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2020-05-19 8:33:52 AM  
One pill makes hands smaller
One pill makes you crawl
And the pills that Donny gives you
Don't do anything at all

Remember
What the pundit said
Count your dead
Count your dead
 
2020-05-19 8:35:43 AM  
I'm really glad I refused to talk to them about possible employment. I just couldn't bring myself to a place where I would be able to look myself i the mirror for doing anything that would aid or promote fascism.
 
2020-05-19 8:36:49 AM  
Subby, you misspelled "because of" as "despite"
 
2020-05-19 8:43:21 AM  
Go ahead and kill yourselves bleachnick hydroxymorons.
 
2020-05-19 8:43:34 AM  
Of only there were laws or regulations designed to keep companies from owning so many stations...
 
2020-05-19 8:44:16 AM  

Hassan Ben Sobr: One pill makes hands smaller
One pill makes you crawl
And the pills that Donny gives you
Don't do anything at all

Remember
What the pundit said
Count your dead
Count your dead


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2020-05-19 8:44:20 AM  

Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: What is the hype with this? Is it just pure money?  WTF

"Mr. Trump first expressed interest in hydroxychloroquine a few weeks ago, telling associates that Mr. [Larry] Ellison, a billionaire and a founder of Oracle, had discussed it with him. At the time, Dr. Mehmet Oz, the host of television's "The Doctor Oz Show," was in touch with Mr. Trump's advisers about expediting approval to use the drug for the coronavirus.

Mr. [Rudolph] Giuliani has urged Mr. Trump to embrace the drug, based in part on the advice of Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, a self-described simple country doctor who has become a hit on conservative media after administering a cocktail of hydroxychloroquine, the antibiotic azithromycin and zinc sulfate."

Yeah, that's not cultish at all.

This is how empires end.


America died a while ago, it's just that its corpse is still walking around for a bit.
 
2020-05-19 8:45:26 AM  
Hey folks, as a warning,

backhand.slap.of.reason

has made prevoius wild claims, such as
https://www.fark.com/comments/1069428​9​/125337524#c125337524
"Photos and anecdotal evidence indicate that Wuhan is under a thick cloud of crematory smoke.  Funerary processing infrastructure is running 24/7."

and

https://www.fark.com/comments/1070524​6​/125515838#c125515838
"Of the hundreds of thousands of viruses that have been identified and sequenced, this is the only one that targets the ACE2 receptor.  The behavior is otherwise unobserved in nature.

It must have been a very exotic and rare wild animal indeed."

(Note: Sars-COV2 is not, in fact, the only virus to have ever targeted the ACE2 receptor. In fact, the original SARS virus did).


And when called out on it, often went with defenses along the lines of 'Well I'm just spreading what I saw on twitter, it's not my fault if the info's bad'.


One should take any of their medical claims with INCREDIBLE grains of salt.
 
2020-05-19 8:45:52 AM  
How did he come up with hydoxychloroquine, a malaria drug?  I mean, he could have picked an athlete's foot drug or an acne drug, or even more appropriately, a respiratory drug.  So how did he decide on this particular ineffective drug when there are millions of ineffective drugs to choose from?
 
2020-05-19 8:47:02 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Unlike flouting social distancing rules, taking this drug is a thing that Trumpistas can do to show their loyalty without hurting innocent people. So I guess I'm for it.


If it doesn't work they could still be hurting the people around them. This thing is not being promoted because it works, but because certain people are making a profit off it.
 
2020-05-19 8:47:36 AM  

Aquapope: How did he come up with hydoxychloroquine, a malaria drug?  I mean, he could have picked an athlete's foot drug or an acne drug, or even more appropriately, a respiratory drug.  So how did he decide on this particular ineffective drug when there are millions of ineffective drugs to choose from?


It was being used before he latched onto the idea. I was reading about it late in February.
 
2020-05-19 8:50:22 AM  

Grungehamster: It is especially strange swerve when you consider that we were all-in for the vaccine this weekend with Azar talking about how they are going to cut every corner to ensure there are 300 million doses available by January and Trump hired someone from the company touting early success in trials to be his new vaccine czar.

The most coherent explanation I have heard is that he was hearing from Rudy and Laura Ingraham that the drug has proven to be 100% effective despite what those "doctors" claim and decided that he abandoned it too early.


