Skip to content
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(ProPublica)   Finally some good news: A large group of Americans is already immune to coronavirus. Hooray. We have done it, now we can safely re-ope...excuse me, I skipped a word there: they are immune to EVIDENCE on coronavirus. Sorry, my bad   (propublica.org) divider line
    More: Murica, Conspiracy theory, conspiracy theories, way people, Conspiracy Theory Handbook, healthy skepticism, normal people, viral video, best people  
•       •       •

2760 clicks; posted to Main » and Politics » on 19 May 2020 at 8:30 AM (8 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



56 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2020-05-19 3:25:19 AM  
If we conquer this virus, it will not be through science or strategic planning or any kind of intelligent, tactical decision-making, but through blunt brute force.
 
2020-05-19 3:30:50 AM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-05-19 3:49:49 AM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-05-19 4:24:03 AM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-05-19 5:42:35 AM  
Americans will do the right and intelligent thing, as a collective whole, only after they've exhausted every other possibility. It is one of our national traits, and has been for well over a century and a half...
 
2020-05-19 7:13:52 AM  

hubiestubert: Americans will do the right and intelligent thing, as a collective whole, only after they've exhausted every other possibility. It is one of our national traits, and has been for well over a century and a half...


Man. I wish I had your optimism.
 
2020-05-19 7:18:51 AM  
They'll also be the first in line for health care when it hits, and would knock over your grandmother to get the vaccine.

Mark my words, when a treatment becomes available, they'll be biatching about why they didn't get it first.
 
2020-05-19 8:36:39 AM  
Turd Immunity.
 
2020-05-19 8:38:01 AM  
media1.giphy.comView Full Size
 
2020-05-19 8:38:11 AM  

Alphax: [Fark user image 850x755]


"We're no hand hugs, open masks shakes very to the allowed OK OK truth"?
 
2020-05-19 8:39:59 AM  
The rich and the powerful are staying at home and telling the poor to go back to work.  All the proof I ever needed.
 
2020-05-19 8:43:39 AM  
A prevailing opinion making the rounds in my own personal facebook feed at this point:  "Nobody ever seriously thought the coronavirus was a hoax. It was all the media attention that was the hoax. Now let's talk about #Obamagate... "
 
2020-05-19 8:45:55 AM  

Alphax: [Fark user image image 850x850]


Wow, Liz Phair is talking to ME!
 
2020-05-19 8:47:15 AM  
Conspiracies aside, there are people less prone to severe COVID-19. It goes by blood type:

https://www.newsweek.com/blood-type-c​o​ronavirus-covid-19-1492890

It is legit as far as I can tell and there are plenty of legit news sites carrying this info.

After that, males are hit harder. So there you go. A large group of Americans may not be immune to it, but there are large groups with a lot better odds than some.
 
2020-05-19 8:47:31 AM  

Alphax: [Fark user image image 850x755]


I wonder if those sign makers realize they are advocating eugenics.
 
2020-05-19 8:50:48 AM  

outtatowner: Alphax: [Fark user image image 850x755]

I wonder if those sign makers realize they are advocating eugenics.


I'm more disturbed by the shop owner's hugging fetish.
 
2020-05-19 8:53:15 AM  
Some % of the population has cognitive issues. I saw a Facebook argument the other day about masks. The 5% opposed had no reasoning that could be thought of as coherent. One rambles about a police state, the other was "I have the right do to what I want...and it's a ploy..."
 
2020-05-19 8:53:36 AM  

Mrtraveler01: outtatowner: Alphax: [Fark user image image 850x755]

I wonder if those sign makers realize they are advocating eugenics.

I'm more disturbed by the shop owner's hugging fetish.


He's just a Doors fan.

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-05-19 8:54:17 AM  

hubiestubert: Americans will do the right and intelligent thing, as a collective whole, only after they've exhausted every other possibility. It is one of our national traits, and has been for well over a century and a half...


Say goodbye to that - it's gone, dude - like car keys in lava or tears in rain.
 
