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2020-05-19 9:41:40 AM  
A totally not bought and sold FCC could bring Sinclair to its knees, since there's lots of TV station licenses to go after, unlike Fox News.

But that requires an FCC not run by a frelling Idjit.
 
2020-05-19 9:43:46 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Have y'all every taken a look at how nations that treat suspected Covid-19 patients with HCQ at the first sign of illness?  That have CFR's between 0.03% and 2%.

America's CFR was yesterday was 24%.


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2020-05-19 9:45:54 AM  
Hydroxychloroquine actually doesn't have any dangerous side effects, or if it does they're exceedingly rare.

Am I really the only one who took the time to actually look up all this stuff when this drug popped up on the radar in regards to coronavirus? It's a drug that has been around for a long time and has been given to millions of people and it is widely regarded as safe with minor side effects like nausea or a rash. It's used for malaria, lupus and arthritis among other things. It is not some crazy drug with crazy side effects that is going to kill you.

There are also data showing it can be effective as long as it is administered early on. Like all antivirals, it works best early on when the virus is still replicating because it stops the virus from replicating. Once the virus has replicated enough then what really starts to do the damage is your own immune system and again hydroxychloroquine might have some beneficial effect here, but the data we have suggest it doesn't have a large effect when given late, if any. It is important to take it early before people become very ill which supports the use as a prophylactic like India is doing with their healthcare workers. There are also data suggesting it works in combination with azithromycin as long as it is administered early on. There are also data showing that zinc is an important co-factor that significantly increased the likelihood of being discharged, and significantly decreased the likelihood of needing to be admitted to the ICU, needing invasive ventilation, or being admitted to hospice/dying.

All of the studies that have shown HCQ didn't work or even *gasp* increased death tell us literally nothing because they were all retrospective studies that didn't control for the timing of the dose as it related to the disease progression and all of them noted that the HCQ group was more sick than the control group. More sick patients were more likely to receive the drug so they had worse outcomes. This tells you nothing. When you control for the time the dose is given, every time it comes back that HCQ works only in the group that took the drug early before the disease got bad. It's not a miracle cure and we still need a randomized double blinded study which controls for both time the drug is administered and zinc as factors to confirm the treatment works, but it does seem to have some beneficial effect if you take it early enough based on current evidence, especially in combination with zinc and possibly azithromycin as well.
 
2020-05-19 9:47:44 AM  

Ashelth: duppy: Hope they get sued into the stone age for wrongful death.

And everyone just ignores most of fark was backing the use of the drug.


What Fark were you reading? I remember most of us mocking Trump mercilessly for his MD from Trump University.
 
2020-05-19 9:50:50 AM  

Aquapope: How did he come up with hydoxychloroquine, a malaria drug?  I mean, he could have picked an athlete's foot drug or an acne drug, or even more appropriately, a respiratory drug.  So how did he decide on this particular ineffective drug when there are millions of ineffective drugs to choose from?


Rumor is that Larry Ellison recommended it to him. And then once he mentioned it, its efficacy become gospel on the Wing Nut Right.
 
2020-05-19 9:53:52 AM  

thurstonxhowell: backhand.slap.of.reason: Have y'all every taken a look at how nations that treat suspected Covid-19 patients with HCQ at the first sign of illness?  That have CFR's between 0.03% and 2%.

America's CFR was yesterday was 24%.

Why did you made your stupid lie so specific and out there?


CFR is a consideration of resolved cases only.  At this moment, we have 90,885 deaths and 290,172 recoveries ergo CFR = (90,885/(90,885 + 290,172)) = 26%.  An astounding 1,161,749 infections remain unresolved in the United States.

Bahrain, a nation that uses early hydroxychloroquine as front line defense has had 12 deaths and 2958 recoveries.  Their current CFR is 0.4%.

Austrailia, which also uses early chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, has a CFR of 1.5%.

Senegal, which treats every coronavirus patient with hydroxychloroqine, has a CFR of 2.4%.