This needs to be reminded anytime there's talk of Ingraham being a medical expert.
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2020-05-19 8:51:08 AM  

Garza and the Supermutants: Unlike flouting social distancing rules, taking this drug is a thing that Trumpistas can do to show their loyalty without hurting innocent people. So I guess I'm for it.


No, because shortages are hurting people who take it for autoimmune issues like Lupus.
 
2020-05-19 8:51:20 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: Have y'all every taken a look at how nations that treat suspected Covid-19 patients with HCQ at the first sign of illness?  That have CFR's between 0.03% and 2%.

America's CFR was yesterday was 24%.


Council of Foreign Relations?
 
2020-05-19 8:51:30 AM  

KarmicDisaster: Mark my words, Trumpublicans will eventually force people to take this drug to prove their loyalty to Trump. Trump is willing to kill people rather than admit that he was ever wrong.


We are already at the "anyone who would dare wear a mask and/or won't take hydroxychloroquine daily is too weak to be worthy of respect" phase of this.

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2020-05-19 8:51:42 AM  

Felgraf: Hey folks, as a warning,

backhand.slap.of.reason

has made prevoius wild claims, such as
https://www.fark.com/comments/10694289​/125337524#c125337524
"Photos and anecdotal evidence indicate that Wuhan is under a thick cloud of crematory smoke.  Funerary processing infrastructure is running 24/7."

and

https://www.fark.com/comments/10705246​/125515838#c125515838
"Of the hundreds of thousands of viruses that have been identified and sequenced, this is the only one that targets the ACE2 receptor.  The behavior is otherwise unobserved in nature.

It must have been a very exotic and rare wild animal indeed."

(Note: Sars-COV2 is not, in fact, the only virus to have ever targeted the ACE2 receptor. In fact, the original SARS virus did).


And when called out on it, often went with defenses along the lines of 'Well I'm just spreading what I saw on twitter, it's not my fault if the info's bad'.


One should take any of their medical claims with INCREDIBLE grains of salt.


Not to mention vaccine concern trolling and JAQing off...
 
2020-05-19 8:52:12 AM  

Harry Wagstaff: Aquapope: How did he come up with hydoxychloroquine, a malaria drug?  I mean, he could have picked an athlete's foot drug or an acne drug, or even more appropriately, a respiratory drug.  So how did he decide on this particular ineffective drug when there are millions of ineffective drugs to choose from?

It was being used before he latched onto the idea. I was reading about it late in February.


OK.  So in late February, why was a malaria drug being used to fight a respiratory virus?  Why not a pregnancy drug or a cancer drug?  How did somebody think "Hey, let's try this drug that has nothing to do with this disease, maybe that will work."
 
2020-05-19 8:55:03 AM  

Latinwolf: Grungehamster: It is especially strange swerve when you consider that we were all-in for the vaccine this weekend with Azar talking about how they are going to cut every corner to ensure there are 300 million doses available by January and Trump hired someone from the company touting early success in trials to be his new vaccine czar.

The most coherent explanation I have heard is that he was hearing from Rudy and Laura Ingraham that the drug has proven to be 100% effective despite what those "doctors" claim and decided that he abandoned it too early.

This needs to be reminded anytime there's talk of Ingraham being a medical expert.
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Laura "Zyklon Biatch" Ingraham,
 
2020-05-19 8:55:05 AM  

Ashelth: duppy: Hope they get sued into the stone age for wrongful death.

And everyone just ignores most of fark was backing the use of the drug.


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2020-05-19 8:55:51 AM  

Harry Wagstaff: Of only there were laws or regulations designed to keep companies from owning so many stations...


All bow down before the altar of capitalism!
 
2020-05-19 8:56:58 AM  

Aquapope: Harry Wagstaff: Aquapope: How did he come up with hydoxychloroquine, a malaria drug?  I mean, he could have picked an athlete's foot drug or an acne drug, or even more appropriately, a respiratory drug.  So how did he decide on this particular ineffective drug when there are millions of ineffective drugs to choose from?

It was being used before he latched onto the idea. I was reading about it late in February.

OK.  So in late February, why was a malaria drug being used to fight a respiratory virus?  Why not a pregnancy drug or a cancer drug?  How did somebody think "Hey, let's try this drug that has nothing to do with this disease, maybe that will work."


