pandemic until months later?

Keep talking about China lying. Keep talking about Pelosi and Chinatown. Keep talking about DeBlasio. None of those things change the fact that the president completely failed to coordinate and lead anyh form of national response to the pandemic for two goddamn months.

You reach back to January for excuses while forgetting just how long it took after anyh of that for Trump to do anything besides a tepid "China ban" that completely failed to prevent the spread of infection.


"Not so much"

Not so much? Holy shiat... Dude. American citizens aren't foreigners. You read what I wrote then proceeded to not understand it while viciously masturbating about stuff you've no clue on.

But sure, you got a point, if we ignore how mind boggling stupid the average Democrat is and how completely stupid their reactions were to this virus, then we really can't blame them!!

There is only so much Trump can do. He simply wasn't prepared for the incompetency of Democrats at all levels.
 
2020-05-19 9:02:19 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Mrbogey: Bloody William: Mrbogey: Trump is on record taking action on January.

Bullshiat, and his "China ban" didn't actually deal with, you know, people coming here from China. And besides that, he didn't lift a farking finger to deal with the growing pandemic for another two goddamn months.

Trump stopped foreigners from China coming into the US. He doesn't have the power normally to tell Americans they can't enter America.

Stopping Chinese from entering slowed down the spread to America.

As opposed to Democrats like Pelosi and DeBlasio who were on record urging people to mingle in crowds and not worry about the virus. Christ, DeBlasio was telling folks to go to the YMCA in March. Trump was at least being optimistic and thinking he had it contained. You'd think Cuomo gets off on watching old folks die with his body count.

That's nice.

Now: why didnt we get a nationwide shutdown, or testing, or get national production ordered when it was clear there was a ventilator shortfall? Why did we waste so much time on drugs known not to be effective, and arguing about who was at fault instead of trying to end the crisis?

Trump screwed the pooch here. Whether or not China lied is irrelevant. Once the epidemic was here, he had to respond to it, and he farked up.


Ventilator shortfall?

You're about a month late on that talking point. Nobody is struggling to get ventilators. Trump was ahead of the curve on that.
 
2020-05-19 9:11:37 PM  

Mrbogey: Gyrfalcon: Mrbogey: Bloody William: Mrbogey: Trump is on record taking action on January.

Bullshiat, and his "China ban" didn't actually deal with, you know, people coming here from China. And besides that, he didn't lift a farking finger to deal with the growing pandemic for another two goddamn months.

Trump stopped foreigners from China coming into the US. He doesn't have the power normally to tell Americans they can't enter America.

Stopping Chinese from entering slowed down the spread to America.

As opposed to Democrats like Pelosi and DeBlasio who were on record urging people to mingle in crowds and not worry about the virus. Christ, DeBlasio was telling folks to go to the YMCA in March. Trump was at least being optimistic and thinking he had it contained. You'd think Cuomo gets off on watching old folks die with his body count.

That's nice.

Now: why didnt we get a nationwide shutdown, or testing, or get national production ordered when it was clear there was a ventilator shortfall? Why did we waste so much time on drugs known not to be effective, and arguing about who was at fault instead of trying to end the crisis?

Trump screwed the pooch here. Whether or not China lied is irrelevant. Once the epidemic was here, he had to respond to it, and he farked up.

Ventilator shortfall?

You're about a month late on that talking point. Nobody is struggling to get ventilators. Trump was ahead of the curve on that.


140,000.
 
2020-05-19 9:16:15 PM  

Mrbogey: There is only so much Trump can do. He simply wasn't prepared for the incompetency of Democrats at all levels.


Over 90,000 dead Americans because he failed to act in any meaningful way for months.

The fact that you can't face that, and keep trying to pawn off the responsibility onto Democrats and China? Speaks volumes about how shiatty your standards are and how much you just have to carry water for your dipshiat failson god-emperor.

Trump's the president. He failed to act for months. More Americans have died from the virus than died in the Vietnam war. He's in charge, he takes some of the blame whether you deflect wildly or not.
 
2020-05-19 9:46:57 PM  

Mrbogey: Mikey1969: Mrbogey: Mikey1969: Mrbogey: Mikey1969: Mrbogey: The WHO intentionally stuck its head in the ground because the CCP told them to.

Citation needed. Of course...

Time Magazine

Oh look, I had to dig all of the way to the second sentence to find the problem with your absolutist take on thsi...

Taiwanese and U.S. officials have seized on the email to argue the WHO ignored an early warning that the coronavirus could likely be transmitted between people. In the weeks following the Dec. 31 note, the WHO echoed Chinese officials that there was "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission"- even as cases began cropping up that raised suspicion of contagion.

I can find examples of the difference between "clear evidence" and "suspicion" if you would like. Because they aren't actually the same thing.

And here's your "bombshell" email:

[pbs.twimg.com image 850x601]

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/taiwa​n-releases-december-email-to-who-showi​ng-unheeded-warning-about-coronavirus/

They just asked for more information, said NOTHING about human to human transmission, and said "Well, we know it isn't SARS".

That's what you're basing this on? Because that's what the Time article is about. I can't believe that you're crowing from the rooftops about an inquiry for more info. Taiwan didn't point to actual evidence, they were just asking about a report they'd heard. Jesus, you TrumpFarkers will believe anything if Merkin Man says it, won't you? He didn't read this email, he just saw this stupid shiat on Twitter and decided to run with it.

Come back when you've actually GOT something.

They asked for more info because they knew the WHO position was wrong. That's them being polite in their correspondence.

Anyone who thinks for a second there wasn't person to person transmission known about in December by China is literally an idiot or on the take.