Singapore, which treats cases caught early with hydroxychloroquine, has a CFR of 0.2%

And so on.  But please, tell me how much better these nations with abysmal fatality rates like France, the United States, and Great Britain are at treating Covid-19 because they don't use snake oil cures like early hydroxychloroquine.  By the way, for those of you that are dense, early in this context means pre-exposure, post-eposure, or shortly after becoming symptomatic.  Early treatment is something we can't even accomplish in the United States because you can't even get a test in cases where exposure is community acquired during the window in which HCQ or CQ are likely to be most effective.

I know y'all are stupid.  Those of you that are going to respond to this post are undoubtedly feverishly scrambling towards 'studies' where patients that have been sick for two or three weeks were given hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine to no effect.  Literally no one of merit advocates that it be used in patients with advanced illness.  It's theraputic window stretches from pre-exposure to a day or two after becoming symptomatic.  As at least single molecule of chloroquine or HCQ is needed per spike protein to completely neutralize a virus, entry inhibitors quickly lose their utility as viral load increases exponentially.

The definition of 'early' can be found here, in case you're dumb.
 
2020-05-19 10:07:58 AM  
Sorry guys.  I've been on hold for over an hour now. 
Gotta pass the time some kind of way... 

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2020-05-19 10:09:03 AM  
Only those blessed by hydroxychloroquine shall be admitted into Heaven.
Book of Trump chapter 9 verse 11.
 
2020-05-19 10:09:19 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: early in this context means pre-exposure, post-eposure


So "early" means "any time".  Is there a moment that isn't either pre or post exposure?
 
2020-05-19 10:13:15 AM  

Ashelth: duppy: Hope they get sued into the stone age for wrongful death.

And everyone just ignores most of fark was backing the use of the drug.


I'd like a citation on that claim, please.
 
2020-05-19 10:13:46 AM  

zeroman987: Ah, Sinclair.  The reason I am a former Cubs fan.

Won't support Sinclair, and I won't support the Cubs if they are doing business with them.


If it makes you feel any better, it looks like their foray into the regional sports network industry is on track to be a financial disaster for them.
 
2020-05-19 10:16:47 AM  

eiger: Oh, and why is this happening?

Right-wing media has been built on pushing "miracle cures" that the "elites" and "experts" don't want you to know about for decades. In the past, this was part of the scam; it was how this media made money, and it was all part of a "complex" for bullshiatting conservatives and creating more dupes.

Maybe it still is (somebody with money invested may be pushing this behind the scenes). But, increasingly, there is evidence that those running the right aren't the con artists but rather the marks. For decades, those in charge KNEW it was a scam. Now a lot of them don't seem to.

Basically, Frankstein monster has escaped from its master's control.

See: https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the​-long-con and https://splinternews.com/the-long-​lucrative-right-wing-grift-is-blowing-​up-in-t-1793944216


Great article

Thanks!
 
2020-05-19 10:20:52 AM  

wooden_badger: A totally not bought and sold FCC could bring Sinclair to its knees, since there's lots of TV station licenses to go after, unlike Fox News.

But that requires an FCC not run by a frelling Idjit.


I hate to defend the douche with the oversized Reese's mug but he did help put the brakes on a merger that would have grown Sinclair tremendously and would have sank its fangs into respectable stations like WGN, WPIX and KTLA.

But luckily Sinclair was so greedy and stupid in trying to get the merger passed by "selling" stations to family members and friends of the CEO of Sinclair to try to do a runaround laws that regulate how many stations one company can own that the FCC couldn't ignore it.
 
2020-05-19 10:23:58 AM  

Ashelth: And everyone just ignores most of fark was backing the use of the drug.


You must be thinking of another site. This site was pretty universal in mocking President Tide Pod.
 
2020-05-19 10:32:10 AM  

Grungehamster: KarmicDisaster: Mark my words, Trumpublicans will eventually force people to take this drug to prove their loyalty to Trump. Trump is willing to kill people rather than admit that he was ever wrong.