I'm not sure. I just know it had been used in Australia and China.
 
2020-05-19 8:57:08 AM  

Felgraf: Hey folks, as a warning,

backhand.slap.of.reason

has made prevoius wild claims, such as
https://www.fark.com/comments/10694289​/125337524#c125337524
"Photos and anecdotal evidence indicate that Wuhan is under a thick cloud of crematory smoke.  Funerary processing infrastructure is running 24/7."

and

https://www.fark.com/comments/10705246​/125515838#c125515838
"Of the hundreds of thousands of viruses that have been identified and sequenced, this is the only one that targets the ACE2 receptor.  The behavior is otherwise unobserved in nature.

It must have been a very exotic and rare wild animal indeed."

(Note: Sars-COV2 is not, in fact, the only virus to have ever targeted the ACE2 receptor. In fact, the original SARS virus did).


And when called out on it, often went with defenses along the lines of 'Well I'm just spreading what I saw on twitter, it's not my fault if the info's bad'.


One should take any of their medical claims with INCREDIBLE grains of salt.


That's a lot of words to say "he's a farking liar".
 
2020-05-19 8:58:17 AM  
Good.
 
2020-05-19 9:00:03 AM  
I encourage everyone who believes in and trust President Trump to continue to do so and to take HCQ to prevent COVID-19.

\ You farking idiots deserve to die if you're taking medical advice from a pathological kumquat.
 
2020-05-19 9:00:57 AM  

Ashelth: duppy: Hope they get sued into the stone age for wrongful death.

And everyone just ignores most of fark was backing the use of the drug.


"Most of Fark" who what now?
 
2020-05-19 9:00:58 AM  
Sadly, his followers fully know that he is lying about taking it.   They know he is lying about all sorts of things and recklessly endangering the public just to make money.

They just don't care.
 
2020-05-19 9:02:59 AM  
Any medical claim from a random clown on Fark, but especially from some twit whom I have tagged as "antivax idiot," must be taken with a couple of sacks of salt.

The antivax idiot in question knows who s/he/it is.
 
2020-05-19 9:04:49 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Felgraf: Hey folks, as a warning,

backhand.slap.of.reason

has made prevoius wild claims, such as
https://www.fark.com/comments/10694289​/125337524#c125337524
"Photos and anecdotal evidence indicate that Wuhan is under a thick cloud of crematory smoke.  Funerary processing infrastructure is running 24/7."

and

https://www.fark.com/comments/10705246​/125515838#c125515838
"Of the hundreds of thousands of viruses that have been identified and sequenced, this is the only one that targets the ACE2 receptor.  The behavior is otherwise unobserved in nature.

It must have been a very exotic and rare wild animal indeed."

(Note: Sars-COV2 is not, in fact, the only virus to have ever targeted the ACE2 receptor. In fact, the original SARS virus did).


And when called out on it, often went with defenses along the lines of 'Well I'm just spreading what I saw on twitter, it's not my fault if the info's bad'.


One should take any of their medical claims with INCREDIBLE grains of salt.

That's a lot of words to say "he's a farking liar".


Oh, it is, but he doesn't tend to abandon threads until someone points out how utterly wrong he's been in the past.

... Plus it's fun.
 
2020-05-19 9:07:12 AM  
What an interesting 3 months for hydroxychlorine.  A decades old drug nobody talked about except maybe in the 3rd world, but still quietly taken daily by thousands of Americans.

Suddenly it became simultaneously a cure for a worldwide pandemic and one of the most dangerous prescribed substances on the planet.

And now it'll fade back into obscurity.  A footnote in the ongoing hissyfit/misinformation campaign between Trump and the media.
 
2020-05-19 9:10:28 AM  
Ah, Sinclair.  The reason I am a former Cubs fan.

Won't support Sinclair, and I won't support the Cubs if they are doing business with them.
 
2020-05-19 9:13:52 AM  

Ashelth: duppy: Hope they get sued into the stone age for wrongful death.

And everyone just ignores most of fark was backing the use of the drug.


Speak roughly to your little boy, and beat him when he sneezes.
 