2020-05-19 8:54:23 AM  

TheDirtyNacho: The 5% opposed had no reasoning that could be thought of as coherent. One rambles about a police state, the other was "I have the right do to what I want...and it's a ploy..."


This was the argument put forth against Occupy Wall Street.
 
2020-05-19 8:56:02 AM  
These people have always been around. It the internet makes them more visible. Back in the mid 00s I had a friend at the local paper whose junior job was dealing with letters to the editor and she knew all the conspiracy theories. Now these folks commiserate on the internet. Facebook is great for finding out who in your social circle is actually a real weirdo.
 
2020-05-19 8:58:07 AM  

Singleballtheory: A prevailing opinion making the rounds in my own personal facebook feed at this point:  "Nobody ever seriously thought the coronavirus was a hoax. It was all the media attention that was the hoax. Now let's talk about #Obamagate... "


I know I've said that on a thread or two around here - the people calling it hoax and hype will pretend they never done so rather than admit to being wrong about it and reflecting that fact.

You learn valuable lessons from being incorrect about things by admitting to being wrong and modifying your behavior or thought.  It's bad enough that these people act like they never held the blatantly incorrect opinion that literally led to people dying.  But I think what is way worse is the people who are supportive of that line of thinking because it is on their "side" politically yet they *know* it is wrong from the start.  You can actually see such here on Fark - there were loads of pre-lockdown/stay-at-home threads and almost all the most prominent right-leaning posters here were strangely absent from from them.
 
d23 [BareFark] [OhFark]
2020-05-19 8:58:42 AM  

hubiestubert: Americans will do the right and intelligent thing, as a collective whole, only after they've exhausted every other possibility. It is one of our national traits, and has been for well over a century and a half...


I don't share this optimism.  I was worried that stupidity would kill the American (rather, US-ian) people and it looks like it might just happen before we exhaust every other possibility.  Especially since one of those other possibilities is to depose a president and a senate who are both too corrupt to do their #1 job of basic protection of the people.
 
2020-05-19 8:58:45 AM  

jso2897: hubiestubert: Americans will do the right and intelligent thing, as a collective whole, only after they've exhausted every other possibility. It is one of our national traits, and has been for well over a century and a half...

Say goodbye to that - it's gone, dude - like car keys in lava or tears in rain.


What kind of lava?

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
d23 [BareFark] [OhFark]
2020-05-19 9:00:05 AM  

TheDirtyNacho: These people have always been around. It the internet makes them more visible. Back in the mid 00s I had a friend at the local paper whose junior job was dealing with letters to the editor and she knew all the conspiracy theories. Now these folks commiserate on the internet. Facebook is great for finding out who in your social circle is actually a real weirdo.


We used to marginalize crackpots and put them in places where we didn't have to give them our time.  The Internet made that impossible.
 
2020-05-19 9:02:04 AM  

TheDirtyNacho: These people have always been around. It the internet makes them more visible. Back in the mid 00s I had a friend at the local paper whose junior job was dealing with letters to the editor and she knew all the conspiracy theories. Now these folks commiserate on the internet. Facebook is great for finding out who in your social circle is actually a real weirdo.


And newspapers had enough sense (and legal incentive) to say "we're not going to print this," while Facebook and other internet publishers have zero legal or financial reason to discourage it.

We don't have more crazy people. . . we have less discretion publicizing the motherfarkers.
 
2020-05-19 9:04:18 AM  

hubiestubert: Americans will do the right and intelligent thing, as a collective whole, only after they've exhausted every other possibility. It is one of our national traits, and has been for well over a century and a half...


lh3.googleusercontent.comView Full Size
 
2020-05-19 9:04:28 AM  
"Focus your efforts on people who can hear evidence and think rationally. "

Which is why I don't waste my breath talking politics to any Trumpers. I've been around a bunch of decades and while political disagreements have always existed, I have never before seen the soul-burning stupid we have today.
 
