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(4Utah.com)   Don't drag a chain behind your vehicle during wildfire season   (abc4.com) divider line
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2020-05-19 10:50:25 AM  
Or ever, really.
 
2020-05-19 3:42:09 PM  
Dragging a chain intefers with speed radar. Easy way to avoid tickets.

/Heard this once
 
2020-05-19 3:51:12 PM  
Even the leather ones are a bad choice.

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2020-05-19 4:53:46 PM  
Someone please explain how they can pinpoint this as the cause.
 
2020-05-19 4:54:25 PM  
What if I want to listen to the wind blow? Watch the sun rise?
 
2020-05-19 4:55:17 PM  

dothemath: Someone please explain how they can pinpoint this as the cause.


Trace the fire to its origin point, then notice chain-dragging marks on the road?

No idea, really, but it was probably something like that.
 
2020-05-19 4:57:58 PM  
Dragging a chain.
Is this from some farkwit who doesn't know how to hook a trailer correctly, or is it a marvelous new way to kill bikers that I'm not aware of?
 
2020-05-19 4:59:34 PM  
Of course you have to drag a chain , did you ever try to push one ..
 
2020-05-19 4:59:49 PM  

Oreminer: Dragging a chain.
Is this from some farkwit who doesn't know how to hook a trailer correctly, or is it a marvelous new way to kill bikers that I'm not aware of?


I'm going to go with A.
There was a fire near me one year where a guy had his trailer wheel bearing overheat, pulled over on the shoulder, burned the forest down.
 
2020-05-19 5:03:24 PM  

Oreminer: Dragging a chain.
Is this from some farkwit who doesn't know how to hook a trailer correctly, or is it a marvelous new way to kill bikers that I'm not aware of?


There's a small chance that it was some farkwit who thought he needed to electrically ground his vehicle for some reason.
 
2020-05-19 5:03:26 PM  

dothemath: Someone please explain how they can pinpoint this as the cause.


at the origin site they observed evidence of five individual fires, consistent with something sparking.
 
2020-05-19 5:03:39 PM  
You must be joking
I think it's smoking
That's a midnight Toqueing
 
2020-05-19 5:05:41 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: What if I want to listen to the wind blow? Watch the sun rise?


Eat purple flowers.
 
2020-05-19 5:07:56 PM  
Good thing it wasn't Jasper TX
 
2020-05-19 5:12:41 PM  
And keep your catalytic converter out of the tall grass
 
2020-05-19 5:16:23 PM  

dothemath: Someone please explain how they can pinpoint this as the cause.


Dragging chains usually start more than one fire.  Typically there are fires all along the path of travel.  The chain will spark, throwing hot metal shards into the receptive fuel bed.  These shards, typically ferrous, are able to be picked up by a magnet at the origin.  Determining origin is relatively easy by analyzing burn patterns and knowing what the weather conditions were for the day.  Add witness statements and you have a solid case.

Origin cause and determination is part of the investigative process on all wildland fires.
 
2020-05-19 5:18:35 PM  
So I'm driving through Stockton CA on the crosstown 4.

I come up on this beautiful 1970 something 4 door monster of a car. You could stand up in this car. It was big.

Anyway, I notice that on the driver's side rear door there was a chain hanging out and it was dragging and bouncing up and hitting the side of this beauty.
So I get up next to it, put down my passenger window and go to tell the driver about the chain.

When I look in there were 4 very serous looking latin young men, completely vato'd out, scarves, prison tats, the works. They were right out of central casting.

I make eye contact with the driver, who honestly seemed surprised that a portly middle aged white guy driving a small Ford hybrid SUV would want to get acquainted with him and his friends.

I yell out "You're dragging a chain on the driver's rear door!"

A good 6-8 ticks of the clock go by where they just seemed to be thinking "what the fark does this a-hole want?"

Then, the driver's face lit up, he looked back and said something to the guy riding behind him. That guy opened his door and pulled in the chain.

They all gave me big smiles and the diver yelled "thanks!"

I yell out "beautiful car man!"

And we both went different directions at the I-5 split.

It was a real feel-good moment.

I don't really have anything to add, but that's never stopped me from posting before.
 
2020-05-19 5:23:48 PM  
Some trucks used to drag a chain, and I remember the sparks. There was a terrible drought around here in the late 80s. Even grass was drier than tinder. Just inside the Franklin County line on I-64 there's a small clump of building near the interstate. A couple of houses and sheds and maybe a barn. Far closer to the highway than I'd like, that's for sure. The day before the drought broke with an epic downpour, lots of those people who lived there were out in the dry grass with blankets slapping at the little pockets of fire that were creeping down the slope from the highway toward their houses.