2020-05-19 9:14:24 AM  
I actively encourage all Trumpsters to take Trump's medical advice.  After all:

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2020-05-19 9:15:06 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: What an interesting 3 months for hydroxychlorine.  A decades old drug nobody talked about except maybe in the 3rd world, but still quietly taken daily by thousands of Americans.

Suddenly it became simultaneously a cure for a worldwide pandemic and one of the most dangerous prescribed substances on the planet.

And now it'll fade back into obscurity.  A footnote in the ongoing hissyfit/misinformation campaign between Trump and the media.


It's also that they want you to mix it with other drugs to make their "cure".

Almost like mixing medications can be dangerous, and shouldn't be done without proper testing and research....
 
2020-05-19 9:15:19 AM  
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2020-05-19 9:17:26 AM  
I'm thinking this is a real time experiment that science will never have another opportunity to replicate - at least not ethically.
A whole segment of the population have volunteered to place themselves at various risks purely out of their idiot ideology.
So, I guess we get to see if social Darwinism actually works - if the mortality numbers are significant enough to actually reshape society to some observable degree.
This is the same as refusing to respect social distancing, or wear masks. We get to see an experiment we could never ethically perform without these "lifestyle volunteers".
 
2020-05-19 9:19:29 AM  
I smell law suits.

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2020-05-19 9:20:45 AM  
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2020-05-19 9:25:20 AM  

zeroman987: Ah, Sinclair.  The reason I am a former Cubs fan.

Won't support Sinclair, and I won't support the Cubs if they are doing business with them.



Yeah, it's why I stopped going to Ring of Honor Wrestling shows.
 
2020-05-19 9:25:47 AM  
I have a theory that trump is only alive because of amphetamines, cocaine, McDonalds, and barely-fettered rage. I guess I'll be adding hydroxychloroquine to my theory.
 
2020-05-19 9:26:12 AM  

Aquapope: Harry Wagstaff: Aquapope: How did he come up with hydoxychloroquine, a malaria drug?  I mean, he could have picked an athlete's foot drug or an acne drug, or even more appropriately, a respiratory drug.  So how did he decide on this particular ineffective drug when there are millions of ineffective drugs to choose from?

It was being used before he latched onto the idea. I was reading about it late in February.

OK.  So in late February, why was a malaria drug being used to fight a respiratory virus?  Why not a pregnancy drug or a cancer drug?  How did somebody think "Hey, let's try this drug that has nothing to do with this disease, maybe that will work."


Hyroxychloroquine (HCQ) had a few things going for it that made it pop out:
1. Presently an approved drug, with decades of use and safety data, so you can effectively dive straight into Phase III clinical trials. It also already had a supply chain for rapid manufacturing & distribution. It's low-hanging fruit.
2. In December & January, every lab that could do in vitro screens to to find potential SARS-CoV-2 inhibitors started with already approved drugs for the obvious reason: anything you can get to patients right away is desperately needed. Early reports indicated that HCQ could inhibit in vitro viral replication of SARS-CoV-2.
3. HCQ has been reported (since early 2000s) to have antiviral activity against several viruses, including HIV, influenza A, zika, and notably the 1st SARS virus. These studies were largely in vitro (some animal) and not testes in humans.
4. Due to 1-3, HCQ was seized upon by some physicians and researchers who, in efforts to get new clinical treatments vetted fast (and possibly not always with the purest motivations), ran small, short, poorly controlled, underpowered clinical trials using HCQ. Those early trials got relatively uncritical fast-track peer review (and many remain unreviewed preprints), and the media turned its firehose of nuance-free, panic-stricken credulity on full blast.

Trump's particular perseveration is probably most parsimoniously explained by the fact that he's an uncritical thinker that believes the last person he talked to about anything. If Larry Oracle and Rudy 9/11 say it's the bee's knees, have they ever steered him wrong? I think it's less likely that Trump has some financial stake in HCQ marketing and more likely that he's a germaphobe simultaneously getting Dunning-Kruger'd by sycophants and played by people who have a large stash of Sanofi SA stock...
 
2020-05-19 9:27:46 AM  
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2020-05-19 9:29:03 AM  

TabASlotB: testes


that's a fun typo...
 
2020-05-19 9:29:47 AM  
I don't want to dive into trying to figure this out, but how has Fox News handled Trump just blurting out that he's taking this shiat?