2020-05-19 9:04:34 AM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-05-19 9:06:22 AM  
Build up that herd immunity with your deaths. I can wait. Thanks! Do it. It's just the flu. There is a cure! Don't trust doctors, they could be Dems. You should have a 'rona party to spread it around and get it over with.
 
2020-05-19 9:07:34 AM  

MythDragon: hubiestubert: Americans will do the right and intelligent thing, as a collective whole, only after they've exhausted every other possibility. It is one of our national traits, and has been for well over a century and a half...

[lh3.googleusercontent.com image 512x354]


Fark handle checks out.
 
2020-05-19 9:08:16 AM  

jso2897: hubiestubert: Americans will do the right and intelligent thing, as a collective whole, only after they've exhausted every other possibility. It is one of our national traits, and has been for well over a century and a half...

Say goodbye to that - it's gone, dude - like car keys in lava or tears in rain.


Or attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
 
2020-05-19 9:13:07 AM  

Singleballtheory: A prevailing opinion making the rounds in my own personal facebook feed at this point:  "Nobody ever seriously thought the coronavirus was a hoax. It was all the media attention that was the hoax. Now let's talk about #Obamagate... "


I have heard people saying this also, and for the life of me, I don't understand.

If you have a virus that is real and extremely deadly, which they admit is true and always knew was true by their own admission, how could media coverage be a hoax? Is the media not supposed to cover it? Are they not supposed to question our leadership on their handling of it? I have questioned a few people when they said the media coverage was the hoax and they all just walked off without giving me an answer
 
2020-05-19 9:14:47 AM  

UberDave: Singleballtheory: A prevailing opinion making the rounds in my own personal facebook feed at this point:  "Nobody ever seriously thought the coronavirus was a hoax. It was all the media attention that was the hoax. Now let's talk about #Obamagate... "

I know I've said that on a thread or two around here - the people calling it hoax and hype will pretend they never done so rather than admit to being wrong about it and reflecting that fact.

You learn valuable lessons from being incorrect about things by admitting to being wrong and modifying your behavior or thought.  It's bad enough that these people act like they never held the blatantly incorrect opinion that literally led to people dying.  But I think what is way worse is the people who are supportive of that line of thinking because it is on their "side" politically yet they *know* it is wrong from the start.  You can actually see such here on Fark - there were loads of pre-lockdown/stay-at-home threads and almost all the most prominent right-leaning posters here were strangely absent from from them.


And even when their Facebook friends post "I went to the group hug rally, and now I got the covid. It's horrible! I feel like I'm gonna die! You don't want this!"
They just shake their heads and say "Well, looks like the liberals got him. He's one of them now. Unfriend." These are the same people who say "Well no one *I* know has it, so it's a hoax"
 
2020-05-19 9:15:30 AM  

UberDave: Singleballtheory: A prevailing opinion making the rounds in my own personal facebook feed at this point:  "Nobody ever seriously thought the coronavirus was a hoax. It was all the media attention that was the hoax. Now let's talk about #Obamagate... "

I know I've said that on a thread or two around here - the people calling it hoax and hype will pretend they never done so rather than admit to being wrong about it and reflecting that fact.

You learn valuable lessons from being incorrect about things by admitting to being wrong and modifying your behavior or thought.  It's bad enough that these people act like they never held the blatantly incorrect opinion that literally led to people dying.  But I think what is way worse is the people who are supportive of that line of thinking because it is on their "side" politically yet they *know* it is wrong from the start.  You can actually see such here on Fark - there were loads of pre-lockdown/stay-at-home threads and almost all the most prominent right-leaning posters here were strangely absent from from them.


I think the silence from the right at the beginning of this is because they didn't get their talking points yet.

For as "independent" as they claim to be, it's funny when you can notice when those talking points get distributed because they all start to say the exact same stuff over and over again.

