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2020-05-19 11:50:41 AM  
Welcome to Life. It happens on any schedule but yours.
 
2020-05-19 12:22:42 PM  
My company is still hiring. There are words being thrown around like 'adapting to non traditional workspaces' 'virtual onboarding' 'practicing safe social distancing' and 'telecommuting' and it seems to be working. We just hired in 25 university co-op students for the summer term, like normal.

The C-suite is really patting themselves on the back for this.. I can't blame them, they done good so far. I am just wary of encouraging upper management in any way.
 
2020-05-19 12:26:10 PM  
 
2020-05-19 12:40:42 PM  
Millennials who graduated around 2008:

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2020-05-19 12:44:01 PM  
I just introduced two new hires and two interns yesterday at work.  We need more still.
 
2020-05-19 12:49:16 PM  

American-Irish eyes: I just introduced two new hires and two interns yesterday at work.  We need more still.


Taco Bell has interns?
 
2020-05-19 12:51:16 PM  
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2020-05-19 12:54:40 PM  
Back in the day a friend of mine graduated from one of the Ivy League schools in the middle of a recession and didn't have a job when he graduated. He went back to waiting tables in his home town until he could find something. He was wearing a hat from his alma matter and a couple he was waiting proudly said, "our daughter is going there this fall!". Without thinking he replied, "Oh, I just graduated from there."
 
2020-05-19 12:57:19 PM  

WhiskeySticks: American-Irish eyes: I just introduced two new hires and two interns yesterday at work.  We need more still.

Taco Bell has interns?


Nope, Program Planning and Scheduling.
 
2020-05-19 1:07:43 PM  
My fave part of all the
"we missed out/this is hard on us" yammer yammer.

yeah i'm real sure you'd be all upset and vocal about not getting a graduation or an easy cake walk to a first job placement or whatever else, If the problem was actual fighting in the streets war guns shots all day and night, or seeing bomb clouds rising over the hill, or a mega volcano erupting and darkening the earth, or a meteorite of doom smashing us.

Great SNL skit right there, earth darkened by a massive volcano eruption and people are complain about not getting a fun summer at the beach or how they cant have their nice out door graduation and how sad that is for them as 20%+ of the human population of earth dies off over the next 3 years.
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But instead what we got is a more slow burn less in your face and obvious kind of thing, and so so many of us just do not even get it at all, because it wasn't simpleton obvious immediate hammer to the face enough for us as a world changing crisis event.

Be big and bad and unavoidable, and we'll cope, be subtle and slow and possible to avoid, and we probably go in full face plant on that.
 
2020-05-19 1:23:49 PM  

PvtStash: My fave part of all the
"we missed out/this is hard on us" yammer yammer.

yeah i'm real sure you'd be all upset and vocal about not getting a graduation or an easy cake walk to a first job placement or whatever else, If the problem was actual fighting in the streets war guns shots all day and night, or seeing bomb clouds rising over the hill, or a mega volcano erupting and darkening the earth, or a meteorite of doom smashing us.

Great SNL skit right there, earth darkened by a massive volcano eruption and people are complain about not getting a fun summer at the beach or how they cant have their nice out door graduation and how sad that is for them as 20%+ of the human population of earth dies off over the next 3 years.
.
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But instead what we got is a more slow burn less in your face and obvious kind of thing, and so so many of us just do not even get it at all, because it wasn't simpleton obvious immediate hammer to the face enough for us as a world changing crisis event.

Be big and bad and unavoidable, and we'll cope, be subtle and slow and possible to avoid, and we probably go in full face plant on that.


Wut.
 
2020-05-19 1:24:56 PM  
I graduated from graduate school at the very end of 2008.  I was fortunate enough to land a low-paying job at a friend's company, but finding something better was damn near impossible.

I ended up joining the Army.  I can't really recommend it.  But the pay and benefits were pretty great for the time.
 
