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(Politico)   Trump to WHO: I'm cutting off funding because you ignored reports of Covid-19 spreading in Wuhan including reports the Lancet Journal published in December. The Lancet to Trump: WTF are you talking about? We didn't publish any such thing   (politico.com) divider line
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2020-05-19 2:51:42 PM  
Lancet....  The word you are looking for is Lancet.
 
2020-05-19 2:58:30 PM  
That Trump lies as casually as breathing? Yeah we know that.  But FFS is there NO aide or assistant who has even basic competency and could run a basic fact check on this stuff so the President of the United States isn't caught out in an EASILY provable lie.   Forget Trump, that office represents US as a country and we pay these people six figure salaries.   Don't WE deserve better?
 
2020-05-19 3:30:29 PM  
Just a quick update from a prior post of mine... Between trying to blame Fauci and the WHO, it's safe to tick the next box.

☑ Do something willfully negligent
☑ Admit thing was done didn't fix anything
☑ Stay the course
☑ Suppress and deflect mounting evidence of bad decision that desperately needs reversing.
☑ Continue staying the course as people die in droves, claim you're doing an awesome job and things could be worse.
Someone needs to be held accountable now that there's concrete proof of wrongdoing. Definitely not person responsible.
☐ Stay the course, "because it's too late to do anything now. Better just push through."
☐ It's too soon to talk about all those deaths or changing things, otherwise they died for nothing.
 
2020-05-19 3:36:38 PM  
Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.
 
2020-05-19 4:09:53 PM  

Magorn: That Trump lies as casually as breathing? Yeah we know that.  But FFS is there NO aide or assistant who has even basic competency and could run a basic fact check on this stuff so the President of the United States isn't caught out in an EASILY provable lie.   Forget Trump, that office represents US as a country and we pay these people six figure salaries.   Don't WE deserve better?


Nothing matters anymore.
 
2020-05-19 4:13:41 PM  

duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.


L. Don Tubbard
 
2020-05-19 4:20:07 PM  
Subby, caught sayof headline
 
2020-05-19 4:32:27 PM  

GardenWeasel: duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.

L. Don Tubbard


You might say I... fat-fingered that one?
 
2020-05-19 4:41:54 PM  
The to Trump.
Such as.
 
2020-05-19 4:53:26 PM  

koder: Just a quick update from a prior post of mine... Between trying to blame Fauci and the WHO, it's safe to tick the next box.

☑ Do something willfully negligent
☑ Admit thing was done didn't fix anything
☑ Stay the course
☑ Suppress and deflect mounting evidence of bad decision that desperately needs reversing.
☑ Continue staying the course as people die in droves, claim you're doing an awesome job and things could be worse.
☑ Someone needs to be held accountable now that there's concrete proof of wrongdoing. Definitely not person responsible.
☐ Stay the course, "because it's too late to do anything now. Better just push through."
☐ It's too soon to talk about all those deaths or changing things, otherwise they died for nothing.


Somewhere you need to get on this list that promises are being made for important things like testing, and there is actually nothing in sight for that.
 
2020-05-19 4:53:33 PM  

Ambivalence: Nothing matters anymore.


Except for the newest distractions!
 
2020-05-19 4:54:06 PM  

GardenWeasel: duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.

L. Don Tubbard


As someone approaching 'fluffy', I hereby authorize use of this term for Donny without it being considered "fat shaming".
 
2020-05-19 4:54:45 PM  
Doesn't matter. Trump says they published it in December, that will be repeated as Truth.
 
2020-05-19 4:55:38 PM  
The who?
 
2020-05-19 4:56:24 PM  
I'm sure Trump will get right on correcting that mistake and letting the world know that he erred.

Orrrrr, he'll double down and call the Lancet a bunch of losers and then triple down and call for the US to nuke the Lancet.
 
2020-05-19 4:56:45 PM  

duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.


Do you want to adjust that to L. Don Tubbard?
 
2020-05-19 4:57:19 PM  
The first bullet in the letter does not specifically state that the article was published in December so perhaps you could say it is not a lie.  However, it definitely implies that is was published in December so it is obviously misleading to say the least.
 
2020-05-19 4:57:21 PM  

GardenWeasel: duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.