So, you obviously haven't been paid by the CCP so that tells us what category you fall into.

It's not a bombshell in anyway. Only morons think it is. They asked because a new disease seemed to be cropping up. And talk about someplace with an axe to grind. Come back when you have someone who isn't Taiwan. Of course they want us to distrust China, and anyone else they can wrap up in the dispute is just icing on the cake. Besides, Taiwan sent this email the same day that China announced to the world they had a new disease in Wuhan that they were monitoring, so I still don't know what you thinks this proves. There's no smocking gun there, no covfefe. It's just not there.

For the record, I don't trust China. I'm just not dumb enough to chant "Hurr, durr!! WHO is part of the Deep State trying to take down Donald Trump."

I'm sorry that you're gullible enough to believe China wasn't aware of person to person transmission of the virus.

I can't help you understand that you're a sucker.


You know, your inability to read is utterly amazing. Can't you find someone else in the trailer park to help you with this? Because you're the kind of dense that is unknown to this reality before now. Maybe if someone else reads this to you, it will help.
 
2020-05-19 10:35:59 PM  

Bloody William: Mrbogey: There is only so much Trump can do. He simply wasn't prepared for the incompetency of Democrats at all levels.

Over 90,000 dead Americans because he failed to act in any meaningful way for months.

The fact that you can't face that, and keep trying to pawn off the responsibility onto Democrats and China? Speaks volumes about how shiatty your standards are and how much you just have to carry water for your dipshiat failson god-emperor.

Trump's the president. He failed to act for months. More Americans have died from the virus than died in the Vietnam war. He's in charge, he takes some of the blame whether you deflect wildly or not.


You're right. Trump's failure to hold Democrats responsible is a failing of his. Hopefully he corrects that and puts folks like Cuomo, Pelosi, Lightfoot, Whitmer, DeBlasio and such on trial. Until they're held to account for their failures, Americans can't trust the government.
 
2020-05-19 10:36:48 PM  

Mikey1969: Mrbogey: Mikey1969: Mrbogey: Mikey1969: Mrbogey: Mikey1969: Mrbogey: The WHO intentionally stuck its head in the ground because the CCP told them to.

Citation needed. Of course...

Time Magazine

Oh look, I had to dig all of the way to the second sentence to find the problem with your absolutist take on thsi...

Taiwanese and U.S. officials have seized on the email to argue the WHO ignored an early warning that the coronavirus could likely be transmitted between people. In the weeks following the Dec. 31 note, the WHO echoed Chinese officials that there was "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission"- even as cases began cropping up that raised suspicion of contagion.

I can find examples of the difference between "clear evidence" and "suspicion" if you would like. Because they aren't actually the same thing.

And here's your "bombshell" email:

[pbs.twimg.com image 850x601]

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/taiwa​n-releases-december-email-to-who-showi​ng-unheeded-warning-about-coronavirus/

They just asked for more information, said NOTHING about human to human transmission, and said "Well, we know it isn't SARS".

That's what you're basing this on? Because that's what the Time article is about. I can't believe that you're crowing from the rooftops about an inquiry for more info. Taiwan didn't point to actual evidence, they were just asking about a report they'd heard. Jesus, you TrumpFarkers will believe anything if Merkin Man says it, won't you? He didn't read this email, he just saw this stupid shiat on Twitter and decided to run with it.

Come back when you've actually GOT something.

They asked for more info because they knew the WHO position was wrong. That's them being polite in their correspondence.

Anyone who thinks for a second there wasn't person to person transmission known about in December by China is literally an idiot or on the take.

So, you obviously haven't been paid by the CCP so that tells us what category you fall into.

It's not a bombshell in anyway. Only morons think it is. They asked because a new disease seemed to be cropping up. And talk about someplace with an axe to grind. Come back when you have someone who isn't Taiwan. Of course they want us to distrust China, and anyone else they can wrap up in the dispute is just icing on the cake. Besides, Taiwan sent this email the same day that China announced to the world they had a new disease in Wuhan that they were monitoring, so I still don't know what you thinks this proves. There's no smocking gun there, no covfefe. It's just not there.

For the record, I don't trust China. I'm just not dumb enough to chant "Hurr, durr!! WHO is part of the Deep State trying to take down Donald Trump."

I'm sorry that you're gullible enough to believe China wasn't aware of person to person transmission of the virus.

I can't help you understand that you're a sucker.

You know, your inability to read is utterly amazing. Can't you find someone else in the trailer park to help you with this? Because you're the kind of dense that is unknown to this reality before now. Maybe if someone else reads this to you, it will help.


You're the guy who said "American citizens are foreigners." Don't lay your illiteracy on my feet.
 
2020-05-19 11:46:46 PM  

bthom37: The who?


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2020-05-20 9:26:44 AM  

Mrbogey: Bloody William: Mrbogey: There is only so much Trump can do. He simply wasn't prepared for the incompetency of Democrats at all levels.

Over 90,000 dead Americans because he failed to act in any meaningful way for months.

The fact that you can't face that, and keep trying to pawn off the responsibility onto Democrats and China? Speaks volumes about how shiatty your standards are and how much you just have to carry water for your dipshiat failson god-emperor.

Trump's the president. He failed to act for months. More Americans have died from the virus than died in the Vietnam war. He's in charge, he takes some of the blame whether you deflect wildly or not.

You're right. Trump's failure to hold Democrats responsible is a failing of his. Hopefully he corrects that and puts folks like Cuomo, Pelosi, Lightfoot, Whitmer, DeBlasio and such on trial. Until they're held to account for their failures, Americans can't trust the government.


LOL this idiot thinks the president can put people on trial for his failures.
 
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