I checked a few minutes of Laura, She-Wolf of Fox News' show, because she's been the most aggressive pusher of hydroxychloroquine on that network, and she was deep into the "Obamagate" bullshiat, trying to make routine law enforcement activity derived from foreign intelligence sound like a deep, dark conspiracy.
 
2020-05-19 9:30:51 AM  
When the sale of snake oil is prohibited, Trump will start selling snakes for his disciples to oil themselves.
 
2020-05-19 9:31:16 AM  
And now you know why KOMO has lost all credibility. Sinclair Broadcasting destroyed it.
 
2020-05-19 9:32:23 AM  

Aquapope: How did he come up with hydoxychloroquine, a malaria drug?  I mean, he could have picked an athlete's foot drug or an acne drug, or even more appropriately, a respiratory drug.  So how did he decide on this particular ineffective drug when there are millions of ineffective drugs to choose from?


Crazy French Doctor with medical ethics issues published a paper on it. Using hey I gave these people the drug and they got better as proof.
 
2020-05-19 9:37:30 AM  

TabASlotB: Aquapope: Harry Wagstaff: Aquapope: How did he come up with hydoxychloroquine, a malaria drug?  I mean, he could have picked an athlete's foot drug or an acne drug, or even more appropriately, a respiratory drug.  So how did he decide on this particular ineffective drug when there are millions of ineffective drugs to choose from?

It was being used before he latched onto the idea. I was reading about it late in February.

OK.  So in late February, why was a malaria drug being used to fight a respiratory virus?  Why not a pregnancy drug or a cancer drug?  How did somebody think "Hey, let's try this drug that has nothing to do with this disease, maybe that will work."

Hyroxychloroquine (HCQ) had a few things going for it that made it pop out:
1. Presently an approved drug, with decades of use and safety data, so you can effectively dive straight into Phase III clinical trials. It also already had a supply chain for rapid manufacturing & distribution. It's low-hanging fruit.
2. In December & January, every lab that could do in vitro screens to to find potential SARS-CoV-2 inhibitors started with already approved drugs for the obvious reason: anything you can get to patients right away is desperately needed. Early reports indicated that HCQ could inhibit in vitro viral replication of SARS-CoV-2.
3. HCQ has been reported (since early 2000s) to have antiviral activity against several viruses, including HIV, influenza A, zika, and notably the 1st SARS virus. These studies were largely in vitro (some animal) and not testes in humans.
4. Due to 1-3, HCQ was seized upon by some physicians and researchers who, in efforts to get new clinical treatments vetted fast (and possibly not always with the purest motivations), ran small, short, poorly controlled, underpowered clinical trials using HCQ. Those early trials got relatively uncritical fast-track peer review (and many remain unreviewed preprints), and the media turned its firehose of nuance-free, panic-stricken credulity on ...


Thank you.  That's exactly what I wanted to know.
 
2020-05-19 9:38:08 AM  
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2020-05-19 9:39:09 AM  

Felgraf: Hey folks, as a warning,

backhand.slap.of.reason

has made prevoius wild claims, such as
https://www.fark.com/comments/10694289​/125337524#c125337524
"Photos and anecdotal evidence indicate that Wuhan is under a thick cloud of crematory smoke.  Funerary processing infrastructure is running 24/7."

and

https://www.fark.com/comments/10705246​/125515838#c125515838
"Of the hundreds of thousands of viruses that have been identified and sequenced, this is the only one that targets the ACE2 receptor.  The behavior is otherwise unobserved in nature.

It must have been a very exotic and rare wild animal indeed."

(Note: Sars-COV2 is not, in fact, the only virus to have ever targeted the ACE2 receptor. In fact, the original SARS virus did).


And when called out on it, often went with defenses along the lines of 'Well I'm just spreading what I saw on twitter, it's not my fault if the info's bad'.


One should take any of their medical claims with INCREDIBLE grains of salt.


That user has been on ignore for quite some time already
 
2020-05-19 9:40:54 AM  

funmonger: Ashelth: duppy: Hope they get sued into the stone age for wrongful death.

And everyone just ignores most of fark was backing the use of the drug.

"Most of Fark" who what now?


We're on a site where you see Conservatives crying about this place being an echo chamber because people aren't buying into their bullshait and this  dumbass is implying that most of Fark is buying into their bullshait.
 
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