L. Don Tubbard


Okay, nevermind
 
2020-05-19 4:57:33 PM  
He never could keep all of his lies straight.
 
2020-05-19 4:57:39 PM  
They also ignored a paper published in The Lancet showing that vaccines cause autism.  Those bastards!
 
2020-05-19 4:58:22 PM  
The to Trump:

I think I'm pregnant now.
 
2020-05-19 4:59:28 PM  
Is the WHO and Lancet still pretending like there wasn't person to person transmission documented till January.

Some folks can't even conceive of pulling their mouths off of the CCPs cock.

That's why Trump needs to defund the WHO until that brainless Bolshevik running it Hari Karis himself in utter disgrace.
 
2020-05-19 5:00:33 PM  
Headline's fixed!  They're going to scrub our posts!  Run!!!  Get out if yo
 
2020-05-19 5:01:14 PM  
perhaps 'cutting off funding' is trump speak for 'i don't have the funding'?
 
2020-05-19 5:02:07 PM  
Doesn't matter, Trump's comments are out there to the MAGA derpsquad.  Even if mountains of hard evidence were stacked up on their doorstep, not a single one of them will ever admit that Dear Leader may have lied.

Sadly, that's our world now.
 
2020-05-19 5:02:27 PM  
While the virus itself may have been infecting people in Nov/Dec, it wasn't until 27th Dec that a doctor in a Wuhan hospital noticed an unusual cluster of pneumonia patients and reported to it her management. Presumably the Lancet editor owns a time machine.
 
2020-05-19 5:03:11 PM  

duppy: GardenWeasel: duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.

L. Don Tubbard

You might say I... fat-fingered that one?


Well, there's ONE account we can absolutely 100% rule out as belonging to Donald...
 
2020-05-19 5:04:03 PM  
While the US is disengaging and abandoning it's role as a global leader - China is stepping up and filling that role.
 
2020-05-19 5:04:42 PM  

Mrbogey: Is the WHO and Lancet still pretending like there wasn't person to person transmission documented till January.

Some folks can't even conceive of pulling their mouths off of the CCPs cock.


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2020-05-19 5:07:22 PM  
Honestly I'm most perplexed that they bother such otherwise reasonable sounding lies anymore.

They've got their audience hooked, they've got their fixed floor of 35% support no matter what.

Just go on the TV and say 'Words Words Words and furthermore...'

Do it from the golf course.  Do it on the shiatter.  Why bother getting behind the podium?  What possible difference could it make to supporters who have put up with all the lies up to now?

/The answer, of course, is that it sends the 'Libs' in the reality-based world off into endless spirals of debunking, interpreting, and fact-checking.  Just another flavor of stigginit I guess.
 
2020-05-19 5:09:02 PM  
So our entire lack of response for 3 months to the largest pandemic of our lifetime relied on what a couple news articles had to say? I thought we had our own health officials. why ignore what they had to say and just wait for WHO to lead?
 
2020-05-19 5:09:36 PM  
As a Type-1 diabetic, I do love me some Blünt Lancet :

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/make me bleed!!
 
2020-05-19 5:09:44 PM  

Isitoveryet: perhaps 'cutting off funding' is trump speak for 'i don't have the funding'?


No, it's the typical "first move" in Weak Donnie's tiny bag of negotiating tricks, which is mostly PR crap.

Trick 1: threaten
Trick 2: announce the deal made in his favor (this is usually made through one of his alter egos)
Trick 3: lie about how much money he has/will make from the deal (or will lose from the deal/not making the deal)
Trick 4: FUD the people he's negotiating with
Trick 5: get bored, move on to the next thing while claiming he was never really interested in the first thing to begin with

At some point between tricks 4 & 5, he will have lost his shiat and given away everything.
 
2020-05-19 5:09:49 PM  

Magorn: That Trump lies as casually as breathing? Yeah we know that.  But FFS is there NO aide or assistant who has even basic competency and could run a basic fact check on this stuff so the President of the United States isn't caught out in an EASILY provable lie.   Forget Trump, that office represents US as a country and we pay these people six figure salaries.   Don't WE deserve better?