We are already at the "anyone who would dare wear a mask and/or won't take hydroxychloroquine daily is too weak to be worthy of respect" phase of this.

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Kurt Schlischter = Julius Schleicher
 
2020-05-19 10:35:06 AM  
The fact that a drug has been successfully prescribed in the past for some very serious disease like lupus or malaria does NOT mean that it is "safe".
It only means that it is safer than the symptoms of the diseases it cures or suppresses, in the dose it is used for that purpose.
Doesn't mean it is safe to treat something else, in some other dosage, that it may or may not even help.
 
2020-05-19 10:35:51 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: backhand.slap.of.reason: Have y'all every taken a look at how nations that treat suspected Covid-19 patients with HCQ at the first sign of illness?  That have CFR's between 0.03% and 2%.

America's CFR was yesterday was 24%.

Council of Foreign Relations?


Code of Federal Regulations.
 
2020-05-19 10:53:46 AM  

Grungehamster: It is especially strange swerve when you consider that we were all-in for the vaccine this weekend with Azar talking about how they are going to cut every corner to ensure there are 300 million doses available by January and Trump hired someone from the company touting early success in trials to be his new vaccine czar.

The most coherent explanation I have heard is that he was hearing from Rudy and Laura Ingraham that the drug has proven to be 100% effective despite what those "doctors" claim and decided that he abandoned it too early.


The GOP members during the testimony of Dr.Bright were harping on about it too.  A bunch of "my constituents are telling me it's working", and "didn't you support its use? Why did you turn against it? Was it because the President supported it?", And of course "we won't know for years whether it worked well or not, but if there's a chance,then shouldn't we give doctors that tool to help save lives?, It has a long safety track record!"

They got their talking points out.

Dr. Bright just kept repeating that there was initial promise to support its use in a randomized double-blind clinical trial, but then the white house pushed to make it available,evenueven without medical supervision. Dr Bright and group pushed back, and got medical supervision added as a requirement; the white house then sent word around that those requirements were to be ignored. Hence his issue with it.

You'd think he was.speaking Greek.
 
2020-05-19 11:07:44 AM  
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2020-05-19 11:18:25 AM  

Aquapope: How did he come up with hydoxychloroquine, a malaria drug?  I mean, he could have picked an athlete's foot drug or an acne drug, or even more appropriately, a respiratory drug.  So how did he decide on this particular ineffective drug when there are millions of ineffective drugs to choose from?


If I were a betting man, someone on fox and friends mentioned it.
 
2020-05-19 11:22:45 AM  
It will be fun after a new FCC is in place watching Sinclair trying to re-license its 190 stations after trying to kill its viewers.
 
2020-05-19 11:37:15 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Unlike flouting social distancing rules, taking this drug is a thing that Trumpistas can do to show their loyalty without hurting innocent people. So I guess I'm for it.


I hear great things about a cocktail of turpentine, warfarin, bleach, and ammonia.  I hope Trump starts touting its efficacy to his supplicants supporters.

/the lame stream media won't let you know!  Health professionals won't tell you this one easy trick!
 
2020-05-19 11:47:04 AM  

Felgraf: Hey folks, as a warning,

backhand.slap.of.reason

has made prevoius wild claims, such as
https://www.fark.com/comments/10694289​/125337524#c125337524
"Photos and anecdotal evidence indicate that Wuhan is under a thick cloud of crematory smoke.  Funerary processing infrastructure is running 24/7."

and

https://www.fark.com/comments/10705246​/125515838#c125515838
"Of the hundreds of thousands of viruses that have been identified and sequenced, this is the only one that targets the ACE2 receptor.  The behavior is otherwise unobserved in nature.

It must have been a very exotic and rare wild animal indeed."

(Note: Sars-COV2 is not, in fact, the only virus to have ever targeted the ACE2 receptor. In fact, the original SARS virus did).


And when called out on it, often went with defenses along the lines of 'Well I'm just spreading what I saw on twitter, it's not my fault if the info's bad'.