2020-05-19 1:28:02 PM  

PvtStash: My fave part of all the
"we missed out/this is hard on us" yammer yammer.

yeah i'm real sure you'd be all upset and vocal about not getting a graduation or an easy cake walk to a first job placement or whatever else, If the problem was actual fighting in the streets war guns shots all day and night, or seeing bomb clouds rising over the hill, or a mega volcano erupting and darkening the earth, or a meteorite of doom smashing us.

Great SNL skit right there, earth darkened by a massive volcano eruption and people are complain about not getting a fun summer at the beach or how they cant have their nice out door graduation and how sad that is for them as 20%+ of the human population of earth dies off over the next 3 years.
.

But instead what we got is a more slow burn less in your face and obvious kind of thing, and so so many of us just do not even get it at all, because it wasn't simpleton obvious immediate hammer to the face enough for us as a world changing crisis event.

Be big and bad and unavoidable, and we'll cope, be subtle and slow and possible to avoid, and we probably go in full face plant on that.



>Class of 2020 graduates into a job market projected to have higher unemployment than the literal Great Depression

>"yammer yammer so what you don't get an easy cake walk, it's only a global pandemic that put 3/4 of the world's population under lockdown, it's not a real problem"
 
2020-05-19 1:47:12 PM  

WhiskeySticks: American-Irish eyes: I just introduced two new hires and two interns yesterday at work.  We need more still.

Taco Bell has interns?


You could say they're the meat of the operation.
 
2020-05-19 3:43:57 PM  
If those other 33 million Americans just finished their schooling, sure. Otherwise the recent graduate has a bit of an harder time getting a job than someone with some experience (assuming the other isn't 50 or over).
 
2020-05-19 3:59:31 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: My company is still hiring. There are words being thrown around like 'adapting to non traditional workspaces' 'virtual onboarding' 'practicing safe social distancing' and 'telecommuting' and it seems to be working. We just hired in 25 university co-op students for the summer term, like normal.

The C-suite is really patting themselves on the back for this.. I can't blame them, they done good so far. I am just wary of encouraging upper management in any way.


That's the real lesson here.

My company has suspended it's internship program and isn't intending to hire anyone for a while. Problem is that we need it. My branch of the company specializes in sci-tech and health care clients so we've been slammed with work. Just about everyone is pulling 60+ hour weeks. We could definitely use some fresh biddies to throw into the grinder. I know I'm exhausted as hell.

We've got a few junior guys right out of college who have been with us for about a year. I only kind of jokingly reminded a senior manager last week that these guys live at home, don't have kids, student loan payments are on pause, and they have really nothing to spend money on. If we ride them too hard they have very little intensive not to just quit on us.
 
2020-05-19 4:30:13 PM  
Well guess they can go work at Amazon and get their hero t shirt.
 
2020-05-19 4:31:41 PM  
I really does suck for these kids, back in 2008 they had to deal with that at a young age and figured that was the worst they would see for a while and then they get a kick in the nuts from 2020.
 
2020-05-19 4:41:00 PM  
When I finished school some 15 years ago I got rejected from a part time job filing paperwork because all my work experience was in construction or retail. The job market has sucked for at least 20 years, best get used to that paper hat.
 
2020-05-19 4:46:51 PM  

DerAppie: If those other 33 million Americans just finished their schooling, sure. Otherwise the recent graduate has a bit of an harder time getting a job than someone with some experience (assuming the other isn't 50 or over).


And, for some professions, your first job can really change your career trajectory, and then tack on student debt, sure it's deferred for now, but it's waiting, and probably growing interest for at least a significant percentage.

Are other people suffering?  Sure.  But that doesn't mean that graduating students aren't also suffering, and perhaps in worse ways than the average college educated individual.
 
2020-05-19 5:07:08 PM  

pkjun: PvtStash: My fave part of all the
"we missed out/this is hard on us" yammer yammer.

yeah i'm real sure you'd be all upset and vocal about not getting a graduation or an easy cake walk to a first job placement or whatever else, If the problem was actual fighting in the streets war guns shots all day and night, or seeing bomb clouds rising over the hill, or a mega volcano erupting and darkening the earth, or a meteorite of doom smashing us.