He has to have people telling him this crap. Where did he ever get that thought?
 
2020-05-19 5:10:56 PM  
Convince Trump it's pronounced The Lan Say

/why?
//for shiats and giggles
///that's why
 
2020-05-19 5:11:48 PM  

Short Victoria's War: Convince Trump it's pronounced The Lan Say

/why?
//for shiats and giggles
///that's why


Well, it is French ...
 
2020-05-19 5:14:50 PM  
Taking a page from Trump's playbook, the WHO should just announce the changes Trump wants.  They don't have to implement anything, Trump isn't curious enough to follow up.
 
2020-05-19 5:16:40 PM  
It's cool. Some rando on Twitter made up some crap that he's basing his entire policy on.
 
2020-05-19 5:25:41 PM  
The same Lancet that published this:
The COVID-19 pandemic continues to worsen in the USA with 1·3 million cases and an estimated death toll of 80684 as of May 12. States that were initially the hardest hit, such as New York and New Jersey, have decelerated the rate of infections and deaths after the implementation of 2 months of lockdown. However, the emergence of new outbreaks in Minnesota, where the stay-at-home order is set to lift in mid-May, and Iowa, which did not enact any restrictions on movement or commerce, has prompted pointed new questions about the inconsistent and incoherent national response to the COVID-19 crisis.
The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the flagship agency for the nation's public health, has seen its role minimised and become an ineffective and nominal adviser in the response to contain the spread of the virus. The strained relationship between the CDC and the federal government was further laid bare when, according to The Washington Post, Deborah Birx, the head of the US COVID-19 Task Force and a former director of the CDC's Global HIV/AIDS Division, cast doubt on the CDC's COVID-19 mortality and case data by reportedly saying: "There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust". This is an unhelpful statement, but also a shocking indictment of an agency that was once regarded as the gold standard for global disease detection and control. How did an agency that was the first point of contact for many national health authorities facing a public health threat become so ill-prepared to protect the public's health?

In the decades following its founding in 1946, the CDC became a national pillar of public health and globally respected. It trained cadres of applied epidemiologists to be deployed in the USA and abroad. CDC scientists have helped to discover new viruses and develop accurate tests for them. CDC support was instrumental in helping WHO to eradicate smallpox. However, funding to the CDC for a long time has been subject to conservative politics that have increasingly eroded the agency's ability to mount effective, evidence-based public health responses. In the 1980s, the Reagan administration resisted providing the sufficient budget that the CDC needed to fight the HIV/AIDS crisis. The George W Bush administration put restrictions on global and domestic HIV prevention and reproductive health programming.
The Trump administration further chipped away at the CDC's capacity to combat infectious diseases. CDC staff in China were cut back with the last remaining CDC officer recalled home from the China CDC in July, 2019, leaving an intelligence vacuum when COVID-19 began to emerge. In a press conference on Feb 25, Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, warned US citizens to prepare for major disruptions to movement and everyday life. Messonnier subsequently no longer appeared at White House briefings on COVID-19. More recently, the Trump administration has questioned guidelines that the CDC has provided. These actions have undermined the CDC's leadership and its work during the COVID-19 pandemic.
There is no doubt that the CDC has made mistakes, especially on testing in the early stages of the pandemic. The agency was so convinced that it had contained the virus that it retained control of all diagnostic testing for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2, but this was followed by the admission on Feb 12 that the CDC had developed faulty test kits. The USA is still nowhere near able to provide the basic surveillance or laboratory testing infrastructure needed to combat the COVID-19 pandemic.
But punishing the agency by marginalising and hobbling it is not the solution. The Administration is obsessed with magic bullets-vaccines, new medicines, or a hope that the virus will simply disappear. But only a steadfast reliance on basic public health principles, like test, trace, and isolate, will see the emergency brought to an end, and this requires an effective national public health agency. The CDC needs a director who can provide leadership without the threat of being silenced and who has the technical capacity to lead today's complicated effort.
The Trump administration's further erosion of the CDC will harm global cooperation in science and public health, as it is trying to do by defunding WHO. A strong CDC is needed to respond to public health threats, both domestic and international, and to help prevent the next inevitable pandemic. Americans must put a president in the White House come January, 2021, who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics.