It's also funny because they are apparently clueless and aimless without someone on the right telling them what to say and how to think.
 
d23 [BareFark] [OhFark]
2020-05-19 9:16:43 AM  

edmo: "Focus your efforts on people who can hear evidence and think rationally. "

Which is why I don't waste my breath talking politics to any Trumpers. I've been around a bunch of decades and while political disagreements have always existed, I have never before seen the soul-burning stupid we have today.


I basically am to the point I just block them from my accounts as irrational people.  What hurts, though, is when otherwise rational people pick up parts of irrational arguments.
 
2020-05-19 9:16:56 AM  

d23: TheDirtyNacho: These people have always been around. It the internet makes them more visible. Back in the mid 00s I had a friend at the local paper whose junior job was dealing with letters to the editor and she knew all the conspiracy theories. Now these folks commiserate on the internet. Facebook is great for finding out who in your social circle is actually a real weirdo.

We used to marginalize crackpots and put them in places where we didn't have to give them our time.  The Internet made that impossible.


Whatever happened to large, human sized nets and men in white coats, anyhow?
 
2020-05-19 9:19:48 AM  

UberDave: Singleballtheory: A prevailing opinion making the rounds in my own personal facebook feed at this point:  "Nobody ever seriously thought the coronavirus was a hoax. It was all the media attention that was the hoax. Now let's talk about #Obamagate... "

I know I've said that on a thread or two around here - the people calling it hoax and hype will pretend they never done so rather than admit to being wrong about it and reflecting that fact.


I only know of one person who did that - some of his FB posts early on were "this is a cold, it's nothing."  He runs for minor local government roles (and sometimes wins) so that comment mysteriously disappeared.

I worked for the guy back at the end of the 90s.  Him being a deceptive little weasel comes as no surprise.

Having said that, a friend's NYC father died from Covid and antibody tests came back for the people who live in the house - his wife, their son, and his wife.  All tested positive.  The wife was really sick in February.  The daughter-in-law was sick in February and March.  The son had zero symptoms.  All tested positive.

I was at a doctor yesterday and he was telling me that they had a shiatload of people presenting Flu symptoms from December onward that tested negative for Flu.

I am convinced that a couple years from now the 20/20 hindsight will show it was here in the US a helluva lot earlier and a helluva lot more widespread than is currently being reported.  The "first case" is listed as late February when it's known tissue samples from a woman who died in Cali on 2/5 tested positive.  That was 3 weeks before the Washing ton State nursing home OMFG incident.
 
d23 [BareFark] [OhFark]
2020-05-19 9:22:55 AM  

ongbok: If you have a virus that is real and extremely deadly, which they admit is true and always knew was true by their own admission, how could media coverage be a hoax? Is the media not supposed to cover it? Are they not supposed to question our leadership on their handling of it? I have questioned a few people when they said the media coverage was the hoax and they all just walked off without giving me an answer


This could be an evolution of a long time Right wing problem.  A lot of people on the Right confuse the presentation of facts with bias.  I was told incessantly when I was growing up that the media had a bias to Left but I never have seen it.  The complaint is really related to presenting facts that show a position from the Right in a bad light. Presenting fact that show a Left wing position in a bad light, of course, is NOT bias according to the same people.

Now presenting facts that are scary, like about COVID or about racism is "stirring the pot" and, somehow, if the media didn't present the facts surrounding the problem, the problem would magically go away.  It's related to the above and it's magically thinking along thrown into the mix of the perpetual victimhood that the Right has adopted.
 
2020-05-19 9:32:00 AM  
We need scientists studying these people.
Because there is something seriously wrong with these people where they are basically subhuman

We need to know, is there some congenital mental deficiency, or is this a condition brought on via brainwashing by church and/or news outlets such as FOX and OANN

Whatever the cause, we need to understand it so we can fight it and hopefully wipe it out
 
2020-05-19 9:35:32 AM  

DarnoKonrad: TheDirtyNacho: These people have always been around. It the internet makes them more visible. Back in the mid 00s I had a friend at the local paper whose junior job was dealing with letters to the editor and she knew all the conspiracy theories. Now these folks commiserate on the internet. Facebook is great for finding out who in your social circle is actually a real weirdo.