Great SNL skit right there, earth darkened by a massive volcano eruption and people are complain about not getting a fun summer at the beach or how they cant have their nice out door graduation and how sad that is for them as 20%+ of the human population of earth dies off over the next 3 years.
.

But instead what we got is a more slow burn less in your face and obvious kind of thing, and so so many of us just do not even get it at all, because it wasn't simpleton obvious immediate hammer to the face enough for us as a world changing crisis event.

Be big and bad and unavoidable, and we'll cope, be subtle and slow and possible to avoid, and we probably go in full face plant on that.


>Class of 2020 graduates into a job market projected to have higher unemployment than the literal Great Depression

>"yammer yammer so what you don't get an easy cake walk, it's only a global pandemic that put 3/4 of the world's population under lockdown, it's not a real problem"


Sure, the economy may be more farked than any time in 90 years, but it was worse when I was getting out of school.
 
2020-05-19 5:12:34 PM  
My recently-graduated daughter got a job with a publisher three weeks before they shut-down to work-from-home. She's managed to hang on but really wants to go back to the office (and out of Mom and Dad's house). My youngest daughter was to start a six month co-op on April 1. She just got notified yesterday that she'l start on-boarding on June 1. Better late than never and they both feel lucky.
 
2020-05-19 10:09:03 PM  

pkjun: Millennials who graduated around 2008:

[wompampsupport.azureedge.net image 700x394]


Yup. Graduated '08, I know that feel well.
 
2020-05-19 10:42:02 PM  
I decided to go to grad school in 2007 and wound up flunking out in 2009.  I hate to see how bad kids who were born in the mid 2000's are going to be farked in a few years, because my generation opened up the bottle of lube the early Gen Z kids are finishing up.
 
2020-05-20 12:44:28 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: My company is still hiring. There are words being thrown around like 'adapting to non traditional workspaces' 'virtual onboarding' 'practicing safe social distancing' and 'telecommuting' and it seems to be working. We just hired in 25 university co-op students for the summer term, like normal.

The C-suite is really patting themselves on the back for this.. I can't blame them, they done good so far. I am just wary of encouraging upper management in any way.


"Virtual Onboarding" isn't too tough. We were doing it before I started. I mean, I usually issue a user their new computer, show them our corporate portal where most of their services and apps are, and explain a few thing. Usually...

But more than once I've set up a new user via Zoom or Slack, and the HR part of the onboarding was always via Zoom for anything but corporate.

It's not really that bad. Especially since a chunk of our company are on the software development side, already working with managers and teams that are spread across the globe. Same with our Customer Service and sales teams. Hell, my Onboarding was virtual, too, since our office had not IT guy or HR person when I satrted in January of last year. This flexibility made working from home almost seamless. It didn't hurt that we did a load test a couple of days before the offices closed to make sure the VPN could handle the load. Everyone outside of our India office (different VPN) got online about 7pm and stayed online for like 2 hours, only requirements were getting on the VPN and at least opening the apps we use. Slack and Zoom were humming that night, and we had no issues.

As I've said before, my company is being run better than my country. No layoffs yet. A few people who were horrible at their jobs and had plenty of HR counseling after many run ins with their management were let go, but when your company is bleeding money, you can't really put up with the slackers. We work the events industry, so we're kinda screwed, but the CEO and founder survived both the Dot Com bubble and the 2009 crash without any layoffs and came out stronger in the end.

So yeah, office based industries are definitely able to work from home if needed
Hell, it sounds like they don't even demand that we come back on June 15 when our offices reopen. If someone is still uncomfortable working in an office, it sounds like they can continue to WFH. Except me. Being the IT guy in the office, I'm gonna have to help all of the people who took home equipment get everything set up again, but that's OK...
 
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