/ Medical Journals almost never do this type of thing
 
2020-05-19 5:29:26 PM  
The president has repeatedly railed against the WHO and its director-general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus

Look people, just because there are 26 letters in the alphabet, it doesn't mean that you have to use ALL Of them in a single name. This isn't like that government thing where if you don't use all of this year's budget, you lose the extra money. You can still use the letters even if you don't put them in a name.

On a related note, I set up a user at work who had 23 letters between his first name and last. They weren't all unique, but Jesus, those types of names suck when you are setting up new user accounts. :-)
 
2020-05-19 5:30:11 PM  
Wait, you mean to tell me that Trump isn't honest with his presentation of what he perceives as facts?

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2020-05-19 5:30:44 PM  
What damage can this possibly do?

Well, Trump supporters are already presenting this as fact because TRUMP said it.
 
2020-05-19 5:36:04 PM  

duppy: Oh yeah, the same Lancet that just called out Trump's "incoherent" pandemic response?

L. Ron Tubbard is such a predictably petty little biatch.


Oh what do they know.  Any trailer trash trump supporter would tell you that they know more about doctoring than Lance.  In fact, those know-it-all doctors are siding with the deep state to keep chloroquin and bleach from MAGAt-americans.
 
2020-05-19 5:41:10 PM  

Mrbogey: Is the WHO and Lancet still pretending like there wasn't person to person transmission documented till January.

Some folks can't even conceive of pulling their mouths off of the CCPs cock.

That's why Trump needs to defund the WHO until that brainless Bolshevik running it Hari Karis himself in utter disgrace.


Gosh. I want to believe you and switch sides. This is your opportunity to grow Trump's base instead of watching it continue to shrink as the coronavirus continues:

Can you link me to the WHO articles and Lancet articles from December 2019 that you read to determine that Trump is right to defund the WHO?

This is important. Your side can win if you don't start doing this.
 
2020-05-19 5:45:49 PM  

Unright: Mrbogey: Is the WHO and Lancet still pretending like there wasn't person to person transmission documented till January.

Some folks can't even conceive of pulling their mouths off of the CCPs cock.

That's why Trump needs to defund the WHO until that brainless Bolshevik running it Hari Karis himself in utter disgrace.

Gosh. I want to believe you and switch sides. This is your opportunity to grow Trump's base instead of watching it continue to shrink as the coronavirus continues:

Can you link me to the WHO articles and Lancet articles from December 2019 that you read to determine that Trump is right to defund the WHO?

This is important. Your side can win if you don't start doing this.


Do you deny there was person to person transmission known in December?

The WHO intentionally stuck its head in the ground because the CCP told them to.

That's the point. The WHO subverted science to CCP political interests. Saying "Here Herr, we were lying back then too!" isn't as strong a defense from Lancet as you might think.
 
2020-05-19 5:57:37 PM  

AngryTeacher: Lancet....  The word you are looking for is Lancet.


I'm sorry, but the correct answer is "What is the Lancet." Be sure to phrase your answer in the form of a question.
 
2020-05-19 6:09:43 PM  

Mrbogey: The WHO intentionally stuck its head in the ground because the CCP told them to.


Citation needed. Of course...
 
2020-05-19 6:13:27 PM  

Brandi Morgan: While the US is disengaging and abandoning it's role as a global leader - China is stepping up and filling that role.


And President Trump's constant lies are giving them the openings and excuses to get away from investigations. "This isnt about right or wrong, it is Trump's vendetta against China"
 
2020-05-19 6:23:12 PM  

Mikey1969: Mrbogey: The WHO intentionally stuck its head in the ground because the CCP told them to.

Citation needed. Of course...


Time Magazine
 
2020-05-19 6:24:11 PM  

Magorn: That Trump lies as casually as breathing? Yeah we know that.  But FFS is there NO aide or assistant who has even basic competency and could run a basic fact check on this stuff so the President of the United States isn't caught out in an EASILY provable lie.   Forget Trump, that office represents US as a country and we pay these people six figure salaries.   Don't WE deserve better?


Sadly, no. You 'elected' him. These days, POTUS has about the same global credibility as Xi...
 
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