And newspapers had enough sense (and legal incentive) to say "we're not going to print this," while Facebook and other internet publishers have zero legal or financial reason to discourage it.

We don't have more crazy people. . . we have less discretion publicizing the motherfarkers.


Yes, and, frankly, the same goes for a lot of self-produced social-media entertainment. It used to be that we had a sort of system to curate all this stuff...
 
2020-05-19 9:41:41 AM  
We've always had fools living among us. Now social media allows them to unite behind a core delusional ideology.

I'm not sure what kind of solution there could be. Maybe if Twitter and Facebook could somehow be made legally liable for the harm they facilitate they could be bothered to police misinformation. As it stands they make a ton of money from user engagement driven by lies and conspiracy, and so will not change until there are severe consequences.
 
2020-05-19 9:43:25 AM  

Mrtraveler01: I think the silence from the right at the beginning of this is because they didn't get their talking points yet.

For as "independent" as they claim to be, it's funny when you can notice when those talking points get distributed because they all start to say the exact same stuff over and over again.

It's also funny because they are apparently clueless and aimless without someone on the right telling them what to say and how to think.


That and liberals act while conservatives react, so conservatives need to wait for liberals to come up with an action plan so they can set themselves up in opposition to it, no matter what it is.  It saves conservatives the embarrassment of the few times they've proposed something first and it turns out to be somewhat sensible so they get liberal support, meaning they're forced to backtrack and oppose their own plan because the approval of liberals has tainted it.
 
2020-05-19 9:43:26 AM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Alphax: [Fark user image image 850x850]

Wow, Liz Phair is talking to ME!


For a gen X, Chicagoan that's the dream.

Also not shocking in general, I kind of remember that her father was faculty at one of the premier med schools in the city.
 
2020-05-19 9:43:45 AM  

edmo: "Focus your efforts on people who can hear evidence and think rationally. "

Which is why I don't waste my breath talking politics to any Trumpers. I've been around a bunch of decades and while political disagreements have always existed, I have never before seen the soul-burning stupid we have today.


Pretty much. I cut large chunks of my extended family out of my life. They're all dead, giant plane crash, very tragic but CNN didn't cover it, no more questions.

I can respect and debate with a conservative. Conservatives offer pragmatism and experience to counterbalance liberal passion and idealism. I can not and will not respect TrumperHumpers. If we can't even agree on the basics of reality, any hope for compromise is gone.

They can piss off and die, both metaphorically and literally.
 
2020-05-19 9:49:40 AM  

40 degree day: We've always had fools living among us. Now social media allows them to unite behind a core delusional ideology.

I'm not sure what kind of solution there could be. Maybe if Twitter and Facebook could somehow be made legally liable for the harm they facilitate they could be bothered to police misinformation. As it stands they make a ton of money from user engagement driven by lies and conspiracy, and so will not change until there are severe consequences.



If a newspaper printed "we need to find Jim and murder him" and he was murdered, they'd be in legal trouble.


If the same statement were printed on a "let's kill Jim Facebook page," CockZucker has ZERO motherfarking liability, and that needs to change.
 
2020-05-19 9:54:45 AM  

Trucker: [Fark user image 750x1010]


Oh, poppytwaddle.  There was a full on movement during WWII against turning off lights in Manhatten as an anti-submarine effort, and a thriving anti-war movement.  We might want to re-scale this whole "greatest generation" thing.  They managed to wreck europe, and we've been uncritically  venerating them for it for 70 years.
 
2020-05-19 9:55:53 AM  

NotThatGuyAgain: UberDave: Singleballtheory: A prevailing opinion making the rounds in my own personal facebook feed at this point:  "Nobody ever seriously thought the coronavirus was a hoax. It was all the media attention that was the hoax. Now let's talk about #Obamagate... "

I know I've said that on a thread or two around here - the people calling it hoax and hype will pretend they never done so rather than admit to being wrong about it and reflecting that fact.