One should take any of their medical claims with INCREDIBLE grains of salt.


Never fully trust someone who actually uses y'all in conversation on the internet. For one reason or another they are trying too hard to be presented as a "good ol' boy".
 
2020-05-19 12:16:26 PM  

Turgid Goulash: Aquapope: How did he come up with hydoxychloroquine, a malaria drug?  I mean, he could have picked an athlete's foot drug or an acne drug, or even more appropriately, a respiratory drug.  So how did he decide on this particular ineffective drug when there are millions of ineffective drugs to choose from?

If I were a betting man, someone on fox and friends mentioned it.


TabA SlotB explained it pretty well here.  It's obvious that Trump was/is looking for any quick fix at all, anything that might make this nightmare on his economy go away.  So he seized on the first thing he could find that showed any promise at all.  And now he says he's taking it regularly, which means his idiots will be buying that fishtank cleaner kool-aid.  Because we didn't have enough dead people.
 
2020-05-19 12:25:15 PM  
Can the sinclair family be all executed after this and all their empire destroyed for good?

Also all the news editors get their legs broken?
 
2020-05-19 12:42:30 PM  

rummonkey: Never fully trust someone who actually uses y'all in conversation on the internet. For one reason or another they are trying too hard to be presented as a "good ol' boy".


I mean.

I use y'all because it's a handy, gender-neutral word (and I did grow up in NC).

But fair point.
 
2020-05-19 12:42:41 PM  

Stud Gerbil: Sadly, his followers fully know that he is lying about taking it.   They know he is lying about all sorts of things and recklessly endangering the public just to make money.

They just don't care.


Which is why Siclair, etc, keeping talking about it - they know its bulls*** but they don't want Trump to sound like the bulls***ter that he is.
 
2020-05-19 12:48:06 PM  

Nonpo: Hydroxychloroquine actually doesn't have any dangerous side effects, or if it does they're exceedingly rare.

Am I really the only one who took the time to actually look up all this stuff when this drug popped up on the radar in regards to coronavirus? It's a drug that has been around for a long time and has been given to millions of people and it is widely regarded as safe with minor side effects like nausea or a rash. It's used for malaria, lupus and arthritis among other things. It is not some crazy drug with crazy side effects that is going to kill you.

There are also data showing it can be effective as long as it is administered early on. Like all antivirals, it works best early on when the virus is still replicating because it stops the virus from replicating. Once the virus has replicated enough then what really starts to do the damage is your own immune system and again hydroxychloroquine might have some beneficial effect here, but the data we have suggest it doesn't have a large effect when given late, if any. It is important to take it early before people become very ill which supports the use as a prophylactic like India is doing with their healthcare workers. There are also data suggesting it works in combination with azithromycin as long as it is administered early on. There are also data showing that zinc is an important co-factor that significantly increased the likelihood of being discharged, and significantly decreased the likelihood of needing to be admitted to the ICU, needing invasive ventilation, or being admitted to hospice/dying.

All of the studies that have shown HCQ didn't work or even *gasp* increased death tell us literally nothing because they were all retrospective studies that didn't control for the timing of the dose as it related to the disease progression and all of them noted that the HCQ group was more sick than the control group. More sick patients were more likely to receive the drug so they had worse outcomes. This tells you nothing. When you control for the time the dose is given, every time it comes back that HCQ works only in the group that took the drug early before the disease got bad. It's not a miracle cure and we still need a randomized double blinded study which controls for both time the drug is administered and zinc as factors to confirm the treatment works, but it does seem to have some beneficial effect if you take it early enough based on current evidence, especially in combination with zinc and possibly azithromycin as well.


So why aren't the medical experts at the CDC or Fauci pushing hdq as hard as you and Trump are? Isn't that a pretty big, red flag that it's going nowhere?

Why would you continue acting as if its viable, still?
 