I wasn't there when the fires ignited but since we were getting passed by trucks with sparking chains, I've always assumed that trucks played a part, I don't suppose I've thought about truck chains in the 35 years or so since then, but you don't see them anymore to remark on.
 
2020-05-19 5:25:38 PM  

Dangerous_sociopath: So I'm driving through Stockton CA on the crosstown 4.

I come up on this beautiful 1970 something 4 door monster of a car. You could stand up in this car. It was big.

Anyway, I notice that on the driver's side rear door there was a chain hanging out and it was dragging and bouncing up and hitting the side of this beauty.
So I get up next to it, put down my passenger window and go to tell the driver about the chain.

When I look in there were 4 very serous looking latin young men, completely vato'd out, scarves, prison tats, the works. They were right out of central casting.

I make eye contact with the driver, who honestly seemed surprised that a portly middle aged white guy driving a small Ford hybrid SUV would want to get acquainted with him and his friends.

I yell out "You're dragging a chain on the driver's rear door!"

A good 6-8 ticks of the clock go by where they just seemed to be thinking "what the fark does this a-hole want?"

Then, the driver's face lit up, he looked back and said something to the guy riding behind him. That guy opened his door and pulled in the chain.

They all gave me big smiles and the diver yelled "thanks!"

I yell out "beautiful car man!"

And we both went different directions at the I-5 split.

It was a real feel-good moment.

I don't really have anything to add, but that's never stopped me from posting before.


It's rather sad that in this day and age people are instantly suspicious of people teying to talk to them...  and surprised when all you are trying to do is help them out.

A few weeks ago I was getting groceries, and the native guy in front of me forget his wallet when he left.  After a quick discussion with the teller, trying to see if it was him who left it, I quickly ran out to the parking lot with it, trying to catch him.  I did, but for a few seconds it looked like he was getting ready to fight because there was no reason he could think of for a fairly large middle aged white guy to come running after him n the middle of a parking lot, yelling at him to hold up.

Then he saw his wallet in my hand...
 
2020-05-19 5:26:44 PM  

bigfire: dothemath: Someone please explain how they can pinpoint this as the cause.

Dragging chains usually start more than one fire.  Typically there are fires all along the path of travel.  The chain will spark, throwing hot metal shards into the receptive fuel bed.  These shards, typically ferrous, are able to be picked up by a magnet at the origin.  Determining origin is relatively easy by analyzing burn patterns and knowing what the weather conditions were for the day.  Add witness statements and you have a solid case.

Origin cause and determination is part of the investigative process on all wildland fires.


Username checks out.

You an arson investigator?
The county sheriffs deputy that taught me to shoot, taught me other things, like that.

Type 3 wildland fire line grunt.  Behold my mccloud.
 
2020-05-19 5:27:42 PM  

mikalmd: Of course you have to drag a chain , did you ever try to push one ..


This sounds like a commercial for Viagra.
 
2020-05-19 5:30:08 PM  

bongon247: bigfire: dothemath: Someone please explain how they can pinpoint this as the cause.

Dragging chains usually start more than one fire.  Typically there are fires all along the path of travel.  The chain will spark, throwing hot metal shards into the receptive fuel bed.  These shards, typically ferrous, are able to be picked up by a magnet at the origin.  Determining origin is relatively easy by analyzing burn patterns and knowing what the weather conditions were for the day.  Add witness statements and you have a solid case.

Origin cause and determination is part of the investigative process on all wildland fires.

Username checks out.

You an arson investigator?
The county sheriffs deputy that taught me to shoot, taught me other things, like that.

Type 3 wildland fire line grunt.  Behold my mccloud.


Type 3?  Not familiar with that qualification.
 
2020-05-19 5:32:04 PM  
It never fails that the media says that every fire is "sparked." But they have expanded it to shootings are "sparked," auto accidents are "sparked," restaurant closings (not "shutterings," for Zeus's sake) are "sparked" and I'm about to complain about it....
 
2020-05-19 5:33:07 PM  

WastrelWay: It never fails that the media says that every fire is "sparked." But they have expanded it to shootings are "sparked," auto accidents are "sparked," restaurant closings (not "shutterings," for Zeus's sake) are "sparked" and I'm about to complain about it....


Easy there, Sparky.
 
2020-05-19 5:38:04 PM  
That's what they called us.  40 men in a row, ten feet apart, all hand tools.  From mattox, shovel, blood hook, pulaski, mccloud(sp?) And axes.

I took the sawyer, and swamper training, I really wanted to run a saw.
 