I only know of one person who did that - some of his FB posts early on were "this is a cold, it's nothing."  He runs for minor local government roles (and sometimes wins) so that comment mysteriously disappeared.

I worked for the guy back at the end of the 90s.  Him being a deceptive little weasel comes as no surprise.

Having said that, a friend's NYC father died from Covid and antibody tests came back for the people who live in the house - his wife, their son, and his wife.  All tested positive.  The wife was really sick in February.  The daughter-in-law was sick in February and March.  The son had zero symptoms.  All tested positive.

I was at a doctor yesterday and he was telling me that they had a shiatload of people presenting Flu symptoms from December onward that tested negative for Flu.

I am convinced that a couple years from now the 20/20 hindsight will show it was here in the US a helluva lot earlier and a helluva lot more widespread than is currently being reported.  The "first case" is listed as late February when it's known tissue samples from a woman who died in Cali on 2/5 tested positive.  That was 3 weeks before the Washing ton State nursing home OMFG incident.


The first case of community transmission in the US was january 25th.  I ordered my masks after I read the article.
 
2020-05-19 10:02:28 AM  
One big takeaway: Focus your efforts on people who can hear evidence and think rationally.

So 40% of the country is out. Good to know.
 
2020-05-19 10:04:37 AM  

Mrtraveler01: UberDave: Singleballtheory: A prevailing opinion making the rounds in my own personal facebook feed at this point:  "Nobody ever seriously thought the coronavirus was a hoax. It was all the media attention that was the hoax. Now let's talk about #Obamagate... "

I know I've said that on a thread or two around here - the people calling it hoax and hype will pretend they never done so rather than admit to being wrong about it and reflecting that fact.

You learn valuable lessons from being incorrect about things by admitting to being wrong and modifying your behavior or thought.  It's bad enough that these people act like they never held the blatantly incorrect opinion that literally led to people dying.  But I think what is way worse is the people who are supportive of that line of thinking because it is on their "side" politically yet they *know* it is wrong from the start.  You can actually see such here on Fark - there were loads of pre-lockdown/stay-at-home threads and almost all the most prominent right-leaning posters here were strangely absent from from them.

I think the silence from the right at the beginning of this is because they didn't get their talking points yet.

For as "independent" as they claim to be, it's funny when you can notice when those talking points get distributed because they all start to say the exact same stuff over and over again.

It's also funny because they are apparently clueless and aimless without someone on the right telling them what to say and how to think.


CSB: The chief right-winger here at work, who claimed to be "independent" and is now Libertarian, was doing that arrogant shaking-head-in-disbelief thing every time someone would bring up C19 back in January and February.  When the stay-at-home orders were announced, he was yelling and cussing, loudly (upon being told), about how no one can "tell him what do do" and so on.  Soon after we go on WFH.  That only lasted two weeks because our owners can't stand to not have someone "under" them at all times even though our jobs are easily done at home with 100% productivity (programming).  When we come partially back into the office (half-on, half-off days), he's wearing a bandanna mask and getting in screaming matches with the VP about how dangerous it is that we are back in the office. Two weeks later, we're back to full on days and he's not wearing a mask and literally making jokes about people who are, "I'm not into that mask thing....", "Heh, heh!  Are you scared?"

It's like you can watch Fox News or read any random right-wing forum to know what he is gong to do.  Yet, he legitimately believes he is the most intelligent person in the office.  He had a mild-ish heart attack last year and smokes like a chimney and is near retirement age.  He's been on spontaneous vacation for two days now - It would not surprise me at all if he came down with this shiat and instead of letting us all know, is going to stay at home and try to weather it.  More likely, he is hunkering down using personal leave hoping this shiat will pass but this being Texas, I would count on it.  The only thing he has going for him is that he is such an insufferable, insecure and arrogant person that no one wants to hang around him for long.
 
Displayed 50 of 56 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking





On Twitter




In Other Media
  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.