2020-05-19 1:13:45 PM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: thurstonxhowell: backhand.slap.of.reason: Have y'all every taken a look at how nations that treat suspected Covid-19 patients with HCQ at the first sign of illness?  That have CFR's between 0.03% and 2%.

America's CFR was yesterday was 24%.

Why did you made your stupid lie so specific and out there?

CFR is a consideration of resolved cases only.  At this moment, we have 90,885 deaths and 290,172 recoveries ergo CFR = (90,885/(90,885 + 290,172)) = 26%.  An astounding 1,161,749 infections remain unresolved in the United States.

Bahrain, a nation that uses early hydroxychloroquine as front line defense has had 12 deaths and 2958 recoveries.  Their current CFR is 0.4%.

Austrailia, which also uses early chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, has a CFR of 1.5%.

Senegal, which treats every coronavirus patient with hydroxychloroqine, has a CFR of 2.4%.

Singapore, which treats cases caught early with hydroxychloroquine, has a CFR of 0.2%

And so on.  But please, tell me how much better these nations with abysmal fatality rates like France, the United States, and Great Britain are at treating Covid-19 because they don't use snake oil cures like early hydroxychloroquine.  By the way, for those of you that are dense, early in this context means pre-exposure, post-eposure, or shortly after becoming symptomatic.  Early treatment is something we can't even accomplish in the United States because you can't even get a test in cases where exposure is community acquired during the window in which HCQ or CQ are likely to be most effective.

I know y'all are stupid.  Those of you that are going to respond to this post are undoubtedly feverishly scrambling towards 'studies' where patients that have been sick for two or three weeks were given hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine to no effect.  Literally no one of merit advocates that it be used in patients with advanced illness.  It's theraputic window stretches from pre-exposure to a day or two after becoming symptomatic.  As at least single molecule of chloroquine or HCQ is needed per spike protein to completely neutralize a virus, entry inhibitors quickly lose their utility as viral load increases exponentially.

The definition of 'early' can be found here, in case you're dumb.


Then why aren't the world's leading experts pushing it forward? Why did they reject it? And given that, why are you still promoting its efficacy when they are not? Do you seriously think you know better than them? And if you don't, why are you telling Fark? Its like you think no one here hasn't also read plenty about hdq - and realized that the potential side effects are, by themselves, enough to rule it out.
 
2020-05-19 1:25:12 PM  

RasIanI: backhand.slap.of.reason: thurstonxhowell: backhand.slap.of.reason: Have y'all every taken a look at how nations that treat suspected Covid-19 patients with HCQ at the first sign of illness?  That have CFR's between 0.03% and 2%.

America's CFR was yesterday was 24%.

Why did you made your stupid lie so specific and out there?

CFR is a consideration of resolved cases only.  At this moment, we have 90,885 deaths and 290,172 recoveries ergo CFR = (90,885/(90,885 + 290,172)) = 26%.  An astounding 1,161,749 infections remain unresolved in the United States.

Bahrain, a nation that uses early hydroxychloroquine as front line defense has had 12 deaths and 2958 recoveries.  Their current CFR is 0.4%.

Austrailia, which also uses early chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, has a CFR of 1.5%.

Senegal, which treats every coronavirus patient with hydroxychloroqine, has a CFR of 2.4%.

Singapore, which treats cases caught early with hydroxychloroquine, has a CFR of 0.2%

And so on.  But please, tell me how much better these nations with abysmal fatality rates like France, the United States, and Great Britain are at treating Covid-19 because they don't use snake oil cures like early hydroxychloroquine.  By the way, for those of you that are dense, early in this context means pre-exposure, post-eposure, or shortly after becoming symptomatic.  Early treatment is something we can't even accomplish in the United States because you can't even get a test in cases where exposure is community acquired during the window in which HCQ or CQ are likely to be most effective.

I know y'all are stupid.  Those of you that are going to respond to this post are undoubtedly feverishly scrambling towards 'studies' where patients that have been sick for two or three weeks were given hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine to no effect.  Literally no one of merit advocates that it be used in patients with advanced illness.  It's theraputic window stretches from pre-exposure to a day or two after becoming sy ...