2020-05-19 5:40:00 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: WastrelWay: It never fails that the media says that every fire is "sparked." But they have expanded it to shootings are "sparked," auto accidents are "sparked," restaurant closings (not "shutterings," for Zeus's sake) are "sparked" and I'm about to complain about it....

Easy there, Sparky.


I see you've sparked a conversation.
 
2020-05-19 5:42:50 PM  

Bennie Crabtree: Danger Avoid Death: WastrelWay: It never fails that the media says that every fire is "sparked." But they have expanded it to shootings are "sparked," auto accidents are "sparked," restaurant closings (not "shutterings," for Zeus's sake) are "sparked" and I'm about to complain about it....

Easy there, Sparky.

I see you've sparked a conversation.


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Or invited a shameless plug.
 
2020-05-19 5:44:31 PM  
Worked the Malibu Canyon fire in 1993 when I was 18 y.o.   We were staged at pepperdine university parking lot.  I've never had a better steak than what the prison crews had made there.
 
2020-05-19 5:48:18 PM  

bongon247: Worked the Malibu Canyon fire in 1993 when I was 18 y.o.   We were staged at pepperdine university parking lot.  I've never had a better steak than what the prison crews had made there.


Pardon me.  It was Topanga canyon.
 
2020-05-19 6:04:44 PM  
At least the sparking lowrider trend has faded a little. I think they used a n attachment with magnesium or something to really make the sparks.

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2020-05-19 6:06:38 PM  

bongon247: bongon247: Worked the Malibu Canyon fire in 1993 when I was 18 y.o.   We were staged at pepperdine university parking lot.  I've never had a better steak than what the prison crews had made there.

Pardon me.  It was Topanga canyon.


Never been there.

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2020-05-19 6:11:06 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: At least the sparking lowrider trend has faded a little. I think they used a n attachment with magnesium or something to really make the sparks.

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That is correct sir.  The magnesium was cool, until it got too hot and burnt down your '64 impala. The gas tank was right there.

We started using almost unrefined iron after that.
 
2020-05-19 6:15:59 PM  
Well obviously the person tied to said chain fell apart. Really this is the fault of the driver not noticing the change in drag, he really should have pulled over and stored the chain in his truck bed when he first noticed no resistance.
 
2020-05-19 6:18:09 PM  

WithinReason: Well obviously the person tied to said chain fell apart. Really this is the fault of the driver not noticing the change in drag, he really should have pulled over and stored the chain in his truck bed when he first noticed no resistance.


That's just not funny.

Farkstick
 
2020-05-19 6:43:54 PM  

WithinReason: Well obviously the person tied to said chain fell apart. Really this is the fault of the driver not noticing the change in drag, he really should have pulled over and stored the chain in his truck bed when he first noticed no resistance.


You are now farkied, as "fark This guy"
 
2020-05-19 7:12:48 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: bongon247: bongon247: Worked the Malibu Canyon fire in 1993 when I was 18 y.o.   We were staged at pepperdine university parking lot.  I've never had a better steak than what the prison crews had made there.

Pardon me.  It was Topanga canyon.

Never been there.

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Nor have I, but I want to go there.

/Come there, whatever
 
2020-05-19 8:49:58 PM  

Dangerous_sociopath: So I'm driving through Stockton CA on the crosstown 4.

I come up on this beautiful 1970 something 4 door monster of a car. You could stand up in this car. It was big.

Anyway, I notice that on the driver's side rear door there was a chain hanging out and it was dragging and bouncing up and hitting the side of this beauty.
So I get up next to it, put down my passenger window and go to tell the driver about the chain.

When I look in there were 4 very serous looking latin young men, completely vato'd out, scarves, prison tats, the works. They were right out of central casting.

I make eye contact with the driver, who honestly seemed surprised that a portly middle aged white guy driving a small Ford hybrid SUV would want to get acquainted with him and his friends.

I yell out "You're dragging a chain on the driver's rear door!"

A good 6-8 ticks of the clock go by where they just seemed to be thinking "what the fark does this a-hole want?"

Then, the driver's face lit up, he looked back and said something to the guy riding behind him. That guy opened his door and pulled in the chain.

They all gave me big smiles and the diver yelled "thanks!"

I yell out "beautiful car man!"

And we both went different directions at the I-5 split.

It was a real feel-good moment.

I don't really have anything to add, but that's never stopped me from posting before.


Had to be a Wallet chain. Which makes that story extra awesome.
 
2020-05-19 11:48:13 PM  
Two summers ago, on Utah Highway 24, the same thing happened. Redneck in beater truck dragging a chain. Wind blew the resulting wildfire right along a key power line, burning miles of it. And cut electricity to an entire county for 72 hours. A tourism county, during a holiday weekend.

Careless idiocy is not a victimless crime
 
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