He gets spanked daily, yet he comes back for more, daily.  Nobody can explain it, it just happens.
 
2020-05-19 3:08:16 PM  

Wyalt Derp: 100% of patients who took this treatment recovered, except for the ones that died.


And also that one patient who utterly ceased to exist.

FTFA:
But she never explained any of the problems with the French study by Raoult; according to a New York Times Magazine profile of the "contrarian" doctor, his study originally had 26 patients on hydroxychloroquine but finished with only 20. Of the six patients who did not complete the study, one stopped taking the medication due to nausea, three patients were transferred to intensive care, and one patient died.


6 patients did not complete the study: 1 stopped taking it, 3 went to the ICU, 1 died: 1 + 3 + 1 = 5.

I rest my case.
 
2020-05-19 3:26:17 PM  

Steampunk Gallagher: Wyalt Derp: 100% of patients who took this treatment recovered, except for the ones that died.

And also that one patient who utterly ceased to exist.

FTFA:
But she never explained any of the problems with the French study by Raoult; according to a New York Times Magazine profile of the "contrarian" doctor, his study originally had 26 patients on hydroxychloroquine but finished with only 20. Of the six patients who did not complete the study, one stopped taking the medication due to nausea, three patients were transferred to intensive care, and one patient died.


6 patients did not complete the study: 1 stopped taking it, 3 went to the ICU, 1 died: 1 + 3 + 1 = 5.

I rest my case.


The sixth patient probably was removed for another reason, probably due to some aberration in their paperwork, perhaps if you checked the paper the article is citing, it'd be listed there.
 
2020-05-19 3:29:45 PM  
Every pandemic and epidemic has a "miracle cure".  Timing your investment in it juuuuuust right can make you enough money to hide from the lynch mobs that form when it is inevitably found to be snake oil or sugar water.  In the meantime, every bit of media evidence that it might help is literally money in someone's pocket.

Giant media conglomerates are owned by shell companies that are allowed to have investment portfolios, too, you know.
 
2020-05-19 3:43:45 PM  

wood0366: Steampunk Gallagher: Wyalt Derp: 100% of patients who took this treatment recovered, except for the ones that died.

And also that one patient who utterly ceased to exist.

FTFA:
But she never explained any of the problems with the French study by Raoult; according to a New York Times Magazine profile of the "contrarian" doctor, his study originally had 26 patients on hydroxychloroquine but finished with only 20. Of the six patients who did not complete the study, one stopped taking the medication due to nausea, three patients were transferred to intensive care, and one patient died.


6 patients did not complete the study: 1 stopped taking it, 3 went to the ICU, 1 died: 1 + 3 + 1 = 5.

I rest my case.

The sixth patient probably was removed for another reason, probably due to some aberration in their paperwork, perhaps if you checked the paper the article is citing, it'd be listed there.


Thanks for the serious reply to a humorous post.
 
2020-05-19 4:08:52 PM  

Steampunk Gallagher: wood0366: Steampunk Gallagher: Wyalt Derp: 100% of patients who took this treatment recovered, except for the ones that died.

And also that one patient who utterly ceased to exist.

FTFA:
But she never explained any of the problems with the French study by Raoult; according to a New York Times Magazine profile of the "contrarian" doctor, his study originally had 26 patients on hydroxychloroquine but finished with only 20. Of the six patients who did not complete the study, one stopped taking the medication due to nausea, three patients were transferred to intensive care, and one patient died.


6 patients did not complete the study: 1 stopped taking it, 3 went to the ICU, 1 died: 1 + 3 + 1 = 5.

I rest my case.

The sixth patient probably was removed for another reason, probably due to some aberration in their paperwork, perhaps if you checked the paper the article is citing, it'd be listed there.

Thanks for the serious reply to a humorous post.


My insurance won't allow me to have a sarcasm or goofymeter anymore since it blew a hole in my wall.
 
2020-05-19 4:49:13 PM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Unlike flouting social distancing rules, taking this drug is a thing that Trumpistas can do to show their loyalty without hurting innocent people. So I guess I'm for it.


NO. Every product made by human beings has a finite supply. We saw that with the recent toilet paper shortage.

So every Trumpanzee who takes Hydroxychloroquine in the mistaken belief that it will protect them against COVID-19 when they don't actually need to take it is actively preventing that dose from being prescribed to a person who needs that drug for genuine medical reasons.

People aren't just going to suffer due to coronavirus- they will also suffer because Trump led panic buying of a drug which treats people's autoimmune diseases to the point where many in enormous pain from various kinds of arthritis cannot do anything to alleviate their pain.

If anyone wishes for the Trumpanzees to use this drug, they are also wishing that those who really need it cannot get it.
 
2020-05-19 5:23:15 PM  

wood0366: Steampunk Gallagher: wood0366: Steampunk Gallagher: Wyalt Derp: 100% of patients who took this treatment recovered, except for the ones that died.

And also that one patient who utterly ceased to exist.

FTFA:
But she never explained any of the problems with the French study by Raoult; according to a New York Times Magazine profile of the "contrarian" doctor, his study originally had 26 patients on hydroxychloroquine but finished with only 20. Of the six patients who did not complete the study, one stopped taking the medication due to nausea, three patients were transferred to intensive care, and one patient died.


6 patients did not complete the study: 1 stopped taking it, 3 went to the ICU, 1 died: 1 + 3 + 1 = 5.

I rest my case.

The sixth patient probably was removed for another reason, probably due to some aberration in their paperwork, perhaps if you checked the paper the article is citing, it'd be listed there.

Thanks for the serious reply to a humorous post.

My insurance won't allow me to have a sarcasm or goofymeter anymore since it blew a hole in my wall.


As a 2nd generation internet troll, I have a pre-existing condition that makes me uninsurable.
 
2020-05-19 7:04:35 PM  

Felgraf: Hey folks, as a warning,

backhand.slap.of.reason

has made prevoius wild claims, such as
https://www.fark.com/comments/10694289​/125337524#c125337524
"Photos and anecdotal evidence indicate that Wuhan is under a thick cloud of crematory smoke.  Funerary processing infrastructure is running 24/7."

and

https://www.fark.com/comments/10705246​/125515838#c125515838
"Of the hundreds of thousands of viruses that have been identified and sequenced, this is the only one that targets the ACE2 receptor.  The behavior is otherwise unobserved in nature.

It must have been a very exotic and rare wild animal indeed."

(Note: Sars-COV2 is not, in fact, the only virus to have ever targeted the ACE2 receptor. In fact, the original SARS virus did).


And when called out on it, often went with defenses along the lines of 'Well I'm just spreading what I saw on twitter, it's not my fault if the info's bad'.


One should take any of their medical claims with INCREDIBLE grains of salt.


I don't take anything that account says seriously, even when I happen to agree with it.
 
2020-05-19 10:47:41 PM  

Do you know the way to Mordor: Garza and the Supermutants: Unlike flouting social distancing rules, taking this drug is a thing that Trumpistas can do to show their loyalty without hurting innocent people. So I guess I'm for it.

NO. Every product made by human beings has a finite supply. We saw that with the recent toilet paper shortage.

So every Trumpanzee who takes Hydroxychloroquine in the mistaken belief that it will protect them against COVID-19 when they don't actually need to take it is actively preventing that dose from being prescribed to a person who needs that drug for genuine medical reasons.

People aren't just going to suffer due to coronavirus- they will also suffer because Trump led panic buying of a drug which treats people's autoimmune diseases to the point where many in enormous pain from various kinds of arthritis cannot do anything to alleviate their pain.

If anyone wishes for the Trumpanzees to use this drug, they are also wishing that those who really need it cannot get it.


You are correct and I apologize for making an inconsiderate joke.
 
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